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2016-10-04 08:31 7006930 Anonymous (Doggy.jpg 900x1200 346kB)
Why is it that late transitioners (16-18+) are such negative, detrimental, assholes all the time? Like, we get it, you waited too long and will never truely pass or be accepted as female. You have nobody but yourself to blame. That doesn't mean your entitled to run around making the public hate us and confuse our legitimate issues with your perverted fetishism. Please, just leave us alone.

9 min later 7006960 Anonymous
Classic case of fox and the grapes

16 min later 7006982 Anonymous (1468795842942.jpg 1200x799 140kB)
>>7006930 Eventually access to HRT will be barred for those transitioning after puberty. That way it creates a healthy "inverse" sort of eugenics wherein hons (aka all late transitioners) are bred out by non-intervention. At this moment transitioning is critical for the way that it services the image and development of trans as a whole, not the way that it services yourself. That time will come later.

29 min later 7007042 Anonymous
>>7006930 They have a right to be upset. A lot of the ones who post here were born just too early to be a young transitioner, and just late enough to be able to transition before 30. But that's often not good enough, because 90% of people get completely wrecked by male puberty by that point. Being born so close to that threshold without being over the other side, and knowing that it completely ruined your chances of living a happy, normal life will turn anyone into an ass hole. I'm assuming you're young. You would have been absolutely fucked if you were born around 1990 instead of around 1998. This shit turned around insanely fast. For most people born around 1990, their only exposure to "trans women" as a child were the "is it a man?" segments on trash TV. Trans visibility finally started taking off toward the late 2000's and finally kicked into overdrive in the early 2010s, too late for a lot of those people. Most trans people in my generation didn't even know HRT was a thing until they were in college at the earliest. You don't know what to Google if you don't know it exists in the first place. When we were kids/teens, our attempts at Google searching trans shit pulled up hon fetishist websites like Susan's and Laura's Playground. Shit fucking sucks. I got lucky with bone structure and all that, and after FFS in November I am confident that I will pass completely, but I know most people aren't that lucky. You should count yourself lucky that you were born on the other side of that threshold. If people my age (now 25) were able to scroll through hundreds of transition timelines and easily find DIY information in our teens, a lot of lives wouldn't have been ruined.

32 min later 7007054 Anonymous
>>7007042 you act like being born male is a disease. you were born a perfectly healthy baby boy and it's your fault you weren't satisfied with that. we don't let children sterilize themselves so there's no reason to let anyone below the age of 18 take hormone blockers.

34 min later 7007061 Anonymous (trump.jpg 1232x885 446kB)
>>7007054 Off-topic, absolutely has nothing to do with this thread. Get out.

39 min later 7007074 Anonymous
>>7006930 i was born in '98, but unlike people like you who ony came out when tumblr threw up in your face i was an ACTUAL early transitioner who only had shit like laura's and susan's when i first realized what was going on believe me when i say that our situations will not be eternal there is no brilliant future where all transitioners are prepubertal -- mostly because over half of all prepubertal dysphoric children desist at puberty, and the first high-profile trans child to detransition is going to fuck everything over. throw in the fact that the detransitioned terf movement -- many of whom transitioned under 18 -- is getting an increasingly large share of attention and the fact that even people who pretend to be trans-accepting tend to be disgusted by the idea of transitioning under 18, and those of us born between 1995-2005 are the only ones who will be able to consistently transition young though the early 90s-born people on this board who bitch all the time also have an unrealistic idea of reality, the oldest early transitioners i know are now in their early 30s and the practice of underage transition itself began in the early 90s but the people born years after us? cry for them, for no one else will

42 min later 7007092 Anonymous
>>7007042 I feel you, I am 1993 and I learned about HRT in 2012 when googling how to chemically castrate myself Mr. Garrison from south park was my image of tranny

49 min later 7007112 Anonymous
>>7007074 Oh, I don't disagree with that. There will always be late transitioners for a variety of reasons. Apparently the trends show that the average age of transition is actually increasing rather than going down. How early of a transitioner are you? I think the Reddit trans boards came online sometime around 2010, and you would have been 12 years old. I was already 19. The point I was trying to make isn't really that all transitions will eventually be pre-pubertal, but that if you were born later, you had a much better chance of being one than someone born earlier. Of course there were early transitioners my age. But this was far, far less common back then than someone of your birth year. Yes, even of your birth-year, pre-pubertal transitions are still rare, but we're talking an entirely different level of "rare" than for my birth year.

50 min later 7007115 Anonymous
>>7007092 My parents wouldn't even let me watch South park ;_;

1 hours later 7007148 Anonymous
>>7007112 i definitely know it was super rare at the time, it's exponentially more common now and is peaking for the mid-2000s cohort i started researching things c. 2010 so when things like reddit and tumblr started popping up, but they didn't have nearly enough of a foothold for me to find them. to make matters worse, i'm ftm and almost all the old resources are geared towards mtfs. i ended up trying to see myself in jennifer diane reitz's writings. one of my first 'holy shit i am trans' moments was on a wikihow article giving passing tips to emo/scene ftms. i came out in 2012 after discovering tumblr and had a phase where i acted trendscum as shit but eventually got out of it most of my offline friends are a bit younger than me and came out 2015-2016 through tumblr, most of them are also trendscum and are going to ruin everything when they inevitably detransition which is what will ruin the possibility of anyone born 2010 or later transitioning before 18 i also live in australia which has a ridiculous and fucked up transition system, i started blockers at 15 and was one of the very first people in the country to take them -- it's getting better, but again because of detransers will only be better for five years at most

1 hours later 7007156 Anonymous
>>7007092 And that's the fundamental difference between someone born around 1990 and someone born around 2000. To be a pre-pubertal transitioner for either age group, you had to do a good amount of digging on the internet to know what to do. You also have to have accepting and understanding parents, of course. The difference is that for the first age group, there was no drive to find that information because there were no role models. Someone born in 1998 like that other anon would have been completely aware of the existence of young transitioners in the first place. They would know that young transitioning exists and is possible, which would give them the drive to find the information to do it themselves. These people would have been like 8 years old when Jazz Jennings started going public. The Someone born in 1990? Nope. They would have been 16 when Jazz Jennings and other young transitions started to become public. Their only exposure to transwomen were all older and nonpassing. They most likely wouldn't be aware that transitioning before puberty was even a thing so wouldn't even know to research it. Then all of this goes public after their puberty has already passed, and by then they say, "Well, I'm happy for those born around 2000, but it's too late for me, I'm fucked" and go into repression. This is the origin story of every early 90s hon.

1 hours later 7007166 Anonymous
>>7007148 Since we're on the topic... I've seen a lot of people say that most detransers are going to be FtM. Do you think there's any truth to this?

1 hours later 7007189 Anonymous
>>7006930 >16+ oh honey unless you start in the womb you aren't going to pass

1 hours later 7007203 Anonymous
>>7007166 absolutely most trendscum are physiologically female, so of course most detransers will be the shittiest part of that is that super-early transition is even more important on the ftm side of things because female puberty starts and ends too early, thelarche at 7 or 8 is considered normal these days, by the time i was 14 and binding my hips with a belt so they wouldn't grow any wider they were already outside of klinefelter's range let alone normal cis male range and i actually had a pretty straight build for a physiological female, but because so many of the ftmtf detransers that already exist were underage transitioners and the ratio will just get worse over time the chances of underage ftm transition will drop to zero in the near future and there's far less acceptance of self-medding in the ftm community to top it off

1 hours later 7007213 Anonymous
>>7007061 oh but you're implying it idiot. "they have a right to be mad" why? because they're retarded and can't accept that they were born to be healthy young men? but o no lol they're fucked if they don't transition before their 19th birthdays!!!! letting 16 year olds take hormones and viewing it as a positive change is so deluded.

1 hours later 7007214 Anonymous
>>7006982 You're so fucking autistic, holy shit!

1 hours later 7007229 Anonymous
>>7007203 that's because you were a child and shouldn't have been given any hormone blockers or replacement to begin with. you were born a healthy baby girl and it's in everyone's best interest to medically treat you like that until you're 18 at least before you actually fucking regret something.

1 hours later 7007254 Anonymous
>>7007229 He didn't want to be a girl though. GET OUT.

1 hours later 7007286 Anonymous
>>7007254 yeah and who fucking cares? 14 year olds want to be retarded shit all the time. You're the irrational ones here. I've heard plenty of 14 year olds and even adults go "NEVER GONNA HAVE CHILDREN. NOT ME!!!! NEVER!!! WHY ARE THEY GONNA DENY ME MY RIGHT TO STERILIZE MYSELF!!!!!" who eventually grow out of it and and end up wanting kids. should we give vasectomies and hysterectomies to 14 year olds who say "don't worry, I won't be needing these, you see I don't want to have kids". quit being mentally ill and at least wait until your brain is fully developed.

1 hours later 7007288 Anonymous
>>7007286 Except society hates putting up with hons, and if you outlaw pre-pubertal transitioning, you're going to get a shit-load more of them. Is that what you want? Hons everywhere?

1 hours later 7007297 Anonymous
>>7007288 chin surgeries are cheap as hell there is no reasons Hons should be walking around with those chins. instead of chopping up their genitals and walking around with a gaping wound they should invest in a chin shaving and Adam's apple shaving.

1 hours later 7007302 Anonymous
I cannot believe dumb hons are replying to this thread

1 hours later 7007310 Anonymous
>>7007302 Hons don't realize if they literally saved up 2k for a chin job they'd look like actual human beings and not Hons. instead they're gross AGPs who care more about fulfilling their weird genital fantasies. most sane and non mentally ill trannies generally do not ruin and cut off organs and reduce their functionality.

1 hours later 7007313 Anonymous
>>7007297 chin surgeries are "cosmetic" and not covered by insurance

2 hours later 7007324 Anonymous
>>7007313 Ah so retards who decide they were born in the wrong body shouldn't have to put in money to pass? Then quit complaining!!!! Or save up holy shit, if you make 30k a year and don't live in a shithole like NY or California putting aside money to get facial surgery should be easy and it will make them feel better too most likely. you're gonna have to sacrifice money into passing if you want it so bad jeez. cis women get nose jobs and chin jobs all the time so transwomen should be no exception. women pay for their own so they should too

2 hours later 7007375 Anonymous
>>7007324 Of course they shouldn't! Just like burn victims who reconstructive surgeries. Further, it should be provided by the government for maximum access and efficiency, paid for by taxes. :)

2 hours later 7007386 Anonymous
>>7007375 no that's just greedy cmon that's like someone going "I have BDD so if I don't get this nose jobs I will kill myself, making this a medical need" quit being whiny babies and live with life. you guys have never suffered as much as burn victims and you never will.

2 hours later 7007391 Anonymous (3ecd2e926ff9536bfc25ce354969eabc419d1359b93bc523095558cbfa7edf90.jpg 529x478 55kB)
>>7007375 >Further, it should be provided by the government for maximum access and efficiency, paid for by taxes

2 hours later 7007397 Anonymous
>>7007386 the treatment for bdd is psychotherapy, because it is the only thing that works. surgery is contraindicated in bdd the treatment for sex discordance is surgery, because it is the only thing that works. psychotherapy is contraindicated in sex discordance i wish i could give a fraction of the hell i have lived to people who think transition is cosmetic. i have seen hell and it is preferable to this

2 hours later 7007410 Anonymous
>>7007397 no wonder trannies kill themselves. you're all so overdramatic. really I wish you'd lose your entire face, hair, eyes, hands and lips along with your possessions and your ability to speak in a fire.

16 hours later 7010540 Anonymous
>>7006930 ...not everything is 'murica... In some countries you aren't allowed to do anything before 18

22 hours later 7011595 Anonymous
>>7010540 >what is self med >what is self castration

22 hours later 7011627 Anonymous
this is what i mean by innovative shitposting keep it fresh hunna OP

22 hours later 7011671 Anonymous (duv.jpg 460x276 35kB)
>liked wearing purple and playing with barbies when I was a kid Hot fucking am I glad I was born early 90's before trannies become the hot new trend. My parents are super liberal so they would've been sending me to the doc to have my dick chopped off and get shot up with estrogen the second they saw me touch that Malibu Stacy

33 hours later 7013769 Anonymous (166[1].jpg 1600x1200 149kB)
>>7007375 >provided by the government for maximum [...] efficiency Tell that to all the European trannies with 6 month wait times -minimum- to see a doctor for gender issues. >>7011671 >mfw liberal parents are wasted on people who don't need them

43 hours later 7016213 Anonymous
>>7013769 [for free]

44 hours later 7016466 Anonymous
The bad thing about transitioning young is that you have to do it during school so everybody will know you're a tranny and judge you. Ppl are more liberal now but I'm sure you're still getting judged and treated like a freak, especially by boys. Your class mates and hometown will know you're a tranny no matter how good you look. Also even some young transitioners are tall with big feet and man hands. Also you're still a man.

44 hours later 7016482 Anonymous
>>7016466 i just moved schools funnily enough i shared a class with a guy i knew pre-transition and he didn't realize i was the 'girl' in all his primary school classes, though he didn't speak english at the time it was still nervewracking though because i had decided it was a good idea to present male and stealth before starting t, though at least i was on blockers

46 hours later 7016841 Anonymous
>>7016466 oh boo hoo why don't you just wait then if it's so bad?

66 hours later 7020837 Anonymous
>>7016466 >I'm gonna ruin my life to avoid the same bullying that I already have to deal with anyways! Terrible logic.

67 hours later 7020874 Anonymous
>>7006930 >late transitioners (16-18+) what the hell >negative, detrimental, assholes all the time now you're projecting hon

67 hours later 7020909 Anonymous
>>7020874 But it's impossible for an early transitioner to be a Hon?

67 hours later 7020932 Anonymous
>>7020909 http://www.monstersandcritics.com/s mallscreen/i-am-jazz-noelle-struggl es-with-post-puberty-transition/

67 hours later 7020942 Anonymous (squanch man.png 1035x720 1408kB)
>>7006930 >late transitioners >16 nigger what

67 hours later 7020961 Anonymous
>>7020932 She's not a hon at all

67 hours later 7020969 Anonymous
>>7020932 That's not to say she passes. Of course not, she's a late transitioner. But she's not a hon.

67 hours later 7020979 Anonymous
>>7020961 she started hrt at fucking 14 and is still way more masculine than me at 23 have you heard her voice? desu i feel really bad for her

68 hours later 7021234 Anonymous
>>7020979 If you look better than that then congrats you got super lucky

69 hours later 7021250 Anonymous
>>7020961 >>7020969 >>7021234 >she's not a hon Yes Noelle is a hon, hons can be both old and young. She is a transbian hon. >>7020979 This she creeps me out too, transbians are weird.

69 hours later 7021263 Anonymous
>>7007042 >>7007092 I was born 1984 and transitioned at 18. Guess I got lucky?

69 hours later 7021266 Anonymous
>>7007310 transbians = hons.

69 hours later 7021273 Anonymous
>>7021263 people thought late transitioners were on the brink of extinction due to all the very young adults turning up at gender clinics...in 1976 the meme that anyone born before 1995 must be a hon is bizarre and only true under the equally bizarre claim that people like noelle are hons or late transitioners the data does not fit the religious belief of many people here that most transitioners are now teenagers

70 hours later 7021538 Anonymous
>>7006930 >Why is it that late transitioners >(16-18+) lmao Beautiful bait thread desu

70 hours later 7021692 Anonymous
>>7021250 Not a hon. You guys are delusional as fuck

70 hours later 7021729 Anonymous
>16 is too late >you can't even legally work more than 20 hours a paycheck in the us >without parental support the only way too transition would be sugar daddy or drug dealing to get the money K

70 hours later 7021752 Anonymous
>>7021729 right on bronado, I dealt all sorts of shit for those blue pills in high school

103 hours later 7027286 Anonymous
16- 18 is a late transition now? Can I please go and cry?

103 hours later 7027296 Anonymous
>>7006930 >That doesn't mean your entitled to run around making the public hate us and confuse our legitimate issues with your perverted fetishism. But they don't, they sit at home being bitter. >>7021538 16 is quite ok, but 18+ is defenitely on the late side, and 20+ is LATE. >>7021729 What point are you trying to make? Late is completely independent on the individuals possibility to get treatment. Late is determined by how far puberty has gone, and how far social and emotional maturity has gone.

103 hours later 7027305 Anonymous
>>7007386 Unlike BDD trans people actually have shit wrong with their faces. If a doctor gives the go ahead I don't see why it shouldn't be covered in the insurance that they pay for.

103 hours later 7027314 Anonymous
>>7007386 It depends on the extent of the burns sometimes it can be mostly fixed, and not like THAT bad.

103 hours later 7027349 Anonymous
>>7006930 This ~late transition~ meme is getting funnier and funnier.

103 hours later 7027380 Anonymous
>>7027286 ahahahahahahah now maybe you'll have some sympathy for your elders

104 hours later 7027504 Oryx (image.jpg 2231x2132 839kB)
>>7006982 Hahaha nope >tfw lived in fucking thailand THNAK YOU FATHER

104 hours later 7027588 Anonymous
>>7020969 >14 >late transitioner Tbh I might get Hons yelling at me for this but I agree. Anything post like 11 or 12 is late. If you've been on T long enough for your voice to drop and your body to masculinise that much then you're pretty fucking late.

104 hours later 7027596 Anonymous
>>7027588 I think like 85% of transitions are 20-50. So no. Numerically early transition means before the average. 17 is early transition.

107 hours later 7028166 Anonymous
>>7027596 I started at 19 so I am even below the 85% range but fuck ..... I want to an hero because I will forever be a fucking hon. People will always know I am a tranny because T fucking wrecked me. I been on hrt for five years already and I know I am fucked 100%. I wish I could have started at 16. If I would have come out and not feared shit I could have started at 14 but no I am a fucking hon for life now.

107 hours later 7028230 Anonymous (1465072409091.jpg 670x503 102kB)
>16 >late transition Haha wut

108 hours later 7028237 Anonymous
>>7007042 Thank you you got it perfect this is exactly how I feel.

110 hours later 7028669 Anonymous
>>7006930 Because owing to various obligations we can't just anhero and end the sad mess of our lives.

110 hours later 7028774 Oryx
>>7027588 >Jakie Green starts at 12 >still 6 foot >danish model from project runway is six foot Hmm. I guess media doesn't favour manlets

111 hours later 7028893 Anonymous
>>7007213 >healthy >young men

113 hours later 7029269 Oryx
>>7028774 Hmm it's almost like real girls grow tall too

113 hours later 7029310 Anonymous
>>7028669 What kind of obligations?

113 hours later 7029315 Anonymous
>>7028166 Can ffs help?

113 hours later 7029318 Anonymous
>>7029310 my parents would be destroyed; looks like I gotta stick around at least until they pass :/

113 hours later 7029336 Trap Waifu
Relevant to >>7028230 Question: Is 18 to late to be passable? I think I'm pretty feminine for a guy, but unsure if I could pass after HRT?

115 hours later 7029569 Anonymous
>>7006930 This is bait right?

115 hours later 7029732 Anonymous
>>7028774 >>7029269 Didn't she start closer to 14? Either way, she had a super early puberty, and that was the reason to why they let her start hormones so early.

115 hours later 7029739 Anonymous
Down?

117 hours later 7030224 Trap Waifu
>>7029336 You realize that this is a troll thread right? You realize that 85-90% who start under 20 pass right?

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