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2012-11-01 11:09 5214925 Hal-9000 Space is a waste of money (infinity1.jpg 1024x576 78kB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1IgskRN8Qk Please be fucking trolling, please please please SPACE IS NOT A WASTE OF MONEY.

5 min later 5214962 Anonymous
>NASA >only making space shit I hate people

2 hours later 5215426 Anonymous (1325756429695.jpg 456x600 47kB)
>>5214925 Not even gonna bother watching. I don't know whether it's more a case of stupidity or ignorance to just forget about these contributions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies

2 hours later 5215452 Anonymous
>>5214925 lets just flag this out of existance

2 hours later 5215465 Anonymous
But...it is. How does space get me a job? How does space feed the poor or care for the sick? How is space anything but a first world luxury? you kids just need to grow up and realize the real world has bigger problems and we don't have time to fulfill your nerd fantasies.

2 hours later 5215477 Anonymous
>>5214925 wow. No matter what their message is, i hate these people for characterizing their detractors as morons. It completely invalidates anything they might have said.

2 hours later 5215478 Anonymous (1334635193281.gif 500x278 1023kB)
>>5215426 You're not losing much. A couple of people mispronouncing words and using Beavis&Butthead-level quips (uhuhuh UR-ANUS uhuhuh) to make up for lack of a sense of humor. Also the misleading/intentionally ignorant /pol/ shit about there not being any returns from money spent. I'm usually pro-diplomacy and anti-violence but seeing people spread misinformation like this makes me want to take a steel-baseball bat and weld a kilogram of nails to it and go around beating the ignorance out of people like these. >mfw this video

2 hours later 5215492 Anonymous
>>5215426 wow that is a really padded list. I don't see anything there that could not have been invented even if we didn't have a space industry. >powdered lube >remote control oven >a facebook game OMG WE WOULD ALL BE IN TEH STONE AGE WITHOUT THESE MARVELS MORE MONEY TO SPACE NAO!

2 hours later 5215497 Anonymous (1351459241518.jpg 1280x720 310kB)
>>5214925 American Colonization Program = Waste of Money Crossing the Ice-bridge = Waste of Money Moving to Europe = Waste of Money Leaving Africa = Waste of Money Evolving = Waste of Money Existence of Elements Larger than Hydrogen = Waste of Money Hydrogen = Waste of Money Existence = Waste of Money

2 hours later 5215503 Anonymous
>>5215497 you = childish tantrum

2 hours later 5215506 Anonymous
>>5214925 Why did you posted this crap here ? Why did you voluntarely gave it more views ?

2 hours later 5215516 Anonymous
>>5215503 You seem to have misquoted. What is a childish tantrum is the video. >>5215497 is accurate sarcasm

2 hours later 5215517 Anonymous
>>5215506 This sounds more like /pol/ but might be suitable in /sci/. oh and not op

2 hours later 5215520 Anonymous
I don't really care, usa dropping the ball will stimulate the other players, which will in turn stimulate the usa (or not, who cares about your moron-filled nation).

2 hours later 5215524 Anonymous
This video = Waste of Bandwidth

2 hours later 5215527 Anonymous
>>5215497 *American Colonization Program by Spain, France and England

3 hours later 5215626 Anonymous (i_care__by_this_is_the_life2905-d354ulo.jpg 3563x2351 1188kB)
>>5215520

3 hours later 5215678 neckbeard_the_pirate
>Ratings disabled Nope. Just tell me at what point they bring out a crokoduck and a 6000 year old universe.

3 hours later 5215679 Anonymous
>let's complain about the pennies spent on space exploration while ignoring the insane amounts spent on war

3 hours later 5215708 Anonymous
>>5215679 Without war, you would have never gotten Apollo. Choose.

3 hours later 5215722 Anonymous
>>5215708 To be fair, over 50% on multi-Trillion dollar budget is a little extreme, as opposed to the hundred billion we spent on our space program, as they said.

3 hours later 5215737 Anonymous
>>5215722 It costs a lot to keep a whole planet secure. And at least the military provides jobs and shitty healthcare. What does space do? I i sign up for the space corps and get enough money for college? Goddamned art students thinking they know everything about the world because they listen to bill maher and read reddit. The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man attempts to adapt the world to himself.

3 hours later 5215757 Anonymous
>>5215737 The ladder is what man has done for centuries. We have moved all over the Earth for no reason other than stimulation. Tell me: Why did we not simply partition resources in our early years? Why did we move from continent to continent? The very existence of science and society is to adapt man's world to him, while driving the head of exploration and discovery. It is not the Job of the United States to use very little of their troops to police the world. If I remember from my US History Class, Columbus didn't bring back anything of note from his First Voyage, yet America is supposedly considered the pinnacle of the Free World. You're telling me keeping a bunch of Guns in storage is important, while I'm asking you, why should that trump Space exploration? Cutting the military budget by less than 10% would be enough for a functioning Space program.

3 hours later 5215760 Anonymous
>>5215737 But perhaps you recommend an alternative: that Space should be run by the private sector, yes?

4 hours later 5215774 Anonymous
>>5215757 >The ladder is what man has done for centuries. We have moved all over the Earth for no reason other than stimulation. No, we did it for food and other resources. >Why did we not simply partition resources in our early years? No reason to when bashing the other tribe in the head works just as well. >Why did we move from continent to continent? Food and resources or to discriminate against other religions (the pilgrims) >The very existence of science and society is to adapt man's world to him, while driving the head of exploration and discovery. Yep. Which is why we should keep drilling for oil in the antarctic. i couldn't have put it better myself. >It is not the Job of the United States to use very little of their troops to police the world. No, but it does free up the economies of the other countries to do science, which i thought you were for? >If I remember from my US History Class, Columbus didn't bring back anything of note from his First Voyage, yet America is supposedly considered the pinnacle of the Free World. Since when do they talk about columbus in US history? The US didn't exist during columbus's life. >You're telling me keeping a bunch of Guns in storage is important, while I'm asking you, why should that trump Space exploration? Cutting the military budget by less than 10% would be enough for a functioning Space program. Because it's more ludicrous to spend that much money on pandering to childish wish fulfillment because you wish you were born in star trek's universe? Let's fix the problems on earth first.

4 hours later 5215778 Anonymous (selfportrait_iss032_4288.jpg 4288x2848 1279kB)
>>5215737 >i sign up for the space corps and get enough money for college? That's... actually a fantastic idea.

4 hours later 5215779 Anonymous
>>5215760 You ever stop to wonder why almost nobody but eccentric billionaires have invested in space? Protip: it's not because of global conspiracies, it's because the returns for multi-trillion dollar investments are so far out into the future that there is practically no chance of ever seeing a profit in a person's lifetime, and people don't invest that much money in things unless they can reap the returns?

4 hours later 5215783 Anonymous
>>5215737 Also, >implying I have an semblence of artistic talent >implying I got to Reddit >implying your rage over your philosophical dream of a world policed by America isn't showing your autism

4 hours later 5215784 Anonymous
>>5215778 Indeed it is. Too bad it's completely economically unfeasible and none of the skills would transfer back to earth, and when you did get home, you would be stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of your life due to massive bone loss from the microgravity.

4 hours later 5215786 Anonymous
>>5215783 >autism thread over, the a-word has been dropped!

4 hours later 5215789 Anonymous
>>5215783 Oh so you do listen to bill maher, then? Still qualifies you as a dumbass, i'm afraid. Maher is only atheist for the money.

4 hours later 5215794 Anonymous
allmyrage.png I left them a nasty comment about overpopulation and how they should think about the future of the human race instead of bitching about how they can't buy their car with the money they get from making Youtube videos. However, it first has to be approved. Fucking bitch jew nazis probably censor it so that they don't offend their Mormon Republican friends. Fucking jews.

4 hours later 5215800 Anonymous
>>5215794 can't tell if troll or if people who support space are really stupid enough not to notice horrible and obvious sarcasm.

4 hours later 5215803 Anonymous (1351644512360.gif 211x119 989kB)
>tfw seriously considering going into materials engineering/science Space is a waste? Enjoy your creaky transportation.

4 hours later 5215805 Anonymous
>>5215800 Read the comments.

4 hours later 5215807 Anonymous
>>5215803 Enjoy your shitty job that will never in any way be connected to space! unless you're really one of those dumb kids who goes to college thinking "IMMA SPACE ONE DAY!"

4 hours later 5215809 Anonymous
>>5215805 Ah, troll it is. 0/10

4 hours later 5215817 Anonymous
>>5215774 >we moved around for resources >no meed to partition resources, we can just beat the shot out of other tribes instead Am I to assume we chased other humans out of Africa, or there might be, (gasp), more than one possibility OH MY GOD NO >Columbus >Not US History Did they really not teach people about Columbus out of APUSH? >Free up other economies to do science What was that part where you called me a dumbass? >searching for oil in the Arctic How does that take away government funding for space? 7/10 made me respond, had me there for a second

4 hours later 5215818 Anonymous
>>5215809 Yeah, joking.com is a parody video site ...

4 hours later 5215821 Anonymous
>>5215817 *more than one reason

4 hours later 5215822 Anonymous (1343137545362.jpg 219x221 20kB)
>>5215774 But space exploration does help fix problems on earth. It creates jobs, stimulates education (especially STEM fields), produces research and innovation that directly benefits the private sector, and, most importantly, it gives people something to dream about. Space is a uniting, humbling cause that brings humans together more than any war or expanded military budget ever could. If governments really decided to dramatically reduce military spending and focus on important problems such as climate change and world poverty, we would have enough money to both solve our current issues and begin seriously exploring and expanding into space (It isn't as expensive as you may think!). Not to mention things like Hydrogen 3, the abundant minerals in our asteroid belt, and plentiful other resources on the moon, mars, and moons like titan.

4 hours later 5215829 Anonymous (1347494349614.png 400x547 485kB)
>>5215807 >shitty job 60-110k starting, high demand, white collar >never in any way be connected to space Straight from google: >Another application of material science in industry is the making of composite materials. Composite materials are structured materials composed of two or more macroscopic phases. Applications range from structural elements such as steel-reinforced concrete, to the thermally insulative tiles which play a key and integral role in NASA's Space Shuttle thermal protection system which is used to protect the surface of the shuttle from the heat of re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere.

4 hours later 5215846 Anonymous
>>5215829 so every company that makes composites makes space shuttles. wow, you learn something new everyday in stupidkidtown. >>5215822 Yep. Pity that humanity isn't like that and that none of that can ever happen. Keep on dreamin'

4 hours later 5215848 Anonymous
>>5215817 did you forget the context of your own questions?

4 hours later 5215859 Anonymous
>>5215520 well aren't you just 512edgy1024us

4 hours later 5215862 Anonymous
>>5215822 >It creates jobs, stimulates education (especially STEM fields), produces research and innovation that directly benefits the private sector, and, most importantly, it gives people something to dream about. Space is a uniting, humbling cause that brings humans together more than any war or expanded military budget ever could. >meanwhile, in the real world WOAH DUDE DID YOU HEAR SOME GUY FELL FROM SPACE? HE MUST HAVE HUGE BALLS MAN, I COULD NEVER DO THAT YEAH MAN OH THAT WAS NAR NAR BRAH SPONSORED BY RED BULL BRAH

4 hours later 5215863 Anonymous
>>5215848 7/10, take it or leave it.

4 hours later 5215869 Anonymous
>>5215863 you're trolling and simultaneously wondering why humanity hasn't gone back to space in 60 years? You're the reason.

4 hours later 5215870 Anonymous
>>5215477 They characterize both sides as idiots. I think they're just trying to be funny. They're not, though, just grating.

4 hours later 5215872 Anonymous
I'm actually doing a short persuasive speech on this tomorrow but haven't started writing it yet. Topic: Why space research and exploration are NOT a waste of resources. Any suggestions on what specifics I should include?

4 hours later 5215875 Anonymous
>>5215872 Lies. You'll have to make it all lies. And you're going to bore the shit out of the entire class. Just a heads up. Oh and be sure to say something like "we are the 99% and this time we want space!" that'll perk up the social science rejects.

4 hours later 5215903 Anonymous (1274473612148.jpg 400x302 60kB)
>>5215846 You said "in any way". Joke's on you, pal.

4 hours later 5215905 Anonymous
>>5215872 Read this: http://www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/read/2006/11/01/delusions-of-space-enthusiasts

4 hours later 5215909 Anonymous
>>5215903 Well i contribute more to the space program by paying taxes than you will in your job.

4 hours later 5215919 Anonymous (1252993159564.png 191x234 7kB)
>>5215909 Does this mean I don't have to pay income taxes? Sweet!

4 hours later 5215953 Anonymous
>>5215919 >vote no on school funding! >this is bullshit why don't we have space travel yet!? humans...

5 hours later 5215993 Anonymous
>>5215905 This was both awesome and humbling. And only made my man-boner for the NDT grow larger.

5 hours later 5216069 Anonymous
>>5215708 >implying going to war is the only way humans would of been able to create space technology

5 hours later 5216090 Anonymous
>>5216069 We haven't been out of LEO in sixty years. That's not implying, that's fact. An assassinated president's mandate put us on the moon. If any other forces exist to put us back, where have they been these last 6 decades?

5 hours later 5216095 Anonymous
>that cleavage really now?

5 hours later 5216099 Anonymous
>>5215909 >implying his job wont pay income taxes as well as contributing directly

6 hours later 5216215 Anonymous
>Joking.com >Obvious parody >50+ replies Dammit /sci/

6 hours later 5216271 aaa144 Another great video from Joking.com!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2x90YT-1r4

6 hours later 5216287 Anonymous
>>5215492 >I don't see anything there that could not have been invented even if we didn't have a space industry. That's irrelevant. The fact is that NASA has funded tons of research and practical applications, so it hasn't been a 'waste of money'.

6 hours later 5216290 Anonymous
you can say they joke all you want but everything they said is true. going to space is a nerd dream and a waste of money with no benefits.

7 hours later 5216306 Anonymous
>>5216290 A man may tell the full truth in jest - Geoffry Chaucer

15 hours later 5217040 BoltOfThunder
>>5215737 People who go out into space are, for the most part, trained professionals. So you can sock it if your not smart enough for space exploration.

15 hours later 5217055 BoltOfThunder
>>5215774 You won't fix those problems by wasting trillions of dollars. (Lets not forget the missing budget whose records were blown sky high on 9/11) For the money that is spent on bombing random civilians on the other side of the earth you could start teraforming Mars for a better tomorrow. And than send all the smart, cool people there. }:P

15 hours later 5217059 Anonymous
>>5215774 UGUGUGUH NO CAVEMAN, YOU CAN'T SPEND ALL DAY TRYNIG TO MAKE FIRE WE HAVE MOUTHS TO FEED, YOU CAN DO RESEARCH WHEN FOOD IS NOT SCARCITY ANYMORE Fuck you and all your family, your teachers and your state.

15 hours later 5217072 Anonymous
>>5216090 Fusion power has been under development, and with ever-reducing space exploration costs it's not useful to colonize the moon until after fusion reactors work. Minerals exist in enough plenty that asteroid mining was also too expensive to be profitable. The lust for exploration is naturally strongest with the politically and economically impotent.

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