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2014-03-23 12:57 4690119 Anonymous (thisisengland.png 389x340 305kB)
Are there any books on skin heads/right-wing extremists? Preferably fiction.

1 min later 4690125 Anonymous
>>4690119 turner diaries also that kids shoes looked retarded, he should have gotten the docs

2 min later 4690128 Anonymous
>>4690119 You mean apart from the Birmingham School? http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/Documen ts/college-artslaw/history/cccs/ste ncilled-occasional-papers/1to8and11 to24and38to48/SOP23.pdf

2 min later 4690129 Anonymous
>>4690119 That movie was great.

8 min later 4690147 Anonymous
Atlas Shrugged

8 min later 4690148 Anonymous
>>4690125 >turner diaries Well color me surprised. Who'd have thought /pol/ wrote a book. But I was thinking more of stories like in OPs pic.

10 min later 4690155 Anonymous
>>4690129 The TV series is even better. Possibly.

11 min later 4690156 Anonymous
>>4690148 So a cosy multicultural celebration? Just watch American History X.

12 min later 4690164 Anonymous
>>4690129 >shooone

15 min later 4690169 Anonymous
>>4690156 >So a cosy multicultural celebration? Just watch American History X. Eh... I was rather thinking of something that actually took these people and analyzes their extremism embedded in a nice story full of racism, violence and /pol/-tier conspiracy theories.

20 min later 4690178 Anonymous
>The Wave Does this count?

21 min later 4690182 Anonymous
>>4690178 By Todd Strasser if that clarifies.

25 min later 4690192 Anonymous (americanhistoryx.jpg 500x273 25kB)
>>4690156 >has a sympathetic neo-nazi protagonist >one of the few movies presenting race conflict in a realistic, mature way >cosy multicultural celebration Seriously, you can watch that movie and think of Norton's character as a foolish traitor and it would be just as valid.

27 min later 4690196 Anonymous
>>4690169 If you haven't seen it OP American History X sounds exactly like what you're describing. It is not at all a cozy multicultural celebration. Far, far from it, it just leaves what happens open to interpretation.

28 min later 4690198 Anonymous
>>4690192 >Seriously, you can watch that movie and think of Norton's character as a foolish traitor and it would be just as valid. Yeah, if your awareness, attention, cognitive and interpretative skills are stunted, I guess you could.

32 min later 4690210 Anonymous (1338951548051.gif 176x144 1897kB)
>>4690178 Well yeah I guess. But I kind of already know that one. >mfw I remember that part on Doom in "Give a Boy a Gun" while playing Brutal Doom a while ago >>4690196 Yeah I've seen it. That and Romper Stomper, which for some reason pissed me off. Can't even say why.

52 min later 4690246 Anonymous
>>4690198 In the original ending, far his brother hot shot, he went home and shaved his head.

56 min later 4690256 Anonymous
>>4690246 Is that just an alternative script ending? I heard of that a long time ago but I don't think I ever found any filmed material.

56 min later 4690257 Anonymous
>>4690246 would have made the movie twice as good.

58 min later 4690260 Anonymous (perplex.jpg 400x400 16kB)
>>4690255 Do you even know what we are actually talking about?

58 min later 4690261 Anonymous
>>4690256 From what I understand that was the actual final cut but the producers had it changed because they didn't like the message it sent.

1 hours later 4690266 Anonymous
>>4690255 >Hater of jews, doubter of niggers 8 year "oldfag" reporting in. Opinion disregarded for being severely subhuman.

1 hours later 4690271 Anonymous (youlookprettygood.jpg 403x403 20kB)
>>4690269 Do you even know what OP is talking about?

1 hours later 4690273 Anonymous
>>4690246 Yes, the vicious circle starts anew and no easy answers provided. You are still a potato if you interpret that in defense of his past, and not a tragedy.

1 hours later 4690275 Anonymous
>>4690261 >producers >schemingmerchant.jpg

1 hours later 4690282 Anonymous
>>4690275 Americans don't buy movie tickets to think. It has nothing to do with schemes and everything to do with consumer wants; with you and your stupid family.

1 hours later 4690285 Anonymous
>>4690275 Basically. >>4690282 Sure thing Mr. Shekelberg. The anger and baseless anti-americanism in your post really makes me believe that's what it was about.

1 hours later 4690287 Anonymous
>>4690285 >implying bad endings haven't ruined financial success and/or public relations of producing companies What is Mass Effect 3?

1 hours later 4690290 Anonymous
>>4690287 The original ending wasn't bad though. And you're a fucking idiot if you think the ending was all that was wrong with ME3.

1 hours later 4690294 Anonymous
>>4690285 America is Israel's greatest ally, who's the real merchant here? Zionism feeds on neo nazis and blatant anti-semitism

1 hours later 4690297 Anonymous
>>4690290 The ending would have been massively unpopular. Just look at movies like Romper Stomper that leave a pissy taste in your mouth as you leave the movie theater. Can't make money with that. Christ, it's not like this is the only movie where that ever happened you gonzo. Look at Army of Darkness. And even if ME3 had more flaws than just the ending, do you really think biodrones wouldn't have eaten that shit up? It was the ending that killed it.

1 hours later 4690311 Anonymous
>>4690297 >The ending would have been massively unpopular. I disagree. >Just look at movies like Romper Stomper that leave a pissy taste in your mouth as you leave the movie theater. Never watched Romper Stomper but X's original ending was thematically elegant in a way only the heebiest jew would have a problem with. >Can't make money with that. An upleasant (not the same thing as bad) ending has never stopped a movie from doing well at the box office. Just look at Se7en. >Look at Army of Darkness. That ending actually was flawed. While amusing it was unsatisfying for what was essentially an action movie. >And even if ME3 had more flaws than just the ending, do you really think biodrones wouldn't have eaten that shit up? The biodrones ate it up ending and all.

15 hours later 4691998 Anonymous
>>4690119 read american hardcore it's about the hardcore punk scene...it also has alot to do with skin heads and has a section specifically about that, if i recall correctly but also it's non-fiction

15 hours later 4692031 Anonymous
Rainbow Stories by William Vollman features neo-Nazi skinheads, but it features a whole lot of other stuff as well.

24 hours later 4694382 Anonymous (Unknown 17-07-13.jpg 177x285 8kB)
I found this one extremely disturbing, but well written, and made a good stab at being objective.

24 hours later 4694397 Anonymous
Are you talking about organized crime, or just people who like to demonstrate?

24 hours later 4694400 Anonymous (9780307779847_p0_v1_s260x420.jpg 255x420 27kB)
>>4694397 If it's the former, then pic related

24 hours later 4694443 Anonymous
>skinheads >right-wing extremists pick one.

24 hours later 4694449 Anonymous
>>4694443 ?? You can't be both?

24 hours later 4694464 Anonymous
>>4694449 Maybe he's talking about bonehead vs skinhead in punk culture, where (historically) the former is neofascist and the latter leftist. Popular culture associates "skinhead" with "racist skinhead", however.

24 hours later 4694467 Anonymous
>>4694449 Skinheads have the biggest persecution complex about being called racists. Most of them are just whiny assholes who like shitty music and bitch about how society hates them because of the way they look.

24 hours later 4694509 Anonymous
>>4694467 Yeah, but >right-wing extremist doesn't always mean racist.

24 hours later 4694559 Anonymous
>>4694509 Theoretically you could have a right-wing ideology that doesn't /prescribe/ racism, it may even argue its theory would end racism (eg: American Conservatives say this), but rightism necessarily upholds already existing racism and provides it with ideological cover (eg: how American Conservatives redefine racism as a mere 'feeling of hatred' and preserve most of the socio-economic system that kept and keeps certain races from representation in government and mobility in society), or else creates a new system of racism (as in reactionary and fascist ideology).

24 hours later 4694564 Anonymous
>>4690246 That would be completely redundant, though, because what >>4690273 describes already happened in the story, anyway. Adding Norton's character going back to being a Nazi isn't necessary to complete the circle, we've already seen hate breed hate.

24 hours later 4694583 Anonymous
>>4690148 >wants to read an extremist work >surprised its like /pol/, a board full of extremists of one kind or another What did you expect? Did you want you want some hard right-wing fiction or not?

24 hours later 4694598 Anonymous
>>4694559 >rightism necessarily upholds already existing racism How would this occur? As far as I know even the original breed of Italian fascism only adopted the Nazi's anti-semitic race-focused drivel later in the war in order to snuggle up with Hitler

24 hours later 4694609 Anonymous
>>4694598 He was saying it upholds existing racism, not that it creates new racism. If the Italians weren't big on racism then they didn't have much racism to uphold, did they?

24 hours later 4694611 Anonymous
>>4694609 Ah, I understand. Thank you for clarifying

25 hours later 4694697 Anonymous
>>4694611 Not him, but it's this sort of magnanimous response that makes me have some faith in /lit/.

25 hours later 4694723 Anonymous
>>4694509 It always means something along those lines, be they race, blood, class, gender, or whatever else.

25 hours later 4694768 Anonymous
>>4694723 Bit crude to equate racism with what arguably are more reasonable non-egalitarian perspectives. Not all notions of hierarchy are necessarily nonsensical.

25 hours later 4694788 Anonymous
>>4694768 Alliance theory works the same no matter how you look at it, chum.

26 hours later 4694809 Anonymous
>>4694788 I'd say it's inevitable and therefore preferably practised with some sense than going wild with it, friend.

32 hours later 4695839 Anonymous
>>4690119 mishima, runaway horses

32 hours later 4695845 Anonymous
>>4694809 I don't see why your idea on what a ruling alliance should be build on, is particularly better than any other.

35 hours later 4696126 Anonymous
american skin by don de grazia

36 hours later 4696322 Anonymous
Vollmann - Rainbow Stories One of those is about skinheads

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