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2013-10-20 04:50 9176745 Anonymous (1.jpg 576x1024 65kB)
I don't get marriage. Can someone explain marriage to me and why people still do it? Also in most divorces why does the woman keep the children and get half the money? Lastly, if some hot guy like Chad started flirting with your wife, I bet 9/10 she would have an affair, same thing with the husband. I just don't get it, I don't believe people can be loyal to one another. It seems like a fairytale

4 min later 9176774 Anonymous
>>9176745 Marriage isn't what it used to be. Now it's a retarded idea and you should never get married. And women ruined it. Like everything else

6 min later 9176793 Anonymous
>>9176774 Thanks for contributing but you didn't really contribute to anything at all. How did women ruin it, what are the differences between marriages from now and back then, why is it retarded?

9 min later 9176817 Anonymous
Outside of the hallow internet, marriage is a time-honored tradition that represents forward progress in the upright man or woman's life. The act of finding a marriage partner represents maturity to the eyes of others when done at the right time, and finding a respectable partner reflects endlessly on the quality of the given person, too, in the eyes of those same others. Essentially then, marriage is nothing more than a symbol of success in the eyes of those that matter. The other purpose marriage serves is to continue perpetuating this time-honored tradition into the minds of children, who will grow up viewing marriage as the norm and eventually pursue it themselves given it's what they've known. And this is good, because the nuclear family is the bedrock of the virtuous city.

11 min later 9176826 Anonymous
I could go full-mormon on your butts and tell you about how important marriage is. Then again nobody would listen anyways..

11 min later 9176835 Anonymous
>>9176745 Marriage use to be about stability. Now it is about happiness. You know how transient happiness is, right?

13 min later 9176846 Anonymous
>>9176826 Please go on, my Mormon friend. I would find it interesting

15 min later 9176867 Anonymous
Marriage now is really more of this idea of treating a woman like a fairy princess for a day. It's pretty much a sweet sixteen for adults. There are some benefits, but at this point I really don't think they outweigh being unmarried.

16 min later 9176872 Anonymous
>>9176817 I'd say it's less to look successful in the eyes of others that people get married. Truthfully I always assumed people did it now for the larger tax breaks you get for being married. However, I have no idea how that stacks up to how poor people have manipulated the welfare system. By not being not being married a couple can effectively leech off the system - the "single" moms get all benefits (food stamps, health care, etc) while the man doesn't have to pay for a wife and kids on his insurance. Plus depending on how they file their taxes I'm sure they get a decent sum back.

16 min later 9176876 Anonymous
>Can someone explain marriage to me and why people still do it? Marriage is an old relic that at one point was the backbone of society. You got married, had kids, and helped keep society going. Now its more of an expensive display of affection for your current lover. You do it to show how much you love them right now. And there are some tax benefits to it over just living together. >Also in most divorces why does the woman keep the children and get half the money? Carryover from the past. When women didn't typically work outside the home and had limited career choices , the only way she could survive was if she still had access to her husbands money. And as women were seen as the ones raising the children, she would get custody of them.

17 min later 9176880 Anonymous
>>9176872 I don't know a single person who wants to get married because of tax breaks.

18 min later 9176888 Anonymous
Never EVER get married in the states. You will lose half of your money for the rest of your fucking life even if you actually didn't do anything, if your wife wants it.

18 min later 9176889 Anonymous
The only up side of marriage now is that you're next of kin to your partner as are they to you. If you were not married, if one of you were to die or something, the property and all belongings will go to a parent or, if there are any, children. The rest of it is meaningless religious bullshit and symbolism. If you're going to get married, make sure you get a prenup so that your partner doesn't divorce you and take all your shit.

19 min later 9176892 Anonymous
>>9176745 >Can someone explain marriage to me and why people still do it? Greencards you dont really think that your mail order Ukrainian bride actually loves you...do you?

21 min later 9176907 Anonymous
>>9176889 >he thinks the judge you get won't be female, divorced, and bitter against males >he thinks that prenups can't be thrown out by a judge upper kek

21 min later 9176909 Anonymous
>>9176846 Marriage is a part of your Heavenly Father's plan. You're doing it to be sealed to your partner (and future children) for eternity, not only on earth but also in the Celestial Kingdom (also you can't achieve the highest degree of holiness without getting sealed in the temple). Also even with Mormons marrying really young we still got the lowest divorce rate in all of religious group in the US.

22 min later 9176915 Anonymous
I'm married and willing to answer any of your questions, op.

23 min later 9176920 Anonymous
>>9176889 >prenup Isn't that for rich people only

23 min later 9176928 Anonymous
>>9176907 Prenups are only thrown out if you don't do them properly. You just have to be careful when you make it and make sure you do it right.

23 min later 9176929 Anonymous
>>9176909 >lowest divorce rate im pretty sure Hindus got you guys beat on that, or are you talking about religions native to the U.S?

24 min later 9176934 Anonymous
>>9176920 regular people can also get half their money taken. Getting a lawyer to write up a prenup might cost you a thousand bucks, but it's a cheap insurance compared to what you MIGHT lose.

24 min later 9176935 Anonymous
>>9176915 well can you answer the questions or can you respond to the statement I've posted in my original post

24 min later 9176937 Anonymous
>>9176920 or for people who don't want all their shit to be taken

25 min later 9176944 Anonymous
>>9176915 Not OP, but would be willing to answer mine? How long have you been married, how long had you been together with your partner before marriage, and how much did the cermony cost?

26 min later 9176949 Anonymous
>>9176929 To tell you the truth I don't know about Hindus, but I'm sure that either way our divorce rate is one of the lowest.

29 min later 9176969 Anonymous
>>9176928 >You just have to be careful when you make it and make sure you do it right. And if you leave any small opening, or if the judge rules the terms of the it "unreasonable", you're fucked. There is no 100% guaranteed method of not getting ruined by divorce except to not get married in the first place.

32 min later 9176982 Anonymous
>tfw my older brother got married at 28, he's 30 now. Idk they seem happy, but I'm kind of worried. He makes about 80k a year as an electrical engineer and his wife makes about 40k as a music teacher

32 min later 9176984 Anonymous
>>9176915 Okay. >Can someone explain marriage to me and why people still do it? In my wife's case and I, we were on a road trip. We stopped in a McDonald's in Illinois about four in the morning after some car sex. I got the idea right then, picked up a second Big Mac and proposed with it. She said yes. We signed our marriage certificate about a month later. Can't really tell you what prompted me to do it. No one even knew until she started using my last name. >Also in most divorces why does the woman keep the children and get half the money? Dunno, mate, I'm not divorced. >>9176944 Sure, >How long have you been married? Year and a half now. >how long had you been together with your partner before marriage? Four years. She's a couple of years younger than me and she just started uni when we started dating. >and how much did the cermony cost? Thirty for the marriage papers, and eighteen bucks for pizza and gelato afterward.

34 min later 9177003 Anonymous
>>9176984 op here thanks How about >Lastly, if some hot guy like Chad started flirting with your wife, I bet 9/10 she would have an affair, same thing with the husband. I just don't get it, I don't believe people can be loyal to one another. It seems like a fairytale What do you have to say about that

34 min later 9177004 Anonymous
>>9176928 i believe i read an article about a yank lawyer who listed what you had to do to make a pre-nup stick in court. -Have the wife sign it at LEAST 3 months before the actual wedding. -Have her own lawyer explain the terms to her clearly -Have her and her lawyer go to your lawyers office when you are not there and have your lawyer explain it all clearly until she is satisfied. -There can be no sign whatsoever of you putting pressure on her to sign it, she has to be as willing to do it as you do and not see it as a big deal. If you think you can pull THAT off, good luck.

36 min later 9177014 Anonymous
>>9176880 I know someone who got married for the tax breaks, to say the least their marriage is miserable. My friend seems to think his prenup will save them as the word divorce seems to keep popping up. Mind you it's not like there is much she can take, but he's seems to think it's impossible for it to be thrown out. Most people I know got married to girls they barely knew once they joined the military.

38 min later 9177035 Anonymous
>>9177003 >Lastly, if some hot guy like Chad started flirting with your wife, I bet 9/10 she would have an affair, same thing with the husband. I just don't get it, I don't believe people can be loyal to one another. It seems like a fairytale I don't doubt it in general, but thinking about my wife in that situation it just doesn't seem even remotely possible.

41 min later 9177059 Anonymous
>>9176793 This guy knows what's up >>9176774 is shitposting

48 min later 9177086 Anonymous (Judges.jpg 673x720 105kB)
>>9176745 > why does the woman keep the children and get half the money? Because the issuers of currency want to own their slaves entirely: permitting no clans, tribes, or houses to form, dealing with each slave directly so they've no support network to compete with.

51 min later 9177110 Anonymous
It's like Christmas, a day built around religion before everyone started doing it. Now it serves no purpose other than "just what you do". I have a second cousin who has been his girl for like 14 years now and they said they wouldn't marry because it does nothing but waste money and add unneeded stress to the relationship. >Lastly, if some hot guy like Chad started flirting with your wife, I bet 9/10 she would have an affair, same thing with the husband. I just don't get it, I don't believe people can be loyal to one another. It seems like a fairytale >tfw grandparents are the only couple in your family who haven't cheated or been cheated on. (well, my one aunt and uncle are fine, but she's a functioning alcoholic; haven't ever seen her without a glass of white wine.

52 min later 9177112 Anonymous
>>9176793 back then women married and stayed loyal to her husband, working at home and always looking out for her kids.

57 min later 9177137 Anonymous
Married guy here. I'll give you some of my personal perspective of why I did it. 1) Parents were married. I had a great childhood, we had money for stuff, and having a mom and a dad who are around makes your childhood awesome. 2) I dated my g/f for four (4) years before marrying her. At a certain point, I felt like I needed to actually commit to her. It's a very different thing to be "long term bf or gf" and being married. Marriage implies a much greater commitment to me. 3) Having a wife is a significantly different feeling than having a g/f. It means they've committed to you, both legally and emotionally. 4) I wanted to have a family, and a real family is a married one with a mom and a dad. There are too many fucked up kids who don't have both parents, or have 2 dads or some bullshit like that. So yeah, call me a traditionalist, but being married is one of the best things that's ever happened to me. Granted, I accept the possibility that it might go wrong or end in divorce, but I'm not going to live my life by assuming the worst will happen. Besides, I recommend dating/cohabitating with the chick you want to marry for quite some time before making the proposal. You need to truly know who they are as a person before taking the risk of marriage.

58 min later 9177143 Anonymous
>>9177004 Why do you have to make it stick up in court? I thought with a prenup she signs it and this disqualifies her from taking your shit? What's the point in even signing one if it does not work?

59 min later 9177157 Anonymous
>>9177143 because if a prenup is too "lopsided", e.g. unfair judges can invalidate it

59 min later 9177160 Anonymous
>>9177137 >four (4) Thanks I didn't realize four meant 4

1 hours later 9177174 Anonymous
>>9177157 So in theory she can cheat on you, you file for divorce, she's already signed a prenup but now can take half my shit? nice. Is this only an American thing or is this how prenups work all over?

1 hours later 9177189 Anonymous
>>9177174 It depends a lot on the state you're in, the judge, etc. Some states are no-fault states, where your wife can cheat on your with Chad and you still get fucked. It's good to look up the marriage/family laws of where you live before making the plunge. Or, you could do it like me and simply find a woman you can trust, and not live in paranoia. IMO, having a prenup implies a lack of trust from the get-go. It's like having your future wife sign a document that assumes she will fuck you over or cheat on you. How does that inspire trust? Especially when the prenup can just get thrown out by the judge.

1 hours later 9177194 Anonymous (IllinoisDivorceDood Full.png 1231x4464 420kB)
A divorce lawyer was on about a week ago I think, I saved some of his more interesting bits. According to this guy, the reason women usually get the kids and half the money is because the kids usually go to the parent who stays home with them, which is usually the woman, and marital assets including money are divided more or less equally. I can't say why people get married to begin with, though. Cheaper taxes maybe, and probably for things like visitation rights and power of attorney if something happens. It's also just what everyone else does.

1 hours later 9177203 Anonymous
>>9177189 Yes I don't think I could ask a woman to sign a prenup, it's an implied distrust. I'm just fascinated that they seem to not work. >implying I will ever find a woman to marry

1 hours later 9177225 Anonymous
>>9177203 I think a lot of robots and people in general don't understand the whole process leading up to marriage. I never, not in a million years, thought I would marry the woman who is now my wife when I first met her. It took several years of dating, and a lot of ups, downs and adventures to figure out that she was the best chick I've ever met and I'd be a fool if I didn't keep her around. You don't know that right away, nor should you. A smart guy will keep a girl around for quite a while to find out who she really is before marrying her. During that process, you should become pretty certain of whether or not she's trustworthy. That basic legwork removes the need for a prenup. Prenups are basically for rich guys who care about money more than their wife, or for guys who are rushing into a marriage and don't actually trust their wife.

1 hours later 9177270 Anonymous
>>9177194 Personally I think it's retarded that a woman can keep getting alimony even if she gets a job after divorce. I mean what the fuck

1 hours later 9177282 Anonymous
>>9177137 >There are too many fucked up kids who don't have both parents, or have 2 dads or some bullshit like that. you are the worst kind of person

1 hours later 9177350 Anonymous
>>9177282 I think he meant the fact that parents divorce and find another guy. Like I had two moms, my mom and my step mom. He did word it a bit weird.

2 hours later 9177863 Anonymous
>>9177270 Unless it's a long-term marriage (over ten years) which are becoming less and less common, alimony usually only lasts half of the marriage, so if you were married for six years alimony would be paid for three. It's a transition period, even if you are employed you might not be used to making ends meet without your spouse's income. And technically it's paid from higher earner to lower earner, in most cases the husband is the one making more money, but not always.

3 hours later 9178422 Anonymous
>>9177863 god women are such worthless leeches

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