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2012-12-09 06:49 20491532 Anonymous TOTAL WAR GENERAL (twg.jpg 968x1696 594kB)
Battle Pope Edition Old thread >>20220708

14 min later 20492337 IGdood
TWG FAQ – to be posted every new thread. FEEL FREE TO CONTRIBUTE >What is Guard mode? 1. Units attack less often, meaning they kill less but have a higher chance to block. ALso tire out slower. 2. Units don't pursue fleeing enemies 3. Ranged units will keep shooting if caught in melee. 4. Units that see flanking enemies will turn to face them 5. Units will attempt to hold formation. For pikemen, guard mode off means they begin stabbing the next fucker in front of them instead of lying there with a pike angled up while enemies run between them and hack away. It works wonders only on charging cavalry. In the warscape engine #1 and 4 do not apply anymore. >Why do my units randomly charge? 1. Some units may charge without orders if they’re the undisciplined kind. 2. Did you group units and did group charge? If so, each unit will run forward and then autocharge the closest enemy. >What is ROTS, S2, FOTS? I’m unclear on my Japanese history. 1. RoTS covers the Genpei war, the first real war in Japan. Units fight in loose formation, there’s no real army, just a lot of warbands. Harder than the other games due to how easy it is to kill levy. 2. S2 covers the Sengoku Jidai, basically the “M2-era” of Japan. Guns are coming in, the ashigaru (previously the shit levy/attendants from RoTS) come into their own as a professional military force, though they still get their asses kicked a lot. Yari wall all the way! 3. FoTS covers the Boshin War, the modernization war of Japan. Contrary to what Tom Cruise teaches you, the Shogunate is NOT a backwards, anti-tech faction. They are pro-tech (the Imperialists are actually pro-tech, but anti-foreigners) and backed by the French. Plus Last Samurai is in the era of Satsuma Rebellion anyways.

15 min later 20492358 IGdood
>>20492337 >Good mods for M2? Call of Warhammer – Warhammer Fantasy universe, excellent music and atmosphere Install M2 Install Kingdoms Download patch from TW centre and patch to 1.5 Download Gingantus' rage of dark gods mod http://mjollnir.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=525138 Install that Download and install quickfixes for it and good luck Thera - Uruk Hai vs. Knights vs Longbows vs. Renaissance vs. Roman Empire vs. Native Americans vs. Janissaries vs. Elephants vs. Asia/Samurai/Mongols http://www.gameupdates.org/details.php?id=5220 Stainless Steel – Keeps to the medieval 2 formula, but fixes many things, makes knights OP, adds “Realism” Third Age – Lords of the Rings, total war style. The MOST popular mod out there by far. >Good Mods for RTW Europa Barbarorum – Immense historically accurate unit appearances and vnative language voiceacting. Every end turn gives facts on what happened that year. Moderately fast battles, slow game. AUTISM If you want to be able to train Polybian and Camillan units after the Marian reform and have Augustan reforms come easier, download this and replace. > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13249028/EBBS_SCRIPT.TXT Roma Surrectum – Lots of stacks, lots of carnage. SPQR - Focused entirely on the Roman war machine, it provides one of the best battle AI's in a mod. Expect to fight 10 stacks a turn later on. Slow battles, fast campaign. >Good Mods for ETW and NTW? Unit mods , Darthmod. >Good Mods for S2TW? Unit mods, maybe Darthmod? Opinions divided. Radious unit packs add a lot of units but some are weird like mounted katana ninjas. Definitely get bayonet mod for FoTS. >S2TW has weird sound bugs http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=544459

23 min later 20492825 Anonymous
anyone know where I can get saves for FoS to get achievements, don't feel like playing as some shitty clan.

26 min later 20493001 IGdood
>>20492825 FoS? Why use saves when you can use this? http://gib.me/sam/

53 min later 20494648 Anonymous
Is there a reason to use Gothic knights instead of Teutonic Knights in M2? Disadvantages with Teutonic Knights which I see are not (re)trainable in every fort and lower defense if flanked. But you don't get flanked as horsies.

1 hours later 20495239 Anonymous
>>20494648 Gothic knights look a lot better. No seriously, I have no idea. All I know is that in M2 stat sheets aren't always an accurate representation of actual battlefield performance. It's been years since I was well informed about how the game works, but I seem to remember Gothic Knights being better than their stats suggest.

1 hours later 20495568 IGdood
>>20494648 To be honest there's also things such as unit spacing, unit mass, weapon lethality (different from attack!) etc. to account for.

1 hours later 20495835 Anonymous
>>20495568 I seem to remember something about the armour value in particular being quite inaccurate in M2. All of the armour upgrades only give a +1 armour increase in terms of stats, but I think it was proven that they were actually worth much more. Again this was years ago so I don't really remember.

1 hours later 20495889 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00001.jpg 1600x900 283kB)
A glorious morning in South Africa, and a glorious day to die.

1 hours later 20495917 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00002.jpg 1600x900 457kB)
The savages approach!

1 hours later 20495957 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00003.jpg 1600x900 283kB)
They appear to be gathering to do some strange tribal dance

1 hours later 20495981 Anonymous
Are your unit cards the blokes from Monty Python's Flying Circus?

1 hours later 20495990 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00004.jpg 1600x900 473kB)
The Barbarians charge!

1 hours later 20496013 IGdood
>>20495835 It's not a linear increase, though it's only in Shogun 2 though.

1 hours later 20496032 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00005.jpg 1600x900 433kB)
We shall beat them with our superior weaponry!

1 hours later 20496073 Anonymous
>>20496032 That and your massive bar advantage. Christ man at least try to make it fair.

1 hours later 20496094 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00006.jpg 1600x900 283kB)
18/79 never forget ;_;7 >>20495981 I think they're from the movie Zulu. I've never seen it

1 hours later 20496174 Anonymous
steam group http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral

1 hours later 20496214 Anonymous
>>20496094 >90% bar full >lose nigger HOW

1 hours later 20496268 Anonymous
>>20496214 I didn't really have much room to maneuver. That and nohorses

1 hours later 20496947 Anonymous
Uh so i got rome total war, in my library for few weeks. Im not really fan of the rome period, i prefer medieval, but whatever. I'm very bored lately. Is the singleplayer good? I dont really feel to play the multiplayer.

1 hours later 20497050 Anonymous
>MMurika has military bases around the entire world >the sun never sets on the uhmmmmurikan empire >military spending overshadows all other spending >people think urhmurhikur isn't the new Roman Empire

1 hours later 20497075 IGdood
>>20496947 The whole point of Total War is singleplayer. It's good, but you migt be overwhelmed.

1 hours later 20497746 Anonymous
>>20497050 America right now is akin to the last few years of the Roman Republic but we won't really have an Augustus somewhere in the wings.

2 hours later 20499001 Anonymous
>>20497746 What's funny is we're having a fall, but we didn't really ever have a rise comparable to any empire from history, and by definition, we aren't an empire. The few select countries we do invade, we never really do anything with, and always return them to their previous owners once we remove the vast majority of our military force from them.

2 hours later 20499040 IGdood
>tfw final exams are tomorrow and all I'm doing is playing fucking total war what the fuck am I doing?

2 hours later 20499094 Anonymous
>>20499040 >What am I doing Posting the same thing an entire week straight.

2 hours later 20499207 Anonymous
>>20499001 And, empire-building has been pretty much impossible to do since the bomb. The bomb isn't the sole cause of the death of Imperialism, we also have the super-globalization of culture and economies, over-seeing Military and Political organizations (NATO and the UN) making brash wide-sweeping military actions to forcefully absorb lesser powers unfavorable to a super-powers short and long term goals. We're not living in a world conducive to the traditional idea of empire building. It just can't function as an appropriate way of power-mongering. There's quite a few behaviors that one could say have moved in to replace what once was Imperialism, but none of them bear much resemblance to that antiquated global political system.

2 hours later 20499236 Anonymous
>>20499040 gods work

2 hours later 20499506 Anonymous
>>20495917 >Zulus What? How?

2 hours later 20499921 IGdood
>>20499094 Because I'm a faggot with low morale

2 hours later 20499996 Anonymous
>>20499040 >related the lawschool fag here, found out that one of my colleagues totally missed an entire essay on our torts final yesterday, sucks to be him but it will skew the curve in everyone else's favor ever so slightly

2 hours later 20501304 Anonymous
Can anyone tell me how to increase the unit sizes in S2? Is there just a text file I can edit like for M2? I really want bigger unit sizes but I have playing Darthmod or Radious.

2 hours later 20501318 Anonymous (1349588609137.jpg 357x432 63kB)
>>20499996 Nothing like feasting on the blood of your fallen comrades in order to achieve victory.

2 hours later 20501802 IGdood
>>20501304 GO here C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Shogun2\scripts open preferences.script with notepad change thesenumbers campaign_unit_multiplier 1.5; # campaign_unit_multiplier <float>, Set default unit multiplier for campaign # naval_fleet_multiplier 1; # naval_fleet_multiplier <float>, Set default fleet size for battles #

2 hours later 20502002 Anonymous
>>20499506 Mod

2 hours later 20502035 Anonymous
>>20501802 how about for steam?

2 hours later 20502072 IGdood
>>20502035 S2 and Steam always go together. In other words, same.

2 hours later 20502148 Anonymous
>>20502002 Okay, what I meant was: >what mod?

2 hours later 20502495 Anonymous
>>20502072 what OS are you referring to cause im seriously not seeing what you seem to be seeing i get to my shogun 2 files through program files -> steam -> steamapps -> common -> total war shogun 2 but then there is no further subfolder titled "scripts"

3 hours later 20502613 IGdood
>>20502495 That's the wrong directory. Script files are stored in your user account directory. C-> Users -> your username -> blahblah read my post carefully, please.

3 hours later 20502828 Anonymous (Untitled.png 1920x1080 447kB)
>>20502613 i did read it carefully, please show me where to see AppData under C-> Users -> myname etc

3 hours later 20502879 Anonymous
>>20502148 http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=403556

3 hours later 20503006 Anonymous
>>20496094 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csr0dxalpI

3 hours later 20503184 Anonymous
>>20502613 never mind, apparently its hidden from me so i just executed a run straight to the directory you specified and it took me there

3 hours later 20503247 IGdood
>>20502828 You need to enable Hidden Folders. Yeah, Creative Assembly is.....complicated. Sorry

3 hours later 20503542 Anonymous
i set my default unit size to 3, just to try things out i feel so empowered now

3 hours later 20503682 IGdood
>>20503542 Pathfinding might become a bitch though, and I don't know if warscape becomes unstable.

3 hours later 20503818 Anonymous
>>20503682 my computer is beastly enough to handle the models, but i think 3 is too much yes, it would probably make things like yari wall impossible to execute properly since a yari ashigaru unit is now 600 men maybe 2.25

3 hours later 20503905 IGdood
>>20503818 Yari wall would work and becomes extremely powerful due to the whole multiple ranks of pikes, but that's what archers are for.

3 hours later 20504269 IGdood
Any other fellow modders here?

3 hours later 20504270 Anonymous
>>20503905 well if you remember, i have spoken before in threads about how my yari ashigaru would be in yari wall and then suddenly remove themselves from the formation and go to loose formation and i figured out that it was because there were hugeass numbers of men there and my pike tercos would not, because their unit size was much more reasonable

3 hours later 20504313 IGdood
>>20504270 Hmm.....oh yeah. My bad.

3 hours later 20504791 Anonymous
>>20504313 but, and ill admit it is a definite possibility, that the mod i was running at time was just shit and screwed stuff up ill give this a whirl and see what happens, thanks for your help by the way

3 hours later 20505452 Anonymous
>>20504791 >>20504313 nope just tried it out again, the yari ashigaru left wall formation as soon as they came under fire or an enemy approached

3 hours later 20506190 IGdood
>>20505452 Mm, a pity. Being able to form a yari phalanx would have been nice.

4 hours later 20507551 Anonymous
>>20505452 Does this happen with normal unit sizes and no mods?

4 hours later 20507734 IGdood
>>20507551 No, the game seems to......break down in some aspects on overly huge unit sizes. Still better than the past games though. Those crashed when unit sizes exceeded 241

4 hours later 20510914 Anonymous
hey does anyone know if there is a way to change range of units in the same simple way or does that require more complex modding with things like the tools? i really need to give matchlocks better range

4 hours later 20511256 IGdood
>>20510914 Need tools. Nothing is ever simple with the new games anymore...

5 hours later 20512373 Anonymous
>>20511256 damn it, i guess ill just have to watch those stupid youtube guides, cause i really need to increase matchlock range before i seriously work on an otomo campaign

5 hours later 20513307 Anonymous
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=441305 here, a pack of files that makes matchlock units better without an egotistical greek to go along with it have fun

5 hours later 20513612 Anonymous
>>20513307 his yari ashigaru mod works nicely too

5 hours later 20514446 IGdood
Alright twg, what's your favorite voice-acting/line from the total war games?

5 hours later 20515029 Anonymous (shamefurdispray.jpg 640x482 189kB)
>>20514446 >of course

5 hours later 20515417 Anonymous
>>20514446 THE DAY IS OURS! ALL OF ROME WILL BE AMAZED AT SUCH A VICTORY!

6 hours later 20518674 Anonymous
>>20514446 OWAH WARRIORS AWAH RUNNING FROM THE BATTURFEER A-A SHAMFUR DISPRAY!

6 hours later 20518947 Anonymous
>>20514446 THIS IS A HEROIC VICTORY! WORTHY OF ROMAN ARMS! alternatively: IMPERATOR

6 hours later 20519105 IGdood
>>20518947 HOPLAIGHT MERSUNRIS

6 hours later 20519565 Anonymous
>>20513612 holy shit that mod makes yari ashigaru formations incredibly pretty to look at, so regimented, so ordered it makes me feel like a fascist

6 hours later 20519843 Kanga
>>20499207 nigga you crazy Emperor Reagan vastly expanded our territory

6 hours later 20519931 Anonymous
>>20519843 america hasn't gained any territory since the end of WW2, leased bases and consulates are not territory sorta off topic, but i am of the opinion that if we had annexed Iraq and Afghanistan and worked to develop the territory as our own, we would be in a far better position in the middle east than we are right now, but thats just me

6 hours later 20520224 Kanga
>>20519931 we didn't annex them, but we've put in place puppet governments around the world (most recently Iraq and Afghanistan) and have crushed socialist governments for right wing dictatorships (Allende, for example) Guam, Panama, Nicaragua, Guatemala, the list goes on of nations where we've helped to put in place governments more in line with our business interests just how much have you studied of American foreign policy?

6 hours later 20520373 Anonymous
>>20520224 So you admit he is right?

6 hours later 20520435 Anonymous
>>20514446 OWAH GENWAW IS IN GWEAT DANGAR, MY LORD!

6 hours later 20520510 Anonymous
any word on if the "tech tree" like in shogun 2 will be in the new rome 2?

6 hours later 20520698 Kanga
>>20520373 I was joking about Emperor Reagan expanding our territory. Even an autist should be able to recognize that.

6 hours later 20520814 IGdood
>>20520510 I'm not sure....but while in S2 upgrades gave stat changes to units, in R2 it seems that we can go more in-depth and change the equipment of our soldiers...

7 hours later 20521318 Anonymous
>>20520814 >change the equipment of our soldiers You know the autists will ruin it

7 hours later 20521464 IGdood
>>20521318 They'll find a way to mod it out. I'll probably find a way to keep my hastati even after the Marian (or even Augustan!) reforms....hopefully.

7 hours later 20521830 Anonymous
>equipt all legionaries with Falxes yes...

7 hours later 20521974 IGdood
>>20521830 Post that on twc. I double dare you.

7 hours later 20522217 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00001.jpg 1920x1080 414kB)
I set my unit size modifier to 1.5. Is this... what it's supposed to be?

7 hours later 20522309 Anonymous
>>20521464 >modding out what will be an awesome addition fucking autistic fucks

7 hours later 20522346 Anonymous
>>20522217 i think 1.5 is the default "ultra" unit size, i have found that 2.5 is good for a really big battle but after that things get very unwieldly

7 hours later 20522418 IGdood
>>20522217 >>20522346 1 is the default size. 1.5 is the safe size to go to before yari wall breaks down I think.

7 hours later 20522531 Anonymous
>>20522346 >>20522418 K so I set it back to 1, but they're all still the same huge numbers in the custom battle screen.

7 hours later 20522712 IGdood
>>20522531 Might have to use in-game options and set it to Ultra. Or notepad didn't save. I use notepad++

7 hours later 20522817 Anonymous
>>20522712 I use note++ too. Also I tried all the options in the in-game unit size changer and nothing changed.

7 hours later 20522905 Anonymous
>>20522531 are you sure youre looking at the unit sizes or the cost? cause in that pic you posted the cost of the unit was 600 but the unit size of the general was at 60

7 hours later 20522952 Anonymous
>>20522905 Haha yeah fuck me I noticed that, then alt-tabbed and saw you post that.

7 hours later 20522979 Anonymous
>>20514446 PHALANGEETAI

7 hours later 20524014 Anonymous (2012-12-09_00002.jpg 1920x1080 693kB)
>>20522712 So another thing, you were talking about how Yari Ashigaru would break spearwall formation when over 241 unit size, right? I'm at 300 unit size and they didn't break from spearwall once.

7 hours later 20524206 Anonymous
>>20524014 241 was in older games im the guy who started the conversation about increased sizes and right now ive got it set at 2.5, which gives the yari ashigaru a unit size of 500 they won't break up but if it set it at 3 to give a size of 600 they would break up

7 hours later 20524523 Anonymous
>>20524206 Oh alright, cool.

7 hours later 20524626 IGdood
Setting the scale to 2.5 would make FoTS epic as fuck. RoTS would be messy with everyone using loose formation though....

7 hours later 20524734 Anonymous
All right faggots. Attempt to say "Europa Barbarorum" aloud without injuring your tongue.

7 hours later 20524896 IGdood
>>20524734 I need some ice

8 hours later 20527259 Anonymous
>>20524734 I don't get it... On a related note, what does "Quisque est alio Barbaros" (or whatever it says on the loading screens to the mod) actually mean? my guess is "Who is really the barbarian" or something like that, but it's no more than a guess

8 hours later 20527625 Kanga
>>20524734 >>20524734 You're-ope-ah Bar-bear-or-um that was easy

8 hours later 20527754 Kanga
>>20527259 each is another barbarian, i think

8 hours later 20528064 Anonymous
>>20527259 The modders translate it as "everyone is a barbarian to someone". My Latin is rusty and I can't verify it.

8 hours later 20528497 Anonymous
>>20524734 Too easy if your mother tongue is a romace language. >>20524896 >>20527625 Filthy language speakers detected. >bear Oh, lol Jk guys, just having fun with other people's language

8 hours later 20528882 Anonymous
>>20528064 That's an Alex quote, isn't it? >>20528497 It's pretty easy to say IMO. But that's probably just me being wrong

8 hours later 20529124 Anonymous
>>20528882 You won't probably get the right Latin pronunciation but at least it will sound close to Latin, plus you won't twist your tongue

8 hours later 20529283 Anonymous
>>20529124 So what's the latin pronunciation? I got Yer-o-puh barb-are-ore-um

9 hours later 20529638 Anonymous
>>20529283 Who knows. I am not an expert on latin. I don't know how to write the sounds but you say Europa just like in german, except the 'r' which is rolled. The Barbarorum part I don't knwo how to write the sounds but you separete it as Bar-ba-ro-rum

9 hours later 20529730 Anonymous
>>20514446 TRIARII!

9 hours later 20530154 Anonymous
>>20529638 Meh, just thought of it now. Go to google translator and click the "hear" buttom. The latim, spanish, portuguese and a little of the french pronunciations all sound almost the same

9 hours later 20530978 Anonymous
>>20530154 Google's latin can't translate for shit though.

9 hours later 20531468 Anonymous
>Empire Total War >Playing Austrians >Conquer Prussia, Poland early on >Conquer Spain and France later because they declared war on me so why not >Find myself overextended and running out of funds >Suddenly all the neutral city states declare war on me and bring in the British, Dutch, Ottomans, Russians, and Swedes IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN Help what do I do

9 hours later 20531796 Anonymous
>>20531468 Forget your shit cities and consolidate your armies into a rape-train. Then march through their land, killing dudes, but not conquering, while you build up funds and prevent them bringing armies to your lands. Just try not lose any battles. Also, this is probably a really bad idea.

9 hours later 20531825 Anonymous
>>20514446 YESH, SHTRATEGOSH

9 hours later 20532079 IGdood
SPeaking of voice acting, what are the French saying when you click on them in MTW2? It's like.. "Mon Rah?" My "Roi" (king?)

9 hours later 20532716 Anonymous
>>20531825 I still say the guy is saying "Stratty horse"

9 hours later 20532721 Anonymous
>>20532079 Probably "Mon roi."

9 hours later 20532875 Anonymous
>>20532716 In RTW the Greek VAs are all wasted drunk or have tongues the size of feet.

9 hours later 20533026 IGdood
>>20532875 The VAs are Aussies

9 hours later 20533041 Anonymous
>>20532875 So greeks then

10 hours later 20534301 Anonymous
>>20520435 >That quote >Favorite One of these days my general is ACTUALLY going to be in great danger, and I'm going to ignore it. Seriously, if there's a stray arrow flying in the general direction of him that message plays

10 hours later 20534450 Anonymous (2012-07-02_00001.jpg 1440x900 509kB)
C'mon rome, you havent been the same lately man. Step it up buddy.

10 hours later 20534537 Anonymous
>>20534301 I would think you would WANT to know if someone is even looking at your general funny. Unless of course you're a warrior general.

10 hours later 20534556 Anonymous
>>20534450 Somebody take this and add "WELP" to it.

10 hours later 20534815 Anonymous (2012-06-27_00001.jpg 1440x900 477kB)
>Friend and me playing Earth Defense Force >Beat hard level >"'THE DAY IS OWWWWWWWWURRRRRRSSSS!"

10 hours later 20534832 Anonymous
>>20534301 I ignored that screaming quote once. My Daimyo died three seconds later. Every soldier in the entire army was butchered. I lost every territory I had save Kyoto. I held Kyoto for five more turns before I lost the game. I learnt my lesson.

10 hours later 20535428 Anonymous
>>20514446 From R:TW It would have to be: THE DAY IS OOOOUUURSSSSSS From Medieval 2: TW It would have to be: Merchant - "WE'LL ROB THEM BLIND M'LORD" or "FORLORN HOPE" or "ZWEIHANDERS!" or "JA! MEIN KAISER" From Empire/Napolean: TW It would have to be: Anything the British rank and file units say like "They're firing sarge! They're firing!"

10 hours later 20535550 Anonymous
>>20535428 >Anything the British rank and file units say Reminds me of a battle: >zoom in on my dudes waiting for the enemy to get over here >hear a soldier say "I'm scared sarge, I don't want to die out here" >See a cannonball crush the life out of him a few seconds later I didn't know whether to laugh or cry

10 hours later 20535807 IGdood (praise fucking emperor.jpg 1920x1080 435kB)
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11 hours later 20538708 Anonymous
Does anyone else love playing "horde" factions? Austria was best faction in ETW/Nap. Loved the larger, shittier line infantry units.

11 hours later 20538969 Anonymous
>>20538708 im okay with it in games where replenishment is easy but not in med 2 or rome

11 hours later 20539227 Anonymous (1354762551164.png 1280x747 82kB)
>>20491532 >using the general image I made for total war general feels damn good man!

11 hours later 20539431 Anonymous
>>20538969 Fuckin' Shogun 2 replenishment man. So annoying

11 hours later 20539773 Anonymous
>>20535807 Which reminds me, today is a sad day. After much deliberation I decided to uninstall Call of Warhammer. I have tried everything, including Gigantus' patch and quickfixes and STILL the game CTDs right after a scripted double deathstack seige and cannot go past turn 61. Which really pisses me off since I really love those goddammed cannons in that game.

11 hours later 20539775 Anonymous
IGdood any hope you can fix up >>20513307 to the new patch levels?

11 hours later 20539946 IGdood
>>20539775 Perhaps after final exams.... or you can download PackFileManager, extract projectile_tables and modify it yourself

11 hours later 20540296 Anonymous
>>20539946 Every time I try to open that file it locks up and doesn't load anything past the first entry.

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