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2013-02-07 02:28 31341743 Anonymous Sharing (share-main_full.jpg 600x400 50kB)
File sharing is now legal in Europe. Does your country have awesome human rights too? >http://falkvinge.net/2013/02/07/co urt-of-human-rights-convictions-for -file-sharing-violates-human-rights /

5 min later 31341822 Anonymous
Good. Actually, this is insane, I did not think I would see this day, I honestly had no hope and thought the whole civilized world was going to be stuck with this insanity until the revloution

8 min later 31341865 Anonymous
LOL learn to read. Doesn't make it "legal" at all.

10 min later 31341885 Anonymous
>>31341865 Why not?

11 min later 31341906 Anonymous
Just says the convictions are illegal. You can still get sued for breaking copyright laws.

12 min later 31341909 Anonymous
>>31341865 You cant get penalized in any way for doing it now , how does that make it illegal?

13 min later 31341915 Anonymous
>>31341906 >You can still get sued for breaking copyright laws. You can't get convicted though.

14 min later 31341937 Anonymous
>>31341906 In many european contries there are litterly no money in suing people unless the person being sued caused a big loss for the company or made a lot of money on what he took.

16 min later 31341955 Anonymous
Rick Falkvinge less than three.

17 min later 31341972 Anonymous
>>31341915 >It is, in other words, no longer sufficient to justify a sanction or any other judicial order restricting one’s artistic or journalistic freedom of expression on the basis that a copyright law provision has been infringed. So you can get sued, but you cant get sued purely on the basis of breaking a copyright law? >>31341937 Suing is only an option when a company wants to make an example of someone. I remember there was a guy in the UK that got extradited to the US so he could face criminal charges there instead. Probably that and the recent aaron swartz case were the things that pushed them over.

18 min later 31341984 Anonymous
>>31341972 >So you can get sued, but you cant get sued purely on the basis of breaking a copyright law? Only if you endanger the democracy.

19 min later 31341992 Anonymous (jew_detected.jpg 400x400 73kB)
>503 Service Unavailable >Shut it down

19 min later 31341996 Anonymous
>A court that tries somebody for violating the copyright monopoly must now also show that a conviction is necessary to defend democracy itself in order to convict Wow...

20 min later 31341998 Anonymous
>>31341984 That's a really vague definition of a crime

21 min later 31342015 Anonymous
This seems ridiculous. There has to be a catch.

21 min later 31342019 Anonymous
>>31341984 What does that even mean?

21 min later 31342020 Anonymous
>>31341996 > I’d love to see the copyright industry lobby try to make a case why it is necessary to defend democracy to convict a single mother of three who shared pop songs.

29 min later 31342108 op
>http://falkvinge.net Yea, I'd trust legal analysis from there. Totally.

29 min later 31342113 Anonymous
>>31342020 >>31342015 >>31341998 >>31341984 I'm pretty sure this is a law that says : Torrrent users are safe, you can do whatever you want, but we will be going after the websites and forums that hold the content that you 'share'

33 min later 31342159 Anonymous
>>31342108 Then you're an ignoramus because the article is sourced. http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng /pages/search.aspx?i=001-115845#{"i temid":["001-115845"]} There's a 'spot of blog' link as well with an English summary but it's censored on 4chan.

34 min later 31342162 Anonymous
>>31342108 >talking down on Falkvinge Look at this: >Nikola Tesla >implying I'd entrust my science to this crazy Serb >implying he's worth shit >implying implications >2012 >still believing in Einsteins "magic"

37 min later 31342203 Anonymous
>>31342015 >This seems ridiculous. There has to be a catch. No catch. Populist EU governments want to appease the people People want to fileshare Only AMERICAN (not EU) companies want to stop file sharing Therefore; file sharing is legal Of course both the RIAA and the MPAA have a branch in Europe, but it's no where near as strong.

37 min later 31342212 Anonymous
>>31341906 >You can still get sued for breaking copyright laws. No, you can't. No company would ever spend that much time suing someone who can't even afford to buy music, let alone pay damages. You must be a silly, naive person.

40 min later 31342239 Anonymous
>>31342159 No, you're the ignoramus for trying to confuse the link to the ruling with the credibility of the author's analysis.

40 min later 31342248 Anonymous (image.jpg 300x57 3kB)
This is a fine example of why europe > ameruca

41 min later 31342265 Anonymous
>>31342239 Except Falkvinge's analysis comes directly from the ECHR's summary on the (unlinkable from here) 'spot of blog' link.

43 min later 31342290 Anonymous (Selection_001.png 543x675 73kB)
>>31342239

44 min later 31342308 Anonymous
>>31342159 To continue to demonstrate why you're the ignoramus, here's some analysis by a PhD and head of a business school: "Due to the important wide margin of appreciation available to the national authorities in this particular case, the impact of Article 10 however is very modest and minimal." (search this phrase on google for link. it won't let me post because it thinks it's spam) Stay in school kids.

46 min later 31342345 Anonymous
>>31342265 No, that's incorrect. It's his analysis, in which he quotes the ECHR.

46 min later 31342350 Anonymous
>>31341743 i can hear the assholes of hollywood execs slamming shut and grinding right now. my ears know ecstacy.

47 min later 31342359 Anonymous
Whelp, time to fire up the torrents.

48 min later 31342371 Anonymous (1359839906653.gif 350x263 2930kB)
Why is america becoming such a terrible country now? The gap of benefits of living here is becoming so small I almost want to pack up and live with my european family. It's like the second coming of the soviet union, but instead of one mad dictator, you have many mad corporations dictating everything.

49 min later 31342383 Anonymous
>>31342371 I take it he got hooked?

50 min later 31342394 Anonymous
Sweet, all my eurobros can seed even more now while I cap my uploads and delete the torrent afterwards. Its a win win.

50 min later 31342398 Anonymous
>>31342371 >>31342371 >Why is america becoming such a terrible country now? implying was ever good. You see america is like /b/. It is and always has been shit but people like to think that it used to be better because they were there from the start and blame the newcomers or the foreigners but the truth of the matter is america is shit and always will be shit and there is nothing you can do about it

51 min later 31342412 Anonymous
>>31342371 You should read about what life was like under communism. With all due respect, anyone who thinks America is anything like that is seriously unaware.

52 min later 31342433 Anonymous
>>31342371 Vietnamese cunts sure fire up easy.

53 min later 31342458 Anonymous
>>31342371 Because that's how America has always been; a country of blind sheep.

54 min later 31342468 Anonymous
>>31342398 It's a first world country so by definition it's good. It's just that too many americans are thought to be lazy and not give a damn about legislation that favors corporations while they relocate oversees.

55 min later 31342470 Anonymous
>>31342412 You mean socialism. I know damn well the difference, my european mother and family grew up in socialist poland. What I mean is not socialism, but that same kind of tight control over the country. For example, the soviet union would waste money and time being paranoid and engaging in stupid conflicts instead of focusing on its people or economy. While the us isn't as bad as soviet union, it's still wasting moeny on useless security measures for airports, wasting time putting a good portion of the population for a gram or two of marijuana, and wasting time fighting wars in the graveyard of empires (the middle east). Before the US had a good manufacturing base. Now that it doesn't, it has to rely on great importing to do anything. It's going on a railroad set for hell.

56 min later 31342484 Anonymous
>>31342470 >wasting time putting a good portion of the population for a gram or two of marijuana putting people in jail*

1 hours later 31342549 Anonymous
>>31342371 >Why is america becoming such a terrible country now? the boomers came into power

1 hours later 31342568 Anonymous
>>31341865 ``people can no longer get convicted for violating the copyright monopoly alone. The court just declared it illegal for any court in Europe to convict somebody for breaking the copyright monopoly law when sharing culture, only on the merits of breaking the law."

1 hours later 31342598 Anonymous
>>31342398 Well fuck I never thought of it like that. And when you leave for a quick visit to check out other countries (once you come to accept other countries exist and you can tolerate their differences) you realize how better everything is outside of there, and eventually leave and never turn back?

1 hours later 31342616 Anonymous
this is EU telling hollywood and other US entertainment corporations "nigga u won't get my citizens money anymore"

1 hours later 31342626 Anonymous
>>31342568 thereby simply changing the standard for conviction. harm to the culture producers would have to be shown to imply a "threat to democracy".

1 hours later 31342630 Anonymous
>>31342598 exactly and everyone once you come back for a quick visit and just find out that it got even shittier and it just keeps getting shittier with time

1 hours later 31342644 Anonymous (1355776452001.jpg 480x360 15kB)
>2010 >Spain >"P2P networks are mere conduits for the transmission of data between Internet users, and on this basis they do not infringe rights protected by Intellectual Property laws"

1 hours later 31342671 Anonymous
>>31342644 If more pro-gay activists were like him, there'd be a lot less anti-gay sentiments.

1 hours later 31342672 Anonymous (känsla.jpg 983x550 60kB)
nothing changed, the odds of getting sued here is almost nil

1 hours later 31342761 Marisa Kirisame
>>31342644 And yet we had shit like the Sinde law.

1 hours later 31342976 Anonymous
>you can not take my 1's and 0's, they are mine! such a silly concept.

1 hours later 31342994 Anonymous
>>31342761 >Digital canon Dear god, why didn't you kill that bitch? Even when one of the highers ups (or just a representative, don't remember) ended up running a pirated windows, nothing happened. How can these faggots justify such a thing, and at the same time, allow p2p. So, they can get more money, implying that everybody will use p2p, so they have to get money for their artists?

1 hours later 31343033 Anonymous
>>31341743 I was safe enough before, but this is good news.

1 hours later 31343136 Anonymous
>>31343033 Same here, but it is good to see this happening.

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