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2014-02-09 11:10 10572484 Anonymous Daily reminder that men have no reproductive rights (feminists.jpg 217x296 18kB)
>"I wasn't married but I had been seeing this girl. At the time I owned my business and had really good income. She admitted to me that she was having an affair and we broke up. She moved in with the guy she was cheating on me with and over a year later I received a child support bill for her child. When I contacted her and asked what was up with this action against me she said that she was no longer with the other guy and she knew I could 'afford' to take care of her. She said that she put my name on the birth certificate and the baby was a few months old." >"Yes, in fact the blood test proved I wasn't but by the time all this happened the baby was almost a year old and had my name all that time. The judge said that is something he couldn't change and I was the better choice for the child because I had such a good job and so forth. I was then declared to be the presumed father. I have since removed myself from the situation because the biological that had taken the paternity test and was matched as the dad decided to get visitation and I didn't want to confuse the kid, so needless to say I haven't seen her since she was a baby." >If you are wondering how this has impacted his life, here are the results. He has gone bankrupt and lost his business because of high support he was paying. Because support is based upon your income his was set to a very high but manageable amount... but during a series of slow months he got behind. The mother issued a warrant out and the D.A. took his drivers license. "Well, you can not work if you can't get there. I had to give up my business." http://voices.yahoo.com/presumed-fa thers-act-man-pay-child-support-507 695.html

1 min later 10572502 Anonymous (what the hell dude wtf.jpg 293x276 19kB)
>>10572484 >"Well, I guess it depends on the women involved. You gotta get by the best you can right? If the guy has a good job then why not, he can afford it. If I got pregnant I know which ones out of all the guys I have dated that would be good dads and which ones wouldn't. It's all about choice... I think it's actually quite cool that a mother has the right to choose who the father is it allows them to make the right decision. Don't you ever wish you could cover a mistake with a good conclusion? I do, so I could see it in some situations, yeah. " (A 25 year old woman who is not yet a mother)

2 min later 10572510 Anonymous
Do men really need reproductive rights when it's the woman carrying the baby/doing all of the work?

2 min later 10572511 Anonymous
jimmmies officially russled goddamn it

3 min later 10572525 Anonymous (reading internet.jpg 306x309 23kB)
>>10572502 this is not real. It can't be. It's just an elaborate ploy to get people angry. No one can actually think that. Please someone reassure me that no one actually thinks that

4 min later 10572537 Anonymous
>>10572510 >Doing all the work Once women really do ALL the work (yes, that includes PROVIDING for the baby), that is the day men no longer need reproductive rights. Now, men have no reproductive rights and are expected to provide for babies they did not want and sometimes even babies that aren't theirs. Women are nothing but opportunistic vipers who want nothing but to exploit men, even to their deaths if needed.

5 min later 10572544 Anonymous
>>10572510 yes he fucking does. Especially with the current legal situation where men are forced by law to provide for children that they clearly didn't want. Being chained to bondage for 18 years is hardly nothing.

5 min later 10572551 Anonymous
>>10572525 >Please someone reassure me that no one actually thinks that Women are selfish. I'm pretty sure that, even if the story is fake, the majority of women would side with the mother.

6 min later 10572561 Anonymous (baby meat shield.jpg 780x585 121kB)
>>10572510 men have zero reproductive rights, but all the responsibility. A man can not legally abort a pregnancy if the woman wants to keep it. He can't even sign away his parental responsibilities (financial abortion) without the woman agreeing to it first. But he is expected to bare all the financial burden if the child is born. Meanwhile, a woman can abort a child she doesn't want, even if the man wants to keep it. This is why I will always be against abortion. I am appalled that women are allowed to kill babys but men are not allowed to. Talk about privilege.

7 min later 10572575 Anonymous
>>10572544 Creating and having a baby What a man does >Ejaculates in her pussy without a condom What a woman does >eats healthy and enough for two lifeforms >gives up drinking, smoking and drugs >has to be extra careful physically >regular doctor visits >nausea, headaches + all the other symptoms of pregnancy >have to carry the thing as it gets heavier for basically a year >has to spit the thing out of her pussy (usually) thus ruining it >has to take care of it whether or not daddy sticks around

9 min later 10572596 Anonymous (834645325.jpg 250x188 12kB)
>>10572561 >I am appalled that women are allowed to kill babys but men are not allowed to. Talk about privilege.

9 min later 10572597 Anonymous (Sweating-Man.jpg 300x300 20kB)
>>10572551 the law already sides with them. In Canada, if you decide to let your gf live with you, and she lives with you for 2 years, the law automatically sees you as married. And if you break up, divorce laws apply and she takes half your shit. This is not unique to Canada, many countries have this, some countries have a limit thats as low as 6 months instead of 2 years. You don't have to get married in order to get your life destroyed. Soon just having sex with a woman will be tantamount to marriage-esque responsibilities. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti sh-columbia/common-law-couples-as-g ood-as-married-in-b-c-1.1413551

9 min later 10572606 Anonymous
>>10572561 In fact, the very notion that a man can be forced to provide for a child is stupid. If it were up to me, this is how I'd do it, legally: >A woman always bears the sole financial burden for a child, unless a man explicitly states he wishes to (co-)provide for the child >This consent is automatically assumed to be present IF the man and woman are married AND the child is biologically proven to be of the husband. Marriage has regaines its value, men have reproductive rights and women are forced to be sexually responsible. Three birds with one stone. But of course, giving men rights is "sexist".

10 min later 10572624 Anonymous
>>10572597 >In Canada, if you decide to let your gf live with you, and she lives with you for 2 years, the law automatically sees you as married. And if you break up, divorce laws apply and she takes half your shit. The exception to this is based Quebec because they run on Civil law instead of Common law.

13 min later 10572656 Anonymous
>>10572575 Boo fucking hoo. 9 months of shitty pregnancy doesn't guarantee you to 18 years of free money. If pregnancy is so hard, don't get pregnant or get an abortion.

15 min later 10572675 Anonymous
>>10572597 >>10572624 these kind of things only prove that common law is a cancer on the judicial system

15 min later 10572677 Anonymous
>>10572656 There's nothing more sexist than telling a woman she isn't entitled to a man's money purely for existing.

18 min later 10572709 Anonymous
>HEY GUYS! I DATED THIS GUY WHO I KNOW FOR SURE ISN'T THE FATHER, BUT I CAN FORCE HIM TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT DUE TO THIS LAW! Hell, they even mentioned exactly this in the comments and how easy it is to lie about it.

20 min later 10572721 Anonymous
>>10572575 What a man does >Provides half the blue prints What a woman does >Provides half the blue prints >Provides the building materials >Provides the building site There is no product/baby without both halves of the blue prints. If you take the blue prints without his consent, this is tantamount to theft and you'll get sued. But somehow, in the real world, a man doesn't have a say with what happens with his genetic material. A woman can theoretically inseminate herself with the sperm in discarded condom and the man won't be able to stop the pregnancy if he found out a few weeks later. And to top it off, he has no way of escaping from this either due to the fact that he can't relinquish his parental rights&responsibilities without the consent of the mother.

20 min later 10572727 Anonymous
>>10572677 I-I'm sorry... I'll check my male priv m'lady...

23 min later 10572757 Anonymous
>>10572510 EXCEPT IT WAS NOT HIS KID YOU FUCKING CUNT! I would rather go to prison for murder than pay child support for a kid that isn't mine. Where I live, murder = 10 years. I'd take 10 years of prison over 18+ years of financial entrapment. Every girl I've ever been with, I made it very clear if she ever tries to pull any stunts, I'll kill her without hesitation. They want to ruin my life? I'll take their life as payment.

25 min later 10572776 Anonymous
>>10572721 >Provides the building materials Nope, the man does that >Provides the site The man still does that What, did you really think that all the food and water the child (and the mother!) consume are paid for with the mother's money? Let's also not forget the fact that this mother can live in a house with a roof over her head and heating, is this because of the mother's hard work? Does the mother pay for the insurance that allows hospital personel to guide her through a safe and healthy childbirth? No. I love how you're devaluating the financial effort men put into their children to allow women to extort even more money from men, sometimes even men THAT AREN'T THE FATHER OF THOSE CHILDREN. You must be a woman or a moron (in b4 the difference between the two is marginal).

26 min later 10572796 Anonymous
Jesus Christ I'm mad sadly I know guys who felt on this trap and are suffering because of it

26 min later 10572797 Anonymous (1323482726228.jpg 600x422 78kB)
>The scumbag drug dealer alpha got me knocked up >oh well you have a better job I think I'll just pick you to be the dad >But no you can't see the kid, that's the biological fathers duty, we don't want the kid emotionally damaged

27 min later 10572805 Anonymous
>wahhhh women have it hard DX >woman: 9 months of physical pain >man: 18 years of financial pain No, I'm sure the man has it worse.

28 min later 10572812 Anonymous
>>10572484 >>"I wasn't married but I had been seeing this girl. At the time I owned my business and had really good income. She admitted to me that she was having an affair and we broke up. She moved in with the guy she was cheating on me with and over a year later I received a child support bill for her child. When I contacted her and asked what was up with this action against me she said that she was no longer with the other guy and she knew I could 'afford' to take care of her. She said that she put my name on the birth certificate and the baby was a few months old." This should be legally considered fraud.

29 min later 10572826 Anonymous
>>10572776 You're devaluating the emotional effort that the woman has to offer in order to allow a man to work for that house. You're also forgetting that the man would not exist if his mother did not raise him and feed him, also a woman.

30 min later 10572839 Anonymous
>>10572805 >woman: 9 months of physical pain Bear in mind she's also spending 18 years raising the kid. Not defending what this woman did, because it should be legal to charge her for knowingly putting the wrong father's name down and for the reasons she listed. Just saying.

31 min later 10572858 Anonymous
>>10572597 In my state common law starts after 1 year of cohabitation. The law is still pretty fair on "divorce" though. The woman is only entitled to half of everything earned or purchased during the common law marriage. So if the man already owned the house she doesn't get it.

31 min later 10572870 Anonymous
>>10572826 >You're devaluating the emotional effort that the woman has to offer in order to allow a man to work for that house Awwwhh poor woman has to sit back and let someone else do all the work for her, a bloo bloo. > You're also forgetting that the man would not exist if his mother did not raise him and feed him, also a woman. You're also forgetting that the man would not exist if his father didn't provide the resources necessary for the mother to raise a kid.

33 min later 10572890 Anonymous
>>10572858 If the house was mine before marriage (lol wouldn't get married in the first place) and she got it cuz muh divorce, I'd genuinely kill her. A man who has lost everything is a dangerous person.

33 min later 10572895 Anonymous
>>10572870 >You're also forgetting that the man would not exist if his father didn't provide the resources necessary for the mother to raise a kid. And the semen, let's not forget the semen. Women and their "we give life" rethoric are trying to eliminate the father from the childrearing process legally and even biologically, but strangely enough not financially.

34 min later 10572905 Anonymous
>>10572839 >Bear in mind she's also spending 18 years raising the kid. Bear in mind the father also has to spend 18 years raising the child. But nooo clearly the person who gets everything handed to them and legally enslave a non biological male to raise her kids clearly has it worse!

35 min later 10572917 Anonymous
>>10572895 Precisely. Bunch of cunts. One day this Misandrist system will collapse and women will be at our mercy once more.

39 min later 10572972 Anonymous
>>10572858 >The woman is only entitled to half of everything earned or purchased during the common law marriage. how is this in anyway fair? Just because I married some cunt, doesn't mean she deserves half the shit I bought while married to her.

43 min later 10573019 Anonymous
>>10572721 Are you high? 'Providing the blueprints' for a male is like, one of the most fun things he can do on this Earth: masturbate his dick using a pussy. It's no wonder that in a conversation like this you make it out to be such a burden when most of the time you're crying about women not giving it to you.

43 min later 10573026 Anonymous
>>10572917 >Our mercy Nope. At the mercy of niggers and muslims. Because of feminism fucking men over, reproduction is no longer a viable ambition. Result: western fertility rates are abyssmal, below the replacement rate. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!m sg/uk.sci.med.nursing/C1ocvXi4iFw/s mzVguV8leQJ In the span of one century, white people are going from being just over a quarter of the world's population to being less than 10%. Many of these non-whites will emigrate to the West, where low fertility rates creates a need for a new, young generation and where niggers and muslims are more than willing to come due to high living standards, freedom etc. Feminism has destroyed the West, and there will be no karma for it. The white man will fall due to the bullshit of the white woman.

44 min later 10573038 Anonymous
>Matriarchy is here >Girls still aren't predatory yet For fuck's sake, you bitches have no idea how to subjugate another gender. Come ON

45 min later 10573043 Anonymous
>>10572917 I have a bad feeling that feminism will become even stronger after societal collapse. When Rome collapsed, the Romans thought they weren't being Christian enough.

45 min later 10573055 Anonymous
>>10573026 Take your defeatist tripe elsewhere. I will spend my last dying breath defending my country from the mud hordes. We will put our women back in their rightful place and reclaim our lands. If not, I'll die trying.

46 min later 10573065 Anonymous
>>10573043 Feminism is entirely dependent on excess resources, wealth and legal enforcement. Once that's all gone, Feminism is fucked.

48 min later 10573093 Anonymous
>>10572484 >just not paying it >not leaving the state What a fuckin' fool.

49 min later 10573104 Anonymous
>>10573055 >I will spend my last dying breath defending my country from the mud hordes. What're you planning to do, pull another Breivik? Enforce the idea that every man who loves the West and its values is a massmurdering moron? This isn't a battle we're fighting here, this is a mercy killing. The West has been dying ever since the rise of moral relativism in the 60s, Islam is merely delivering the coup de grace. >If not, I'll die trying. Good luck, Anders.

49 min later 10573110 Anonymous
>>10573019 I'm sure you'd be willing to give up your life in exchange for a few minutes of fun, won't you, you cunt. A woman has sex and gets pregnant, how many opportunities does she have to undo this mistake? From 5-days after pills to full-on abortions. Meanwhile a guy has doesn't even have a choice to stop a pregnancy, he's at the mercy of the woman. If you look at this and honestly don't see that it's unfair, then there is something wrong with you.

50 min later 10573115 Anonymous
>>10573093 Good luck getting a passport when you have a warrant out on your ass.

50 min later 10573117 Anonymous
>>10573104 You've got a limited scope of intelligence if you think the only option is violence. The stupid thing to do is do something that'll make the situation worse.

54 min later 10573180 Anonymous
>>10573117 What is the other option then? Our only solution is having more babies, which (among others) involves doing a complete 180 on everything we've done ever since the 60's. Do you really think this is viable, especially when the grand majority of the population thinks everything's fine and telling them that they're wrong automatically makes you a sexist, racist, xenophobic nazi? Nah, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the show. Once we're at the point of no return, I'll be an old man in my golden years and I can tell everyone 'I told you so'. I'm not saying this because I enjoy being right in my doomsday predictions, but merely because there's no other option. If the West falls, it is because Westerners wanted it to fall. Like I said, Islam is merely putting the West out of its own misery, at has been in its death throes ever since the 60's.

56 min later 10573203 Anonymous
>>10573180 Well then, when 2060 comes around and we're old, we'll see who's right out of you and I. I've never been the type to sit back and wait for imminent defeat.

57 min later 10573207 Anonymous
>>10572972 technically you're also entitled to half of whatever she buys as well. Good luck finding a judge that agrees that a man isn't obligated to let her keep all of her stuff because pussy on a pedestal, but the laws written that way anyways. Interpretations may vary.

59 min later 10573228 Anonymous
>>10573203 I hope by then, you'll be able to tell me that I was wrong. It's far more likely that I'm right, but this is one of those rare cases where I don't want to be right.

1 hours later 10573324 Anonymous
>>10573228 46 years is a long time. But change is needed before then. I'd take a guess that the late 2030's are the cut off for salvation. Well, if we live to 60, let's hope the bleak future isn't the outcome.

1 hours later 10573437 Anonymous
>>10572597 Brazil is 6 months and she gets everything u have. Everything Europe or Canada does we copy, fucking feminist socialists countries ruining the world for everyone else

1 hours later 10573511 Anonymous
>>10573324 Thats a nice conversation between u two. But i agree with the guy that said we are fucked. There's no return, west will fall like Rome did or the British Empire did, just a shadow slowly fading away. The time for asians and muslims to take over has come and feminism doesnt stand a chance of surviving. I would love to rape all these feminist cunts and kill all white knights for what they did with the beta white men, the real builder of civilization.

1 hours later 10573526 Anonymous
>>10573511 Sure I'll die before our race ends, but I refuse to sit back and do nothing to try and change that. Feminism must be crushed if the West is to survive. All branches of Marxism must go.

1 hours later 10573540 Anonymous (Ghost_in_the_Shell_Arise_Ep_2_[1080p,BluRay,aac,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_50.56_[2014.02.09_04.15.30].jpg 1920x1080 97kB)
>All this legal trouble with divorce >not marrying and divorcing with the religion of Islam This shit is great. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorc e_in_Islam >After the waiting period is over, the couple is divorced and the husband is no longer responsible for the wife's expenses, but remains responsible for the maintenance of the children, until they are weaned >Women's right to initiate divorce is very limited compared with that of men. According to shari'a law, there are two reasons for a wife to be divorced: when she can prove that the husband did not have intercourse with her for more than two months or if the husband does not provide her with what she needs for living such as food and shelter. While men can divorce their spouses easily, women face legal and financial obstacles. > For example, in many cases the woman must repay her dowry and marriage expenses. In gerneral she also has to forfeit child custody, if the child is older than seven years. Even if she gets child custody, she has to give it to the father, when the child reaches the age of seven What are you robots doing man?

1 hours later 10573604 Anonymous
>"Well, I guess it depends on the women involved. You gotta get by the best you can right? If the guy has a good job then why not, he can afford it. If I got pregnant I know which ones out of all the guys I have dated that would be good dads and which ones wouldn't. It's all about choice... I think it's actually quite cool that a mother has the right to choose who the father is it allows them to make the right decision. Don't you ever wish you could cover a mistake with a good conclusion? I do, so I could see it in some situations, yeah. " (A 25 year old woman who is not yet a mother) Holy christ. This has to be a troll. I'm not even. I can't. I. Please. This has to be. These people aren't wandering my giant space-rock are they? With the law on their side? This is all a hoax, right?

1 hours later 10573607 Anonymous
>>10573540 That's probably the ONE thing Islam does right. It's not worth it for all the things they do wrong though.

1 hours later 10573630 Anonymous
>>10572597 >tfw my gf is from Canada >tfw I did not know this ffs...

1 hours later 10573766 Anonymous
>>10573630 Move to Quebec or dump her opportunistic ass

1 hours later 10573822 Anonymous
>>10573630 quebec is safe. Move there.

1 hours later 10573952 Anonymous
>>10572484 >She said that she put my name on the birth certificate and the baby was a few months old The thing is that if she forged his signature on the birth certificate, that wouldn't count as intent to be the father because he didn't actually sign it, and otherwise there's no basis for placing him as the presumed father. If he has an email or a phone call where she says that she put the name on there, that should be the case in a bag. Also nice to see typical MRA shitposting, bringing us a highly relevant new article from fucking 2007. You drones sure do love arguing the same threads over and over.

2 hours later 10574078 Anonymous
>>10573952 isn't there something like the statue of limitations or something, where after a certain amount of time they can't contest it anymore? >2007 And precedent is the basis of the modern legal system, dude.

3 hours later 10574914 Anonymous
>>10574897 Sorry wrong thread guys.

4 hours later 10575528 Anonymous
>>10573055 You ain't gonna do shit besides shitpost on here, eat hotpockets, jerk it to your chinese cartoon shows and browse Stormfront You wish you were a strong leader like Hitler. Prove me wrong, start a little group and watch it get torn apart by the mainstream media and internet Feminists (or probably just laughed at and ostracized like Neo-Nazis). The media has warped most whites' minds, you're not going to change anyone's outlook. You will die bitter, disillusioned and alone over your racial pride and for what reason? You will be long gone before the white race is so why does it even matter to you? Tyrone and the Jewish overlords have won with the birth of visual media. Just give up.

4 hours later 10575672 Anonymous
This is bullshit. No one can just claim you are the father. Only a woman's husband is considered the presumed father of her children. No marriage, no problem.

5 hours later 10576494 Anonymous
>>10573026 yeah but the new dominators are going to be the Chinese, the Hindus, and the Muslims, niggers will remain at the bottom of the barrel as the Chinese/Asians take over as the most intelligent, powerful, and most technologically advanced race. though the Chinks are going to have to put the muslims and niggers in line as they start looting and cause mass riots. the white men will stay dormant and pussy whipped as the muslims and niggers rape the remaining white women that are left.

5 hours later 10576706 Anonymous
>tfw trapped into having a kid >tfw the mom doesn't make me pay support, but on the other hand won't let me see the kid >tfw if I try, she said she would press for support and I couldn't afford it It wasn't expected or with consent, but I dunno, I kind of wouldn't mind being a dad.

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