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2014-05-04 07:18 11570916 Anonymous (dudeniceknucks.jpg 348x145 3kB)
I don't understand your autistic obsession with virginity. I just spent the evening with a group of normies that included what you guys would probably call chads. Five guys, three girls.
Guess what? Only two or three out of the eight in the group are not virgins. Chad1 and Chad2 are virgins. Sure we're eighteen, but the general consensus is that it doesn't fucking matter. Maybe it does to turbosluts (and there are plenty of them on 4chan, even aside from the bait), but not to normal people.
Of course, this is at the convergence of the American South and Midwest, and is only representative of the upper-middle class, so your reality may vary. BUT SNAP OUT OF IT. It's normal to be a virgin.
5 min later 11570973 Anonymous
Why do I have to click reply to make the box open now? It's fucking annoying.
Wait what was I going to say?
Oh right.
Op is a fag.
9 min later 11571003 Anonymous
>>11570916
Non-normalfag detected.
You lie through your fingers, sir
11 min later 11571020 Anonymous
>>11570916
>I don't understand your autistic obsession with virginity.
it's the only thing the common robot has left.
13 min later 11571045 Anonymous
>>11571003
I am a robot among normalfags, the only light among the darkness
Actually my best friend is somewhat popular, which is how I get invited to events, but he's only popular because his girlfriend is really social.
Anyway, this is all true.
13 min later 11571048 Anonymous
>>11570916
either you live in a mormon community or you're lying
15 min later 11571075 Anonymous
>>11570916
You're 18 right now. It doesn't really matter at that age. You still have your entire 20s and shit to fuck around.
The problem is that it's completely unacceptable for someone who is 21+ to have zero experience with women. Past a certain age, you are expected to have some sort of experience. That's where we fail.
16 min later 11571084 Anonymous (1388265658137.png 180x158 28kB)
Get out normie, not everyone on this board is underageb&.
when you're 24 and still a virgin you can come back.
19 min later 11571108 Anonymous
>>11571048
Nope. I mean, 5/8 were virgins, 3/8 were not, so it's not like everyone is like this.
We're not super uptight either, we all go to parties/events, drink, all that good stuff.
21 min later 11571127 Anonymous
>>11571108
>guys not lying about losing their virginity
so its the mormon community? Where the fuck do you live, and are y'all still in hs, i'm curious?
22 min later 11571150 Anonymous
>>11571075
>completely unacceptable
why?
24 min later 11571159 Anonymous
>>11571075
I know a fellow who lost his virginity at 22. The experience socially certainly gimped him much more than sexual experience.
Anyone who is smart enough to browse this board can easily request the "guide to oral" pasta on /adv/ or /r/, and with that even a crippled midget can get most girls off. Given how shitty the average guy is at that, in general post-orgasm or near-orgasm girls won't care about your awkwardness or that your finish quickly.
24 min later 11571168 Anonymous
>>11571127
I said convergence of South and Midwest. Interpret that as either Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Louisville, St. Louis, or the surrounding areas.
Yes, we are finishing HS
As far as I know, for the average person of our peer group, this is normal.
26 min later 11571180 Anonymous
>>11571159
I'm in the same boat. My first sex experience really fucked up my relationship shit.
26 min later 11571185 Anonymous
That makes sense, when I was in high school only minorities and delinquints were fucking.
27 min later 11571192 Anonymous
>>11570916
>Sure we're eighteen
You'll understand when you're 27.
28 min later 11571201 Anonymous
>>11570916
Pretty much this
when i started hanging around with people i found out that many more guys are virgins than i thought. If ur just "average" then your Possibility to be virgin increases dramatically
honestly i dont know why this hasnt caused a dude to go on a shooting spree at a womens school or convention
29 min later 11571207 Anonymous
>>11571180
I meant that he was awkward on dates, but that lack of experience mattered much less in bed.
29 min later 11571209 Anonymous
Man, teenage pregnancy and promiscuity has gone down since the 50s, as has drug use, and age of losing virginity has gone up.
All the shit about everybody becoming sloots is total bullshit. The difference and why it seems that way to a lot of people is because this whole internet thing puts tons of stuff from people's personal lives right in front of you, which is notably not something that has been a part of human civilization at any other point in history. The result is a generation of people that are more empathetic, but who feel more hopeless, that get laid less often, but are accused of being slutty more, that use less drugs, but are treated like addicts and criminals.
31 min later 11571233 Anonymous
>>11571207
Ah, I dig.
31 min later 11571234 Anonymous
>>11571209
>Teenage pregnancies
Down
>Promiscuity
Up
>Drug use
Dangerous drug use is down except among poorer teens
>Age of losing virginity
Down
Get your stats right.
32 min later 11571242 Anonymous
>>11570916
so at 32 and virgin I'm normal? Good to know. Thanks!
33 min later 11571260 Anonymous
>>11571150
Because it shows that you are a failure at fulfilling your prime biological directive. Not only that, just the fact that you went through one of the horniest periods of your life without getting ANY shows how much of a fuck up you are. While everyone else was out getting kisses, hand holds, etc, you got absolutely NOTHING.
I'm going to channel my inner autist and put this in MMORPG terms. You are now level 15 (age) or whatever. There is a quest that gives experience and stats if you manage to successfully complete it. Nearly everyone who's playing knows that this is an important quest that must be done in order to advance. Despite you knowing all this, you don't even do the quest.
You are now behind everyone in terms of experience and skill. Why should they date you when they can date someone else with more experience? Why shouldn't they date someone who is normal?
>>11571159
>Given how shitty the average guy is at that, in general post-orgasm or near-orgasm girls won't care about your awkwardness or that your finish quickly.
The problem isn't the sex. I'm fairly sure that once you're in the moment, instincts take over. The problem is progressing to the stage of sex. How the fuck is someone with no experience going to flirt and touch a girl to the point where she'll have sex with him?
33 min later 11571268 Anonymous (1336736377270.jpg 1185x720 173kB)
I'm through with college already but everyone I knew in college had a girlfriend or boyfriend and what do girlfriends and boyfriends do besides make sex
33 min later 11571270 Anonymous
>>11571242
I'm saying that people don't care very much. At that age of course it's not normal, considering a lot of people are already starting families. But is it a deal breaker? It probably depends on what crowd you are hanging out with, but not necessarily.
34 min later 11571289 Anonymous
>>11571268
One of the hottest girls I know has a boyfriend, who is my friend, and they are both virgins. They've been together for about nine months
35 min later 11571292 Anonymous
>>11570916
>Sure we're eighteen
>Sure we're eighteen
>Sure we're eighteen
>Sure we're eighteen
for fucks sake, could you teens just lurk moar and stop thinking any robot shit applies to you
35 min later 11571301 Anonymous
>>11570916
If you're 20 something and still a virgin then it tends to impact how people view you socially, which means it matters to those of us that are already having trouble with our social lives. It's sort of like the inverse of a slut I think. That is, the more men a women sleeps with over a short period of time the more it will matter to certain people. In a sort of inverse relationship, the less women a man sleeps with over a longer period of time, the more it will matter to certain people.
36 min later 11571310 Anonymous
>>11571260
Step 1: Make guy friends
2: Have guy friends invite you to social events, or go to social events yourself, possibly inviting guy friends
3: Talk with girls, practice flirting
4: Flirt until girl makes now obvious signals she wants you
5: Invite her back to your room, and start making out and slowly undressing each other
6: ???
7: Profit
Also, basic pasta flirting guide I wrote for another bot a year back.
FLIRTING
The dynamic is back and forth. One person expresses interest, the other throws it back + a subtle unbalancing move.
Basic Example:
Guy: [That drink] you just ordered is heavy duty, I like your style.
Girl: Yeah, I doubt you could handle it
Guy: You'd be surprised.
Let's examine what happened here. The guy expressed interest, by taking notice of the girl's activity and using it to subtly compliment her. The girl challenged the guy to prove that he has more than a one liner, and that there is more than the face to him. He then replies that in fact, he does have something that he can prove, and the flirtatious conversation progresses.
If you think of it like a legitimate conversation you'll suck at it and be annoyed.
38 min later 11571325 Anonymous
>>11571075
>>11571150
>why?
Because girls are only attracted to what other girls are attracted to. The virgin doesn't have Hive Cunt approval and she's not risking anyone being emotionally attached to her. Also she wont have sex with anyone who isn't either great on the looks side or can provide her with material resources for that sex. Preferable and usually both.
>>11571159
>Given how shitty the average guy is at that, in general post-orgasm or near-orgasm girls won't care about your awkwardness or that your finish quickly.
You're implying and assuming we've even gotten a girl to let us touch her... period.
Actually I've eaten pussy before, at a bar, when I was drunk, dressed as Iron Man so the woman never saw my face and honestly she like 3/10 and just came and sat on my lap and the first thing out of my mouth was "can I eat your pussy?" because a friend of mine said suggested just straight up asking.
...
Point is.... I don't even know what the point is anymore.
38 min later 11571335 Anonymous
>>11571260
>prime biological directive
Who the fuck cares?
Also rpgs are terrible at simulating growth of humans.
>Why should they date you when they can date someone else with more experience?
People don't think this way at all. The most thought that goes into an interaction is "how much do I like this person?" It's not about experience, it's about identity.
39 min later 11571340 Anonymous
>>11571310
>Girl: Yeah, I doubt you could handle it
>Guy: You'd be surprised.
maybe ive been browsing r9k too long but that looks autistic as fuck
39 min later 11571346 Anonymous
>>11571292
Yeah I'm honestly sick of teens on this fucking site man. So horny, so whiney, so impatient.
GRUMP GRUMP GRUMP
39 min later 11571347 Anonymous
>>11571325
>Because girls are only attracted to what other girls are attracted to
Homie you do not understand women at all.
39 min later 11571349 Anonymous
>>11571310
No need to make flirting so complicated. It's just saying things back and forth in flirt mode, flirt mode being making expressive faces and shitty jokes
40 min later 11571362 Anonymous
>>11571347
You're right, Chad doesn't exist. Women are definitely not attracted to guys who other women are attracted too.
44 min later 11571402 Anonymous
>>11571340
I made it for an actually austistic robot to be as obvious to follow as possible. Its a dumbed down example, though it is almost verbatim a conversation between two drunk people I've actually witnessed.
>>11571349
Trying to make it blindingly obvious for people who don't understand the difference in modes.
44 min later 11571405 Anonymous
>>11571310
>Step 1: Make guy friends
you lost me
44 min later 11571409 Anonymous
>>11571340
It's more cheesy than autistic. It's a perfectly functional response that'll make people feel at ease.
46 min later 11571423 Anonymous
>>11571347
Are you seriously trying to say most women wouldn't stop being attracted to a guy if she found out most of her friends didn't consider him attractive? I don't buy that at all.
47 min later 11571436 Anonymous
>>11571405
Do social activities you don't usually do to break out of your set routine and see if you like anything new.
Go on a hike with a group of people your age through meetup. Join an age-limited philosophy centered book club. Go see a concert in the nearest major city, attend a major festival.
Do new things that force you to interact with others for whom the activity might also be new essentially.
48 min later 11571448 Anonymous
>>11571423
They'd be less attracted, but if only due to the two hormone bumps they probably wouldn't stop being attracted.
Its the same with a guy who fucks a girl who his friends don't consider attractive. Maybe they don't go on as many public dates, but he still fucks her.
50 min later 11571461 Anonymous
>>11571310
I read that before, but I'm not witty enough to come up with on-the-spot comebacks and shit like that. Furthermore, I don't just "make friends" at the drop of a hat. I'm not a guy who has 40+ friends, rather, I have a small group of tight knit bros. We're all fucking losers who don't have female friends though.
>If you think of it like a legitimate conversation you'll suck at it and be annoyed.
Legitimate conversations are all I know. Not a single girl has EVER been interested in me, nor have they flirted. Trust me, I've looked for signs to give myself some sort of validation, but no dice. How the fuck am I, as someone who is moving toward his mid 20's, going to learn everything overnight?
>>11571335
>The most thought that goes into an interaction is "how much do I like this person?" It's not about experience, it's about identity.
Your identity is derived from your experience.
52 min later 11571484 Anonymous
>>11571448
I don't buy that. I've heard a few girls say that if their friends didn't "approve" of a guy they were seeing that they would drop him and wonder where they went wrong.
52 min later 11571486 Anonymous
>>11571234
Uh, no, number of virgins in high school and beyond has gone up and the average age of losing virginity has also gone up.
Mind you this is all for Burgerland, no idea what is going on for Yuropoors.
52 min later 11571488 Anonymous
>>11571362
Homie, analyze goddamn sentences before you start mouthin off shit like a dumbass
54 min later 11571507 Anonymous
>>11571461
>Your identity is derived from your experience
The experience that forges your identity does not revolve around dating, dude
54 min later 11571508 Anonymous
>>11571486
Yeah, europe is really fucking weird. In some countries the median age to lose virginity is like 13-15 or some shit. What the fuck is going on over there.
Only the utter gutter trash of the US loses virginity that early
55 min later 11571517 Anonymous
>>11571461
You don't have to learn everything overnight. Until you are 30, it is acceptable to be a socially inept asshat in social situations. Doesn't mean they'll be charmed by your failure, but they also won't be creeped out.
You don't need friends so much as friendly contacts, who open the way to new events and experiences. Unless you make a point of not talking to others, the activities I outlined will force interaction and inevitably some of the guys will have congenial personalities.
As for flirting, its a developed skill, like blacksmithing or coding. It takes time, effort, and practice, but with dedicated effort you could probably get up to speed in 3-6 months.
Improving your skills will also let you pick up on when a girl is attracted to you, and make more girls attracted to you assuming the rest of you (your clothes, your posture) isn't completely repulsive.
55 min later 11571520 Anonymous
>>11571484
Those are haughty bitches, dude, not all women
1 hours later 11571588 Anonymous
>>11571507
I never said it revolved around dating, but you'd be a fool to say my (lack of) experience dating has no ramifications on my identity.
>>11571517
>acceptable to be a socially inept asshat in social situations
No it's not. Do you realize how much shit gets talked about you if you're a social retard?
1 hours later 11571610 Anonymous
>>11571588
They will talk shit about you, but thats why you do multiple things and keep practicing. Its the same way people will haze you when you start a job that takes acquired expertise.
I can ignore all the shit that was talked about me back when I didn't know how to flirt or interact with women because I am now good at it. Their shittalk means nothing if you are improving yourself.
1 hours later 11571643 Anonymous
>>11571588
>no ramifications on my identity
It's your identity. Any ramifications it has are your own doing.
1 hours later 11571735 Anonymous
>>11571610
>Their shittalk means nothing if you are improving yourself.
Best post I've seen on /r9k/ in a long time.
1 hours later 11571744 Anonymous
>>11571075
unacceptable to who? fail at what?
Stop believing in these illusions.
1 hours later 11571811 Anonymous
>>11571484
>>11571423
Dude, femanons on here have explained this exact same thing in those exact same words. I probably really should of screen capped it but one femanon said her and other women definitely think by association PRIMARILY. Her and all the girls she said she knew would actually like certain guys but totally change their minds when their friends didn't like them. But it wouldn't ever be so straight forward, like they would not literally come out and say it like that but the girl knew because she felt the same invisible pressure. She said girls think they're weak so they follow whoever/whatever is normal or what others are doing.
This is very telling because women have always being in charge of handing down social norms/behaviors in groups. It makes sense that they put more emphasis on watching who others are with and making sure they follow suite than actually looking at the individual person and their individual merits.
Hence Chad.
1 hours later 11571906 Anonymous
>>11571811
Not exactly a female specific thing. If the most attractive guy in the room goes for a girl, the rest of the guys will want her more as a result. Just human nature.
1 hours later 11571923 Anonymous
>>11571811
I don't think it's really as extreme as all that, but it is a factor.
It's a factor that can help you out too though. You get in with one girl, you often get in with the others too.
4 hours later 11572972 Anonymous
>>11571906
I disagree. Men's tastes are quite varied when it comes to the physical aspects. Just because the most attractive guy thinks a tanned blonde with huge tits is hot, doesn't mean every other guy will stop going after their own preferences. They'll give the blonde a once-over, but that's about it. A guy who wants a qt petite redhead is still going to want a qt petite redhead.
However, women are different in this regard. They respond incredibly well to social proofing. Just take a look at when a guy has a girlfriend. Girls will automatically flock to him because he has been preselected by another girl. Just 1 girl is enough to change the opinions of many.
4 hours later 11573005 Anonymous (Kappa.png 841x990 236kB)
>>11570916
>Sure we're eighteen
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