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2013-01-14 06:35 17010203 Anonymous Dumb Questions (1358106882700s.jpg 214x213 7kB)
Alright /fit/ I got one for you: >Muscle Memory How much broscience is this? Is there any legitimacy to it?

1 min later 17010223 Anonymous
Muscle memory exists. What about it do you want to know?

2 min later 17010243 Anonymous
>>17010203 Its not broscience. Im not going to google scientific sources, do it yourself.

2 min later 17010251 Anonymous (1357219567702.gif 320x227 1812kB)
>>17010203 It's a legitimate thing, but maybe not what you're thinking. I've played basketball for most of my life. I neglected developing my left hand for a long time and I can't dribble with it like my right because I don't have the muscle memory. If I go out and do dribbling drills with it, it develops the muscle memory.

4 min later 17010284 Anonymous
>>17010203 How do you think people play instruments?

4 min later 17010291 Anonymous
muscle memory is a fact. you prove it completely eveytime you tie your shoes.

5 min later 17010299 Anonymous
>>17010203 Your muscles remember nothing. Your brain remembers, which makes it easier to gain after a lifting hiatus since less neural work need be done. It can also refer to training your subconscious or PNS reactions.

8 min later 17010358 Anonymous
>>17010299 >training your subconscious by definition of subconscious that isn't possible. also, subconscious isn't an actual thing, it's more of an idea like the id or ego.

9 min later 17010382 Anonymous (1357383731949.gif 500x300 1000kB)
>>17010299 yfw

12 min later 17010431 Anonymous
OP here. Ok, I guess I have to be more specific. I know about sports and music you have to have muscle memory to get good. I was talking about lifting. Does your body retain a certain level of memory to build quicker to get back to the level you once were able to lift?

13 min later 17010455 Anonymous
>>17010431 you're muscle doesn't go away, if you can lift 100 lbs today you can lift 100 lbs 2 years from now. that's not muscle memory its just muscle.

15 min later 17010488 Anonymous (1355985529806.gif 220x165 1439kB)
>>17010455 2/10

15 min later 17010491 Anonymous
>>17010455 No way is that true. Your body can burn muscle for energy just the same as fat.

16 min later 17010514 Anonymous
>>17010491 0/10 are you even tying samefag

17 min later 17010525 Anonymous
>>17010455 please be trolling

18 min later 17010540 Anonymous
>>17010514 Not samefag, check post times Lurk moar faggot

20 min later 17010571 Anonymous
>>17010431 I don't think (don't quote me) the CNS deteriorates as much as the other aspects of lifting, so you'd probably have an advantage in terms of fibre recruitment and such.

20 min later 17010574 Anonymous
>>17010455 Nnnnooooooo? You'll be able to do the movements but the strength isn't something that just sticks around without stimulation. Of course 100 lbs is babyweight anyway, so that scenario works anyway.

21 min later 17010586 Anonymous
>>17010540 Looking like 2 and a half minutes between those two posts samefag

21 min later 17010595 Anonymous
>>17010455 >you're muscle >you are muscle And you guys are replying seriously to that post.

22 min later 17010616 Anonymous
Yes. It's much easier to gain muscle back than to originally gain it in the first place. I had to spend 6 weeks off of lifting due to an elbow injury from wrestling, and when I came back I had gained all of the muscle back within about 2 weeks.

23 min later 17010625 Anonymous
>>17010431 See, one thing that no one mentioned is that your muscles for have a muscle memory. In such that doing the same exercise repeatedly for a while will decrease gains over time. You want to switch up your exercise every now and again to maximize gains

25 min later 17010648 Anonymous (2ebg51h.gif 500x525 407kB)
>>17010455 lies, >started lifting six months ago. after two years no lift >thought to myself muscle *memory how true is it* >bullshit. >took me six months, three day split >for christmas benched 90lbs DBs for reps >probably could've done it sooner but the point of the story that isn't how muskle memory works >lifting x-mas break PR, fml(kinda)

25 min later 17010653 Anonymous
>>17010625 Ah yes time for muscle confusion.

26 min later 17010663 Anonymous
>>17010586 0/10 09:50:55 09:51:11 That's sixteen seconds. Learn to count, shitbrain.

26 min later 17010674 Anonymous
>>17010653 Alright m8 >deadlift day >load up 540 for a new PR >grab the bar >about to lift it >then suddenly, turn around and run to the bench >bench 340lbs instantly, all dem muscles are confused as fuck I had the wildest orgasm on that day btw

29 min later 17010699 Anonymous
>>17010203 its broscience for the most part, but there is a lil bit reality. when you (and you body) learn something new, your nervous system creates more connections. a tree makes for a good analogy. a tree with zero branches is like a human in a coma. more branches, more leaves. more leaves, learn and adapt to things faster. >>your muscles dont remember shit >>your nervous system (brain, spine, etc.) does.

29 min later 17010713 Anonymous
>>17010455 You're fucking delusional. But would it be easier to gain the muscle back after losing it over time, then to develop it in the first place?

33 min later 17010765 Anonymous
i did read a SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE on apoptosis in skeletal muscle... it doesn't exists. if you have trained to the point where the cells dont just hypertrophy, but actually split and duplicate (hyperplasia), then you shouldn't be losing much strength at all

36 min later 17010812 Anonymous (samefag.png 1366x768 167kB)
>>17010663 3/10 made me use paint

37 min later 17010821 Anonymous
cerebellum is for muscle memory themoreyouknow.jpg

40 min later 17010873 Anonymous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myelin It isnt so hard.

41 min later 17010895 Anonymous
>>17010765 how do I into hyperplasia.

44 min later 17010936 Anonymous
>>17010812 Thought you meant the second post and the one in the middle. Still didn't samefag because I'm not an aspie.

45 min later 17010965 .\0
Literally just read something on this minutes ago (doggcrapp). Think of your muscles as being in a bag. By stretching out the bag, you have more room to fit more things in it. After you take things out of the bag, the bag will still be stretched. So when you fill the bag up again, you'll still be able to fit more things in than you could originally. I haven't read too much into it, so not sure what to make of it. tl;dr: Your muscles have room to grow the second time around vs the first.

49 min later 17011010 Anonymous
>>17010203 >tfw good muscle memory allows pianists to memorize songs long after their musical memory gives out >tfw I play a song, but never think about I do it >tfw muscle memory is great

50 min later 17011018 Anonymous
>>17010936 I figured as much. Samefags aren't generally this persistent

56 min later 17011088 Anonymous
>>17010895 the jury is still out on that one, there is no doubt that the higher the intensity the more likely you'll have it. a test conducted on pigeons showed something like 400% muscle cell increase when subjected to a mechanical load for 16 weeks (iirc) and only about 200% increase when the weight was used 70% of the time. this baffled me as i figured the muscle needs time to repair in order to grow, perhaps over stimulating the muscle every now and again would speed up the hyperplasia, or maybe it was because the birds muscle is different then humans muscle EDIT: those numbers are wrong, but they are similar to the actual figures

58 min later 17011108 Anonymous (fencing7 (1).jpg 990x562 73kB)
>>17010203 Muscle memory is real and crucial for success as every fencer knows (what I'm familiar with). Your brain does not have time to process information during the speed of an attack and relies on quick instinct driven movement to counter and parry any opponent action. Small things in fencing for example, to parry counter clockwise or clockwise, when to attack or retreat are all muscle memory actions defined during hours of training. Anyone who says other is talking through their ass.

58 min later 17011111 Anonymous
>>17010965 >>17010765

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