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2013-10-06 11:59 9005878 Anonymous (punished.jpg 1936x2592 342kB)
any collegefags here? how many times a day do you fap?

1 min later 9005891 Anonymous
three times a day

1 min later 9005893 Anonymous
like twice usually in the evening as there is little else to do

2 min later 9005908 Anonymous
>>9005878 >not fapping at least 3 times a day

3 min later 9005910 Anonymous
>>9005893 Not OP, but do you experience any mental or physical fatigue?

4 min later 9005935 Anonymous
I am attempting for the third or fourth time to break my addiction to porn and masturbation. I'm doing okay, I broke once in the last 7 days, gonna try to make it one whole month without breaking once, but shit is hard, I've definitely fucked up my brain by fapping multiple times a day ever since I was 11...

5 min later 9005954 Anonymous
>>9005935 Every time I try to break off fapping I go on a harder binge

8 min later 9005978 Anonymous
>>9005954 This was the first time where when I finally broke I only fapped once, instead of like 5 times. I want to say that is progress.

8 min later 9005987 Anonymous
>>9005935 God this is hard. How can simply not fapping be so hard? Is there anything you can do to make it easier?

10 min later 9006015 Anonymous
>>9005978 I caved in after 20 days, 2nd time fapping right now I can't even think of being sad or upset, I'm just too horny

13 min later 9006053 Anonymous
0. I'm too paranoid that my neighbours will hear me or something.

15 min later 9006066 Anonymous (tumblr_msy3xg90wA1rbh7rfo2_1280.jpg 1280x1735 744kB)
eh twice a day I raise you an ass pic >>9006053 >caring what your neighbors think

15 min later 9006068 Anonymous
>>9005987 I've found a few things that are starting to help me make progress towards quitting First off, i downloaded a Firefox addon called LeechBlock, which allows you to set limits on which sites you can and can't visit, and when. I also use it to limit my access to shit like facebook, 4chan, and reddit during the week so I actually do my assignments. I initially blocked all of the porn sites I could think of, but wound up using the nsfw boards on 4chan so now I've blocked those too. I also have a piece of paper on my desk and I make a tally of every time I get the urge to look at porn or masturbate. This helps me visualize my addiction as well as (hopefully) see progress over time. I still find myself touching my dick as soon as I open up the internet, which is so fucking weird, I've got such a hard-wired connection between my computer and porn, I wouldn't be surprised if I start getting aroused just by pressing the power button pretty soon...

15 min later 9006077 Anonymous
>>9005910 sure but i have depression and am on medication

17 min later 9006086 Anonymous
>fapping in college just go fuck someone damn

18 min later 9006108 Anonymous
>>9006086 I wish I could punch you, seriously.

19 min later 9006117 Anonymous
>>9006077 I have depression also but I don't take meds things go well the first week or two no fap, but then life starts to bog you down with sexual frustration(if you're alone) and you irritated real easily I have no real balance so I bust one once or twice a day

21 min later 9006150 Anonymous
>>9006086 this. It's so fucking easy. Went out and all my friends told me about a girl looking for a one night stand. Went up to her, talked for 5mins then pulls my hair and kisses me. Ended up in bed with her. Unless you're looking for a relationship then uhm..

21 min later 9006155 Anonymous
>>9006068 Nice. I use chrome though. Might run into trouble unless there is a similar way add-on for it.

22 min later 9006160 Anonymous
>>9006117 not OP, but also on antidepressants. Just FYI, those fuckers majorly reduce your libido, which coupled with the reduction of depression symptoms can really motivate you to quit fapping, if that is something that is at all important to you. If not, I still recommend the meds, they fucking help. I'm sure if you find a decent therapist they can help too, but most of them are batshit insane and don't help for shit. That is of course just my personal experience

23 min later 9006180 Anonymous
>>9006150 Most of us don't roll with one night stands, we want some decency and class in our lives not some free whore

24 min later 9006194 Anonymous
>>9006180 Then get ready to hit that Master Wizard rank my firend

24 min later 9006196 Anonymous
once or twice a week.. used to jerk it off once a day when i was in puberty.

24 min later 9006199 Anonymous
>>9006068 I wouldn't recommend you to completely quit fapping. Just reduce it to 1x a day at first and then maybe 1-2 times a week.

25 min later 9006214 Anonymous
>>9006150 I think your next move should be this: Go to a physically handicapped person, and say: >Dude, walking is fucking easy. Enjoy his face, because I can't show you mine.

25 min later 9006216 Anonymous
>>9006180 Most of us would die just to stick their penis once into a vagina.

26 min later 9006220 Anonymous
usually about 6 times

26 min later 9006224 Anonymous
>2-3 times on a weekday today 6 or 7 times. just had the urge.

27 min later 9006239 Anonymous
>>9006150 >kisses a whore U dun goofd

28 min later 9006248 Anonymous
I usually fap 1-2 a day. In the morning in the shower and at night before sleep. Sometimes if I'm extremely bored I fap about 5-8 a day. I guess that's not normal, but I don't give a shit, as long as I don't have any problems getting a boner.

28 min later 9006251 Anonymous
>>9006214 We'll clearly you have the wrong mind set if you come up with comparisons like these. Tell me the last time you tried, and how you done it. There is a beast for every monster out there.

28 min later 9006265 Anonymous
>>9006216 That's no different from masturbation, you would want to have someone who actually cares and loves you

29 min later 9006267 Anonymous
>>9006239 >got his only kiss from his mom U wizard yet ?

29 min later 9006269 Anonymous
>>9006199 Most studies on habit and addiction show that the best way to rewire your brain is to avoid the habit or addiction for at least one month. this is the minimum amount of time for most people's brains to adjust to life without the vice, go shorter than that and chances are the changes have not been cemented in your brain and you are much more likely to fall back into your old routine. After that time period you can reintroduce a more moderate practice of the habit, but I would like to make it a month at least and see how I feel then. If I am lucky the urge to jack off to porn will be gone entirely, or at least largely diminished.

30 min later 9006276 Anonymous
>>9006199 once a day? That's what I do now. I thought I actually had a problem but maybe not.

30 min later 9006279 Anonymous
>>9006265 >That's no different from masturbation confirmed for virgin >you would want to have someone who actually cares and loves you no, I want to stick my dick into a cunt.

30 min later 9006284 Anonymous
>>9006265 you've obviously never had sex if you think that a one night stand is no different than masturbation.

30 min later 9006289 Anonymous
>>9006248 How's your memory like in school and in general, any problems?

33 min later 9006317 Anonymous
I have inattentive adhd (as opposed to hyperactive) which means that I usually a) don't have the motivation to do anything active and b) can't pay attention to anything indoors for very long. As such, without my medication I tend to spend most of my time either eating, fapping, or drinking just because they're effortless ways to enjoy myself and I can't do anything that requires mental effort for more than 30 minutes or so. If I consistently take my adhd meds, then I'll fap like once a week, which is ideal. If I skip a few days, then I'll usually revert back to my old ways where I fap at least once a night. This usually elevates to 2-3 times a day if I'm really stressed out. All this being the case, I know that I definitely behave and think differently when I don't fap often, and find myself more motivated, but I can't tell if that's because of taking my meds more of because of the fapping.

34 min later 9006335 Anonymous
>>9006276 nah, fapping isn't damaging or anything. But there are people that simply have problems getting an erection because they are used to fap very often and need harder and harder stuff to make their dicks hard. You can easily test this by fapping to your favorite porn, cumming, taking a 10-15 minutes break and then trying to make your dick hard, just by pretending. No porn, just your imagination. If you can do that, you don't have a problem.

35 min later 9006352 Anonymous
>>9006269 But why do you even want to quit ? It's not like your balls will explode if you don't stop fapping.

36 min later 9006359 Anonymous (thumbtascky.jpg 800x600 61kB)
>>9006317 Shit, are you me? it might be the fapping or head playing guilt trips on me, been experimenting.

36 min later 9006365 Anonymous
>>9006251 I'm too downhearted to talk about that now, but I do appreciate your concern. Thank you.

38 min later 9006394 Anonymous
>taking medicine that makes skin really dry regardless of anything >can't fap more than once a day Hold me, robots

39 min later 9006400 Anonymous
>>9006335 >fapping isn't damaging or anything. Porn on the other hand...

41 min later 9006435 Anonymous
>>9006352 Porn addiction, like addiction to heroin, meth, video games, food, etc. causes changes in the reward circuit of your brain (the part of your brain that makes you feel good, by releasing the neurochemical dopamine when you do something) and makes you dependent on your addiction in order to stimulate a release of dopamine. This changes your perspective, as nothing makes you feel quite as good as your addiction. With porn addiction, this means that real women, although much more desirable, are less arousing, and a lot of guys are developing porn-induced ED. I didn't realize I had a problem until I got a girlfriend and I wasn't able to get off. In addition, when you stop masturbating your levels of testosterone increase, which makes you more confident, is great for making gains in the gym, and makes you more appealing to women. So no, my balls wont explode, but my life will be better if I can stop fapping.

43 min later 9006461 Anonymous
>>9005878 On effexor now, down to 2x or 3x a week since it takes 45 minutes of extreme throat fucking inner racial cuckold stuff to get my tiny stinky cock half hard and fire off a teaspoon of its pathetic watery load =/

44 min later 9006470 Anonymous
>>9006359 What's up with that pic? Sauce?

44 min later 9006476 Anonymous
>>9006359 >thumbtascky Always found that picture hot as fuck and wish there was more.

45 min later 9006486 Anonymous
>>9006435 Alright then, seems like you have a real problem, good luck, friend.

46 min later 9006502 Anonymous
>>9006435 So by this logic, having sex on a regular basis is just as bad, no? In fact, it sounds like almost ANY enjoyable hobby that you do on a regular basis, on the grounds that it causes your brain to release dopamine, is going to increase that "enjoyment threshold" and make your life less enjoyable, am I wrong?

46 min later 9006511 Anonymous
>>9006470 only one I seen, shit is hawt

47 min later 9006517 Anonymous (1375451570939.gif 160x130 1614kB)
>>9006086 >this is how anon made me feel mom

50 min later 9006560 Anonymous
>>9006502 having sex actually BOOSTS testosterone, while lowering cortisol (the stress hormone) the reward circuit evolved in our brains to keep us alive. We need to eat food, drink water, and fuck to carry on our species. The reward circuit provided positive feedback for doing these things and things that helped accomplish these goals, increasing the likelihood that we would repeat those actions. When the things we do are in line with our basic survival needs, the reward circuit is in balance. It is only when we do things to artificially stimulate the release of dopamine, through drugs, porn, over-eating, etc that the system becomes unbalanced and addiction develops. So, short answer, no.

50 min later 9006561 Anonymous
>>9006502 I'd say that it's working towards what you desire what causes the best good feel. Porn and sugary goods and drugs offer instant good feel but in the long run you will want more and more while eating healthy and working to get what you want will make you feel much better and the feeling will last longer. Or that's how I see it.

55 min later 9006622 Anonymous
>>9006560 Do you have any sources for that assertion that doesn't come from that one anti-porn website? It's not that I don't believe you, I just have trouble believing that our brain can consistently tell the difference between a hand and a vagina, when the penis is getting stimulated very similarly in each case, and giving the brain the same types of pleasure.

59 min later 9006673 Anonymous
>>9006622 It isn't about telling the difference between a hand and a vagina. It is about telling the difference between a hand a living, breathing woman with thoughts, emotions, and feelings. There is no better feeling on Earth than making a woman you care about have an orgasm. THAT is what is different about sex and masturbation, intimacy with another human being, not how it feels on your cock. I'll look for some citations but this should just make sense logically.

1 hours later 9006687 male feminist
>>9006622 >our brain can consistently tell the difference between a hand and a vagina Look at your hand. Look at a vagina. Can you tell the difference? There. Your brain can quite consistently tell the difference. Okay, that doesn't sound like the question you were trying to ask, wasn't it? But, it's the right answer. Orgasm may be orgasm, but that doesn't mean everything around it isn't the same. Think of it like this: don't you think your brain can tell the difference between having very satisfying sex with a person you love, and being raped until a forced orgasm? It's both orgasms, but the adaption process, partially modulated indeed by the "reward circuit" (including the mesencephalic dopamine system) will be completely different. Of course, on the other hand, this post >>9006560 is completely stupid and doesn't make any sense, and "nofap b/c dopamine" and "virgins pair bond with Chad after their hymen gets broken" are pseudoscience for stupid people who like to see their biases confirmed by technobabble.

1 hours later 9006703 male feminist
>>9006673 >I'll look for some citations but this should just make sense logically. Thinking like this is the best way to never actually see the world, but only your prejudices.

1 hours later 9006731 Anonymous
>>9006703 >implying I'm not actually re-researching this whole topic right now to make sure my facts are straight >implying anyone should take the word of anything said on an anonymous message board without doing their own research if you believe me and i am wrong, that is your fault, not mine.

1 hours later 9006738 Anonymous
>>9006251 I'll tell you about mine > meet girl >chat about life, get her attention talking about crazy shit that happened to me > meet her again a few weeks later > hang out with her, smoke and make out, can't get any further > doesn't speak to me for a week > see her and her friends at a party, friends tell me that she isn't interested in me anymore > meet new girl > rinse and repeat > this has been my life for the past 4 years, 18 year old virgin in a school with a high girl/low guy ratio If you want to hear, I can tell you another one

1 hours later 9006745 male feminist
>>9006731 If you're wrong, and you are, that's your problem, not mine.

1 hours later 9006766 Anonymous
>>9006745 thanks for calling me out on my lack of citations without actually citing anything yourself. you've totally changed my mind by providing actual evidence to the contrary of any of my statements

1 hours later 9006788 male feminist
>>9006766 You haven't asked any questions. You haven't doubted anything I've said. All you've said is "I'll look for some citations but this should just make sense logically", and that's a pretty fucking idiotic thing to say.

1 hours later 9006790 Anonymous
>>9006673 I'll stop you right there because what you're claiming cannot be scientifically proven. Abstinence (from all sexual release) does increase testosterone levels significantly, though. Mine, personally, went from 940 to 1220 in a month and stayed there.

1 hours later 9006794 Anonymous
>>9005878 Currently living in a dorm with three normalfags (two of them party bros). I fapped about 6 times last week, and I think I have had my fill, especially since I fap in public restrooms so I dont take up my dorm bathroom for too long.

1 hours later 9006795 Anonymous
>>9006738 >If you want to hear, I can tell you another one go for it im all ears

1 hours later 9006811 Anonymous
I fap once every three days or so, put my cum paper towel in a garbage can and close the lid in my room. It's been nearly two months and haven't dumped it, is that too long?

1 hours later 9006826 Anonymous
>>9006687 Of course your brain can tell the difference between sex and fapping in the sense that it's more enjoyable and satisfying. My point was completely directed towards the very post that you yourself denounced, and I was questioning the notion that fapping every day and having sex every day are going to affect your brain differently on a subconscious, mechanical and physical level. In other words, your post proved that there's an emotional difference that you can perceive, but I'm still skeptical as to whether or not there's a physical difference as far as your brain is concerned, if that makes sense.

1 hours later 9006846 Anonymous
>>9006435 >Porn addiction, like addiction to heroin, meth, video games, food, etc. causes changes in the reward circuit of your brain (the part of your brain that makes you feel good, by releasing the neurochemical dopamine when you do something) and makes you dependent on your addiction in order to stimulate a release of dopamine. This changes your perspective, as nothing makes you feel quite as good as your addiction. With porn addiction, this means that real women, although much more desirable, are less arousing, and a lot of guys are developing porn-induced ED. I didn't realize I had a problem until I got a girlfriend and I wasn't able to get off. This is true >In addition, when you stop masturbating your levels of testosterone increase, which makes you more confident, is great for making gains in the gym, and makes you more appealing to women. This is a placebo effect at best.

1 hours later 9006863 Anonymous
>>9006788 >You haven't doubted anything I've said. what in the fuck are you talking about? I doubt just about everything you've said so far. And if my last post wasn't an opportunity for you to post any proof of your own statements, I don't know what is. >>9006790 Sorry, I missed my bad phrasing. I meant that I would look for citations regarding the neurochemistry of sex vs masturbation, not that making a woman orgasm feels good. Still looking. >>9006846 >This is a placebo effect at best. Prove it.

1 hours later 9006886 Anonymous
>>9006863 I'd like to recant my response to that last post since the burden of proof falls to me to prove that it is more than placebo effect, not to you to prove that it is.

1 hours later 9006909 male feminist
>>9006826 >I was questioning the notion that fapping every day and having sex every day are going to affect your brain differently on a subconscious, mechanical and physical level. Don't. It certainly is. Think about it simply from the perspective of self esteem: which one will you be more proud of? And being proud of yourself versus not being proud of yourself will change your brain. Consider also that social interactions change your brain, and non-social activities also change your brain in a different way, and so on. Of course it's going to be different things. However, it is certainly not a simple mechanism in the sense that other stupid poster laid out. It's going to be SOME DIFFERENCE. Not necessarily, or actually, most likely not the difference he's talking about. Basically, whenever somebody on r9k tries to use neurochemistry to explain anything, they'll be full of shit (I'm the exception). However, while the story anon tried to tell above is bullshit, the simple sentence "your brain reacts differently to (any two different things)" is true.

1 hours later 9006922 male feminist
>>9006863 You're not gonna get a free lecture out of me. You're free to ask some specific question, and if I feel totally bored, I may even be so decent as to explain it to you. Or, I may not.

1 hours later 9006984 Anonymous
>>9006922 Do you have any evidence that what I said about the reward circuit and the dopamine that fuels it being a major component of addiction is false? Can you justify your claim that what I said was biased "pseudoscience"?

1 hours later 9006991 Anonymous
>>9005878 3-7 times an average of 3.75 but I live off campus

1 hours later 9007034 male feminist
>>9006984 You'll have to be more specific for me to show you where you're wrong. Alternatively, you can start by reading Schultz 1997 (Science), and then possibly this one: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 18055018 To get you started. Then, think about causality.

1 hours later 9007043 Anonymous
>>9007034 Thank you, I will read it now, here is one for you too: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog /cupids-poisoned-arrow/201108/porn- then-and-now-welcome-brain-training

1 hours later 9007057 male feminist
>>9007043 >psychologytoday.com thank you lol

1 hours later 9007074 male feminist
>>9007043 >>9007057 to make it clear: i am not gonna read your shit ass blog post on fucking psychology today, leave me alone

1 hours later 9007075 Anonymous
I fap 1-3 times a week. My roommate goes out for half an hour to run every day. That's when I do it.

1 hours later 9007110 Anonymous
>>9007074 and this is why i love /r9k/

1 hours later 9007140 Anonymous
>>9006909 >self esteem I understand and agree with your point, that's still a subjective emotional difference, so you didn't really address my central question. I've had sex and felt like shit afterwards; it isn't something that particularly fills me with pride, and at worst, it's even make me depressed for awhile. Fapping, as long as I only do it once or twice a week, never makes me feel ashamed or depressed for any reason. I'm certainly not the norm in this regard, but your reasoning isn't something I experience, which is why I'm interested in concrete physical evidence of brain changes that are beyond my conscious perception.

1 hours later 9007161 Anonymous
>>9007140 my advice: stop asking these retards in r9k and research it on your own, all you will get here is angry circlejerking and whatever these assholes remember from that one ted talk they watched 6 months ago

1 hours later 9007174 male feminist
>>9007140 My reasoning isn't necessarily that one is better than the other, far from it. You're not gonna get hairy palms from masturbating too much. Science most likely won't be able to answer your questions. Science looks at statistical trends in populations. It might at best tell you what you're slightly more likely to be, not what you are. If your personal experience is that masturbation works just fine for you, rub out to your heart's desire is what any (reasonable) doc in the world will tell you.

2 hours later 9007519 Anonymous
>>9005878 Not at college (I have already graduated). In college was at least 2 times per day. Now it is at least 4 times per day.

2 hours later 9007832 Anonymous
>>9006795 Sorry about coming back so late > meet another girl > think that I click with her > get drunk one night and dance with her roommate, telling her that I wanted to fuck then both > she doesn't tell me that I said such a fucked up thing until after these events > continue hanging out with her, feel like I'm getting closer to her > tells me I can sleep in her bed with her, but no sex teehee ;) > do this twice because hurr virgin > third time we just make the fuck out and I very nearly get all the way in there >"nope, won't fit, abort mission" > blue balled > find her making out with one of my drunk friends days later > Welp

2 hours later 9007899 Anonymous
>>9007140 There are none. All the facts no-fap faggots spout consistently (including the TedX shit) come from a single paper published in Italy that was never peer reviewed and was funded by feminist groups opposed to pornography. Incidentally it's probably why this male feminist cuckold believes it so much.,

2 hours later 9007940 male feminist
>>9007899 > Incidentally it's probably why this male feminist cuckold believes it so much., I think you are just very, very bad at reading. Probably because you're stupid.

3 hours later 9008963 Anonymous
>>9006794 do you use a phone while you fap or you just use complete imagination?

4 hours later 9009030 Anonymous
>>9006991 I live off campus too It severely limits my interaction with everyone

4 hours later 9009079 Anonymous (1380921193477s.jpg 123x125 3kB)
>>9007110 It's funny how people complain about the citations as if no possible valid merit would come of reading and examining for any possible validity that may arise. I'm also amused that the one asking for citations isn't one to be taken seriously considering he asked and refused to read.

4 hours later 9009135 Anonymous
>>9006790 >1220 ng/dl testosterone Holy shit, I barely got above that juicing. Your testicles are trying to turn you into God.

4 hours later 9009148 Anonymous
>>9009135 How do I test this?

4 hours later 9009206 Anonymous
8 days since fapping. I'm going to try to make it all the way to November. I'll also try to document any changes I notice. Actually, I'll start now. A girl came up and talked to me on Friday, and that never really happens.

4 hours later 9009257 Anonymous
>>9009148 I was on constant blood tests during an in patient sleep study and liked to read the results. It's a simple blood test, you could ask your GP to draw blood for it.

4 hours later 9009296 Anonymous
>>9007519 Feel any fatigue or are you happy with that schedule?

4 hours later 9009322 Anonymous
>>9007832 I take that shit too personally, if I saw that girl later with another guy I'd be jealous and butt mad

4 hours later 9009334 Anonymous
>>9009206 Why would you think 8 days of nofapping had anything to do with it? This type of correlation makes no sense

4 hours later 9009367 Anonymous
>>9009334 I could see it. High testosterone has so many symptoms that humans are trained instinctively to pick up on that it could make err all of the difference.

5 hours later 9009993 Anonymous
>>9009322 Oh, yeah, I was insanely drunk myself when I saw it happen, and it was in front of my dorm room too I literally had to remove myself from that side of the campus to avoid going apeshit It's a running joke among my friends now about how angry I was, and it didn't help that I'm black, had a white tank top on and she was wearing my shirt

5 hours later 9010062 Anonymous
I was fapping maybe twice a week because roommates. Now i'm trying not to fap because I have a friends-with-benefits situation >tfw her roommate was gone this weekend >tfw she was on the rag (period) >tfw she thought it would feel good for my bare dick to be pressed up against my stomach with her grinding her spandex-vag on top of me it didn't feel good at all

5 hours later 9010221 nofap
I've never fapped

5 hours later 9010313 Anonymous
>>9010221 How old are you? Are you gay?

5 hours later 9010363 Anonymous
3-4 times a day. just too damn horny ye heard

5 hours later 9010374 nofap
>>9010313 18, and no, I'm straight

7 hours later 9011427 Anonymous
>>9010221 >>9010313 >>9010374 Ha, give the man a hand!

14 hours later 9013833 Anonymous
>>9005935 Just wait until your over 40 and your dick doesn't get hard anymore. Then you'll fucking dream about fapping.

14 hours later 9013846 Anonymous
Senior in college I fap like 1-4 times a day, at least once before I go to sleep

14 hours later 9013907 Anonymous
>>9006502 and this is why you should never try to be happy, because it will just raise the bar and it will harder to be happy.

14 hours later 9013913 Anonymous
>>9006560 Like your body can tell the difference between fucking and fapping...

14 hours later 9013968 Anonymous
>>9005878 2 times a day averagely.

15 hours later 9013981 Anonymous
>>9010221 I would go insane if I were you. I fapped for my first time at 14 and before fapping I was horny constantly and it didn't help that I lived in an area with a lot of hot women. I bet I would be in jail for raping somebody if it were not for fapping.

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