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2012-09-24 01:32 3003213 Anonymous (pow.jpg 604x453 10kB)
It seems like in literature written by men, 90% of women characters (that is, women characters with any significant part in the book) are utterly contemptible. I don't have much contact with women in the real world, so I was hoping that some more socially experienced people could let me know whether this is an accurate reflection of life. Thanks.

1 min later 3003223 Anonymous
As a general rule, most people are contemptible.

2 min later 3003227 Anonymous
literature is not an accurate description of life however, that does not mean that...

5 min later 3003233 Anonymous
>socially experienced people >/lit/ I generally like women more than men.

7 min later 3003241 Anonymous
>>3003233 I used to like hanging out with girls more than guys but then I started hanging out with girls more than guys. Turns out girls are just as shitty as dudes.

10 min later 3003249 Anonymous
>>3003241 >used to like hanging out with girls more than guys >started hanging out with girls more than guys Well, which one is it?

12 min later 3003258 Anonymous
There is no difference. All of us are stumbling insecure idiots. Girls just have been shamed into acting a certain way by society.

13 min later 3003259 Anonymous
>>3003249 I was just trying to be clever

14 min later 3003262 Anonymous (gauguin2.jpg 609x800 128kB)
>>3003213 Women are great at enjoyable small talk and looking pleasant. The problems tend to start when you truly engage with them in an emotional or intellectual sense. "Women are considered deep - why? Because one can never discover any bottom to them. Women are not even shallow."

15 min later 3003263 Anonymous
>>3003213 Well, I've never had a girlfreind that lasted longer than a two dates, but from the statistics I see they are contemptible because of their gold-digging tendencies and demand for people to make way for them. >>3003258 >Girls just have been shamed into acting a certain way by society post-modernism is bad and girls act the way they do because of their genetics

16 min later 3003268 Anonymous
>>3003263 There is truth to this, if you have a cocktail of chemicals coursing through you encouraging you to make a family and find meaning in it, then you will probably be very circumscribed.

36 min later 3003330 Anonymous
The only reason I'm still in touch with the female world is because of my genetics, really, forcing me to do some penis into vagina activity. Not really much I can do about it, but I suppose it's a fair compromise. My strictly platonic relationship usually results in one of three paths - we end up flirting, we bang - we flirt, but she is taken/eventually gets a bf, and unless we bang, contact dissolves gradually - she wants "security", I pull out. Every single time. You know what the real kicker is? What I've gotten out of this is nothing more than simply a more effective way of ending up in the same fucking crossroad. "You'll meet the one", sure, probably even a few millions of adequately suited women out there, but I don't even care anymore. The highly romanticized "touch of a woman" doesn't really appeal to me anymore. I haven't even really cared for a woman since I was 15, I believe...

41 min later 3003342 Anonymous
I find that if I judge women by style and elegance (in all aspects) rather than virtue or intellectualism I appreciate them more.

43 min later 3003350 Anonymous
>>3003263 tell me more about your biotruths

45 min later 3003356 Anonymous
>>3003342 Amen.

47 min later 3003365 Standard Toaster
In Hermann Hesse's "Steppenwolf," the main female characters were actually quite nice and were possibly the best characters in the book (Hermine especially, the other girl (Maria?) not so much).

48 min later 3003366 Anonymous (Gemma Arterton 10.jpg 1024x768 219kB)
>>3003342 Very, very true. Long legged, well dressed and beautiful women can to a certain degree be tolerable. Men are however generally more aesthetically pleasing to look at.

50 min later 3003377 Anonymous
I hate humans. any other misanthropic authors? none of these bullshit normalfag misogynist types. the ones i want better stick it to men as well

51 min later 3003380 Anonymous
>>3003366 >Men are however generally more aesthetically pleasing to look at. faggot >>3003342 scum fuck

52 min later 3003384 Anonymous
>>3003366 for a moment I couldn't tell whether her body was facing forwards or backwards.

53 min later 3003386 Anonymous
>>3003380 what's this, a homophobic feminist? now I've seen everything.

53 min later 3003390 Anonymous
>>3003377 Celine Cioran

55 min later 3003394 Anonymous
>>3003377 Louis-Ferdinand CĂ©line - Journey to the end of the Night Emil Cioran - On the heights of despair Thomas Ligotti - The Conspiracy against the Human Race Hating life, even.

1 hours later 3003422 Anonymous (1341001231745.jpg 555x350 17kB)
>>3003380 >implying the appreciation of male aesthetics is gay grow a pair, would you?

1 hours later 3003427 Anonymous
>>3003213 I can't enjoy any book told from the first person perspective of a girl because I can't relate. I've never had two guys fight over me before.

1 hours later 3003438 Anonymous
>>3003422 sticks and stones, faggot fuck >>3003427 fucking normalfag stereotypist kill you all

1 hours later 3003439 Anonymous
>>3003427 I can't even make or choose a female character in any computer game. It's even worse than a non-white character.

1 hours later 3003442 Anonymous
>>3003439 fucking redneck fucking normal fuck the bible fuck the ancients fucking atheists

1 hours later 3003448 Anonymous
>>3003439 You should see my FTL spaceships. No women on deck, and you can't even create niggers, so that's solved.

1 hours later 3003451 Anonymous
>>3003439 >I can't even make or choose a female character in any computer game. I don't think I know anyone that didn't make a busty woman in Rockband.

11 hours later 3004519 Anonymous
>>3003451 I only play Nords in Skyrim.

12 hours later 3004527 Anonymous
Not for me. Perhaps its because i read mostly sci-fi and fantasy, and tend to throw the book out the very second i see something that puts me off (im fussy) but i dont think ive ever read one book in which the author treated women in any difference to men. Fantasy and Scifi tend to be better for the 'strong female characters' who are actually that - women doing things largely as competently as men - instead of the hollywood version - women doing ridiculous over the top stuff overshadowing everything. Sure, ive seen bitchy evil female characters. But then a huge amount of villains are male as well. ive also seen handy female main characters, more incompetent ones and everything in between. If youve gotten this impression, then i can only shrug and say either its just your imagination or your particular taste in books. I think most decent authors are probably aware of the gender bias and go to lengths to avoid or disprove it. Hating one specific gender, race, social group etc in your books is the sign of an immature author unless the book is specifically out to do just that, because bringing up stuff like that subconsciously means they havent paid attention to what they were writing.

12 hours later 3004529 Anonymous
>>3003213 3/10

12 hours later 3004530 Anonymous
it's an accurate reflection of male loner fantasies

12 hours later 3004555 Anonymous
>>3004527 >most decent authors are probably aware of the gender bias and go to lengths to avoid or disprove it. Christ no. Anyone who tries to push that shit in their writing can barely be read. Just see what happened to Earthsea after Le Guin went ultra-"feminist".

13 hours later 3004602 Anonymous
This thread has gone full /r9k/

13 hours later 3004608 Anonymous
>>3004555 She wrote one shitty book, Christ. Even her YA stuff are an excellent read.

13 hours later 3004621 Anonymous
Women are contemptible because they are addicted to drama and are, therefore, trouble makers. I should know. I'm a pretty sociable guy.

14 hours later 3004670 Anonymous
>>3003258 Meanwhile, grave goods from 20,000+ years ago include beads and combs, some fancier than others. Women's materialistic and acquisitive nature is just a replacement for flashy tail feathers to attract a mate. this is also why they let themselves go after marriage.

14 hours later 3004727 Anonymous
Op, this really is the worst place to ask this question.

14 hours later 3004735 Anonymous
Tess Durbeyfield is a pretty cool gal.

14 hours later 3004742 Anonymous
>>3003213 >It seems like in literature written by men, 90% of women characters (that is, women characters with any significant part in the book) are utterly contemptible. Assuming makes an ass out of you and me. You should have listened to your shop teacher OP.

15 hours later 3004771 Anonymous
The best women are the ones whom I've met only once.

15 hours later 3004777 Anonymous
>>3004670 "Let themselves go." Which is probably why, in civilised countries where women are no longer treated like slaves, husbands make their wives take a lover.

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