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2016-10-05 02:42 7013052 Anonymous (muslima-school.jpg 1280x2952 271kB)
Why don't muslims believe in equality for all and living together in harmony? How can we convince them that their holy book and their god and their prophet was wrong?

13 min later 7013089 Anonymous
>>7013052 muslims just haven't evolved far enough, their religion is in adolescence just as christianity was during the middle ages the only way they will ever acquire the morals of the modern world is by entering it /pol/ comes here all the time to yell about how faggots and trannies are working against their best interests by accepting muslim presence in first world countries, but muslims will never accept faggots and trannies if they can hide out in mud hut shitholes where it's socially acceptable to stone them to death, only if they leave the echo chamber

19 min later 7013110 Anonymous
>>7013052 Islam is not inherently violent or a promotion of inequality. However, the majority of muslims live in poor nations with little economic or social equality where education is poor. Islam can coexist with the Western way of life, but only through the proper integration and education of poor muslim immigrants. Creating ghettos and muslim "communities" only widens the divide between our populations and allows the muslim youth to be brainwashed by the sexist, racist, homophobic elder generation. It's a difficult problem to solve and I don't think we will any time soon, but that doesn't mean that the West would shut its doors to Islam or treat muslims like second class citizens.

22 min later 7013122 Anonymous
>>7013052 what has Islam got to do with /lgbt/? I think you know where to go

23 min later 7013127 Anonymous
>>7013089 >muslims just haven't evolved far enough, their religion is in adolescence I see what you mean, however isn't islam predicated on the perfection of their book and their god, and their example of a perfect muslim mohammed? How do you ask them to admit that their religion's persecution of the gay is not not perfect even though their perfect example mohammed calls for it? Wouldn't admitting that something in their holy book is not perfect tantamount to unraveling the entire religion. It might be funny to you, however even the smallest criticism of islam is met with slaughter. Ask Charlie.

28 min later 7013145 Anonymous
>>7013110 >slam is not inherently violent or a promotion of inequality. Koran 3:110: “Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had Faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have Faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.” Koran 98:6 "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures." >tldr moslems best of mankind, unbeliever worst of creatures e.g. not even human beings

30 min later 7013151 Anonymous (gays-vs-islam.jpg 960x960 118kB)
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31 min later 7013159 Anonymous
>>7013151 That didn't really answer my question.

33 min later 7013169 Anonymous
>>7013110 >Islam can coexist with the Western way of life, but only through the proper integration and education of poor muslim immigrants Their doctorine tells them that it is perfect and that the moslem is the best of mankind and unbelievers are not even human (worst of creatures). How then could a "worst of creatures" have an opinion of any value to "the best of mankind"?

39 min later 7013196 Anonymous
>>7013127 >Wouldn't admitting that something in their holy book is not perfect tantamount to unraveling the entire religion? didn't end christianity

41 min later 7013199 Anonymous
>>7013159 Oh it does, but here is the scripture: Allah's Messenger said; (Whoever is found doing the act of the people of Lut, then kill them; the doer and the one it is done to.) >people of Lut = gays

45 min later 7013211 Anonymous
>>7013199 The initial post was asking why don't muslims believe in equality for all that has not relation to /lgbt/ that isn't marginal

45 min later 7013212 Anonymous (behead-those-who-insult-islam.jpg 339x230 25kB)
>>7013196 >didn't end christianity The Qur'an: Qur'an (6:93) - "Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah?" If the death penalty is prescribed for lesser crime, then it stands to reason that it should be imposed for the most "wicked".

47 min later 7013223 Anonymous
We can't. They're a lost cause. Time to crusade.

48 min later 7013231 Anonymous
>>7013223 >crusades >succeeded better against fellow christians and some random pagans lmao

50 min later 7013241 Anonymous
>>7013231 This time we have drones, we will retake the holy land.

51 min later 7013244 Anonymous
>>7013212 do you really think christians in the middle ages were any better than muslims today, or that they followed the worst parts of scripture any less literally? and christians in the middle ages weren't exactly begging to come to us and live amongst our 21st century secularized society! we should all be jumping for joy that the muslims want to come here -- leaving their containment boards is the only way they'll ever stop being worthless fundamentalist shitheads and join the rest of us in the modern world and yeah, i've seen the results of radical islam, and i agree with you it isn't pretty. i've seen lives destroyed. you really think leaving them in their third world homelands where they can circlejerk about stoning unbelievers is the SOLUTION to that? take them here where they'll be schooled out of it. it is the only option with any chance of islam deradicalizing.

55 min later 7013266 Anonymous
>>7013231 actually the crusades successfully repelled the moslems. >for example Spain speaks Spanish not arabic.

57 min later 7013278 Anonymous
>>7013244 >do you really think christians in the middle ages were any better than muslims today They did. Jesus considered gay a sin which could be forgivin and not like mohammed, a crime to be punished. Also there is no tale of Jesus raining stones down upon a city of gays to kill them for being teh gay. Because Jesus did not slaughter gays.

57 min later 7013279 Anonymous
>>7013266 Debatable whether the reconquesta is a crusade

59 min later 7013289 Anonymous
Source of OP pic btw Can't find much information on it, any further context for the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Y UysixVd0

59 min later 7013292 Anonymous
>>7013279 They just wanted to Make Spain Great Again before it was cool. Too bad they're doing nothing atm

1 hours later 7013300 Anonymous
>>7013292 >They just wanted to Make Spain Great Again before it was cool. They were simply fighting an adversary. The concept of unifing Hispania into a Christian kingdom came later.

1 hours later 7013303 Anonymous
>>7013278 >actually thinks christians in the middle ages did not loathe and slaughter gay people i know (((pol))) is trying to reach out to us but is this the best you can do

1 hours later 7013305 Anonymous
>>7013244 >take them here where they'll be schooled out of it. it is the only option with any chance of islam deradicalizing. I see. So your solution is for the worst of creatures - the unbeliever - to splain to a moslem - the best of mankind - that their perfect religion, from their perfect god, revealed to the perfect example of a moslem Mohammed (who slaughters teh gay) that they have it wrong. >mfw they listen to you over their god and messenger Or maybe you feel that it's okay for them to hate gays and persecute them here in the hopes that in a few generations they will be diluted in their hatred by osmosis. So how may gays should be persecuted until the moslem comes around?

1 hours later 7013317 Anonymous
>>7013303 >actually thinks that christians a thousand years ago is equivalent to moslems today

1 hours later 7013320 Anonymous
>>7013145 Is that really so different from Christianity etc? Everyone damns their nonbelievers to hell. It's just that Muslims are trying to expedite the process, while most other religions seem to have learned to cut that shit out.

1 hours later 7013336 Anonymous
>>7013320 >Is that really so different from Christianity the Quran specifically says its the final religion, that all other religions that came before (Christianity, Judaism) are false misinterpretations and that Mohammed is the prophet of all prophets. No other religion states this literally. Other religions can be interpreted as militant, Islam is the opposite. You have to work to interpret it as peaceful. And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Said Allah does not love those who reject Islam. (Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38) Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) "Let not compassion move you from carrying out God's law..." (Qur'an 24:2) "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." (Qur'an 2:216) "Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them..." (Qur'an 9:73) "O you who believe! do not take My enemy and your enemy for friends: Would you offer them love while they deny what has come to you of the truth? (Qur'an 60:1) "Love your enemies..." (Luke 6:27)

5 hours later 7014404 Anonymous
>>7013145 The bible is just as strict, spiteful, and bitter. As is the Torah. Stupid christians are just as horrible as stupid muslims, but luckily there are less stupid christians as they're more generally found in developed countries (try being gay in christian Russia.) Stop generalising. How is sticking your head in the sand helping to solve the underlying problem?

5 hours later 7014411 Anonymous (1430307261281.jpg 498x750 98kB)
>>7013336 >all this cherry picking

6 hours later 7014726 Anonymous
gas the (((kikes))) race war now

7 hours later 7014785 Anonymous
>>7013052 >How can we convince them that their holy book and their god and their prophet was wrong? Napalm

7 hours later 7014791 Anonymous
>>7014411 >not bothering to read the Quran nigga open it up to any page and it'll have some shit written about how infidels are impure

7 hours later 7014800 Anonymous
>>7013303 Have you ever read about Venice in the Middle Ages?

7 hours later 7014815 Anonymous
>>7013278 >Also there is no tale of Jesus raining stones down upon a city of gays to kill them for being teh gay. Because Jesus did not slaughter gays. No his dad did.

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