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2014-05-25 06:59 4932483 Anonymous (animalfarm.jpg 400x654 185kB)
Is Animal Farm anti-semitic?

2 hours later 4932878 Anonymous
>>4932483 All animals are equal, but some animals (jews) are more equal than others

2 hours later 4933030 Anonymous
>>4932483 I've never heard it suggested that Orwell is anti-semitic. Any evidence for this OP? Or anyone else for that matter?

2 hours later 4933042 Anonymous
>>4932878 >>>/pol/

3 hours later 4933050 Anonymous
>>4933042 The pigs were jews, weren't they?

3 hours later 4933065 Anonymous
>>4933050 What? Snowball was Trotsky who was indeed Jewish, but generally speaking there's no reason to think that the pigs in general were Jewish?

3 hours later 4933069 Anonymous
>>4932483 The Universe is anti-semitic.

3 hours later 4933083 Anonymous
>>4933030 incoming quotes by that samefag

3 hours later 4933088 Anonymous
>>4933065 >communists >not jewish

3 hours later 4933110 Anonymous
Ya, all popular communist philosophers were jewish. But the soviets also killed 56million+ people via gulags and forced starvations. So saying marxism is "jewish" itself is probably considdered anti-semetic. so whatever, two plus two equals four. If I am guilty of spreading nazi propaganda i am ready to be censored in france and germany. If you are going to cuff me and throw away the key I am waiting.

3 hours later 4933125 Anonymous
>>4933110 >soviets also killed 56million+ people I've heard it was closer to 156+ million

3 hours later 4933129 Anonymous
>>4933125 Replace the m with a b filtyh commie.

3 hours later 4933139 Anonymous (jojo's goes ape.jpg 660x679 70kB)
>>4933125 >>4933129 Actually the Soviets killed everyone and secretly masterminded the Holocaust and did 9/11 and also Eve was a communist and the black plague was caused by centrally planned economics.

3 hours later 4933157 Anonymous
>>4933125 >>4933129 >>4933139 here is some research that puts numbers with citations if you are interested. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20 TH.HTM

3 hours later 4933187 Feminister
>>4933030 He was in Down and Out. Seems like his experience in Spain changed him there, though, because he saw "Trotskyist" was just a word for "Jew" (the posters the Stalnists did of Trotsky were Jew cartoons), and he was hunted for his unit supposed working for "Trotskyists". I think using the name "Goldberg" for the hateweek for Trotsky in 1984 says it all, really.

3 hours later 4933198 Anonymous
>>4933157 I'm not going to waste my time trying to tell you why a figure of 56 million is absurd. The fact that you even consider it betrays such an ignorance of demographics that all I can is direct you to the correction at the end of this article: http://www.macleans.ca/news/world/f inns-still-haunted-by-lenins-ghost/

3 hours later 4933202 Anonymous
>>4933110 >So saying marxism is "jewish" itself is probably considdered anti-semetic. It's not anti-semitic, it is fucking stupid and reveals that you are a fucking idiot for not being able/willing to grasp the contrast of a political theory and a religion.

4 hours later 4933225 Anonymous
>>4933198 I posted a link to a website published by Professor Emeritus of Political Science, University of Hawaii which is filled with citations and academic articles that documents 61million+ in the USSR. In response you post an anecdote from a second rate internet linkbate, listicle-generator like its a serious counterpoint go fuck yourself.

4 hours later 4933238 Anonymous
>>4933225 I could find you many historians (i.e. not political scientists) who find 10-20 million as that is the most common figure. Your source is not only 3 to 5 times as high but simply doesn't hold up to the most elementary scrutiny. What would the birth rate need to be to maintain such a death toll? Do the maths, rather than appealing to "authority".

4 hours later 4933240 Anonymous
>>4933225 sorry, no Soviet historian would accept anything near his numbers. he thinks that 40 million people died in gulags, which is twice the number of people that were ever in the system. it's baloney.

4 hours later 4933278 Anonymous
>>4933238 >appealing to "authority". next time I will try the appeal to linkbate approach. are you going to apologize for Hitler next? Or are you THAT politically biased you only apologize for mass murders that agree with you. go to town. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NO TE3.HTM inb4 - no he's spot on with hitler.

4 hours later 4933286 Anonymous
>>4933278 >are you going to apologize for Hitler next? Wat? >"America killed 200 million people in Iraq" >"That's clearly ridiculous and counter to the academic consensus" >"OH SO WHY DON'T YOU APOLOGISE FOR THE HOLOCAUST TOO"

4 hours later 4933314 Anonymous
>>4933286 you are attacking his credibility, not defending Stalin. So assuming, you arnt a blind marxist you would attack his numbers for hitler too. This is totally reasonable. >>4933240 here says 19+, I dont know where you got 40. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/US SR.TAB1B.GIF

4 hours later 4933341 Anonymous (USSR.FIG1.2.gif 367x459 5kB)
>>4933314 >So assuming, you arnt a blind marxist you would attack his numbers for hitler too. No, because his numbers for Hitler are correct and his numbers for the USSR are wildly exaggerated. >here says 19+, I dont know where you got 40. see pic

4 hours later 4933375 Anonymous
>>4933341 this is a different qualification of camp than simply gulag. the deportation number is including people awaiting deportation. "deportation" is only the 5m that died in transit. >No, because his numbers for Hitler are correct and his numbers for the USSR are wildly exaggerated. no, because you are a mass murder apologist.

4 hours later 4933382 Anonymous
>>4933375 > the "camps" number is including people awaiting deportation. fixed. and again, this coincides with this char which has additional citations. http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/US SR.TAB1B.GIF

4 hours later 4933390 Anonymous
>>4933375 >this is a different qualification of camp than simply gulag Gulag is an acronym for "administration of labour camps". >no, because you are a mass murder apologist. as per my example above: >"America killed 200 million people in Iraq" >"That is completely incorrect and counter to the academic consensus" >"YOU ARE APOLOGISING FOR MASS MURDER"

4 hours later 4933398 Anonymous
>>4933375 > you are a mass murder apologist. You think Stalin killed a quarter of his population whilst simultaneously conducting an extensive industrialisation policy and winning a world war. Does that not strike you as at least somewhat implausible? Generally, losing a quarter of a country's population would be catastrophic for both economic and military prospects. Especially when you consider that the victims were predominantly adult men, you have to ask what on Earth were the Soviets fighting Hitler with.

4 hours later 4933408 Anonymous
>>4933390 >died awaiting deporation means in a "labor" camp. I know because I speak comie this is what you get for reading listicles

4 hours later 4933418 Anonymous
>>4933408 About 6 million people were deported under the USSR. So to make up the extra 20 million people that died under "camps", they would have had to all have died waiting for deportation 3 times over. PLUS every single person that had been in the Gulag system would have had to have died as well. Seems legit.

4 hours later 4933422 Anonymous
>>4933398 >you have to ask what on Earth were the Soviets fighting Hitler with. as far as I understand pretty much anyone that could hold a gun. and I think if you read the histories, including the war it was more than a 1/4. And it did fuck them up economically, that much is indisputable.

4 hours later 4933431 Anonymous
>>4933418 You're talking out your ass. Ive got citations, you've got apologies and this shit. >http://www.macleans.ca/news/world/ finns-still-haunted-by-lenins-ghost /

5 hours later 4933451 Anonymous
>>4933431 >6 million people were deported http://books.google.co.uk/books?id= 8ktrYux1gTMC&pg=PA4&redir_esc=y#v=o nepage&q&f=false >20 million people were in the gulags http://books.google.co.uk/books?id= kewLQwngUSkC&q=passed+through&redir _esc=y#v=snippet&q=passed%20through &f=false so where does 40 million come from?

5 hours later 4933455 Anonymous
>>4933422 After the war the Soviet Union was the world's second superpower. Angus Maddison's figures, who unlike your source actually is an authority on his field, holds that the GDP/capita tripled during that period. Thus it is clear that whatever Stalin's death toll was, it was not high enough to cripple development. If he killed what you claimed, the birth rate would need to have been enormous.

5 hours later 4933575 Anonymous
>>4933187 Hang on, first of all Orwell wrote the following essay: http://orwell.ru/library/articles/a ntisemitism/english/e_antib Also Goldstein in 1984 is the probably fictitious head of "The Brotherhood" who were theoretically the rebellion against Big Brother, and therefore hardly an argument in favour of Orwell being an antisemite. Having said that though a little googling does suggest that he had "a marked dislike of Jews" as Christopher Hitchens put it. I'm inclinded to be somewhat charitable though. George Orwell was an honest man, he said that "An autobiography is only to be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful.", and “One way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary,”. None of his major works are tainted by antisemitism (although I stand ready to be corrected), and most of us if we are honest will admit some kind of prejudice in the privacy of our own heads. But he managed to keep it under wraps and not let it infect his public face.

5 hours later 4933582 Feminister
>>4933575 I was saying he was an argument AGAIN Orwell being an antisemite; I said he stopped being one after Spain because he experienced how Jews are used as scapegoats. Hate week references USSR antisemitism, that's why he made Trotsky's name so incredibly Jewish.

5 hours later 4933590 Anonymous
>>4933582 Reading comprehension fail. My apologies.

5 hours later 4933601 Anonymous
>>4933575 >Tainted >Infect I like how you seem to feel superior to people like Orwell or Ford for pointing out truths that used to be commonly held. You're a brainwashed fucking faggot and Orwell is churning in his grave over your bullshit.

6 hours later 4933638 Anonymous
>>4933601 I don't feel superior to Orwell. I can only hope I'm as honest with myself as he was, but I suspect I fall way short. Having said that plenty of people in Orwell's time had figured out that antisemitism was ridiculous and peculiarly vile in its effects. Which makes it so much stranger that Orwell, who was such a moral salient in general, harboured those views to some degree. So I think I can judge him outside of the context of his time on this one and say that unusually he comes up short. But hey nobody's perfect, I still count him as my favourite author. (p.s. obviously I'm fighting a losing battle with this one, but the word faggot is pretty offensive you know)

6 hours later 4933648 Anonymous
>>4933638 >Anti-semitism is ridiculous Jews control the media, the FED, and the rothschild banking dynasty. Israel is a rouge state that sells USA secrets to China despite being our ally and sunk the USS Liberty. The NSA freely shares our data with Israel. Israel has not signed the NNP Treaty and in fact has stated they will nuke the globe via the Samson Option if threatened. Jews control a wildly disparate proportion of wealth and use their resources to push all the of anti-white, anti-male SJW horseshit as of late. You'll stick your head in the sand over this of course. Hell you probably can't even identify Jewish names. They also mutilate and suck on infant penises and during Kaparot publicly torture chickens. You could also look up what Rabbi Ovadia Yousef (spirtual leader to millions!) says about goyim (non-jews). >Faggot is offensive No. It's not. I have grown up with plenty of gays and the word faggot does not bother them. Words are words, they are not magic spells. You're just a soft faggot. If something offends you that is your personal problem, not society's.

6 hours later 4933668 Anonymous
>>4933648 Not even going to touch the first bit. Contextualised use of the word faggot: sometimes okay. Random use of the word faggot in an already massively homophobic environment further reinforcing that permissive environment: kind of a dick move.

6 hours later 4933677 Anonymous
>>4933668 Cry more. I don't see the Germans taking issue to the term "vandal".

6 hours later 4933692 Anonymous
>>4933677 You honestly can't spot any differences in usage, history etc between the two words?

6 hours later 4933693 Feminister
>>4933601 Orwell was a stern critic of commonly held truths, all the more after his firsthand experienced of outright lying propaganda in Spain. Ford is almost synonymous with Taylorism, which is one of the major things that Zamtayin's "We"--a work closely related to 1984--was critiquing. Ford and Orwell are not good comparisons.

6 hours later 4933694 Anonymous
>>4933648 Nor him, but I'll bite. What is the jewish grand plan?

6 hours later 4933695 Anonymous
>>4933648 seek professional help

6 hours later 4933696 Anonymous
>>4933692 Sure. Vandal is derived from a Germanic tribe, and faggot from a bundle of sticks. So they have more right to be upset than you. Get that dick out of your ass and stop whining.

6 hours later 4933703 Feminister
>>4933696 So fascists are faggots?

6 hours later 4933711 Anonymous
>>4933703 If you head to /pol/ you will find it a common term of address there.

6 hours later 4933722 Anonymous
>>4933050 Napoleon was Stalin, who was non-Jewish

6 hours later 4933730 Anonymous
>>4933601 You ass, all of this is arguing in favor of the fact that Orwell was not anti-Semitic.

6 hours later 4933743 Anonymous
>Writing in the spring of 1945 a long essay titled "Antisemitism in Britain," for the Contemporary Jewish Record, Orwell stated that anti-Semitism was on the increase in Britain, and that it was "irrational and will not yield to arguments." He argued that it would be useful to discover why anti-Semites could "swallow such absurdities on one particular subject while remaining sane on others."[164] He wrote: "For quite six years the English admirers of Hitler contrived not to learn of the existence of Dachau and Buchenwald. ... Many English people have heard almost nothing about the extermination of German and Polish Jews during the present war. Their own anti-Semitism has caused this vast crime to bounce off their consciousness.

7 hours later 4933841 Anonymous
>>4933695 It's okay Anon, when I'm afraid of something I also bury my head in the sand.

10 hours later 4934524 Anonymous
>>4933398 >You think Stalin killed It said 1917-1987, retard.

10 hours later 4934541 Anonymous
>>4933398 To think of those terrible Brežnev era gulags...

11 hours later 4934748 Anonymous
>>4933694 There really isn't some centralized International Jewish Conspiracy™, just Jews doing what's good for the Jews.

12 hours later 4934950 Anonymous
>>4933648 Jew here. Your goy tears are delicious and you tax shekels (moar like shackles lol) will continue our Zionist movement. We really do own all of the money. I love it. I wake up every day and laugh at how "Political Correctness" is really a part of our own Agenda. You can do nothing but mewl to your blind goy brothers on 4chan. Hilarious. BTW, we killed your faggot god lol.

12 hours later 4934961 Anonymous
>>4933668 >Massively homophobic environment >/lgbt/ /b/ /gif/ /hm/ /d/ etc Wow you're one retarded fucking faggot

12 hours later 4934972 Anonymous (image.jpg 175x149 8kB)
>>4933668 >Not even going to touch the first bit Yeah because it's all objective facts and these curt dismissals are the only defense you have. It's also a proven fact that Israel pays college students to shitpost zionist propaganda. Is that "something you won't touch"? This and everything posted in >>4933648 Are not debatable. They are objective events and policies that occurred or are on-going. A simple search on any of these subjects will support what I say. Your sarcastic horseshit is nothing.

12 hours later 4934983 Anonymous
>>4934972 Lol post some evidence of these claims. Like, other than posts on stormfront and whatnot.

12 hours later 4934998 Anonymous (image.jpg 720x641 136kB)
>>4934983 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ world/2013/08/14/israel-students-so cial-media/2651715/ http://www.theguardian.com/world/20 13/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-da ta-israel-documents http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kappar ot http://www.timesofisrael.com/5-of-o vadia-yosefs-most-controversial-quo tations/ These are just surface links. As I said, anything I mentioned is easily searchable. Israel is also a haven for international Jewish criminals. An example could be Roman Polanski.

12 hours later 4935002 Feminister
>>4934998 >These are just surface links. As I said, anything I mentioned is easily searchable. Israel is also a haven for international Jewish criminals. An example could be Roman Polanski. Don't forget Meyer Lansky

13 hours later 4935087 Anonymous
>>4934998 None of this is really surprising. Paying students to write political posts? GOD NO. It's called propaganda. It's not right, but it's hardly unique to Israel. NSA bullshit is bullshit but it ain't unique to the jews. Governments do and have spied on their citizens forever. Kapparot: Whoop-de-doo. Look at modern day factory farming. The scale of suffering that animals undergo in these condition absolutely dwarves this practice. Hell, your own wikipedia article mentioned that other jews even fought against it and that it's rare today. This is why I don't take /pol/ jew-haters seriously. You guys are on par with 9/11 truthers. All you do is cherry-pick a few facts that makes the jews look bad and then act like it's totally unique criticism and doesn't appear anywhere else with different ethnicities and ideologies in slightly modified ways.

13 hours later 4935100 Anonymous
>>4934998 >>4934972 >>4933648 exactly when do the actions of one country make antisemitism okay? I'd say that both the US and Israel are generally in the wrong (esp as far as the Palestinian conflict goes), but this doesn't make antisemitism justified. all the other paranoid shit that's being posted is just insufferable

13 hours later 4935139 Anonymous
>>4934998 I believe this is relevant. Contains video directly from AIPAC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMB vrNOY5eE

14 hours later 4935155 Anonymous
>>4935100 Whatever man. Keep your eyes open on sensationalist identity politics bullshit. The authors are often jews. Fuck even Laurie Penny and Sarkesian. You can choose to remain blind but that's what your doing. >>4935087 Oh yeah lets race to the bottom because "everyone's doing it xD" . Fucking idiot.

14 hours later 4935167 Anonymous
>>4935155 this is just childish

14 hours later 4935172 Anonymous
>>4935167 You haven't refuted anything. Twice now you have responded with a half-heared ad hominem type deflection for the sake of doing so. You sure showed me.

14 hours later 4935177 Anonymous (gyro.png 257x484 41kB)
>>4935172 The refutation to your argument is pretty simple >Jews do bad things >non-Jews also do bad things >therefore Jews are not the sole cause of bad things

14 hours later 4935184 Anonymous
>>4935177 >I can vaguely state other bad things happen and that means we should never worry about all the whacky shit Israel does or the Samson Option or even anything else really lol You're fucking retarded. Flat out, you are a moron.

14 hours later 4935190 Anonymous (top sun.jpg 234x272 28kB)
>>4935184 >okay so every country in the world does these shitty things >let's focus on one country here

15 hours later 4935237 Anonymous
>>4933202 >Jewish Race >Religion rofl you just showed how "fucking stupid" you are yourself.

15 hours later 4935246 Anonymous
>>4934524 And if you look at his tables, 40 million of those are up to 1956, intelligent person.

15 hours later 4935250 Anonymous
>>4935190 >okay so every country in the world does these shitty things >let's focus on the one that's the major recipient of our military aid, as we could potentially do something about it

23 hours later 4936416 Anonymous
>>4935250 People criticize Israel in a rational way all the time. You're not helping that cause by becoming uncontrollably angry when people don't agree with your irrational of hatred of all jews.

23 hours later 4936434 Anonymous
>>4936416 Well luckily he's not me and your bullshit "hurrr hurr you're irrationally le mad xDDDD" doesn't make facts go away despite how easily such shaming tactics may work in your little indoctrinated cliques.

23 hours later 4936458 Anonymous
>>4932483 no

24 hours later 4936549 Anonymous
>>4936434 >your little indoctrinated cliques The irony here is just staggering.

24 hours later 4936578 Anonymous
>>4933050 >>4932878 >>4932483 The book isn't anti-semitic If anything, OP is for making such a connection to the pigs.

24 hours later 4936583 Anonymous
>>4936549 Again, you have nothing. You just try to be sarcastic and minimize truths and hope that you can paint me as ridiculous so others won't listen. You don't even attempt to argue against anything I've said because you know you can't. All you have is this bitchy nonsense that you've been taught through the media and other brainwashing institutions. It's really sickening how you can go through your life never realizing that you actually have no point. I just don't get it but there sure are a lot of you little robots around.

24 hours later 4936598 Anonymous
>>4936583 >paint me as ridiculous so others won't listen You seem to be doing a pretty good job of that yourself

24 hours later 4936613 Anonymous
>>4936598 You can just stop responding, idiot. All you do is prove me correct every time you continue this sarcastic bullshit. You can't address any of the facts stated so you just continue this meaningless bullshit that basically equivalents to "no lol xD". It's pretty pathetic to watch you all be the exact same retard with no argument. I would daresay even it's disgusting how little of a thought process you have.

24 hours later 4936616 Anonymous
>>4936583 >>4936613 I love you, crazy Jew-hating guy, and I hope you reply to this and call me something creatively insulting. :3

24 hours later 4936618 Anonymous
>>4936613 Equivocates*

24 hours later 4936632 Anonymous
>>4936616 >xDDDDDD Why are you proud to bask in ignorance? If I'm so objectively wrong it should be quite easy for you to disprove everything I've stated. Should I review my points for the nice lurkers on page 0? >>4933648 >>4934998 Those two posts contain what has you so mad. Links are included. I happily await your evidence to the contrary ;^)

24 hours later 4936641 Anonymous
>>4936583 Dude, you and your buddy seriously haven't said anything substantial. No one is saying your facts aren't true--you're using a handful of unsavory facts about a single group of people and acting as if those facts are completely unique. You're overestimating the jews in addition to confusing an entire ethnicity to a country. Never mind jews like Amy Goodman, Norman Finkelstein and Chomsky that adamantly spend huge portions of their lives critiquing Israel-American foreign policy with a rigorous academic integrity you couldn't muster if your life depended on it. You're blowing things way out of proportion and resorting to condescension each time someone tries to explain this to you and crying about "muh facts" when it's the CONCLUSIONS you draw from them that are so ridiculous. You have the tinfoil of a conspiracy theorist and the blind hate of a redneck.

24 hours later 4936661 Anonymous
>>4936641 >/pol/ in a nutshell.jpg

24 hours later 4936663 Anonymous
>>4936641 Noel Ignatiev comes to mind as well. As well as Ovadia Yosef. As I've already stated an enormous portion of anti-white/anti-male articles and books are written by jews. You just have to look a the surnames. I'm not the one who knee-jerk reacted by defending the Holy Chosen People and acted like a sarcastic retard who can't help but reply. All I have done is re-assert that you cannot disprove or minimize the facts so you ad-hominem me. You're still ad-homming now. You have nothing to gain by defending this. You are just programmed to do it. Please keep replying with sarcastic nothings and pretending nothing is a big deal because lol it's just not. It makes you seem so tolerant and cool!

24 hours later 4936669 Anonymous
>>4936663 To ad to this I've said nothing tinfoil and calling a spade a spade is not frothing hate. Again, you've just been trained to use this retarded emotional language and non-arguments like these to forestall debate on uncomfortable topics. You are intellectually dishonest and a total fucking faggot. It's pretty clear that I'm making no headway, so I'll see you next time you decide to reply to me for a dozen posts with nothing other than personal attacks and damage control. Maybe one day you'll realize how much of a fool you have been.

24 hours later 4936670 Anonymous
>>4936641 honestly it's better to ignore them at this point. they're just trying to recruit more alienated 12-year-olds to stormfront.

24 hours later 4936675 Anonymous
>>4936663 There wasn't an ounce of criticism in that post. We've already established that there are jews that write and do (arguably) unsavory stuff and those that write things you would probably agree with (like criticizing Israel) if your thinking wasn't purely dichotomous muddle-headedness. You HAVE reasserted your position several times, no one disagreement there either. It's a failure to defend it that's so laughable. I haven't tried to refute your handful of references and wikipedia/popular media links because they literally add up to nothing much. But go ahead and call me sarcastic again since you clearly have such a firm grasp of them term. (See, THAT was sarcasm, huehue.)

24 hours later 4936678 Anonymous
>>4936663 You have a bad case of Confirmation Bias and only see the things that support your negative viewpoint. One such as you would only look up the teachings of Shammai, while in reality a vast majority of Jews follow the teachings of Hillel the Elder.

24 hours later 4936693 Anonymous
>>4936670 /thread And to answer your question OP, maybe a little deep down, but not in any significant way, no.

24 hours later 4936694 Anonymous
>>4936675 But you're the one asserting things here. The other side is saying "maybe it's dumb to blame Jews exclusively when we've seen all ethnic and religious groups do these things". You're disputing that. So provide some evidence. Stop pissing about with wordplay and personal insults and give us some substance.

26 hours later 4936970 Anonymous
>>4933648 >Jews control the media... Okay, go on then, I'll bite. Prove it.

26 hours later 4936986 Anonymous
>>4936970 They openly control the media dumbass. It's not even a secret. Warner brothers, spielberg, wachowski brothers, bruckenhiemer, cohen brothers, eisner etc. Never mind even talentless hacks like Ben Stiller and Sarah Silverman and John "the racebaiter" Liebowitz continue to get work. I'd like to re-itterate that I suspect most of you "skeptics" couldn't identify a jew even if they were named Yoav Shamir. You can easily find jews admitting this and there is even an article with a jew commenting on the phenomena of being proud if their media-influence yet calling anyone who dares mention it an anti-semite. I would waste my time googling it but you're already formulating non-reasons for why everything I have already said is irrelevant or somehow "not true". I'm very happy you're all so full of yourselves for being ignorant. Tolerance is a truly wonderful thing.

26 hours later 4936996 Anonymous
>>4936986 You're talking about influence not control. There are jews in the media. Yes. Does that equate to control? No.

26 hours later 4937012 Anonymous
>>4936996 >Who cares if so many production studios and directors are jewish they don't actually have any influence xD You don't even know who John Liebowitz is. Fucking moron. And you're happy to be one, too.

26 hours later 4937024 Anonymous
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews -do-control-the-media/

26 hours later 4937033 Anonymous
God, is /pol/ on a field day again or is summer starting? This thread is just downright terrible...

26 hours later 4937041 Anonymous
>>4937033 Yes I know, it must be awful realizing that you have no rebuttal but feeling like you need to keep vaguely defending something that doesn't benefit you in anyway. Take back control of your own mind, man. Christ.

26 hours later 4937049 Anonymous
>>4937012 I'm not saying they don't have influence, I'm saying that that's not the same as contol. It's that simple. And not having an encyclopedic knowledge of a foreign country's minor public figures hardly makes me a moron. Oddly though as a conspiracy theorist I don't think you are a moron. I'm often impressed at the depth of the conspiracy theorist's knowledge. What is normally lacking is the breadth of knowledge and the ability to put what they know in a larger context. This is a perfect example. You've latched onto a theory "jews control the media", and you've searched out every scrap of evidence, probably quite thoroughly that supports that theory. But ignored the tens of thousands of people in the media who aren't jews, and their collosal level of influence.

26 hours later 4937065 Anonymous
>>4937049 I like how you admit you're just taking a shot in the dark and then just shit out a bunch of stuff you made up. You realize even fucking James Franco is jewish, right? You know all the shit on Nickelodeon with the sexualization of kids? Yeah that's thanks to Dan Schnieder. You know how the Disney Channel is doing the same shit? Yeah that's Michael Eisner. You know who produced Jersey Shore? A jew. You know who owns viacom? Sumner Redstone. What do we think Mr. Redstone is? No but I'm sure with your vast knowledge of jack shit you must be correct.

26 hours later 4937072 Anonymous
>>4937065 All those people are Americans.

26 hours later 4937078 Anonymous
>>4937072 I'm glad you've decided to concede. Considering that you have no point to make, it's probably the best for all of us.

26 hours later 4937086 Anonymous
>>4937078 That's not really a conspiracy though, is it? All Americans want to take over the world. Openly. Installing puppet regimes, MKULTRA experiments, NSA spying, drug running through the CIA, Hollywood propaganda. Those aren't Jewish things, they're American. It just so happens that some Americans are Jews, and you're too blind to see what's really going on because you're just another ignorant sheep.

26 hours later 4937089 Anonymous
>>4937065 Y'know who watched Jersey Shore? Millions of Americans. Did the Jews hypnotize millions of people and make them support a shitty show?

26 hours later 4937097 Anonymous
>>4937086 >>4937086 >Bad things happen so other bad things shouldn't happen Jews are 2% of the US population and highly overrepresented in media and politics. A lot of our campaigns in the middle east concern Israel's well-being. You're just trying to divert that fact that I'm correct because you don't like it. Why? What do you gain from fighting the truth so hard? It's possible you actually are jewish but goyim do this regardless. You mention the NSA but again their data is shared openly with Israel. And you don't want to get into MKULTRA. I am a pedowood OP. I have more information on this subject that you ever realized existed. Regardless of the USA israel as jewish people influence media and policy for their benefit and the detriment of others. You can try to sweep it under the rug all you like but that is what you are doing.

26 hours later 4937100 Anonymous
>>4937041 You back to fucking /pol/, seriously. If you are a hammer, of course, all you see is nails. If your absurd core belief is that "the jews", i.e. all jews, regardless of age, gender, sexual orientation, occupation, political stance etc. are responsible for all vaguely bad things in the world and that they all work together in some kind of convoluted scheme, merely because you say so and because certain groups with Judaism as established religion share several (!) genetic pools, because those groups were ostracised some centuries ago from the respective mainstream societies without giving the individual member of those collectives today any chance to break free and to stop being jewish (because dur, Jews are a race and he will always work for the Jewish cause lol!), then yes, fuck you! If it is race then what is it with all the other semite races? Why aren't they that bad? >Take back control of your own mind, man. Christ. How have you asshole control of your own mind, when you fail at basic logic and common sense?

26 hours later 4937101 Anonymous
still waiting eagerly to a mod to delete this fucking thread

26 hours later 4937102 Anonymous
>>4937065 You're takling to multiple people. >>4937072 >All those people are Americans This is not me. Anyway, I propose an experiment. We take say the 20 largest media companies by market capitalisation and then we look up who each of their CEOs are and then we look up their ethnic/religious background and come back and compare notes? Feel free to suggest adjustments, I feel like it's a little vague really.

26 hours later 4937104 Anonymous
>>4937089 Yes. That's exactly what happened. Now go watch game of thrones and remember the 600 trillion. I don't give a fuck anymore how it sounds when you call television "brainwashing". That's what it is and pussy footing around an issue never helped anyone >Inb4 fake patricians on the literature board defend television with their very soul

26 hours later 4937106 Anonymous
>>4937097 Actually you're wrong, I have more information than YOU ever knew existed. 98% of the US population are not Jews. When was there last a Jewish president? If Hollywood wasn't doing what the government wanted they wouldn't exist. It's pretty obviously just America being American. Stop looking for scapegoats, you're the bad guy.

26 hours later 4937110 Anonymous
>>4937100 You can't refute anything I said but you still type this nice paragraph to let me know how upset you are about it. How cute.

26 hours later 4937114 Anonymous
>>4937110 Nice to see that you are unable to grasp the basic criticism of your position. Well, at least you can continue hating the evil jews and feeling better about yourself, right?

26 hours later 4937120 Anonymous
>>4937106 You've said nothing at all and the director of the CIA or the FED is often jewish. >No I have more than u xDDDD >UR BAD I do have to say it's adorable you think you know more about shady government ops and mind-control than me when you don't even understand that hollywood production is jewish. >If hollywood wasn't doing what the government wanted they wouldn't be around Well your argument has become "the USA is evil" so you just shot off your own cock. You people are unbelievably retarded

26 hours later 4937123 Anonymous
>>4937114 Please anon-kun, be impotent online more! That will make those mean ol' facts go away! If only you can make me feel sad inside, like a true progressive.

26 hours later 4937124 Anonymous
>>4937104 You are so fucking stupid I honestly don't think you will ever see it. It's the concept of the lowest common denominator and it's been around forever. Junk has always sold well. But OH he found some Jew playing to the market with a trashy reality TV show so the Jews are brainwashing everyone. Keep calling everyone brainwashed and declaring yourself right though you delusional chach.

26 hours later 4937129 Anonymous
>>4937120 I think it's adorable that you seem incapable of understanding when someone's satirising your baseless assumptions. The directors of the CIA and FED are always American. Nice one, retard.

26 hours later 4937132 Anonymous
>>4937124 The father of modern advertising is a jew names Edward Berneys. He wrote a book about his techniques called propaganda. You also never managed to disprove anything I said, so you're just letting off steam because you're mad that you like television like a good little goy.

26 hours later 4937136 Anonymous
>>4937102 Awaiting a response to this.

26 hours later 4937139 Anonymous
>>4937129 >American institutions are american, checkmate atheists Mother of god. How can you willingly be this stupid, and fight so desperately to remain so?

26 hours later 4937140 Anonymous
>>4937123 Yes I know, it must be awful realizing that you have no rebuttal but feeling like you need to keep restort to pathetic namecalling. Take back control of your own mind, man. Christ

26 hours later 4937141 Anonymous
>>4937136 $20 he's too chicken shit to respond or if he does he namedrops a random jew and calls you brainwashed without an argument.

27 hours later 4937145 Anonymous
>>4937139 You really don't understand the point I made earlier, do you? I can see this argument is just going to go in circles so I'll just point you back at >>4937086 and you can read through it all over and over until it makes sense.

27 hours later 4937153 Anonymous
>>4937136 >I propose an experiment: >No, you do it all xD Look faggot, if you don't understand that Bruckenhiemer, Warner Brothers, Spielberg, Disney, Viacom, etc are THE media heavy-weights, you're ignorant. If you think I'm going to partake in your retarded little scenario YOU SUGGESTED when the evidence is overwhelmingly in my favor you're an entitled moron. The information has been presented. Repeatedly. If you want to learn more, you're on the internet. If you want to keep being a sarcastic, empty-headed faggot then you can join these other two chimps in throwing shit at my strawman some more. Have fun being idiots. Not so much the guy I'm quoting here necessarily but you other guys are truly despicable scum. Such shameless glorification of ignorance and pride is repugnant. Enjoy not having any points and defending a group for no reason.

27 hours later 4937155 Anonymous
>>4937136 The response is >>4937072 Maybe not all, but the majority. There you have it. The US is pure, unadulterated evil. $20 says it weighs as much as a duck.

27 hours later 4937162 Anonymous
>>4937153 I'm not denying that there are a lot of jews in the media, what I'm saying is that they hardly make up a majority, and they don't have some coherent set of beliefs that they are working towards. Refusing to put your beliefs to risky experiment is another of the hallmarks of the conspiracy theorist. Sorry.

27 hours later 4937333 Anonymous
>>4937162 >and they don't have some coherent set of beliefs that they are working towards. Feminism, gun control, multiculturalism, and being pro-Israel seems common.

28 hours later 4937424 Anonymous
>>4937333 Except most conservatives are pro-Israel and rabidly anti gun-control, feminism and multicultutralism while the opposite is true for liberals. And again, all of these isms have a diverse array of proponents including and certainly not exclusive to Jews.

28 hours later 4937452 Anonymous
>>4937333 will you stop being so helplessly American, /pol/

28 hours later 4937463 Anonymous
>>4935184 I agree with you that Israel is not a perfect state and all that, but do you really think that all Jews are born evil or something?

28 hours later 4937478 Anonymous
>>4937424 >>4937452 I am not the guy your were arguing with and I am abandoning this thread.

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