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2013-03-10 01:59 6005395 Anonymous IS2 GREATEST TANK OF WWII (IS-2_Cubinka_1.jpg 2592x1944 347kB)
IS 2 is the best tank of WW2 it has much better and thicker armor than the panther in reality unlike in ro where their armor is about the same. IS 2 can penetrate panthers frontal hull armor plate from 1200 meters virtualy every time while the panther may penetrate the IS 2 frontal armor plate from only 600-700 meters thats huge tactical advantage for IS 2. An IS 2 may be able to penetrate a tiger 1 frontal armor plate from 1500+ meters and its slightly worse optics whould not make much differnce at all espesialy for skilled gunner. IS optics allow for engagemant of targets up to 3000 yards plus effectively.while the tigers prospects are very poor and unlikely at that range versus IS 2. IS 2 armor is much better tha tiger 1 which has 100mm max front hull and turret armor thickness at 0degress slope while IS 2 is 132 mm sloped frontal hull and well sloped 162 mm turret front. IS 2 versus Tiger 2 are about equal at all ranges except IS 2 can get turret on target much quicker giving CQB atvantage and tiger 2 is extremely ineficicient to produce 1 tiger 2 for 5 IS 2 thats just plain stupid and mere 400+ were built and tiger 2 cant go 400 yards without breaking down or getting stuck in mud hehe. IS 2 is clear winner!!! IF you dont belive check out site The Russian Battlefield.ru heavy tanks section

5 min later 6005455 Anonymous
IS-2 during WW2 had a fatal flaw where it needed to lower its gun to the ground during a reload. Read up on how Otto Carius and an other tank commander in regular Tigers took out an other company of IS-2s, mostly due to being able to exploit this flaw

7 min later 6005483 Anonymous
>>6005455 armor of tiger might be better welded but hardness and effectiveness of soviet armor is virtually 97 percent as strong nickel welding makes aditional quailty virtually irelevant especially against 122m d 25t gun, extra quality only gives equvalent to 5mm max aditional armor, even if more tiger 2 were produced they combat record versus IS 2 in same nubers resulted in 1:1 kill ratio, armor of tiger 2 being about the same and jagpanther is at a disadvantage because it had thiner armor and couldnt angle armor in a fight at 1 or 11 oclock cause it had no turret. What Germans whould theoretically invent dosnt count cuz IS 3 even more powerfull tank far superior to Tiger 2 could have entered war by late 44 if not for suspension problems!

9 min later 6005508 Anonymous
>>6005455 actauly wrong, they ambushed a company of empty IS-2s being refuled, there crew where else where

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