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2014-07-19 07:49 3017898 Anonymous (tumblr_n8s84eLANQ1qjy4kmo1_500.jpg 500x655 277kB)
Why are feminists the AIDS that are killing LGBT communities?

15 min later 3017964 Anonymous
They're not. People are just scared of them because they are continually getting more trans-exclusionary.

18 min later 3017974 Anonymous
>>3017898 because of TERFs and feminist tendency to hijack issues that don't concern them instead of staying in their ally position

25 min later 3018012 Anonymous (1392412267904.png 696x1321 744kB)
>>3017898 Because women want to own things that don't belong to them. They are pissed off if they can't go to leather bar even if they have absolutely nothing to do in it. They want to put their problems on gay men too whinning about "GAY MEN AND PATRIARCHY" and forgetting that pretty damn lots of gay men are actually like men and partiarchy. >>3017964 >They're not. yes they are >People are just scared no we just annoyed as hell. But honestly thought...sites like Tumblr or some activists/webcomic artists work really hard to make feminists look dumb and not taken seriously. Even if they think of doing opposite. So it's like a little annoying sister of LGBT. She is very loud but hardly can do anything due to being not as professional as she thinks.

30 min later 3018039 Anonymous (1400710654505.jpg 658x639 67kB)
>>3017898 >no bdsm >NO BDSM Haha no. fuck you Feminism. Do they actually want to stop BDSM? Where i can read about that? They will be eaten alive if start screaming about that a little more loud. >women have not so many sexual fantasies as men >they want to stop everybody enjoying different kinds of sex and be as limited as them

47 min later 3018120 Anonymous
I've never really met feminists like this. Most feminists are pro-porn, pro-prostitution, and pro-BSDM. I know not ALL feminists are trans-friendly, but this just seems like /pol/-bait to harp on that obscure minority all the time.

49 min later 3018134 Anonymous
Feminism ignores that men have natural testosterone boost and will never be adapted to leading or having natural muscular strength.

52 min later 3018145 Anonymous
>>3018120 go on tumblr and look for 'radical feminism' and the second thought, just go on tumblr

54 min later 3018161 Anonymous (1396015133138.jpg 150x150 5kB)
>>3018039 >mfw you will never be the guy in the middle...

56 min later 3018171 Anonymous
>>3017974 Men trying to be women absolutely concerns women.

1 hours later 3018203 Anonymous
>>3018145 If you actively seek out TERFs, you will find TERFs, but that doesn't really say much about how representative they are. I go on Tumblr all the time: mostly to look at porn. Sometimes I read vaguely social justicey people's accounts, but they're generally the pro-trans sort of social justice.

1 hours later 3018204 Anonymous (342.jpg 1257x880 634kB)
>>3018134 not to mention that many gay men have a lot of fantasies based on patriarchy kind of world. Because that's what is in our hearts. And there is not so much difference between patriarchy and matriarchy. Because these tho things are the same sides of the same coin. Only first one fits to me a little bit more. You need to be a humanist to defend human rights. Not just a feminist.

1 hours later 3018209 Anonymous
>>3018171 gtfo TERF

1 hours later 3018240 Anonymous
>>3018209 what is TERF? actually what is TERF, MRA, CIS? I keep hearing this stuff on tumbr but have no idea.

1 hours later 3018242 Anonymous
>>3018203 You don't need to seek them out. Just on this board, wait and look at trans threads.

1 hours later 3018244 Anonymous
>>3018240 Trans-exlusionary radical feminist, Mens rights activist, cisgendered (basically normal gendered, opposite of trans)

1 hours later 3018263 Anonymous
>>3018244 >cisgendered >normally gendered oh i see. I thought it means just heterosexual people.

1 hours later 3018278 Anonymous
Do TERFs identify as TERFs, or do they not like the name? What do they consider themselves? Also, what is their position on FtMs? (I notice they dont use MtF or FtM, but rather MtT and FtT)

1 hours later 3018286 Anonymous
>>3018278 >what is their position on FtM heard terms like "gender-traitor" tossed arounf I don't think they mind the term, I never came across TERF salty about being called one

1 hours later 3018298 Anonymous
>>3018278 They don't think they're being exclusionary. They think trans doesn't real, so they're sticking up for women-only spaces where there are no men, and think trans women are men (and trans men are women who've tried to betray the cause).

1 hours later 3018314 Anonymous
>>3018039 googling Jezabel and BDSM will get you there, the gist is that it's reinforcing bad gender roles, EVEN if it is two gay males because the submissive is the 'women' of the situation. Yes that is their own interpretation and yes the hypocrisy is real

1 hours later 3018337 Anonymous (6f18d836235a3cff3d480b6ddb24bd5a.jpg 236x356 20kB)
>>3018314

1 hours later 3018352 Anonymous
>>3018314 Jezabel also claims being gay is a choice and is of course misogynistic because it desexualizes women

1 hours later 3018355 Anonymous
It's funny how people are so scared of feminists. Typical male behavior to lash out when faced with narcissistic injury.

1 hours later 3018360 Anonymous
>>3018278 >Do TERFs identify as TERFs, or do they not like the name? >#TERF IS A SLUR

1 hours later 3018366 Anonymous
>>3018355 lol >if disagrees with me it must be male typical feminist

1 hours later 3018393 Anonymous (1386597972707.jpg 191x203 11kB)
>>3018314 >EVEN if it is two gay males because the submissive is the 'women' of the situation >the submissive is the 'women' >the submissive is the 'women' WHAT the actual fuck? Do they even know that the "who is the woman" stereotype is old and homophobic as hell? Any gay who hears that can beat the crap out of that person because everybody hates that stereotype. Welp.....i can't see how feminazies will make people hate them even more from now. //sarcasm// PS: Holy shit thought..."the submissive is a woman"... that's so homophobic even for a fat-skinned person like me. PPS: And why the hell some idiotic feminists should decide what is good or bad for gay males? Fuck off. Nobody will ever take them seriously.

1 hours later 3018406 Anonymous (1403892201515.jpg 960x1000 243kB)
>>3017898 It's not killing LGBT communities, it's just screeching loudly about how LGBT-friendly it is. For us, it's a little bit like realizing that the extremely annoying car alarm that's been going off outside for half an hour is from our own car and you were the one who accidentally started it by sitting on your keys, you start frantically searching for your keys again to shut it off because you know how obnoxious it is. That's basically what feminism is to the LGBT community.

1 hours later 3018408 Anonymous
>>3018352 >Jezabel also claims being gay is a choice and is of course misogynistic because it desexualizes women Where i can read that? There is a screenshot that needs to be made.

1 hours later 3018417 Anonymous
>>3018393 >Do they even know that the "who is the woman" stereotype is old and homophobic as hell? not to mention sexist which is a funniest shit to me but it's a typical case of "if woman doesn't like what I like it's patriarchy brainwashing" that's so popular among feminists what, do you really think it was about woman making their own choices?

1 hours later 3018433 Anonymous
>>3018355 Who's scared of feminists? We just find them annoying.

1 hours later 3018443 Anonymous
Why should transsexuals get to decide what makes someone a woman?

1 hours later 3018449 Anonymous (Projecting.jpg 490x333 30kB)
>>3018355 People are "scared" of feminists the way you are "scared" when you're sitting on a plane and you realize that you're sitting right in front of a crying screaming toddler who keeps trying to kick the seat ahead of him (yours) as hard as he can and that his parents aren't going to stop him. It's not fear, it's annoyance, pure and simple.

1 hours later 3018455 Anonymous (ohsnap.png 825x536 178kB)
>>3018443 Of course transsexuals shouldn't decide that. Neither should feminists. Let's leave it to the neurobiologists.

1 hours later 3018457 Anonymous
>>3018433 People are scared because they don't want to accept the fact that they live in a male dominated society, so instead of thinking about it, they just attack feminists and call them delusional.

1 hours later 3018459 Anonymous
>>3018366 tranny detected

1 hours later 3018463 Anonymous (14618921.jpg 318x395 27kB)
>>3018355 >lash out when faced with narcissistic injury ooh so how was that intro class? i had to miss it for freshman hockey inductions

1 hours later 3018469 Anonymous
>>3018457 I'm not scared. I'm very comfortable. I'm aware we live in a male dominated society and think steps should be taken to smash the glass ceiling, but am bored when feminists start crapping everyone over innocuous stuff like "Blurred Lines".

1 hours later 3018473 Anonymous
>>3018459 TERF detected you guys see trannies everywhere

1 hours later 3018476 Anonymous
>>3018473 >you guys Sexist!

1 hours later 3018485 Anonymous
No, aids is

1 hours later 3018486 Anonymous
>>3018457 >they just attack feminists and call them delusional. you are delusional. You don't even need to go to tumblr to see how stupid is what they doing to their reputation. But who am i talking about after all... Feminists can't change anything untill they will change the way their minds go which is completely impossible.

1 hours later 3018491 Anonymous
Didn't TERF's fuck up the healthcare options available to transsexuals in the U.S. back in the 70's and 80's?

1 hours later 3018492 Anonymous
>>3018455 You all cling to that study but its junk science. Its most likely affected by HRT, and I know how they scanned the brains of dead people, there's no guarantee they didnt experiment with HRT on the black market

1 hours later 3018499 Anonymous
>>3018491 Yes. TERFs are assuredly the worst enemies of transsexuals around because they mask transphobia under the guise of feminist politics and then can claim bipartisanship when they team up with conservatives. If you look at the real results of radical feminists, you realize quickly that they are indeed very conservative, just with different justifications. Just because someone calls it rain when they piss on someone else doesn't make it so; radfems are conservative.

1 hours later 3018514 Anonymous
>>3018492 >You all I'm cis. You're not qualified to determine what makes a man and what makes a woman just because you've read a bit of bell hooks

1 hours later 3018519 Anonymous
>>3018492 But wait, if HRT can actually cause the brain itself to become that of the other gender... why not let them do that if that's what they want? That's their business, what do you care?

2 hours later 3018531 Anonymous
>>3018499 Can i get a source this?

2 hours later 3018536 Anonymous
>>3018531 *for

2 hours later 3018563 Anonymous (how to stop gay marriage.png 702x494 655kB)
>>3018531 Source on what, exactly? The fact that TERFs are conservative in their views on this? Take a look at what it is TERFs and their cousins, political lesbians, actually believe: - Transwomen are men no matter what they do, and transmen are lesbians who are bullied into becoming men. TERFs believe this, and so do conservatives. TERFs believe in removing protections for transsexuals, and so do conservatives. - Genders should avoid mixing. TERFs claim this is to prevent harm to women. Conservatives claim this is to prevent harm to women. - There is something inherently feminine about 'womyn-born womyn' that transsexuals cannot reproduce. TERFs and conservatives both believe this. In fact, on many key points, radical feminists of all stripes agree with social conservatives. Both are anti-porn, pro-segregation, pro-censorship, and in favor of tight social controls. Neither particularly likes freedom, though both claim to want freedom for certain groups of people and certain groups of people alone. Radfems and TERFs justify this by using women as their shield. Social conservatives justify this by using Christians as their shield. It doesn't matter; the sociopolitical results are the same. It's pretty much only on matters of abortion and women in the workplace where they have any major disagreements. >inb4 "that's a strawman!" None of these points are strawmen and you know it.

2 hours later 3018681 Anonymous
>>3018514 And having one small part of the brain that is there for dubious reasons - never mind how other parts of the brain may be different - while not having the right gender's chromosomes or being born as that gender, gives them the right to say, yes, they are really a man/woman? Please.

2 hours later 3018690 Anonymous
>>3018563 All three of those points by TERFs are incredibly valid.

2 hours later 3018707 Anonymous (1402771713143.png 680x681 466kB)
>>3018690 Sure, buddy.

2 hours later 3018713 Anonymous
>>3018707 Go back to lesgen you dyke.

2 hours later 3018729 Anonymous (1404659531851.jpg 100x100 8kB)
>>3018713

2 hours later 3018733 Anonymous
>>3018563 The person in that pic is totally right, any lesbian would be drooling for cock after seeing that picture.

2 hours later 3018762 Anonymous (bingley-giggles.gif 250x206 445kB)
>>3018681 >chromosomes >mfw de la Chapelle syndrome >mfw androgen insensitivity syndrome >mfw XY gonadal dysgenesis hey maybe it's not down to men to decide who are men and women to decide who are women but people to decide what gender is there's no point arguing with you because you're not going to change your mind, but you're wrong so w/e

3 hours later 3018781 Anonymous
>>3018408 just google it. someone might have capped or pastebinned one of them. i remember about a month or so ago on /lgbt/ and /pol/ someone posted a jezabel article about how gay bars have too much of a "boy's club" vibe and make women uncomfortable. it then went on about how being gay is sexist because it desexualizes women and gay men need to keep their gay privilege in check.

3 hours later 3018787 Tripfag
>>3018781 Oh yeah, I remember that. I thought that was quite a bit longer than a month ago, but it was this year. God that article just went on forever, that guy had no idea how to make a succinct point, but then, it's Jezebel. What else is new?

3 hours later 3018789 Anonymous
>>3018781 Jezebal is a fucking joke when it come to journalism, so that wouldn't surprise me

3 hours later 3018791 Anonymous (1403087701512.gif 600x450 90kB)
>>3018762 >men can't define being male >women can't define being female I'm not who you responded to. I just don't know what compelled you to state something like that, and I don't really want to know.

4 hours later 3019146 Anonymous
TERFS are like /b/ but worse. Because they're basically like ''tits of GTFO'' or ''NO NATTURAL VAG MEANS GTFO!!'' Which is ironic since they say they hate patriarchy, yet act exactly like the most sexist and patriarchal of them all. The want to define what makes a woman, instead of letting women define themselves. And that's essentially patriarchy. they just call it rad feminism, because they know people give women more leyway when it comes to discrimination. another patriarchal sterotype. Nobody would dare openly speak out against TERF's since they don't want to become the enemy. of a group who can impose such ridge and conformist ideas, like this is what a woman is and is not and this is what a man is and is not. It's a really beautiful coup.

4 hours later 3019156 Anonymous
>>3019146 >The want to define what makes a woman, instead of letting women define themselves. That makes no sense. They want women, and only women, to define themselves. They don't want men to change the definition of women to suit their own needs.

4 hours later 3019186 Anonymous
>>3019156 they dont want women to define themselves. they want women to be defined by THEIR standards. Notice the difference between their and women in general. Being too sexy? nope fuck right off a cliff. Being too tame, patriarchy's problem for making you conservative. Anyways most feminists are shit because they doublethink and truly believe their tweets will change the world. Real world feminists either are radical or are neutral/reasonable enough that they've started to distance themselves from the label.

4 hours later 3019191 Anonymous
>>3019156 No, thats exactly it. for example, They dont think a woman who works in sex industry is a woman because shes ''betraying'' women by letting patriarchy use her. They don't think a woman who does BDSM is in control and being abused. They dont want women to define themselves, they want women to use the ideal they set out for them with no deviation. Which is exactly the whole point of why TERF's are just bad in general. And is exactly what the patriarchy they want to smash tries to also enforce.. That barbie doll images are goo or bad. Forgetting of course all the Binary women who basically are or want to be barbie dolls because thats what they WANT. Anyone who deviates from the idea that this is wrong, is seen a traitor. They dont accept trans men as men they see them as just butch lesbians. The believe you can ''chose'' you sexuality even though millions dont feel that way all. And they don't believe that trans even exists. >>3019186 also this They ARE the patriarchy.

4 hours later 3019208 Anonymous
I don't understand why it's so wrong they don't consider transsexual women real women. That position does not seem very unreasonable to me, and it's easy to see why they would be offended by it.

4 hours later 3019234 Anonymous
>>3019186 Also i don't like having to split feminism up, it feels too much like divide and conquer. But basically someone who sits at home and trolls twitter or Tumblr all day is exactly NOT a real feminist. the real feminists are like you say. The ones going out fighting for equality for everyone. Based on the whole point of being such an oppressed gender for so long. The only real radical idea is that women can and should be treated as equal to men in every way.

4 hours later 3019245 Anonymous
>>3019234 Fighting equality for everyone is not necessarily a goal, you dont have to fight for otherkin rights for example. It is not a requirement that feminists defend transsexuals

4 hours later 3019275 Anonymous
>>3019208 They base the entirely of a woman AROUND her sexual organs only. Yet, in the same breath say that patriarchy defines women by their genitals only and that that is wrong. They also put forward the idea that patriarchy hates women genitals. Yet I've never met a straight man who hate pussy. But then they say the whole male ego of defineing a womans worth by her genital is bad. They SAY there is more to being a woman that clothes or whatever. But then reduce it down to the pussy always. for trans women, having an operation to give them female genitals in at least partial functionality. They call them ''fuckholes'' and yet then rage when either a woman or a man calls thier own vagina or somone elses a fuckhole. if there is more to women, for them it begins and end only with whats inside a person pants. not whats in thier heads, not whats in thier hearts. and thats it. thats why they are a self defeating group.

4 hours later 3019280 Anonymous
>>3018492 So you'd rather base your decisions on nothing rather than something that is unlikely to cover the whole picture? 1% facts is already better than 0% facts, dear.

4 hours later 3019287 Anonymous
>>3019275 >They base the entirely of a woman AROUND her sexual organs only. Not true. A big problem they have with transsexual women is that they didn't grow up as women and have to face living as a woman in a male dominated world. They often say "you act as if growing up as female is not an important part of being female"

4 hours later 3019290 Anonymous
>>3019245 true. it's not. It just somthing i feel strongly about. Trans woman are women and thats that. Its the non passing trans women they hate because in the end, they cant tell the difference from a passing trans woman from a real woman. Until the genital inspection. And i hate that idea. it seems like some kind of concentration rape camp shit. And it's so against my beliefs that a woman is defined by her vagina and nothing else.

4 hours later 3019300 Anonymous
>>3019287 and hear that. But for a lot of trans women, they had to to grow up basically having to hide who they are because of patriarchy too. If anything i see it like the most severe form of female oppression. A woman, trapped in a mans body, forced to live as a man in a mans world. Would be hell.

4 hours later 3019309 Anonymous
>>3019290 Hey, did someone really suggest genital inspection at any point in feminist discussion? Kinda curious, it would be in favor of calling them 'feminazis'

4 hours later 3019320 Anonymous
>>3019300 it's like forced masculation. Like forced fminizing a stright guy or somthing into a women and then getting his to have sex with men would be pretty hellish. Being forced to be a man when everything screaming inside is woman. Would be nightmarish. I wonder if a beautiful woman, who was straight was captured. Masculinized unwilling and forced to have sex with woman. Would be hell.

4 hours later 3019324 Anonymous
>>3019309 Sorry, but Godwin's law still applies. :[

4 hours later 3019329 Anonymous
>>3019234 No, that was old feminism. Right now that's what egalitarians do. But if you don't like divide and conquer, you should steer clear of feminism. They have trying to take over other movements for a long time now. Is there anything weirder than feminazing atheism into Atheism+? The feminist movement is done, it killed itself.

4 hours later 3019334 Anonymous
>>3019245 While it is not a requirement to defend transsexuals, it would be a requirement to not ATTACK them. And feminism did just that.

5 hours later 3019338 Anonymous
>>3019309 well i mean how else apart from a genital inspection would a passing trans woman not be seen as a woman? just an idea. NO Neo Vagina no matter how convincing on the outside will pass a full inspection. but unless it gets to that point. who would know and why would they care UNLESS is came to sex. I've know women who just pass so easily. They never have hardships. Because nobody suspects. And if it comes to sex? so what. if suddenly the woman in front of you has loved you and liked you and laughed with you and agreed with you and become a freind uptil that moment. That makes them the most shallow person.

5 hours later 3019346 Anonymous
>>3018263 Heterosexual isn't cis. Cis means, to paraphrase a joke I heard once, that when the doctor said "It's a [___]!" you were just like "truuu" your whole life.

5 hours later 3019536 Anonymous
It is always completely retarded when people mistake Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism for Radical Feminism and mistake Radical Feminism for the dozen other kinds of feminism. Or the whole fucking thing. It takes the barest fucking knowledge, which in the internet era is inexcusible not to have.

5 hours later 3019552 Anonymous
>>3018240 Cis isn't an acronym. Have you never taken a chemistry course, jesus christ.

6 hours later 3019655 Anonymous
>>3018012 >The PS2 sucked I wish hell existed so she could burn in it

6 hours later 3019680 Anonymous
>>3019655 i don't even know why she said that. I mean, really. It makes no sense.

6 hours later 3019791 Anonymous
>>3019309 When I couldn't pass as well as I do now, I had some woman grab at my crotch in bathrooms to see if I were a "real woman" as if that's somehow ok because I'm trans. After she basically molested me, she would sometimes physically assault me and harass me until I left. One even kicked a stall door down just to try to drag me out. Then she got her butch girlfriend to yell at me until some friends came over to see what was wrong. Other similar things have happened to me, but that was the worst. Thankfully I don't get bothered now because I look any average semi-pretty woman, which reinforced to me just how utterly sexist and obsessed with physical appearance radical feminists are. I've even had butch lesbian friends who were harassed by feminists because they seem like men.

7 hours later 3019815 Anonymous
>>3019536 You honestly expect people to parse every single little sect of radical feminism and know just how many ridiculously offensive statements made by radical feminists in the 60s, 70s, and 80s were "corrected" later as the ideological cult tried to cover their asses in the internet age after decades of hate?

10 hours later 3020655 Anonymous
>>3018789 *the entirety of Gawker media fix't

11 hours later 3020732 Anonymous
>>3019655 >Not believing in Hell on a Christian Family image board. Be gone heretic!

11 hours later 3020816 Anonymous
>>3019815 No, I expect you to have two braincells and realize "oh maybe these people that call themselves something that just happens to end in feminist do not represent all feminists everywhere," you drooling sock puppet.

12 hours later 3020925 Anonymous (autism general.jpg 600x615 82kB)
>>3018485 kek'd

12 hours later 3020948 Anonymous
although a lot of feminists are reasonable, there are a few who are totally insane, and talk over other people's issues.

19 hours later 3021890 Anonymous
>>3017898 because feminists are the AIDS killing everything.

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