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2014-01-08 09:16 4451604 Anonymous (1360353638221.png 211x246 10kB)
>go to book store >classics section >1984 in front view >look around the shelves >guy approaches >picks up 1984 >sit in bus >girl in front reading something >peek over the seat >WAR IS PEACE etc. >talk with friend >'yeah, it's like in that book, 1984' >'communism and stuff' Can we just ban this book for a couple of years? It's getting fucking annoying, it just encourages political apathy since everyone believes that they've been redpilled (there, it even forced me to quote pol).

6 min later 4451613 Anonymous (brave new world vs 1984.jpg 460x3669 545kB)
>>4451604 Don't forget Brave New World! Truly the most insightful literature of our time. Never forget to compare them when the other comes up either, if possible post or explain pic related too. They are so relevant to our time though, i mean, just look at current politics, it's basically 1984!

8 min later 4451619 Anonymous
>>4451604 >red pill >spurdo image >Wants to ban books >angry people enjoy_______ Yep cancer by numbers

11 min later 4451622 Anonymous
>>4451619 oh go away people who think 1984 is relevant political commentary are fucking idiots, OP is right >muh tyranny >muh slippery slope >muh deep thoughts heaven forbid any truly critical examination of the foundations of mainstream american ideologies

14 min later 4451627 Anonymous
>>4451622 >Muh______ You are infected too

17 min later 4451636 Anonymous
>>4451627 Not him, but to be honest I love 'muh'. It's basically a very easily approachable introduction to David Hume.

18 min later 4451638 Anonymous
>>4451604 how do books encourage political apathy?

19 min later 4451643 Anonymous
>>4451627 1) cancer isn't an infection 2) i fucking hate /pol/ 3) refusing to engage with the substance of an argument is more indicative of /pol/ cancer than anything else

23 min later 4451654 Anonymous
>>4451613 1984 is shit and painfully simple, aged badly and reads like a young adult book. I would argue BNW, while being entry level, is more sophisticated and worth re-reading every now and then, trust nigga.

24 min later 4451655 Anonymous
>>4451643 what substance, what argument? Looks like shitposting to me.

24 min later 4451659 Anonymous
>>4451638 People get the belief that they've reached the ultimate political truth, and that is that any political action will ultimately lead to exploitation, so they quite conveniently choose to just sit back and criticize anyone doing anything, thus (ironically) helping the very exploitation that they are 'trying' to prevent.

26 min later 4451662 Anonymous
>>4451659 Give them Bakunin then.

27 min later 4451664 Anonymous (noobie.jpg 233x340 22kB)
>mfw someone near me says 'yeah, it's like in that book, 1984'

28 min later 4451670 Anonymous
>>4451654 aged badly in what respect? both bnw and 1984 do have themes relevant to modern society, neither are particularly brilliant literature but i see no harm in teenagers reading them and hopefully considering some ideas >>4451659 this is more the current narrative than what a book will do to someone

30 min later 4451674 Anonymous
>>4451664 God forbid you engage them in conversation rather than bearing a sardonic expression on your face. Only later to shitpost memes on a board with more idiots and trolls than /v/. But whatever chief.

33 min later 4451683 Anonymous
>>4451670 >this is more the current narrative than what a book will do to someone This I agree with, but I believe that this specific book serves to reinforce this view more than most others. People read it with our current context in mind and see what they expect to see.

33 min later 4451684 Anonymous
>>4451670 Aged in terms of prose and delivery of its message. Everything in 1984 is spelled out for the reader. BN is more likely to spark up a discussion, ergo is more encouraging >implying it's dystopia.

35 min later 4451692 Anonymous
>>4451654 >I'm such a big boy please look at me

36 min later 4451696 Anonymous
>>4451670 You there we don't take kindly here to people who show maturity, intelligence, tolerance, and reason! Seriously what are you doing in this place. Thanks for adding good material to improve the quality of this thread.

39 min later 4451705 Anonymous
>hey anon, did u read a clockwork orange? >yeh man >is it good? >its pretty good, did u? >nah i want to read it >becareful its quite hard, it has its own vocabularly so thats hard to get over at first >yeah so does brave new world >(no faggot) so have you started the classics? >yeah i read lots of classics >which ones? >1984 >kl

42 min later 4451714 Anonymous
>>4451683 well sure, but it's baby's first politicised novel generally, and they'll be reading it when they can't vote >>4451684 well yes orwell is a polemical writer who turned his hand to fiction whereas as huxley is a fairly good writer all things considered you're probably right that bnw can provoke a more metaphysical debate, but 1984 is very useful in my mind to warn against totalitarianism, obviously Stalinist style policies, and is haunting any discussions about data surveillance by the NSA or even Facebook and Google

45 min later 4451722 Anonymous
>>4451714 See >>4451696

45 min later 4451723 Anonymous
>>4451714 >well sure, but it's baby's first politicised novel generally, and they'll be reading it when they can't vote I've forgot to mention the age of the people in the OP. First one was in 30s, the other in 20s, and the third is a student. That was basically the reason for me to think about it in the first place. (now you might be referring to it as being compulsory reading in school, which is not the case where I live)

45 min later 4451724 Anonymous
>>4451613 Could it be..... ....that they were both right to an extent?

47 min later 4451730 Anonymous (1379798436859.jpg 150x177 23kB)
>>4451705 omg anon god forbid u engage them in conversation rather than shitposting memes >>4451674 forgive me anon for i have sinned sorry i am not as righteous as you are if you want hugs and kisses find a different site 1984 is figuratively as unambiguous as you get, there is nothing to discuss, and especially with someone who unironically compares their current living situation to 1984

52 min later 4451745 Anonymous
>>4451723 be glad people read. Once curiosity and free thinking stops, people become indifferent and subservient. then dystopia becomes reality. I wouldn't want to live in a world without books and individuality. >Fahrenheit 451 in this bitch! We>1984

53 min later 4451749 Anonymous
>>4451613 What if the 1984 oppressors are congregating while we're currently wasting away in our Brave New World hmmmmmmm? In other words 1984 is still being manifested but hasn't arrived yet

56 min later 4451760 Anonymous
>>4451745 wow we truly are the chosen elite who reads wish more people were as sane and free thinking as me if people dont they are pretty dumb when they read twitter i read ayn rand when they post on youtube i post on /r/books i was born in the wrong generation i want high schoolers to go

56 min later 4451762 Anonymous
>>4451730 You might find people more interesting than you find yourself one day. I admit you made me lol and smile though.

1 hours later 4451784 Anonymous
>>4451760 oh wow. I've graduated university with two degrees, I'm 24. I don't post YouTube comments and have never been on reddit either. truth is I was on /lit/ when it left for a while sadly nothing much has changed it's /v/ with books I just want to contribute to threads and help out. what's your story?

1 hours later 4451791 Anonymous
>>4451784 *on /lit/ when it first started, been on 4chan since 07.

1 hours later 4451805 Anonymous
>>4451622 >2013 >a novel that predicted 1984 remains relevant gee whiz excuse me ur 2smart

1 hours later 4451823 Anonymous
>>4451613 >why is everybody reading relevant literature!!

1 hours later 4451827 Anonymous
>>4451636 >It's basically a very easily approachable introduction to David Hume. Jesus Christ. You people have lost your minds.

1 hours later 4451839 Anonymous
>>4451784 then why are you acting like such a tool >be glad people read No. Stop acting like the act reading is saving our society. The fact that someone reads books means fuckall. Just because you read doesn't mean you are a free thinking prophet and everyone who doesn't loses his individualism. >Once curiosity and free thinking stops, people become indifferent and subservient wow smart spoken like a true auteur >I wouldn't want to live in a world without books and individuality no way i dont want to live on this planet anymore :^D

1 hours later 4451847 Anonymous
>>4451827 >what is humor

1 hours later 4451851 Anonymous
>>4451839 I love the aggression on this site. I know some people hate it but I always end up laughing when I come here. And sometimes I learn something.

1 hours later 4451856 Anonymous
>ban 1984 >people start making Fahrenheit 451 comparisons, gotta ban that too >people start to panic and burn all their books to be safe >rampant anti-intellectualism, professors are publicly executed as students face mob violence >weed never gets legalized no thanks

1 hours later 4451861 Anonymous
>>4451604 It's a good book, just because it's popular and some people don't understand it and act like they do doesn't degrade it's actual value. If you've read enough to be posting you shouldn't act like a fucking hipster.

1 hours later 4451863 Anonymous
>>4451827 I'm assuming the guy was kidding, but you can't deny some similarities between muh and the bundle theory.

1 hours later 4451868 Anonymous (image.jpg 391x604 38kB)
>>4451839 Ugh please stop trying to troll. You are making me cringe. Have a good one! I honeslty wish you the best anon. Even if you are a silly person online.

1 hours later 4451875 Anonymous
>>4451622 whyre you considering american ideologies when talking about a book written by a british man who had an axe to grind against the soviet union?

1 hours later 4451878 Anonymous (image.jpg 800x800 51kB)
>>4451851 Likewise me morocco mole!

1 hours later 4451893 Anonymous
>>4451861 ITT: OP proves he's the world's special snowflake

1 hours later 4451900 Anonymous
>>4451868 >making me cringe Too bad mate. Why are you passive agressive? Why do you assume everyone who does not share your opinion is a troll? >kill your television Why would I destroy one of the greatest inventions of the past century? >it makes u stoopid and brainwashes you, unlike muh books Blame yourself for watching garbage, not television. When someone brings you shit on a plate it doesn't mean you have to eat it.

1 hours later 4451922 Anonymous
>>4451900 How is wishing you a good life being passive agressive? You are doing that Strawman wither you think you have an actual argument or you are a troll. I don't want to insult your intelligence or bruise your ego so I say troll. But let's put all this behind us anyways so what to do like to do when your not on 4chan. I love playing the piano, drinking absinthe, and the outdoors, and of course reading, among other things. Want to be buds? I'm a genuine person, and quite gregarious.

1 hours later 4451927 Anonymous
>>4451922 *Whether Anyways my offer still stands.

1 hours later 4451954 Anonymous
>>4451922 Nah I'm good. Naming a beverage as something that defines you kind of discouraged me. Also the fact that you put the letter S at the end of the word anyway.

1 hours later 4451978 Anonymous
>>4451954 Sorry you feel that way, I would have looked past how shallow and condescending you are and hope for the best. Hope you have a full-filling life, may you never go wanting. I shall now end my posting in this thread.

2 hours later 4452002 Anonymous (1862404-biffo.jpg 543x640 47kB)
>>4451978 Not nearly as shallow as saying " I wouldn't want to live in a world without books" I kid, I kid. Honest advice: You should leave this site. Not because you're not welcome here, but because you seem like a relatively normal person that thinks being nice to someone anonymous insulting you over the internet will do you any good. Don't waste yourself on 4chan.

2 hours later 4452012 Anonymous
>>4451922 >your not >comma splice >careless attempt at mimicking structure ehhhhh 2/10 not even the same guy. booooooo

2 hours later 4452021 Anonymous
>>4452002 Ugh you're stupid too, that guy trolled the shit out of you. Now you're patronizing a guy who is horrendously pretending to be somebody else? Everyone in this thread should be ASHAMED.

2 hours later 4452036 Anonymous
>>4452002 How the fuck did you think that he was serious when he said he liked to drink absinthe?

2 hours later 4452044 Anonymous (1357528404781.jpg 397x411 49kB)
>That feel when 1984 has become political shorthand for "I don't like this" >That feel when Orwell's own work has become the kind of hackneyed expression that he railed against in his essays >The system has patronized him to death and then assimilated the corpse

2 hours later 4452045 Anonymous
inb4 jokes on you

2 hours later 4452054 Anonymous (image.jpg 960x720 250kB)
>>4452036 You are adorable.

2 hours later 4452055 Anonymous (landofthefree.png 400x410 225kB)
>>4452036 Not him, but is it true absinthe is illegal in 'murca? >legal drinking age is 21 Why are american's so scared of alcohol?

2 hours later 4452058 Anonymous
>>4452044 I just wish people would read the rest of his works.

2 hours later 4452079 Anonymous
>>4452054 >not blue/green why even bother

2 hours later 4452080 Anonymous
>>4452055 It is not true

2 hours later 4452103 Anonymous
>>4452055 It varies by state. My state, NC, just legalized it a few years ago. It is still illegal to sell liquor on Sundays or any alcohol before noon on Sunday.

2 hours later 4452112 Anonymous
>>4452079 Two vertes and one amazing Blanche bro. Blue "absinthe" is not real absinthe, it's czechsinthe or crapsinthe. And both American/European absinthes are real, it was relegalized in America in 2007. Thujone has nothing to do with anything it's a convulsant in high doses, you will not trip balls and you never set it on fire.

2 hours later 4452115 Anonymous
>>4452112 i'm czech. i thought blue absinthe was proper. what.

2 hours later 4452116 Anonymous
>>4452079 Maison Fountains is one of the finest blanches. I usually go verge but had to pick it up. They have a verge version too.

2 hours later 4452121 Anonymous
>>4452116 *fountaine Cest l'huere verte!

2 hours later 4452129 Anonymous
>>4452044 >That feel when Orwell's own work has become the kind of hackneyed expression that he railed against in his essays It's actually pretty funny

2 hours later 4452137 Anonymous
>>4452115 >Czechs... proper absinthe LA Grenouille is the only proper czech absinthe. It's your only redemption. You started setting your czechsinth on fire in the 90's and caused damage to absinthe's image by releasing swill labeler as absinthe along the way.

3 hours later 4452217 Anonymous
>>4451868 >Televison

3 hours later 4452233 Anonymous
>>4452058 This. Many of his essays are actually really good. My favorite is probably "Killing an Elephant", although his one about the change in political language is also good.

4 hours later 4452301 Anonymous (image.jpg 719x1111 78kB)
>>4452217

4 hours later 4452346 Anonymous
>>4452301 carry on.

7 hours later 4453004 Anonymous
>>4451856 >>weed never gets legalized Top kek

7 hours later 4453011 Anonymous
>>4453004 Only being able to buy very limited amounts doesn't count.

7 hours later 4453151 Anonymous
>>4451664 >be 20 >go to community college >college has this godawful student paper, The Unfiltered Lens >full of SJW and pseudo-intellectual/political garbage >pick it up to laugh at the ridiculous headlines while waiting for the elevator >article about putting cameras in labs because shit keeps getting stolen >"George orwell was right" >that exact case

7 hours later 4453161 Anonymous
>>4453151 MISTAKE 1: >community college MISTAKE 2: >pick it up

7 hours later 4453176 Anonymous
>>4451745 There's no point in reading if you're just going to use it to recite "1984 came true!". How is that free thinking? These kids just assume anything written in a 'classic' book is true, and as an added bonus, they can seem smart by referencing an iconic book, even though they can only recite the title and author.

7 hours later 4453179 Anonymous
Depriving the populous of a book because you disagree with its contents is part of what that book is about. >Heaven forbid someone consider a school of thought that opposes the one you subscribe to.

8 hours later 4453216 Anonymous
>>4453176 I get what you are spitting but there is ALWAYS a point in reading.

9 hours later 4453426 Anonymous
>>4451613 Huxley was arguing that the world would be divided between two extremes, actually, the traditionalists who rejected modern culture for being heartless and superficial and the progressives who sought only pleasure and efficiency without any regard for morals or ethics. But if you wanted to (and got the attention of the government) you could go out and live in the wilderness and seek inspiration or go to an island and practice 'real' science.

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