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2015-09-30 11:26 5009623 Anonymous Is this passable? (lpimage04-06.jpg 750x310 76kB)
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2 min later 5009629 Anonymous (1442935604599.jpg 500x281 14kB)
>>5009623
for a demon
3 min later 5009635 Anonymous (im-walking-here.gif 400x200 948kB)
>>5009623
I am eating here!
10 min later 5009663 Anonymous
>>5009623
That's really good. It isn't 100% passable, anyone hooking up with the subject who was sober and paying attention would eventually put it together, but it wouldn't be jarring and you'd definitely be able to have good sex.
The surgeon who did v1 should be fucking ashamed of themselves though.
21 min later 5009731 Anonymous
>>5009623
Well I think the main issue is the first surgery was a failure, and someone tried and somewhat succeeded at fixing it.
Its not great but its not horrendous.
But that's beside the point however. This is a SFW board, and its against the rules to post a vagina, regardless if it is a tranny vagina, on a sfw board.
Just warning you I've been nailed with a 3 day ban for doing the exact same thing.
38 min later 5009808 Kayla
>>5009623
that mother fucker needs labiaplasty and to learn how to use a god damn razor
41 min later 5009826 Anonymous
>>5009731
You would make love to this? >>5009623
43 min later 5009845 Anonymous
>>5009663 The surgeon who did v1 should be fucking ashamed of themselves though.
Amen
44 min later 5009857 Anonymous
>>5009826
No because I like boys.
1 hours later 5010079 Anonymous
Disgusting. Im never getting srs
1 hours later 5010132 Lilith Lovett
Ewww... Guess I'm not getting SRS for a very long time then.
1 hours later 5010161 Anonymous
>>5010132
>>5010079
>one botched picture from a mystery surgeon which Bowers tried to fix.
>all srs is shit and will look like that
uh hu
1 hours later 5010235 Anonymous
>>5009857
You enjoy making love to boys?
1 hours later 5010242 Anonymous (labiaplasty-1.png 721x369 529kB)
Here snother looks sexy right?
1 hours later 5010309 Anonymous
>>5010242
>wow major surgery doesn't look great five minutes out of the operation room
You're morons
2 hours later 5010335 OG Leopold
fuck no. If a 'girl' was to pull down 'her' pants and show me that abomination I'd knock that freak on his fucking ass. And I'm trying to eat, this is a blue board. Go post that sick shit somewhere else/
2 hours later 5010348 Anonymous
>>5010335
>trying to eat
>browsing chans
3 hours later 5010709 Anonymous (d08.png 424x448 257kB)
3 hours later 5010922 /pol/ack
>>5009623
Thanks for giving me a phobia.
7 hours later 5011691 Xavion
>>5010335
shut up you wouldnt do shit, at most youd get grossed out and akwardly try to back out of the situation and leave
7 hours later 5011714 Anonymous
>>5009808
You need to stop typing like an insecure man if you want to convince people you are a woman.
7 hours later 5011742 Anonymous
>>5009623
>Is this passable?
Idk ask Lalalilly, it's her gross vagina. lol
7 hours later 5011794 Anonymous
>>5011714
Calm your T rage hon.
7 hours later 5011803 Anonymous
>>5009623
right up until they touch it yes
after that hysterical no, 100%ticket to poundtown unless you explain you are SRS and not female.
that looks as much like a vagoo as a sliced bagel looks like a jelly donut.
7 hours later 5011810 Anonymous
>>5011794
I am going to go back in time and place a bomb in your mother's womb.
7 hours later 5011814 Anonymous
>>5010335
Yeah but you're a nigger so your opinion doesn't matter,
8 hours later 5011842 Anonymous
>>5011810
A t-bomb anon? : )
8 hours later 5011846 Anonymous
why does this fucking picture keep getting bumped to the front? ughhh
8 hours later 5011860 Anonymous
>>5009623
I've seen cis women with worse looking vaginas than that. And what was that a botch job some other surgeon fixed? Not bad.
I don't know why everyone loses their shit about this.
8 hours later 5011871 Anonymous
>>5011860
Because they're virgins and have never actually seen a real vagina.
I especially laugh at the ones who say they'd flip shit if that's what they saw. As if they'd ever get that chance kek.
8 hours later 5011910 Anonymous
>>5011860
Because axe wound and thai shit are literally memes that are pushed by dumb polanons and Suporn fangirls delusional enough to believe old hons glorifying his ass.
8 hours later 5011917 Anonymous
>>5011871
I've had sex with a lot of women in my life, and trust me there are worse looking cis vaginas than OP.
Not only that, but I don't see them freaking out about cis women who get neovaginas through highly similar techniques.
It just seems so juvenile to get so riled about something so petty.
8 hours later 5011919 Anonymous
>>5009663
tbh any doctor that encourages delusions about gender with genital mutilation should be ashamed of themselves regardless of skill.
8 hours later 5011927 Anonymous
>>5011917
Mostly because they're unaware. For what it's worth Bowers is mostly known for making highly functional vaginas that aren't particularly pretty. The real terrible shit really mostly comes from surgeons like Reed or Schrang (or I guess like, the indians)
8 hours later 5011932 Anonymous
>>5011927
I wonder how doctors are going to be now that surgery is covered under public healthcare in certain states.
8 hours later 5011935 Anonymous
>>5011919
Oh I see, this is going to be a muh feels thread of course.
8 hours later 5011943 Anonymous
>>5011932
That's not too hard to figure out, at this point most insurances cover Bowers, will refund two of the other surgeons (who are imo better than Bowers for aesthetics) and that's about it. I don't think they refund for any of the thais or Brassard.
8 hours later 5011947 Anonymous
>>5011842
A suitcase nuclear bomb.
9 hours later 5011976 Anonymous
that is really fucking gross, why don't you just keep your dick, you'd have to be seriously delusional to want to do this to yourself
9 hours later 5011977 Anonymous
>>5011976
The fuck do you know. You have no problem with your genitals
9 hours later 5011979 Anonymous
>>5011976
>delusional
Go fuck yourself /pol/
9 hours later 5011982 Anonymous
>>5011977
>What the fuck do you know? You don't have a heroin problem.
fix your brain to be comfortable with your genitals, not the other way around.
9 hours later 5011984 Anonymous
>>5011982
Finish medical school before posting autistic ramblings.
9 hours later 5011985 Lalalily
>>5011742
cause I went to a shittier murrica surgeon ?
oh wait is this memes ?
9 hours later 5012013 Anonymous
>>5011985
>still believing in thaishit memes
9 hours later 5012042 Anonymous
>>5011984
oh the irony
9 hours later 5012046 Anonymous
>>5012042
The irony is you're a highschool drop out using irony incorrectly to try and make yourself look informed but failing. Sit the fuck down plebe.
10 hours later 5012077 Lalalily
>>5012013
don't have to believe when it's right between my legs ;)
11 hours later 5012312 Anonymous
>>5011985
That person went to Thailand where it was botched so it was up to the western surgeon to try salvage it.
11 hours later 5012332 Lalalily
>>5012312
so ?
thailand has some shitty surgeons like the rest of the world
but the big leaders in the field of srs are there too
11 hours later 5012342 Anonymous
>>5012332
>the big leaders in the field
You still think Chet does the chonburi shuffle when he can't even stand to be in the same room as Suporn on a good day.
Literally he does the exact same shit as the other big name surgeons which is graft shit around, only he gives it a nicer sounding name.
12 hours later 5012367 Lalalily
>>5012342
chatts results are still leagues above most I've seen from murrica and he's a bit cheaper than those
and well suporn is still the best one when it comes to sensitivity,feel,moisture and aesthetic
12 hours later 5012375 Anonymous
>>5012367
>Supornmemeing to the very end
12 hours later 5012387 Anonymous
>>5012367
You shitting me? Even that girl on leddit that went to a US surgeob who had there labia fuse ended up with better looking vulva than what I've seen of chett
15 hours later 5012883 Anonymous
>>5011982
>fix your brain to be comfortable with your genitals
What year do you think this is, 2050?
15 hours later 5012891 Anonymous
>>5010335
Implying anyone is gonna pull down their pants for you, you wretched little troll.
15 hours later 5012917 Anonymous
Are you suggesting cis vaginas look any better?
15 hours later 5012928 Anonymous
basically no, it looks like an actual axe wound.
real vaginas can be a lot sloppier on the outside but mostly they don't look like they were sewed up on accident, I would be afraid to have the lights on if this were me
16 hours later 5012987 Anonymous
>>5009623
Im a cis girl and my vag doesnt look any better tbh
16 hours later 5013013 Anonymous
>>5012917
yes, obviously. who are you trying to kid?
18 hours later 5013598 Anonymous
>>5012387
The best part of lily's suporn meme obsession is that there's like 50/50 this is a suporn job with someone who has a large dick. The other 50/50 is Kunaporn who has the same problem.
19 hours later 5013631 Anonymous
>>5012917
Yeah they do you retard.
19 hours later 5013661 Anonymous
>>5012987
Shut up Lilly.
19 hours later 5013673 Anonymous
>>5012367
Larry pleas stop talking about your mutilated penis it's fucking gross, bro
19 hours later 5013677 Anonymous
>>5013661
Larry*
FTFY
19 hours later 5013776 Anonymous
>>5011982
why though, give me a good reason why you would chose to alter your brain but not your genitals?
the brain is a highly sensitive organ from which stems your personality and your body is being controlled from there. it is so complex we don't know how it works. if it doesn't work your dead.
tell me how genitals can be more important than the brain?
19 hours later 5013798 Anonymous
>all these perma-virgins saying they'd freak the fuck out of a girls vagina looked like that
um..
most girls vagina's look exactly like OP's
the real world isn't like your porn videos lol
19 hours later 5013799 Anonymous
>>5013776
you can fix your mind by going to therapy to learn to love yourself then you don't need to chop your dick off or take harmful chemicals
20 hours later 5013813 Anonymous
>>5013799
>you can fix your mind by going to therapy to love yourself
sadly it doesn't work that way
20 hours later 5013818 Anonymous
>>5013799
You have no idea how and why dysphoria works the way it does, are suggesting something that is considered discredited by the same medical professionals who pushed it decades ago, and all that because of "muh feels", so kindly shut up with your doctorkin anon nonsense.
20 hours later 5013831 Anonymous
>>5013798
>delusional trannies actually believe this
I've dated a half a dozen girls and none of them had vaginas that were 90% scar tissue frankenpussy. But whatever helps you sleep at night, sir.
20 hours later 5013837 Anonymous
>>5013831
cool anecdote lol
20 hours later 5013839 Anonymous
>>5013831
I doubt you've dated anything that isnt attached to your arm and has an opposable thumb.
Prove me wrong lol.
20 hours later 5013848 Anonymous
>>5013813
Yes it does
>>5013818
I used to be dysphoric. I dressed up all the time. But I soon realized I was chasing a pipe dream. Now I'm much happier just being a gay boy.
>inb4 you weren't actually trans
Yes I was. I went to a psychiatrist every month for over a year she said I had gender dysphoria then I ended up just canceling my appointments with her before I was slated to start hrt. I'm telling you , you can make the feelings go away
20 hours later 5013854 Anonymous
>>5013848
>you can make the feelings go away
It should be noted that just because it worked for you doesn't mean it can work for everyone, but you're right. Dysphoria can go away on it's own if you get lucky.
20 hours later 5013858 Anonymous
>>5013848
Bro just pray the gay away. I used to be gay just like you until Jesus told me to take grill pills. I canceled all my bug chasing parties and meth fueled orgies the next day and stopped lying about who I really was. Im telling you, you can make the gay feels go away.
20 hours later 5013859 Anonymous
>>5013848
>I used to be dysphoric. I dressed up all the time.
>I'm a crossdresser so that's what you are
Let's be honest here, most shrink just observe what you tell them, they don't do some grand mystical diagnosis.
You'll come back crawling at 40 and it's kind of sad.
>You can make the feelings go away
Tried it at 17, ended up almost taking a walk on the highway. You're either repressing and afraid or an idiot with no ability to imagine anything beyond his own situation which I guess would make you a fine man.
20 hours later 5013893 Anonymous
>>5013854
I understand that. I'm just saying it worked for me. I have no desire to be a girl anymore.
>>5013858
Nice hyperbole. I never prayed it away. It just went away on its own.
>>5013859
I won't crawl back at 40
I'm telling you I'm 19 i was 18 at the time. I could have passed without a doubt. The feelings just went away. I don't want to be a girl anymore. I'm not repressing anything.
20 hours later 5013904 Anonymous
>>5013893
>I'm telling you I'm 19 i was 18 at the time.
kek
20 hours later 5013906 Anonymous
>>5013893
Yah my gay just went away on its own too. I became a heterosexual girl instead.
20 hours later 5013919 Anonymous
>>5013893
>I won't crawl back at 40
>I'm telling you I'm 19 i was 18 at the time. I could have passed without a doubt. The feelings just went away. I don't want to be a girl anymore. I'm not repressing anything.
i really hope this works out for you. it doesn't sound like it is going to.
are you >>5013799 ?
20 hours later 5013929 Anonymous
>>5013906
>Having gender identity disorder is comparable to being gay
20 hours later 5013934 Anonymous
>>5013929
>GID is curable with talk therapy
>implying GID is even still considered a thing
You know nothing about anything, anon.
20 hours later 5013943 Anonymous
This thaishit meme is ridiculous.
I don't doubt that a few of the Thai surgeons are skilled, but they're not the best in the world, and they're not the best for everyone. Most of the hype comes from old, desperate hons. The more lax medical standards lets no effort everhons get surgery when they wouldn't have been allowed to in the west. They're cheaper too, but currently not by much (factoring in travel). So hype builds because most of us don't have money or insurance coverage. Confirmation bias leads patients to know "my" surgeon is the best.
Hons are the most vocal and visible online presence, so they do not hold back when TALKING about their neovagina. When it comes to showing the results, they are few and far between, rarely looking good, even more rarely linked to the specific surgeon.
Hons were faux straight men who through social pressure, married a woman and had kids, all without ever seeing his wife's vagina. So they circlejerk and compliment each other's results, saying their own looks and feels so real and perfect. They like men and never have any interest in vaginas.
>>5012342
chonburi shuffle is EXACTLY the same as "western inversion" anyway, except they stretch the scrotal skin (sometimes slicing it to double surface area) to achieve depth. I've talked to all the big names, and without prompting they all describe their techniques the same way. The difference is that western surgeons make it sound "tried and true" where thai surgeons make the chonburi shuffle sound "radically new and innovative."
Truth is, suporn just leapfrogged western 70s techniques, whereas the west continually, gradually improved.
>>5013831
Have you ever seen "my wife" amateur threads on /s/? They are old, unattractive, and don't know how to pose. They look exactly like this. Thing is, in porn, you never see the vag spread out like in these medical photos.
>>5012928
plz post comparison photos of actual ax wound.
20 hours later 5013963 Anonymous
>>5013943
Honestly if porn was my only standard to judge by rather than the ravings of old hons and the memeing of Suporn fangirls, I'd definitely go for Dr B in Canada or maybe Meltzer before any of the thais.
20 hours later 5013968 Anonymous
>>5013929
>Being gay is comparable to gender identity disorder
20 hours later 5013981 Anonymous
>>5013904
I'm saying I'm still young so it's not like it's a case of sour grapes
>>5013906
fuck off
>>5013919
No I'm not that anon
20 hours later 5013986 Anonymous
>>5013981
Bro its alright I know you want to put up your "gay defense mechanisms" but you just have to accept that this whole homosinuality thing you're into is just a phase. Eventually you'll grow up and grow tits like a real adult. Trust me.
20 hours later 5013993 Anonymous
>>5009623
Genital mutilation is no different from self harm and anyone who actually wants their penis to be sliced up should be put in a psych ward.
Its absolutely disgusting that these surgeons are taking advantage of self loathing and depressed trans girls, making up bullshit non peer reviewd "studies" absolutely lying through their teeth about srs vaginas.
Its not a vagina, its a fucking gaping wound you have to dilate for MONTHS so your body doesnt close it because it KNOWS its nothing more than a wound.
20 hours later 5014003 Anonymous
>>5013993
> mutilation
Mutilation is a value judgement you retard. A backwards hick from the 40's would tell you that a tattoo is mutilation, but it isn't.
20 hours later 5014008 Anonymous
>>5013993
Neovagina doesn't close up, dilation is to preserve depth.
>Genital mutilation
>mutilation: to cut off or permanently destroy a limb or essential part of
SRS is inverted penor it is not destroyed or cut off.
>psych ward
You are not a psychologist.
>disgusting surgeons
You are not a surgeon, doctor, medical professional, or credible healthcare expert.
>take advantage of
If you actually gave a fuck about us being taken advantage of you would support making it mandatory for insurance companies to cover trans related health care procedures
>gaping wound
bruh its all tissue from your own fucking body there is no "hole". They take an outie and make it an innie. It's not fucking complicated.
>0/10
Try harder anon
21 hours later 5014044 Anonymous
>>5014003
>Mutilation is a value judgement you retard.
nope, mutilation is a scientific term that has a very clear definition
1
: to cut up or alter radically so as to make imperfect <the child mutilated the book with his scissors>
2
: to cut off or permanently destroy a limb or essential part o
The penis is cut up and destroyed by srs, it will never ever function as a penis ever again.
>>5014008
>mandatory for insurance companies to cover trans related health care procedures
>making insurance companies cover self harm procedures
fuck off hon. there is nothing more disgusting than slicing up a penis.
You will never ever ever ever be a real girl and thats not a real vagina, its a literal flesh wound.
21 hours later 5014048 Anonymous
>>5014044
>mutilation is a scientific term which is why I'm basing this on a publication that has 0 scientific value
kek, another fag who thinks penis is so fucking precious that less than 1% of the population not wanting one is a crime against humanity. Get over it, chaser.
21 hours later 5014052 Anonymous
>>5014044
> imperfect
> essential
This is objective? You can survive without a penis. Does that make it not essential? Depends on your values.
Same thing with imperfect. Some would argue that perfection is unknowable, and as such, everything would be mutilated. Not much use in calling things mutilated if everything is, right?
Try harder next time.
21 hours later 5014056 Anonymous
>>5014044
Fuck off cishet scum you will never use words in an accurate manner to make an argument based on facts instead of just your feels.
21 hours later 5014063 Anonymous
>>5012342
Where did this Chet hates Suporn thing come from?
21 hours later 5014066 Anonymous
>>5013986
I am gay. I have sex with other guys.
21 hours later 5014069 Anonymous (1443484713060.jpg 1486x633 534kB)
just fucking christ the level of delusion in these threads.
here is a completely standard normal vagina in different stages of arousal. It looks nothing like the OP pics.
21 hours later 5014072 Anonymous
>>5014056
You will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be a real girl
21 hours later 5014082 Anonymous
>>5014048
>Get over it, chaser.
1. not a chaser
2. Iv been trans since before you even knew what it was.
3. I care what happens to other people, unlike you, and the idea of resources being wasted like this when most of the people who get the surgery are going to kill themselves anyways is a huge waste.
I was once like you once upon a time, I hated my penis with a passion and i absolutely wanted to get srs. Luckily for me, i was forced to get therepy for more than a few years and my therapist was an amazing woman who helped me to understand my self loathing and start to love myself.
Now i still wish i was born with a real vagina, but i no longer hate it at all and realized that I , just like MOST trans girls, was dumping all my dysphoria and self loathing on my penis because i viewed it as a literal manifestation of my male body/self.
IF anyone actually wants to get srs they should have to get ATLEAST 3 years of therapy with 2 different therapist who can try to help them deal with their self loathing.
>>5014052
>This is objective? You can survive without a penis. Does that make it not essential? Depends on your values.
pls be a troll, holy shit did you fail biology that hard?
Do you not know what a penis is? I literally challenge you to go up to ANY non srs surgeon and ask them if taking a knife to a penis and turning it into something that looks like a vagina is not mutilating the penis.
Once again, it will never ever ever function as a penis again. It will not get erect.
21 hours later 5014083 Anonymous
>>5014072
Are you omniscient or clairvoyant or something? You can't see the future.
21 hours later 5014091 Anonymous
>>5014082
What I'm saying is that a penis isn't essential. You don't need it.
> Once again, it will never ever ever function as a penis again. It will not get erect.
And if you have no use for a penis, the person has not been mutilated. How is this so hard to understand?
21 hours later 5014102 Anonymous
>>5014083
You were born a boy you'll die a boy. No matter how high your estrogen count is no matter how big your breasts are you still won't be a girl.
21 hours later 5014103 Anonymous
>>5014082
>2. Iv been trans since before you even knew what it was.
You transitioned in the 90s? Good for you.
21 hours later 5014108 Anonymous
>>5014102
You were born an infant you'll die an infant. No matter how much growth or change you go through you still won't be an adult
21 hours later 5014109 Anonymous
>>5014091
>And if you have no use for a penis, the person has not been mutilated
but the penis has. No amount of mental gymnastics is going to change the fact that you are literally slicing up a part of your body. It doesnt matter if you dont want it or not. There is something incredibly fucked up with you mentally if you are so eager to harm parts of your body, no wonder trans girls kill themself all the time.
I have never ever ever met a trans girl that got srs that was healthy mentally or not depressed and self loathing as fuck.
Its self harm by definition.
21 hours later 5014112 Anonymous
>>5014072
Wow so offensive, 10/10 commiting suicide
>>5014082
So you turned this self loathing into loathing other people.
21 hours later 5014129 Anonymous
>>5014109
>There is something incredibly fucked up with you mentally if you are so eager to harm parts of your body, no wonder trans girls kill themself all the time.
"You are fucked up" is also a value judgement. Most would say that the body is not perfect out of the box. It decays, it dies, it breaks down and sometimes it does things we don't want it to. You can try calling those changes mutilation on the discrete level, but on the holistic level the person hasn't been mutilated unless they have issue with those changes.
21 hours later 5014159 Anonymous
>>5014112
>into loathing other people.
No i care about what happens to trans girls which is why i hate srs so much.
Everyone everwhere pushes it down the throat of every trans girl they ever meet and a lot of them think its some magic thing that will make them a real girl and they dont have to work on passing and all their mental problems and self loathing will go away and WHO EVEN NEEDS A THERAPIST. When it doesnt do any of these things and they are still depressed as fuck they end up killing themselves because they believed the lies that are so frequent in this community.
Iv known quite a few trans girls that got srs that really wish they hadnt because it feels like a part of their body is missing and there is nothing they can do about it.
Some of them even get phantom limb sydrome, meaning the body KNOWS its supposed to have it. I dont expect you to know what that is since you clearly have 0 science education and probably underage as fuck so here is a little reading for you.
https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/ shortsharpscience/2008/10/removing- the-phantom-penis.html
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedi ctionary.com/Phantom+Penis+Syndrome
21 hours later 5014191 Anonymous
>>5014159
Funny you say that; when I was in my "therapists are 1000% useless" phase, I also generally opposed srs, which I'll remind you requires therapists to begin with unless you're seeing thaishit surgeons.
Fact is you probably have soe fucked shit to work out of your own.
21 hours later 5014202 Anonymous
>>5014191
>begin with unless you're seeing thaishit surgeons.
just like lilly. I always wondered how he got srs when he even admitted to never getting any kind of therapy at all.
Also the amount of therapy required for srs is extremely minimal and needs to be ATLEAST 2-3 years.
21 hours later 5014219 Anonymous
>>5014202
>needs to be 2-3 years
Because of your feels? Let's be honest here, most hons don't even get on hrt in that short amount of therapy anyway and nobody under like 30 can afford to throw that much money at shrinks.
You sound like you're trying very hard to sound more secure about being nonop than you actually are. I did that, too.
21 hours later 5014244 Anonymous
>>5013993
>these surgeons are taking advantage of self loathing and depressed trans girls,
Just like the "gender" therapists they see working in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies take advantage of them too. They don't need to start HRT or "transition" this is bullshit fed to them by their peers online and enabling therapists who just want to make a quick buck rather than curing their mental illness.
21 hours later 5014248 Anonymous
>>5014219
>afford to throw that much money at shrinks
Ok then no one under 30 should be getting srs then. Its fucking permanant. There is no going back from it. You think that young self loathing depressed trans girls should just be allowed to mutilate themselves?
This isnt about me, Iv been legally male for about 10 years now even tho I pass fulltime because i live in a province where you literally have to get srs before u can get your gender changed. I couldnt give a fuck tho, im not slicing up my penis. If i was insecure about it i wouldnt have lasted 10 years of looking like a girl but having a male passport lol.
21 hours later 5014259 Anonymous
>>5014248
>I'm not insecure I just sound like it
You sound insecure about it because you try very hard to feel better by shitting on other people's decisions and needs because they're not your own. Not all insecurities are expressed through jumping at srs.
21 hours later 5014272 Anonymous
>>5014259
top fucking kek. Not everyone is as greedy as you. Im doing just fine with my life but the vast majority of trans girls ARE NOT. Becuase im not a sociopath like you and have empathy and sympathy, i care about what happens to them, and more often than not getting srs is the worst thing they can do when they need to see a non biased therapist.
21 hours later 5014275 Anonymous
>>5014248
Not 30, 25 maybe, at that age you cant be legally claimed as a dependent anymore. 30 makes no fucking sense. In return for barring SRS until age 25 access to HRT therapy must be expanded and made more available for it to be fair imo.
21 hours later 5014278 Anonymous
>>5014159
your sources don't back you up the way you think they do. phantom penis syndrome went away for those that experienced it within weeks after the surgery. the only longest case (an exception) took 6 months. only 30 percent of trans woman even experience this. and the credibility of this article isn't very high to begin with.
21 hours later 5014281 Anonymous
>>5014248
>You think that young self loathing depressed trans girls should just be allowed to mutilate themselves?
Everyone owns their own body and must be allowed control over it, no matter how self-destructive and reckless they decide to be.
Collective ownership of the individual's body is some fucked up shit, far more fucked up than any non-lethal mutilation.
21 hours later 5014289 Anonymous
>>5014272
You're not really showing either empathy nor sympathy. Also stop acting like you're the only trans woman in this discussion who was nonop. I've been that way for years and i still don't spout axewound meme bullshit.
I've known one trans woman who had phantom penis longer than a few days and a lot who never felt it except due to the sheer amount of shit packed inside at first.
21 hours later 5014296 Anonymous
>>5014275
No, fuck you. No age limit on SRS. Maybe 16 at the most.
HRT alone doesn't fully help people with genital dysphoria and I would hate to have had to wait until I was 25 to have got SRS. That would've been hell on Earth. Just because some people can deal with it doesn't mean we all can. SRS has improved my body image immensely, I actually like what I see in the mirror now when naked. It's done wonders for my confidence which in turn effect how other people see and interact with me even if they might not see my genitals directly (beyond being able to wear tight clothing because I couldn't tuck for shit before).
22 hours later 5014305 Anonymous
>>5014296
Idk gurl its not like most people have 30k for surgery at age 18 or 21. I get your point though. I just don't think it would impact most trans people.
22 hours later 5014306 Anonymous
>>5014248
>You think that young self loathing depressed trans girls should just be allowed to mutilate themselves?
You clearly do if you think it's okay for these self loathing and depressed "trans girls" to mutilate their bodies with a cocktail of exogenous hormones.
22 hours later 5014310 Anonymous
>>5014305
Not everyone lives in a place where health care is privatized either. A lot of us can get SRS funded one way or another without actually having to have the money ourselves.
22 hours later 5014314 Anonymous (zj2MFgj.jpg 960x1280 274kB)
>>5014296
>>5014289
hons detected
>it should be absolutely mandatory that the government and tax payers should pay for my genital mutilation that i want to get as a teenager when im deprssed as fuck and cant think clearly
>who needs therapy i totally know what im doing
>omg why do so many trans girls kill themselves its a mystery!
22 hours later 5014317 Anonymous
>>5014305
and because it doesn't impact most it's okay to impact some? what kind of logic is that?
22 hours later 5014318 Anonymous
>>5014314
>hons detected
uh huh
I transitioned as a teen you dumb fuck.
22 hours later 5014319 Anonymous
>>5014314
Nobody said shit about taxpayers so far, please go take your straw somewhere else.
22 hours later 5014324 Anonymous
>>5014314
>hons detected
It's funny you say that when it's hons that usually share opinions like yours of staving off aspects of transition so that we all have to go through the same life of unpassing and misery that you did.
22 hours later 5014331 Anonymous
>>5014314
>why do so many trans girls kill themselves its a mystery!
Because people like yourself try to get them to wait and wait and wait. It's not the trans girls who get srs and transition early killing themselves. It's the ones that have been told they can't get the medical attention they need until they reach X arbitrary age.
22 hours later 5014336 Anonymous (InqSN1u.jpg 509x672 42kB)
>>5014324
not true at all. Every single hon, and i mean EVERY single hon there is is just like pic related and cant wait to get srs.
I challenge you to find a hon that doesnt want srs because i can find 10000 that got it
>>5014319
who do you think pays for it? the fucking teenager?
22 hours later 5014339 Anonymous
>>5014310
Well technically no one in this discussion has actually specified where these standards should be enacted. I sort of just assumed it was the United States where this would hypothetically take place.
>>5014317
It means you can get FFS, buy a home, open a 401k, and have substantial savings built up in addition to possessing the funds for SRS surgery in the time between age 18 and 25. I don't think that's a cruel thing to do toward trans people. Im trans. I see no issue with having any or all of those things. In fact we would probably have less prostitutes/homeless in our community if more people did have those things before trying to get SRS.
22 hours later 5014344 Anonymous
>>5014336
Oh don't get me wrong, sure hons want whatever they want. But they want everyone else to wait to get it like they did. Or not at all if they deem it unnecessary for themselves because then it's unnecessary for everyone, also known as: projection.
Just like what you're doing, hon. :)
22 hours later 5014345 Anonymous
>>5014331
>get them to wait and wait and wait.
for srs not hormones. You should be able to start hormones at 16 because they are mostly not permanant.
SRS on the other hand is extremely permanant and life changing and should require quite a bit of psychiatric evaluation considering all of the people who want it are literally running around with a mental illness.
22 hours later 5014351 Anonymous (02d5245b05a88c08f0244516872f049a.jpg 540x960 52kB)
>>5014344
i started hormones at 18 but nice try hon
22 hours later 5014352 Anonymous
>>5014336
>who do you think pays for it? the fucking teenager?
Their parents insurance should pay for it.
22 hours later 5014356 Anonymous
>>5014339
>It means you can get FFS, buy a home, open a 401k, and have substantial savings built up in addition to possessing the funds for SRS surgery in the time between age 18 and 25. I don't think that's a cruel thing to do toward trans people. Im trans. I see no issue with having any or all of those things. In fact we would probably have less prostitutes/homeless in our community if more people did have those things before trying to get SRS.
Fuck off Jenner
22 hours later 5014360 Anonymous
>>5014352
>Their parents insurance should pay for it.
I would love to see a single insurance company in america that will cover srs of a family member when they are not the one with the insurance them self.
22 hours later 5014368 Anonymous
>>5014345
>start hormones at 16
>not permanent
I'm not sure you know how puberty works or why people advocate for starting HRT at a young age like that. Because if you get effects from HRT while you're that young you can damn well bet the effects are going to be permanent. You're breasts aren't going to disappear if you stop, you'll need to get a mastectomy. Your bones as they're still growing will be shaped by HRT as well.
>>5014351
And I'm the queen of shiva.
22 hours later 5014374 Anonymous
>>5014339
>do what i tell you to do in the exact order i tell you to do it or you won't get the medical attention you need
wtf?
>In fact we would probably have less prostitutes/homeless in our community if more people did have those things before trying to get SRS.
homeless and prostitution is most certainly much more linked to the fact that a lot of young trans people are being kicked out of their homes by their parents and have a hard time finding a job because of being trans and not having received the medical attention they need yet.
22 hours later 5014382 Anonymous
>>5011742
Kekest of Keks
22 hours later 5014384 Anonymous
>>5014374
eh, prostitution is probably due to how expensive transition is and that it's sex-related. Homelessness is definitely due to parents being shitheads though.
22 hours later 5014391 Anonymous
>>5014384
No, prostitution is due to shitty job prospects most of the time. I've been there, something I suspect you can't say.
22 hours later 5014400 Anonymous
I feel like adequate savings and home equity are two things that would definitely prevent homelessness and prostitution =|
22 hours later 5014407 Anonymous
>>5014356
What the fuck manjaw calm ur fucking testes. I'm sorry financial responsibility infuriates you. Regardless of how you feel about that concept or its connotations its still a responsible thing to have and cultivate. It's called being a fucking adult. It's not something you just magically start doing at 50 years old you stupid dumb.
22 hours later 5014423 Anonymous
>>5014407
>build a 401k in an economic crisis
>buy a house during a housing bubble
>on wrong gender ID
>it's okay I did it all look at me
22 hours later 5014432 Anonymous
>>5014339
Not all of us need FFS. For some SRS would do more. It's almost like different people have different needs and should transition differently and not be shoehorned into certain proceeds first just because others have a crimson chin.
22 hours later 5014452 Anonymous
>>5014423
>diversify your retirement fund into non-volatile financial instruments
>buy a house when real estate prices and fixed home loan interest are at an all time low
>you dont need SRS to change the gender marker on your ID
Uh yah. That is indeed what Im saying anon.
23 hours later 5014559 Anonymous
>>5014423
>>5014452
Noice.
24 hours later 5015002 Anonymous
>>5010242
>>5010309
also some people unfortunately don't heal the same as everyone else.
Do you get big fucking keloids or scar like crazy. Then too bad.
25 hours later 5015233 Anonymous
>>5013839
>>5013943
>>5013837
>delusional trannies detected
Yeah nah the huge fucking scars on your mutilated dick-gina is a dead giveaway I it looks nothing like a real vagina
25 hours later 5015248 Anonymous
>>5015233
>the huge fucking scars
So you've literally only seen pictures of people right out of srs. Because there's very simple ways to get rid of the scars.
25 hours later 5015314 Anonymous
>>5014063
It's the opposite really. Suporn has been pretty aggressive about dissing Chet in past years.
28 hours later 5016127 Anonymous
>>5015314
Really? Why?
28 hours later 5016178 Anonymous
>>5016127
It's the kind of aggressive advertisement and shitting on people who don't actually do shit very differently because it helped build his reputation away from being "that surgeon who charged less than Chet"
29 hours later 5016393 Anonymous
>>5016178
Suporn charges almost twice as much as Chett?
Chettawut is about $13000AUD while Suporn is about $25000AUD
30 hours later 5016747 Anonymous
>tfw repressing being a tranny too
doing a bad job of it considering I'm on here again tbh
32 hours later 5017174 Anonymous
>>5009623
>Is this passable?
No and it's also against board rules. This is a blue board.
33 hours later 5017233 Anonymous
>>5015248
>delusion
there's already been actual vagina posted, you have no hope in winning this battle. scars can be minimized but the look will never, ever get close to the reality, because we simply cannot surgically create an entire human organ
>oh look, here's your new heart, we made it out of your liver congrats.
not happening
33 hours later 5017266 Anonymous
>>5017233
you should first look into the SRS procedure before making any conclusions because you very clearly do not know what you are speaking.
34 hours later 5017293 Anonymous
>>5017266
>didn't look at the pictures
>didn't google vagina
mary mother and child you are the literal reason people think trannies are mentally ill.
you are comparing a stained glass window to a snowglobe and telling yourself
>and everyfuckingone else
that it is the same thing, please just stop, for your own dignity and sanity please give up this fiction that a neovagoo is anything remotely like a real vagina except in proximity.
your transisteren of the sane variety will all agree, you are the one being insane, just...drop it and move on
>please
>there is photographic proof ITT
>please
34 hours later 5017321 Anonymous
>>5017293
okay first off one picture of a botched neo-vag that has been tried to fix and doesn't look too bad is not proof. there is no proof because only very few pictures of endresults are on the internet.
second during SRS they don't create an organ. they reshape existing structures to look and function differently. and female and male genitals are homologous, it is nothing like making a new heart out of your liver.
try to ramble less about how i am never going to be a real girl next when you are confronted with your lack of knowledge. it doesn't make you look mentally stable.
34 hours later 5017324 Anonymous
>>5017321
You don't know what you're talking about but keep acting like you do hon.
34 hours later 5017329 Lalalily
>>5017324
classic "nuhu u"-defense
neat to see that this thread is still entertaining
34 hours later 5017331 Anonymous
>>5017324
at least you tried to use less ad homines but next time try to fill your post with arguments, maybe even ones that aren't based on your feels, so it actually has any weight behind it.
34 hours later 5017334 Anonymous
>>5017329
>>5017331
You mean like you and the other trannies here who haven't backup up any of your claims while acting you know what your talking about while also denying the proof set fourth in front of you b people while shit posting and samefagging?
Yeah you can go ahead and leave since you lack the intelligence to form a proper argument.
34 hours later 5017338 Anonymous
>>5017331
>basing your arguments on feels
You really shouldn't do that.
>>5017334
Lmao someone get out the burn heal.
34 hours later 5017351 Lalalily
>>5017334
nice try shifting the burden of proof
you made the claims buddy
but since I'm nice
>claim about scar tissue
Pierce et. al. (1956) demonstrated the conversion of skin to vaginal epithelium, which after twenty years, included normal vaginal PH levels, complete loss of hair, complete loss of pigment, complete loss of sweat glands, and normal vaginal epithelial glycogen levels.
and
The histology of the tissue has changed. It also responds to hormones in an identical way as does a normal vagina, with "cyclic cornification and mucification" (Sherfey, 1973). The presence of ovaries is not a necessity
>lubrication
That is why lubrication is a transudate phenomenon, the source being dilation of the capillaries that surround the barrel and the subsequent squeezing out of fluid through the vaginal walls, which in normal and artificially constructed vaginas have been shown to be a functioning two-way membrane. (Masters & Johnson, 1966).
not to mention the amount of post-ops with normal vaginas who posted theirs here and on other pages with and without telling that they are trans with positive feedback, the amount of post-ops who experience self lubrication to a normal cis-degree
you'd do good to do some actual research and maybe not cherry pick botched results who had to be fixed
42 hours later 5018120 Anonymous
>>5014069
kik I can't tell if you're just trolling the trolls or you're actually a dipshit closet pol homo.
for anyone who doesn't immediately recognise it, this is a VERY common image of a ...you guessed it, SRS vagina. Always posted on trans boards as an example. afaik no one else has made an image like this of theirs.
It's hard to make out but that's kind of the point- you can just hardly see the scars hidden in the tan lines/ near the leg folds. All western surgeons do this today.
you see most neovags like the picture on the right (or op pic) because they're taken at a doctors office and meant to display the most features, taken right after dialation/depth checking. there's no point in a doctor showing anything like pic 1, its just folds of skin and everyone gets that
/thread
42 hours later 5018145 Anonymous
>>5010161
most pics of SRS vaginas you can find online look very similar though
I've seen the occasional good looking one but the ratio is far from making me comfortable to get it myself.
43 hours later 5018407 Anonymous
>>5009623
why are vaginas so disgusting. oh gosh
46 hours later 5018904 Anonymous
My genitals don't really make me very dysphoric at all. Thankfully we live in a day and age where your genitals don't define your gender, so I don't really feel the need to get srs. If I ever got it, it would only be so I wouldn't have to fuss with anti-androgens and I could wear leggings and bathing suits tuck free.
48 hours later 5019431 Anonymous
>>5013968
Sexual identity disorder?
49 hours later 5019552 Anonymous
>>5018407
that's not a vagina, relax.
49 hours later 5019571 Anonymous
>>5018120
>ayy lmao
shm thb fma
sorry about your dick, bro
49 hours later 5019670 Anonymous
>>5013848
>you can make the feelings go away
I pray that you live to see just how blind a statement this is. You can't ever just make feelings go away. That's not how anything works. You can only stuff them away for so long.
49 hours later 5019694 Anonymous
>>5017351
>Pierce et. al. (1956)
>>5017351
nice, love this copypasta.
>ah yes, the mythical Pierce et al
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc e/article/pii/S0002961056800032
>one single patient
>a Negress, aged 33
>In a typical case of aplasia the vulva and clitoris are normal. The introitus is covered across by epethelium
This "study" shows that if you surgically restore a natural female vagina, it will, in fact, become pretty much a vagina. In a female. This has never been shown in a trans neovagina because it doesn't happen.
Now you can bring up Alessandrescu et AL (1996) and pretend that study matters too
I won't even get into the lubrication thing, you just don't have the tissue to secrete anything other than some skin oil and maybe sweat. It's not even close.
You really want to back up these silly claims? make a video of you lubricating. We can see it side by side with natural female vaginas and tell for ourselves. I'll wait.
>
50 hours later 5019851 Anonymous
>>5019670
Eh, while this isn't true, I agree with the overall sentiment. Shutting your feelings off is a ton of work, and most people just play it off as "oh bro just stop feeling".
I know anecdotes aren't really evidence, but I've been able to shut off all sorts of emotions off since childhood. It takes conscious effort, but if I want them off, they're turning off. Effort required scales with the intensity of the emotion, in my experience.
50 hours later 5019966 Anonymous
>>5013993
To oppose SRS in favor of CBT is an act of insanity on the same level of "praying the gay away" or rejecting professional medical advice and treatment in favor of faith healing. Those that oppose SRS are dangerous idiots and a threat to the health and prosperity of trans people everywhere.
50 hours later 5019996 Anonymous
>>5019851
>I've been able to shut off all sorts of emotions off since childhood
This literally isn't how emotions function. Repression isn't an effective coping technique. The only thing you're turning off is your ability to perceive the effects of your emotions, which means you are less in control of yourself, and less connected to reality, and the world you live in.
50 hours later 5020033 Anonymous
>>5019996
I don't use repression. I use objectification and accelerated acceptance.
50 hours later 5020049 Anonymous
>>5020033
I'd be interested to hear what you mean by that.
50 hours later 5020088 Anonymous
>>5017351
Just joining thread, interesting didn't know about this.
Fuck that surgery looks painful though. I had extremely minor surgery on my genitalia .. hurt so bad, can't imagine.
50 hours later 5020100 Anonymous
>>5020049
The first thing I do is try to slow my breathing. To ground and center, as it were. Then I take the emotion and let it wash over me.
I keep my breathing slow and run the implications of it through my mind over and over again, telling myself "this is how you feel, and it's real. There's no changing reality, so you're free to move on.". I focus on it, and if I start to get overwhelmed I regulate by breathing again. This is the accelerated acceptance step.
If I'm still struggling at that point, I try to visualize the feeling being sucked out of me and being turned into something else, something external. Once it's externalized, it's an unfortunate reality (in the case of a bad emotion), but it's also not a part of me anymore.
It helps if I practice. I dedicate some nights to thinking of things that make me angry, sad or otherwise emotionally unstable (like how unfair the world is, or how much I hate my ex's grandfather) and practice calming myself down using these techniques.
Eventually it gets really easy and fast for small stuff. I've been using this method of emotional control since I was 13 and it works well enough for me, but I'm not a therapist so I can't say it'll work for everyone. Maybe I've got a neurological quirk that makes it work.
I'm not one of those 'cbt can cure dysphoria' folks though. I'd never advocate using this in place of transition. If anything I'd do it as a supplement or companion thing.
51 hours later 5020200 Anonymous
>>5019966
you don't have to oppose SRS/hormone therapy to think that there needs to be some kind of rigor and guidnace around how often it should be done, it's very very clear we are smack in the middle of a diagnosis trend, this happens all the time, medicine and pscyotherpay had fads just like fashion or architecture and why consequences that are so potentially dire and life altering, we definitely need to take a conservative approach to who and how people can get SRS.
we've already seen a wave of detransitioners that were basically peer pressured into be trans and then finding out it they were just plain gay or non gender role compliant.
we're facing a big backlash if things continue the way they are, it won't be pretty.
51 hours later 5020240 Anonymous
>>5020088
Patients walk like John Wayne off his horse the first week or two. The gory details I'll avoid otherwise. It heals pretty well in a few months though.
51 hours later 5020270 Anonymous
>>5020100
I appreciate the thought you've put into this, but when you say:
>I try to visualize the feeling being sucked out of me and being turned into something else, something external
what you are describing is repression, or maybe depersonalization. It makes you feel more distant from your own emotional state, so your awareness is dulled. Also, I'm not sure how you define a "bad" emotion. Does that mean an emotion you find uncomfortable? If your goal is radical acceptance, then affixing moral judgement onto your emotions seems like an obstacle to that goal. Discomfort is unavoidable, and is neither good nor bad.
Actions and words have consequences, but emotions simply arise and fall away. You can attune yourself to that rising and falling, and be aware of the impact they can have on your words and actions. But you can't really speed up that process, or slow it down either.
Anyway, it sounds like you're investigating a technique, and I hope you continue working on it. Good luck!
51 hours later 5020294 Anonymous
>>5014351
PLEASE for the love of god fix your eye-brows. aside from your chin it's the biggest give away. ugly chicks have eyebrows like that. are you even trying?
51 hours later 5020307 Anonymous
>>5020270
> repression/depersonalization
Huh. I see. Never heard it called that before. I do kind of feel as though that one isn't as good as actually accepting/integrating the emotion, which is why it's my last resort
> Also, I'm not sure how you define a "bad" emotion
> Does that mean an emotion you find uncomfortable?
Yes. I usually only use this on 'bad' emotions like anger. If letting it get out of control would cause me to do something against my moral compass like attack someone, or I simply don't like the way it makes me feel, then I place a high value on finding stability and tranquility as quickly as possible.
I highly value peace as a state of mind. I feel like I'm not being true to my ideal self if I'm not calm as often as possible.
> But you can't really speed up that process, or slow it down either.
You might be right, but it certainly doesn't feel that way.
> Anyway, it sounds like you're investigating a technique, and I hope you continue working on it. Good luck!
Thanks! Will do.
51 hours later 5020339 Anonymous
>>5020307
I would argue that one can learn to express anger constructively and compassionately. Simply avoiding the experience of it can create major problems. Of course, if you feel out of control, that's something that has to be managed carefully. But if it's just strong discomfort, it can be channeled into creative expression. Anger is often a direct result of some deeper fear, and exploring that genesis can sometimes transform the experience of the emotion.
51 hours later 5020340 Anonymous
So we're finally allowed to post nudity here, I see.
51 hours later 5020345 Anonymous
>>5020270
I'd kinda agree with that. There was a point when I was nonop where I did it more and more and I definitely felt disconnected from that region although less so than before hrt. Not that every trans woman gets there or at the same rhythm at least, but I waited to make up my mind on srs longer than I should have.
52 hours later 5020425 Anonymous
>>5019571
>madden acronyms
lol you mad, bruh?
52 hours later 5020458 Anonymous
what if I think most vaginas are gross and I want to keep my dick for practical reasons? My therapist says that I'm not trans then...
52 hours later 5020573 Anonymous
>>5020345
I'm really frozen about this right now. About all surgeries, actually. I need FFS, BA and SRS if I actually expect to be perceived as a woman by most people. But it's really not... I have a lot of worries about that.
53 hours later 5020735 Anonymous
>>5020573
I realized at some point that a lot of my fears were bullshit memes, especially for SRS. Also BA is something that most trans women should seriously put off at least 6-8 years because it keeps growing for a long time.
53 hours later 5020739 Anonymous
>>5020458
Tell your therapist that their job is to help you not preach to you, tell them that you're finding a new therapist immediately and not to expect another dime from you. Make sure you follow through on that btw.
53 hours later 5020748 Anonymous
>>5020458
My therapist would say your therapist is full of shit and has seen a lot of girls who just lied about it because they were mostly narrative-fitting to a T except they didn't mind that thing, at least initially.
53 hours later 5020845 Anonymous
>>5020735
That's not what my endo said. I'm over two years on hormones and in the range of normal female levels, and in my late 30s. I think it's a little naive to expect much more growth. Not that I don't want it!
53 hours later 5020862 Anonymous
>>5020573
>SRS if I actually expect to be perceived as a woman by most people.
As someone who's post-op. This is the wrong reason to get srs. You should get it for yourself, your own self comfort, not because of other people.
If you have genital dysphoria, go for it. It helped me immensely. Do not go for it if you're fine with your current genitals and only want it to make your relationships with others easier.
53 hours later 5020882 Anonymous
>>5020573
I'd save BA for last or at least combine it with another operation if you have tons of money. Body and clothes in general matter more than large breasts I think, there are so many no-tits cis girls who are hot as hell. FFS super important for some, SRS a huge comfort/ confidence boost.
>>5020735
Supposedly they grow more after orchi/ srs, but that's just anecdotes from my therapist about patients. Crossing my fingers that the hormone balance helps, even though my levels have always been female normal.
53 hours later 5020898 Anonymous
>>5009623
seeing as we are posting post op vaginas someone explain this wizardry to me..I take hormones and can't cum at all this girl had her balls removed and vagina made can cum this must be fake.
http://xhamster.com/movies/2594860/ incredible_squirting_from_tgirl_new _pussy.html
53 hours later 5020905 Anonymous
>>5020882
They grew more for me after prog, after stopping for a week due to fucking up appointment timing and restarting, etc. It's more magic than science at this point.
>>5020898
Glands.
53 hours later 5020911 Anonymous
>>5020898
Wee wee.
53 hours later 5020916 Anonymous
>>5020905
im confused does she not take anti-androgens anymore? like my only fear for not getting srs is thinking it would leave me a frigid woman in capable of any sexual pleasure that and being hideous, late transitioning, and lack of money.
seriously though hrt pretty much already did that lol.
53 hours later 5020932 Anonymous
>>5020862
I don't like my junk. But it doesn't cause me active discomfort, apart from getting sore too easily from tucking 90% of the time. If I could have the right biz, I would - but I'm not confident the current surgery will feel close enough to the real thing, and I'm really scared to risk loss of sensation or the ability to have an orgasm.
I've had some success by studying pictures of side-by-side genital dimorphic fetal development and sort of... visualizing or mentally connecting my physical bits to the corresponding bits where they "would have been". And also suggests appropriate ... treatment. It's not as effective if I ... you know, look down, but otherwise it's kinda... sorta... okay? Idk, I get to enjoy some things at least.
Ugh so much gray area why can't things ever be simple.
53 hours later 5020941 Anonymous
https://chaturbate com/cassiebrooks
/b/ and /pol/ are talking with her
What do you think of LGBT cams?
53 hours later 5020949 Anonymous
>>5020941
i think we are all going to get banned for posting links but your just way too thirsty go pimp your hoe elsewhere. people are discussing shit here
54 hours later 5021014 Anonymous
>>5020916
If you're postop you're not producing t and not going to need AAs. also it's very possible to get clear seminal fluid on AAs or post orchi and it doesn't come from your balls. It comes from glands that have analogues in cis women to begin with and some trans women definitely do get a lot of it from there, but so do some cis women.
For sensation, Brassard is definitely top notch, I heard Meltzer is good for it too and Bowers while she doesn't prioritize prettiness, does prioritize sensation above everything. Suporn > Chet of the big two thais there. But will all the big names it's so close as to be meaningless.
61 hours later 5022296 Anonymous (1436671941374.jpg 615x861 99kB)
>>5018120
GRISsing it gives no results
source?
And surgeon?
I want to get a good surgeon that can work a miracle like that pic.
61 hours later 5022301 Anonymous
>>5020898
this confirmed fake
61 hours later 5022304 Anonymous
>>5022296
dude thats a real vagina, there is no surgery to get you there
61 hours later 5022305 Anonymous
>>5022296
Pro tip the anon you're replying to is trolling and it's a cis vagina. One that you can never make your mutilated dick look like, sorry bro
61 hours later 5022306 Anonymous
>>5022304
>>5022305
eh
figured as much
Hard to tell who's trolling who at this point, but with so much disinfo flying around it's impossible to find the truth sometimes
62 hours later 5022376 Anonymous
>>5022301
Lol what I've seen the model before srs vulva surgery is a hell of a drug who confirmed it by the way?
63 hours later 5022415 Anonymous (1428246923793.png 1040x1000 1170kB)
i'd rather suck a girls cock than touch that thing
65 hours later 5022726 Anonymous
>>5022376
>>5020898
female squirters squirt out of their uretha, genius. this is fake, some porn jiz(cornstarch/water) was put in her neovag and this was staged.
holy shit, how can trannys not now the most basic stuff about female anatomy if they want to female so bad?
65 hours later 5022755 Anonymous
>>5014044
>very clear scientific definition
>example is a fucking kid cutting up a book
You really don't seem to understand how scientific and medical terms differ from the common usage of some words.
65 hours later 5022768 Anonymous
>>5014244
Trans people are so rare and their treatment so cheap relative to most healthcare costs that it really wouldn't be worth it for making cash compared to all the money in pain-killers and anti anxiety/depression stuff.
65 hours later 5022775 Anonymous
>>5009623
You should have kept your dick
65 hours later 5022793 Anonymous
>>5014351
holy shit is that you lol?!
no wonder you're so buttmad projecting on everyone in the thread and calling them hons
kek this is just sad
72 hours later 5024282 Anonymous
>>5017233
>because we simply cannot surgically create an entire human organ
but we can
and have
in fact this is one of the most popular scientific fields right now
you're pretty ignorant dude
100 hours later 5030555 Anonymous
>>5014351
proof that age is way less important than genetics.
103 hours later 5031396 Anonymous
>>5024282
name one.
117 hours later 5033736 Anonymous
>>5024282
No we can't, just something that resembles what it is supposed to become. But it's never fully functional.
145 hours later 5039753 Afrikaner
>>5009623
Mmmmm Arby's
146 hours later 5039852 Anonymous
Why hasn't this been deleted? Since this has been on the board, there have been threads that have gotten deleted for including nudity and /soc/ shit
Fucking mods have a boner for trannies.
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