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2014-03-22 09:16 6429890 Anonymous WHY TOBACCO? (rolling-cigarette-and-tobacco.jpg 1200x801 128kB)
Why was tobacco chosen as the plant to smoke instead all the other millions of plants that exist?

4 min later 6429896 Anonymous
>>6429890 because nicotine is really hard to synthesize biologically

10 min later 6429907 Anonymous
>>6429896 What's so special about nicotine?

10 min later 6429908 Anonymous
assuming we are talking about other drug filled plants (else its fucking obvious already), it's partly because nicotine is one of the few drugs actually able to enhance the overall performance of the brains. another reason is that is was popular in the time of discovery, and people got addicted pretty fast.

20 min later 6429926 Anonymous
>>6429907 It addicts people. You think cigarette business would be as successful as it was if it wasn't for addiction?

21 min later 6429927 Anonymous
>>6429926 yea but it wasnt a business back then. it was a bunch of primitives growing it and smoking it. and it took a lot of work to do so.

22 min later 6429929 Anonymous
>>6429907 Two independent pathways, one which requires methyl transfer

22 min later 6429930 Anonymous
>>6429907 >>6429907 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicoti ne fukin seriously

25 min later 6429935 Anonymous
It's very addictive and was thought to have no ill effects for many years. Now we know the ill effects smoking is slowly dying out in many western countries and is being more restricted in most on where you can smoke.

37 min later 6429943 Anonymous (russian_doc.jpg 332x498 34kB)
>>6429890 Nicotine strengthens the immune system and keeps your brain in good shape (related to acetylcholine). Acetylcholine is the primary neurotransmitter involved with thought, learning, and memory. It sharpens our concentration and perception. .. A lack of choline can produce a decrease in memory. .. It is thought that Alzheimer's disease, which is characterized by severe disturbances in brain function, may be linked to a lack of acetylcholine. (www.childwisdom.org/acetylcholine) www.health-matrix.net/2012/12/15/ni cotine-the-zombie-antidote Read it carefully. You will learn what's wrong with nicotine. The only public workplaces where smoking is still allowed in western countries is the U.S. Congress and the European Parliament. They know that a smoking population is harder to brainwash and that the best slaves are non-smoking vegetarians.

57 min later 6429957 Anonymous
>>6429943 nice post. so why dont people just vaporize tobacco then? to gain the benefits and not the harm

1 hours later 6429971 Anonymous
>>6429957 because people didn't know what organic solvents to use 300 years ago

1 hours later 6429976 Anonymous
>>6429943 >that /pol/-tier link Nice

2 hours later 6430020 Anonymous
>>6429930 Nicotine is special because it has a wikipedia page?

2 hours later 6430027 Anonymous
>>6429943 Boy, am I being red-pilled. Wake up sheeple!

2 hours later 6430058 Anonymous (einstein.jpg 300x400 13kB)
>I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs

2 hours later 6430062 Anonymous (Bertrand_Russel.jpg 351x450 38kB)
The ultimate red pill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80oL TiVW_lc Bertrand Russell was a chain smoker for 70 + years and lived to be 97.

2 hours later 6430068 Anonymous
>>6430020 No, no. You were supposed to READ the Wikipedia page, on which is says that nicotine is a highly addictive psychoactive substance.

2 hours later 6430072 Anonymous (28382.jpg 240x240 44kB)
>>6429957 Ecigging is gaining a rise in popularity, except you're vaporizing oil, not tobacco. You can get a pretty sick nicotine rush depending on the oils you use. However, since it's relatively new, not much is known about the long term effects of vapeing. Still seems safer than inhaling burnt organic matter treated with chemicals.

3 hours later 6430151 Anonymous
If you think about it very deeply, you will realize that no matter what plant we would've chosen to smoke for fun, you would still be asking this same question.

4 hours later 6430168 Anonymous
>>6429943 going to buy my first pack! thanks /pol/!

4 hours later 6430170 Anonymous
>>6430062 woah statistical outlier proves it

4 hours later 6430173 Anonymous
Tobacco in contemporary cigarettes comes there from the minerals used to manufacture fertilizers Tobacco farming in Russells time did not use these fertilizers, so less cancer. How about google and stfu.

4 hours later 6430174 Anonymous
>>6429890 Millions other plants were tried to smoke and tobacco was one of only few to be useful in this case. Btw, I think at first it was chewed or maybe not/

4 hours later 6430202 Anonymous
/sci/, I am proud of you. You could have trolled the OP, and you didn't.

5 hours later 6430224 Anonymous
>>6429890 "The racist war on drugs" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wON AqaxgIoo Tobacco seems like the least harmless because it's the least noticeable effect.

5 hours later 6430237 Anonymous
>>6430224 ...and the trolls appear.

6 hours later 6430304 Anonymous (snuff.gif 184x142 779kB)
>>6429943 damn straight

6 hours later 6430306 Anonymous
>>6430151 your point is?

7 hours later 6430350 Anonymous
>>6430058 JEW!!!!!!

8 hours later 6430361 Anonymous
>>6430306 idiots have allways existed and will exist asking idiotic questions before researching information on their stupid question

8 hours later 6430379 Anonymous
>start camp fire >throw stuff on that you find lying around >people get high off fumes

8 hours later 6430382 Anonymous
>>6430058 Controlled breathing is meditative.

8 hours later 6430387 Anonymous
>>6430020 epic

8 hours later 6430395 Anonymous
>>6430062 smoking saves lives confirmed

8 hours later 6430402 Anonymous
>>6430062 >>6430395 http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/05/w orld/jeanne-calment-world-s-elder-d ies-at-122.html > The French, who celebrated her as the doyenne of humanity, had their own theories about why she lived so long, noting that she used to eat more than two pounds of chocolate a week and treat her skin with olive oil, rode a bicycle until she was 100, and only quit smoking five years ago.

8 hours later 6430410 Anonymous
>>6430224 I always wondered about that. Why do people choose to smoke tobacco? I feel almost nothing when I do. It just seems like an incredibly weak rush if you're not addicted, so why become addicted? It certainly isn't worth even the immediate side effects of bad breath, smelly clothes, and aerobic fitness loss, much less the cost.

9 hours later 6430416 Anonymous
>>6430402 How do you know she isn't just a, possibly genetic, outlier? Isn't the main long-term issue a greatly increased risk of cancer? A higher risk does not imply the undesired outcome materializing in every case.

9 hours later 6430433 Anonymous
>>6430416 Yeah. Smoking doesnt cause life threatening or shortening complications if it doesnt give you lung cancer usually, as I understand it.

9 hours later 6430473 Anonymous
>>6430062 So if I smoke twice as much as him I'll live to 140?

9 hours later 6430491 Anonymous
>>6429935 >smoking is slowly dying out in western countries citation? which western countries? what about all the other countries?

9 hours later 6430492 Anonymous
>>6430473 If you smoke twice as much as him you'll survive twice as many plane crashes.

9 hours later 6430500 Anonymous
>>6430402 >>6430473 Jean did not live to 122. This is a lie. God explicitly said in Genesis that noone is aloud to live past 120 anymore.

9 hours later 6430508 Anonymous
>>6430500 dubs confirm

10 hours later 6430583 Anonymous
My choice to smoke tobacco was because that was what came wrapped in the cigarettes I bought.

10 hours later 6430632 Anonymous
>>6430500 >Jean Jeanne. (Jean is masculine) Women live longer than man according to stats, why?

10 hours later 6430723 Anonymous
>>6430491 http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_sta tistics/tables/trends/cig_smoking/ Not that anon but it is on the decline in the United States. I'm not sure about anywhere else, however. >>6430072 A friend of mine has an e-hookah with some kind of fruity flavoring (he never smoked so he doesn't need the tobacco) and it smells awful. I've had to tell him not to "smoke" it in my house because it leaves my house smelling like that stuff, too. At least people who still need the nicotine fix can get it without all the other harmful stuff in cigarettes and possibly wean themselves with less adverse effects.

10 hours later 6430729 Anonymous
>>6429943 >Nicotine strengthens the immune system Smoking is still extremely shitty for the immune system since it keeps the cilia in the respiratory system from doing their job

10 hours later 6430735 Anonymous
>>6430723 >Doesn't need the tobacco Meant nicotine

10 hours later 6430742 Anonymous
>>6429890 My question isn't why tobacco as much as I just wonder why people thought it would be a cool idea to start smoking things or how they figured out they could smoke things to get some sort of pleasurable effect.

11 hours later 6430760 Anonymous
>>6429943 >That website >A supposed heart surgeon trying to say smoking isn't dangerous

11 hours later 6430762 Old Smaug (smaug.jpg 1614x2000 579kB)
>>6430742 Cause everybody wants to be a dragon.

11 hours later 6430768 Anonymous
>>6430742 My guess is that people have used all kinds of random stuff to fuel their campfires, eventually noticing different psychoactive effects. From there it's merely a process of trial and error.

11 hours later 6430783 Anonymous
>>6430768 >My guess is that people have used all kinds of random stuff to fuel their campfires, eventually noticing different psychoactive effects. That's what I'd been thinking I guess there really isn't much of a way to know for sure since ancient campfire sites aren't the most durable of things.

11 hours later 6430886 Anonymous
>>6430783 1.caveman burn something 2.caveman notice it smell nice 3.caveman burn lots of different things 4.caveman notice he feels good when smelling smoke x 5.caveman make devices to make lots of smoke x 6... 7. profit etc etc

13 hours later 6431106 Anonymous
>>6430886 >caveman make fire in cave >carbon monoxide poisoning

32 hours later 6432499 Nicholas Otine (cyclic-01.png 382x635 47kB)
>>6429929 The only tricky part is the last step. The methylpyrrolinium cation can be obtained from 4-methylaminobutanal, and dihydropiridine can be obtained, for instance, through Hantzch synthesis. Regarding biotechnology routes, the 4 relevant genes have been characterised. There's also a patent for nicotine-producing GMOs, including nicotine-producing Arabidopsis (done in practice, not just theory) and many kinds of unicellullar organism (not sure about nicotine production, but the relevant enzymes have been biosynthesised). We are building a chart of all possible routes for homemade nicotine. Later on we'll get our hands dirty and publish the protocols. Maybe you'd like to contribute? This is our thread: >>6426327

37 hours later 6433084 Anonymous
>>6430072 The components are normally just propylene glycol, and vegetable glycerin (with a dash of nictotine and flavouring). Both of these have been used in asthma and other inhalers for decades. Some would even go so far as to suggest that propylene glycol is actually good for the lungs.

37 hours later 6433086 Anonymous
>>6430170 anecdotal evidence best evidence

38 hours later 6433163 Anonymous
>>6429943 >Vitamin C's Historical and Miraculous Record >Heal Thyself with Homemade Liposomal Vitamin C Into the trash it goes.

38 hours later 6433175 Anonymous
>>6430416 Because people love dopey contrarianism.

45 hours later 6434312 Anonymous
Because someone realized that nicotine makes you feel good. People were also smoking weed too. >>6430729 He's saying that nicotine is actually very good for you, but smoking isn't.

45 hours later 6434338 Anonymous
>>6434312 >He's saying that nicotine is actually very good for you, but smoking isn't. No, he's literally saying that smoking is actually very good for you. And that being a vegetarian makes you more vulnerable to government mind control. These are both things he is saying.

59 hours later 6435580 BioMed
>>6429943 >those links >citations pick one

60 hours later 6435710 Anonymous (gamow_smoking.jpg 500x591 76kB)
Don't Smoke - Unless You Like It It is not that smoking is good for everyone, it rather depends on your genetic profile. People who cannot imagine to ever smoke should follow their instinct and not smoke; they do not need it and it would not suit them. This is totally normal and there's no rational reason to demonize tobacco. And I mean _real_ tobacco, not the industrial poison sold as cigarettes. If you roll your own you do not smoke too much. If you think you've had enough then quit. There are now methods to deliver nicotine other than by smoking tobacco. Consider the following: WHO/CDC Data: All cancers combined account for 13% of all annual deaths and lung cancer for 2%. >What is causing the lung cancer they are attributing to smoking? Mental conditioning and subliminal programming to expect it. People who believe that smoking is detrimental to their health SHOULD NOT SMOKE. Simple as that. google.com/search?q=smoking+is+good +for+you Half of donor lungs come from smokers and the transplant patient are just as likely to survive as those who receive organs from non-smokers. The effect of chronic exposure to tobacco smoke on the antibacterial defenses of the lung. (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/843645 ) ... These studies indicate that chronic exposure to tobacco smoke does not impair, and in fact may stimulate, the host defenses of the lung... Antimicrobial activity of nicotine against a spectrum of bacterial and fungal pathogens (jmm.sgmjournals.org/content/49/7/6 75.full.pdf) .. Nicotine caused a dose-dependent growth inhibition of a broad spectrum of the test organisms, some of which are known pathogens. Gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria were affected equally, along with the acid-fast Mycobacterium phlei and the opportunistic fungi Candida albicans and Cryptococcus neoformans, thereby suggesting a common mechanism of action.

60 hours later 6435727 Anonymous
>>6435710 lel, dat pic. The perfect example of total sobriety and healthy life But what a genius...

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