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2015-09-30 01:27 5008019 Annicole Trans Help General #80 (Trans Help General.png 694x907 213kB)
This is the Trans Help General thread. We'll try to help you here with everything related to being transgender.
This includes questioning, appearance, daily trans problems, medical info, general info and other interesting stuff to name a few.
MTF, FTM and questioning people are all welcome here to help eachother and discuss possible solutions.
You can also share your transgender related stories here. Just came out? Or you just need to get something off your chest?
Maybe something wonderful happened today! We'll be glad to hear it, it's always good to know we're not going through this alone.
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What will hormones do?
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Previous thread: >>4944640
1 hours later 5008139 Anonymous
Does anyone in the UK have any experience with going through the NHS for 'mones and stuff?
Is it as bad as I've heard with the waiting lists and stuff?
4 hours later 5008560 Anonymous
I want to try maximizing my waist, hips and ass. I'm 19, doing HRT for about six months now and I've always hide wide-ish hips but I think I should capitalize on that if I can. Anybody have success with corset training or sculpt wear? Preferably sculpt wear as it sounds like less work, no lacing up.
4 hours later 5008573 Vivi
>>5008560
2nd this, I'm interested in any experiences people have had
7 hours later 5009095 Anonymous
>>5008139
http://bytenoise.co.uk/oh-for-fucks -sake/mascara-and-hope.pdf
This pdf explains the experience.
>Is it as bad as I've heard with the waiting lists and stuff?
And yeah it's pretty bad.
7 hours later 5009197 Anonymous (1443572371248.jpg 1280x720 80kB)
>>5008139
>Is it as bad as I've heard with the waiting lists and stuff?
2 years waiting since my referral from a psych. Yes it's god damn terrible.
10 hours later 5009860 Anonymous
>>5008139
it really depends on luck. Some people get an appointment within 6 months, others have to wait years.
Your best bet is to go private tbh
10 hours later 5009931 Anonymous
>>5008139
My first appointment is on Monday. I got referred last November.
They're saying these days that the waiting time is, on average, about 13 months and you need another appointment a few months afterwards before hormones.
On the subject, has anyone actually been to an appointment with the NHS fairly recently? What should I expect? I'm super far from being seen as female right now, I have very little feminine clothing...
Not really sure how to prepare.
12 hours later 5010452 Anonymous (456789.png 1154x388 74kB)
does this look right
16 hours later 5011565 Anonymous
pls respond
>>5007296
16 hours later 5011585 Anonymous (IMG_20150930_231333.jpg 1200x1600 258kB)
I live in America. What hormones should I take, and why? And also if I got surgery down there, could sex be possible. Even if it was a BBC, and I'm being serious.
16 hours later 5011602 Anonymous
uhh so if I want to trial HRT, how much should I order?
20 hours later 5012088 Anonymous
>>5011602
1-3 months
>>5010452
looks good.
>>5011585
americans generally take spironolactone and estrofem/estrace. Yes sex would be possible. Not sure if BBC would fit, the neovagina is tighter and less deep than a normal vag so maybe not.
20 hours later 5012163 Anonymous
>>5009860
What private places would you recommend? I really don't know much about this
20 hours later 5012166 Anonymous
>>5011602
Are you asking about dosages or months worth?
21 hours later 5012263 Anonymous
>>5012166
well..I guess months' worth was the intention but it's always good to get more input on dosages...
21 hours later 5012305 Anonymous
Transgirl in the US here
My doctor recently started me on leuprorelin and I wanted to know if anyone could tell me what I should expect in terms of side effects/potency.
30 hours later 5014014 Anonymous
>>5012305
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leupr orelin#Adverse_effects
31 hours later 5014086 Anonymous
Hi /thg/, I recently realised I'm trans. At least I think so.
I've been lurking here for a while (it's my first post yay) and the more I find out about becoming a woman the better I feel. I think it's the right direction for me, but still I feel slight discomfort; I'm not sure if I actually am trans or is it just another trick my mind is playing on me. I'm 20 and have history of anxieties, depression and other mental problems so I don't really trust myself a lot.
I'm seeing my therapist on monday to talk about this, so far the only one who knows is my sister.
How did you become sure you're in the wrong body? Anyone had a similar feeling?
32 hours later 5014529 Anonymous
>>5014086
I'm kind of in the same situation, with very fluctuating certainty. I can 100% say that I would rather have been born female, yet I am terrified of the implications of transitioning and I feel it's not worth it when weighing them against how comfortable enough I currently feel.
33 hours later 5014579 Anonymous
>>5014529
Yeah, I'd rather have been born female, and every small step towards transitioning, even looking at other mtf pictures feels good and right. I'm just afraid I'm just going through some phase, since all these feelings and thoughts are completely new. I've crossdressed secretly (not even my sis knows) and sometimes fantasised about being a girl, but thought it was just a perversion.
33 hours later 5014605 Anonymous
>>5014086
By the way, I've read something interesting, that the difference between trans people and people thinking they're trans because of OCD is that the latter only feel anxious at the idea of something being "wrong" with their gender identity whereas the former feel relieved when imagining themselves as the other sex.
33 hours later 5014626 Anonymous (57527956.jpg 500x329 108kB)
>>5014086
>I don't really trust myself a lot.
Yeah, I get that. I'm thinking for me that's mostly because I did trust myself and talked about it when I was like five but my parents said I was wrong. Well, I wasn't.
>How did you become sure you're in the wrong body?
Eh, it's still my body, not really the wrong one. I wouldn't be me without this neuro-soma-mismatch bullshit. But what made me sure that transitioning was the right thing was noticing how much better I felt when pursuing steps towards it. Things like shaving literally everything except my scalp, crossdressing, voice training, DIY, going official.
>>5014529
>I am terrified of the implications of transitioning and I feel it's not worth it when weighing them against how comfortable enough I currently feel.
It gets worse the older you get, as everyone says.
33 hours later 5014630 Anonymous
>>5014605
...Stop scaring me.
I really feel good about being trans and the thought of transition. I've just always doubted what I feel, trying to 'de-personalize' myself. Now I feel like going to the right direction.
Also I haven't been diagnosed as OCD, either.
33 hours later 5014731 Anonymous
>>5014630
Believe me I scared myself when typing this.
I have a history of looking up mental disorders and hoping to relate to understand why I never developed proper socialization/intimacy/self-esteem skills, and gender dysphoria is the first that "clicks". I think my current depression/anxiety episode stems from the conflict between my recent thoughts and my obvious internalized transphobia.
41 hours later 5016948 Anonymous (1430691311407.jpg 806x806 45kB)
>mfw identifying with so many things the previous few posters have been discussing
It's the "good" days that throw me, and I've been having a large number of consecutive good days recently. Though I suppose that may just be to make up for the ~four months before this that I spent constantly obsessing over this shit.
42 hours later 5017074 Anonymous
>>5016948
The good days throw me off the most because that's when all the doubts come back. I start to worry that it's all just my brain playing tricks on me.
42 hours later 5017162 Anonymous
>>5017074
Exactly. Even though I know that those days are common to dysphoria, they still give me lots of doubts because I question how I could ever have felt wrong.
42 hours later 5017169 Anonymous (1442056208378.jpg 1018x639 1075kB)
if I want to trial, is this the way it's got to go? i'd rather minimize the time on only spiro because I want a fair assessment
50 hours later 5017812 Anonymous (deprestion_by_deadmoochie-d8exj0t.jpg 263x200 7kB)
so how do you shave ever day? my face hurts if i do it two days in a row and breaks out in little red bumps but manly is to painfully so how do i make it not hurt?or will hrt make my face hair thinner so it dosnt hurt so much?or should i just .......wax my face?
50 hours later 5017819 Anonymous
Anyone have links to those who don't transition or at least de-transition?
50 hours later 5017922 Anonymous
Quick question: Will my breasts ever stop hurting for good? I've been on HRT since January, and it seems like they've been at the very least tender 9/10 days? They have grown pretty rapidly, so I think that maybe they just hurt from expanding, but if that's the case, will they hurt until they're completely done growing?
54 hours later 5018467 Anonymous
>>5008019
Seeking mtf gf
You must be nearby (I'm in the 414)
You must be into horror and sci fi
You must like doing psychedelics
You must be attractive and fun
54 hours later 5018526 Anonymous
>>5018467
Chaser go away
54 hours later 5018538 Anonymous
>>5018526
Literally get raped by someone with AIDS and herpes.
55 hours later 5018615 Anonymous
>having good day, no/low dysphoria, manage to mostly convince myself I'm happy as a guy
>see someone post a page from a comic with lesbians being romantic
>suddenly reminded I'll never have anything like that
>even the thought of myself as a guy with a girl is uncomfortable
>feel like shit for the rest of the day
please tell me I'm not the only one
55 hours later 5018633 Anonymous
>>5008019
GENDER DYSPHORIA IS A MENTAL ILLNESS
TREATMENT THROUGH HORMONAL REBALANCING AND SURGERY WILL ONLY MUTILATE YOUR BODY AND TREAT SYMPTOMS OF THE ILLNESS
SEEK HELP TODAY
TAKE BACK YOUR LIFE
DON'T FALL INTO THE TRAP
55 hours later 5018683 Anonymous
>>5018633
> GENDER DYSPHORIA IS A MENTAL ILLNESS
It's a mental abnormality. Exactly which category it goes into is hotly debated.
> Treatment will only mutilate your body and treat symptoms
Mutilation is a value judgement, so eh, everyone will have to decide if they consider treatment 'mutilation' for themselves. They can't just take your word for it. And yes, it will treat the symptoms. You'd take painkillers for your messed up back if you had one, right?
> take back your life
Good advice.
> don't fall into the trap
It isn't a trap, it's a neurological aberration. You cannot fall into it. It just happens.
If your complaint is that there isn't a cure for gender dysphoria, I say: no shit. Good luck figuring out how to re-wire the patient's neurology to fix alter perception of self in a controlled, predictable fashion. If you can do that you'll cure far more than just gender dysphoria. You'd be able to do just about anything with that level of neurological control.
55 hours later 5018714 Anonymous
How can I tell if I have a fetish for this that I'm taking too seriously or if I'm actually trans?
55 hours later 5018724 Anonymous
>>5018714
You should be asking if transitioning is what you really want before even caring if it's a fetish or not. There's nothing long with incorporating a fetish into your lifestyle. People do that all the time.
But to answer your question, if your dysphoria flares up even in non-sexual contexts, it's probably fetish related.
56 hours later 5018805 Anonymous
>>5018683
>Mental abnormality.
It causes significant distress in the person suffering from it, to the point where they actually go through with massive changes to their body because of it. That's mental illness. If it were just an abnormality, people wouldn't go through with transitioning.
>And yes, it will treat the symptoms.
Which isn't a good thing, nor is it the goal. The goal is to cure it. That is why psychology is superior to psychiatry; the psychiatrist is a pill pusher, a greedy person who just wants to make a profit by satisfying your basic symptoms and claiming that you're cured. The psychologist can cure you, but it takes time.
>No shit
How can we possibly find a way to cure it if everyone who has it is just going out and getting surgery and considering themselves cured? We need test groups, theorists working with them for years, decades even, in order to find a way to cure them. Who's going to be willing to go through with that? It HAS to be THIS community. And if you all consider transitioning to be good enough, then that work will NEVER be done.
56 hours later 5018809 Anonymous
I am planing on going MtF. I have recently been seeing a councilor about my transgendered feelings. They confirmed my thoughts just after looking at me. Apparently my body is so fucked up that its been producing massive amounts of estrogen that have given me D-cups and forced the rest of my body to take on a rather feminine shape despite being a biological male. I'm currently working to lose massive amounts of weight because Estrogen and Testosterone have not mixed well. What I'm worried about is taking the antiandrogen and boosting the rest of my hormones. Will it really be worth it in the long run? I look at the trans women in Thailand and I want that so desperately, but I fear becoming some fifth wave feminist landwhale; like I am now just without a beard. I want to know I'll be alright.
As I wrote above, I looked back over the rest and saw the "only treating the symptoms." My other issue is its doubtful I'll ever get much past growing things naturally and wearing a corset to get a nice waist. I have something called EDS and I've had 5 surgeries on my feet alone just so I could walk for an hour before collapsing in pain. Treating symptoms is all you can do sometimes, and my surgeries have been barely worth it as is, so going back to what I said before, I am desperately worried whether or not it will be worth it in the end. Do people feel like a woman just after Hormones? I know some have to go for the full surgery and the breast augmentations. At what point will it not be worth it?
56 hours later 5018828 Anonymous
>>5018724
>You should be asking if transitioning is what you really want before even caring if it's a fetish or not.
I think I'd be happier if I was a girl, if I got started transitioning, but I don't really know if I will be happier. Maybe I just think that the grass is greener. I don't want to make a major life decision on just a hunch that it'd make me happier.
I don't know if I even want to be happy.
>There's nothing long(wrong?) with incorporating a fetish into your lifestyle. People do that all the time.
Personally, I don't like the idea of making a major change to my life based on a sexual deviance.
>But to answer your question, if your dysphoria flares up even in non-sexual contexts, it's probably fetish related.
What? I would've thought that if it's a fetish it would be only in sexual contexts.
Either way, I don't really know exactly what dysphoria is/feels like. If it's like being depressed, feeling awful about myself, and/or wishing I was female, then that happens in both sexual and non-sexual contexts.
56 hours later 5018867 Anonymous
>>5018805
> If it were just an abnormality, people wouldn't go through with transitioning.
Not everyone transitions, only the extreme cases. Even so, there's nothing wrong with massive body changes. Not everyone is a disgusting body purist.
> Which isn't a good thing, nor is it the goal. The goal is to cure it.
Medicine has multiple goals but the primary is to reduce suffering. Yes, a curative approach would be better, but in the meantime, palliative treatments are a good thing. We don't stop handing out morphine for chronic pain while we wait for a curative approach.
You're making a false dilemma here. You can work on both a curative treatment and try to reduce the suffering of existing patients at the same time.
> How can we possibly find a way to cure it if everyone who has it is just going out and getting surgery and considering themselves cured?
It's a pretty bold claim to say that everyone considers themselves 'cured'. And not everyone is going to want to transition. Furthermore there is a powerful financial incentive for having comprehensive neurological understanding. Like I said, the kind of understanding that could cure dysphoria would give you unspeakable amounts of power over the human psyche.
Furthermore, even if you do develop a curative approach (which will happen because even someone who transitions can benefit from proper perception function), here's the interesting thing: it will play along *with* the palliative treatments. If you have complete morphological, surgical control over the body as well as the power to cure dysphoria you can make *anyone* comfortable in *any* body. We'll be a post-gender species at that point. Changing sex will be like changing clothes.
> the psychiatrist is a pill pusher, a greedy person who just wants to make a profit by satisfying your basic symptoms and claiming that you're cured. The psychologist can cure you, but it takes time.
Either way this is irrelevant - it is the neurologist who will develop the cure.
56 hours later 5018920 Anonymous
>>5018828
> What? I would've thought that if it's a fetish it would be only in sexual contexts.
Sorry, I missed a qualifier there. If it flares up even in non-sexual contexts, it probably *isn't* fetish related.
> Either way, I don't really know exactly what dysphoria is/feels like.
You're gonna have to talk to a therapist then. I was never diagnosed and my 'trans-feels' went away when I was a teenager so I don't know if it actually counts as dysphoria, but I did occasionally feel as though parts of me were disgusting for being male. I really hated my body and facial hair and meticulously kept myself smooth. I wouldn't have minded a slimmer jawline either. But other parts of me I didn't mind being male. I was a pretty fucked up kid.
If you can't or won't talk to a therapist, perhaps try coming up with a way to 'simulate' living as a girl? There aren't too many ways to do this but perhaps you could try doing really intense makeup and prosthetic makeup, then go to a social gathering far from your normal life? Basically do everything involved in transitioning but using less-permanent methods.
56 hours later 5018999 Anonymous
>>5017922
Once the growth period ends, yes.
57 hours later 5019022 Anonymous
Did therapy and I'm not trans, I don't think i'm trans but
>tfw walking around a store and see myself in a tall mirror
>tfw i'm huge and i have wide shoulders and chest and i'm tall and look like a big man
>tfw i have a feminine face and i'm thin but i'm just a tall and lanky man
>tfw felt bad, couldn't stop thinking about it all day
>tfw depression coming back
>tfw realise I stopped taking hormones a week ago roughly
Is this just my hormones making me weird? Will it go? I don't want to transition, i don't know what the fuck to do.
57 hours later 5019093 Anonymous
>>5019022
Why did you think or at least consider whether you were trans in the first place, and why did you then go on to think that you're not?
Adjusting your sex hormone balance can cause mental effects, including depression; they should subside after a while. Regardless, you felt bad about the masculinity of your body, rather than just being depressed for purely chemical reasons because of your hormones; that's something to be concerned about, especially if it persists.
No-one wants to transition; even trans people just want to be the sex they feel they should be, without having to go through anything like that. Transitioning exists because it helps reduce dysphoria, and helps the person to deal with it better; it has disadvantages but it's hoped that the advantages will outweigh them (considering that that alternative is growing old and dying as a lonely, self-loathing, painfully repressed man or woman, whichever is the one you don't want to be).
How long were you on hormones for before you stopped?
57 hours later 5019118 Anonymous
>>5018633
you are correct but nothing else has helped so until you give me a real alternative that is more than "seek help," you're not helping at all
57 hours later 5019122 Anonymous
>>5019093
Because I always wanted to be a girl. Always. Since i was a little kid. As years went along it started upsetting me more and more often, until i just caved and became suicidal a while back.
I decided i wasn't because the depression subsided when i quit therapy and didn't mind too much, but i went on hormones at the time but i wasnt too bothered by my gender and i didnt want to transition.
I was on hormones for 3 months, and then ran out of money.
I can't do the depression thing again. I really feel like my life is closing in this is just getting worse and worse. I sort of see coming out/transitioning with dread, like it's the end, same as just killing myself, but i don't know what else to do.
I don't even know why it upsets me, it just does.
57 hours later 5019185 Anonymous
>>5019122
>always wanted to be a girl
>depressed over masculinity
>was suicidal from dysphoria
>not trans
Seriously, 4chan isn't going to be able to help you much here. From the information you've given, you sound like you're likely to be trans. Go back into therapy and explore it more thoroughly.
Even if one doesn't feel as bad (even for a relatively long time), that doesn't necessarily mean they've stopped being trans; feelings fluctuate and vary. In many cases they come back just as strong if not stronger. You said you weren't "too bothered" recently, does that mean there was still some dysphoria but it just wasn't crippling like before? Cis people aren't directly bothered by their gender at all.
58 hours later 5019221 Anonymous
>>5019185
It was still there... Just... Fuck, i don't want this, i'd rather die. I've been over it in my head a million times over. I just want to give up on this shit.
My therapist said it didn't feel like I was trans. I concluded, i was fine. I just need to find a way to get over it, it was like some fucked up phase where i turned a weird thing as a kid into a big deal.
58 hours later 5019350 Anonymous
>>5019221
>It was still there... Just... Fuck, i don't want this, i'd rather die. I've been over it in my head a million times over. I just want to give up on this shit.
No-one wants this. Transitioning can be less bad than the alternative (doing nothing, letting it get worse when it's bad enough already), at least. Maybe it'll even turn out okay in the end; you can't know for sure. But if you are trans then you can be sure that you're never going to be happy with yourself if you just repress it.
Thinking about this all the time is also a symptom of being trans.
>My therapist said it didn't feel like I was trans
What was her reasoning behind that? You certainly seem to feel like you're trans.
>it was like some fucked up phase where i turned a weird thing as a kid into a big deal.
Are you sure? What makes you think that?
Perhaps try a different therapist, even if only to get a different opinion/perspective.
58 hours later 5019378 Anonymous
>>5008019
Being trans seems like too much work and more trouble than it's worth. Why can't the PC shills shut up and let science find a real cure for this mental illness?
58 hours later 5019386 Anonymous
>>5019350
The therapist said it was because i was so uncertain and vague and sketchy it seemed more like an issue with low self esteem. Said he might be wrong but thats how it FELT, to him. And also because i said I didn't feel like I was female, i just sorta wanted to be
59 hours later 5019541 Anonymous
>>5019386
The way I see it:
Gender is a very subjective thing, and talking and thinking bout it is very emotional, which makes it very hard to explain; being vague is normal.
The uncertainty is expected, considering the reason you're even at the therapist to figure out whether or not you're trans.
Men with low self-esteem don't want to be girls because of it.
Regardless, you obviously feel dysphoria over your body and gender, so that still needs to be explained.
>And also because i said I didn't feel like I was female, i just sorta wanted to be
Many trans people report feeling like that. It's just different ways of conceptualising things, kind of like how many cis people don't really think about their gender; some explicitly "feel female", while others are just content with their female body. The ones who don't explicitly think of themselves as women don't want to be male or not want to be female, they just conceptualise their identity differently.
People also have different definitions and conceptualisations of the differences between sex and gender. If you clearly make a distinction between being female (having a female body), and being a woman (having a female/feminine identity), then you will probably be more willing to say you already consider yourself to be woman, and just want to be female too; if you don't care to make that distinction, then you might not feel right considering yourself to be a woman, since having a male body contradicts that by your definition/worldview.
Regardless, you still want to be female, so why does any of that even matter? How does not transitioning solve that problem? "Oh, you want to be female and it's making you depressed? Well as it turns out you're actually not really trans; good luck with the dysphoria I guess". Actually "being trans" doesn't matter anyway (it's just a name for a set of symptoms, not a "thing" in itself); what matters is working out what you should do to make yourself happier.
59 hours later 5019652 Anonymous
>>5019541
But transitioning will ruin my social life and professional life and
Honestly it's just really scary and seems like the end of my world. I'm scared and i've been scared for a long time, and it's because it scares me to death that i dont want to do it. Jumping off a bridge scares me for a good reason, so i dont do it.
63 hours later 5020879 Anonymous
>>5018615
I'm the same way. Been wondering if it's actually dysphoria though and not just some weird lonely straight guy thing.
63 hours later 5020913 Anonymous (1412625427843.jpg 1080x1920 103kB)
I finally feel committed to transitioning. I'm just worried it's too late for me now that I'm 20.
Does anybody know how quickly I can get estrogen from an endocrinologist?
I know that I probably need a letter affirming my gender--does it have be a gender therapist who writes it or can it be a counselor?
How much will it cost with insurance?
I know that's a lot of questions, but I haven't found any clear answer elsewhere. I am so nervous that I won't pass, but I'm more scared that I'll never be truly happy if I don't do this.
64 hours later 5021010 Anon (images.jpg 259x194 13kB)
>>5020913
FAG
64 hours later 5021063 Anonymous
>>5021010
Isn't that ideal for transitioning tho? Oh wait you're just jealous. Never mind.
64 hours later 5021073 Anonymous
>>5021010
next time just don't reply to him
64 hours later 5021093 Anonymous
>>5021073
that >>5021063
wasn't me, just to be clear
68 hours later 5022007 Anonymous (JsGbnvc.jpg 500x408 221kB)
>tfw suddenly so unsure of transitioning
m-maybe I'll just be okay being a pretty dude
I'm not even sure if I could ever pass even though I think I might be able to but I'm worried I'll never look good
fuck
What do I do
If I could become curvy and get a booty and I was 100% sure about it I feel like I'd be less apprehensions but I just don't know if I'm delusional about my body's appearance or not
Especially my shoulders.I hate my shoulders.
70 hours later 5022184 Anonymous
fuck i got really drunk and finally ordered hormones. what am i going to do with myself?
70 hours later 5022190 Anonymous
I'm not going to fucking shave and tape my junk. How do I buy stuff for tucking in Sweden?
70 hours later 5022192 Anonymous
>>5022007
Depressed people don't feel depressed 100% of the time, transsexuals don't feel dysphoric 100% of the time.
You only need to be more than 50% sure that you're trans to start hormones.
70 hours later 5022197 Anonymous
>>5022190
Why not?
If you're not even willing to shave, I don't think your transition is gonna go all that well.
70 hours later 5022204 Anonymous
>>5022197
Because I don't want to accidentally slice my testicles off before the surgery. I only need to do this for a year so I'm not willing to learn a new art form that is also gross and weird.
70 hours later 5022208 Anonymous
>>5022197
What I'm trying to say is that it would be easier to order something online and not have to think about it too hard.
71 hours later 5022291 Anonymous (1435703612305.jpg 293x263 18kB)
Is 100pg/mL really okay for estradiol level?
My endo says it's good but I feel like it's not high enough. Is it? I'm pretty sure I've seen a lot of higher levels here.
72 hours later 5022337 Anonymous
>>5019652
The idea of trying (and inevitably failing) to pretend to be a man for the rest of your life is scary too. At least transitioning offers some chance of being better; doing nothing obviously isn't going to help, and from there things will just get worse on their own. Of course it's scary, but sometimes you have to do scary things.
The feelings aren't going to go away on their own. Not transitioning clearly isn't helping (nor will it), considering how you feel right now and the fact that you're here at all. Transitioning might make you feel better about yourself, and will definitely make your body more feminine.
>But transitioning will ruin my social life and professional life and
The growing depression and self-loathing will do that too. Can you imagine yourself happily going out with your friends as a man in 10 years? Can you imaging yourself being happy at all as a man in 10 years?
If you could be female right now without any consequences (as if you had always been female), would you do it? Why?
72 hours later 5022350 Anonymous
>>5022337
Not him, but I'm kind of terrified at the idea that I could grow chest hair/shoulders/baldness in 10 years because I wouldn't have felt dysphoric enough when I was still 22 at an ideal time to transition. I should get off my ass now and see a therapist, but depression and anxiety don't fucking help.
72 hours later 5022351 Anonymous
Does counselling help? Can they help me figure out if I'm trans??
Also how do you even apply to get help or counselling in the UK?
72 hours later 5022363 Anonymous (1435144025001.png 720x540 684kB)
Anyone here in Florida?
So, do I just self-med with mones until I feel like I can pass, then find a doctor willing to sign off on me getting my legal gender/name changed?
Can someone who has gone through the self-medding route walk me through what they did to complete their legal gender and name change? Even if you're not from Florida, I am curious.
72 hours later 5022372 Anonymous
>>5022351
It could help; it depends on a lot of factors. It requires a lot of thought and honesty from yourself; it's not something you just turn up to. It can't possibly make things worse, at least.
Ask your GP, or go to a private clinic.
73 hours later 5022408 Anonymous
>>5022351
>Can they help me figure out if I'm trans??
They can give you a formal diagnosis, so yes.
Transsexualism isn't a choice, it's a disorder.
73 hours later 5022430 Anonymous
>>5022363
Hey
I'm not sure how much help this can be, but I self medded for three months, got a therapist in tallahassee, had three sessions or so, then did informed consent with Dr. Rodwick in clearwater.
To get your legal gender change, you NEED a letter from a physician that prescribes you hormones. It needs to be on office letterhead, and include the following language:
1. Physician's full name;
2. Medical license or certificate number;
3. Issuing state or other jurisdiction of medical license/certificate;
4. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) registration number assigned to the physician;
5. Address and telephone number of the physician;
6. Language stating that you are the attending physician for the customer and that you have a doctor/patient relationship with me;
7. Language stating the customer is undergoing appropriate clinical treatment for gender transition to the new gender; and
8. Language stating, "I declare under penalty or perjury under the laws of the United States the forgoing is true and correct."
For the legal name change, you don't need a physician. You will need to complete the 12.982(a) Petition for Name Change form (google it) and file it with the clerk of courts. And then you will need to visit a Livescan finger printing provider and get a criminal background check. The filing fee is $400 in my county, but I was able to get it reduced because I don't have any dependents. I didn't have to go in front of a judge or anything, they just mailed me my name change documents.
73 hours later 5022451 Anonymous
>>5022351
Your GP can refer you to a therapy service. I warn you though, I've been sitting on various waiting lists for about 6 months because NHS. And I haven't even mentioned any trans-thoughts.
73 hours later 5022476 Anonymous
>>5022337
Well, i could be a handsome man... I could at least be confident in knowing to the outside world i'm doing good. Being a handsome man is better than being a freak. I could go out and just pretend its all normal with friends, which i do.
If i could? Thought about it. The answer was always yes, even when there wasnt any real dysphoria, but its not that simple
74 hours later 5022546 Anonymous
>>5022430
Do I need to see a therapist before seeing that doctor?
74 hours later 5022646 Anonymous
How much can mones change the apperence of your face? I'm mtf and my face is fucking atrocious, I can't stand to look at it. Will it get more feminine?
75 hours later 5022786 Anonymous
>>5022646
You will get more fat padding on your face (aka rounder face) plus sharp lines on your face get less noticeable.
76 hours later 5022938 Anonymous
Two questions:
One, how long after you started thinking about being transgender did it take for you to be certain (or at least certain enough to move forward with it) that you were transgender? And I mean specifically thinking "I might be trans" or "I should've been born female" or something, once you thought about it specifically, rather than just unfocused doubts.
It's been maybe two months since I posed the question "am I trans or not?" to myself in unambiguous terms, and I'm getting pretty close to going all in on telling myself I am trans, but I'm still having the 'good days' where I can convince myself that it's just depression.
Two, Is it normal for the 'bad days' to be worse the more certain you are that you're trans? I've been anxious and depressed and neurotic my whole life, but ever since I started seriously looking into trans stuff, any time my mood dropped it went further down than I can remember, and each time it's a bit worse.
I can definitely say that part of this is from the idea that if I transitioned I'm pretty certain I'd look like the worst sort of hon, since I'm over six feet tall and pretty big, but even then, the closer I get to settling on being trans the worse I feel about the future, both if I don't transition and if I do.
79 hours later 5023637 Anonymous
>>5022938
>how long it took to be certain?
Two and half years. Actually cemented my decision only after getting the time for an appointment.
>bad days
Excluding being trans i'm completely okay mentally. Still I used to get, especially in the beginning, bad mood swings. Depression cycles that took weeks or months, losing libido completely for weeks, stuff like that. Wondering about the possible results was probably a part of those swings. At some point I just stopped caring about hypothetical results and that helped quite a lot.
87 hours later 5025534 Anonymous
Can anyone give me some tips on getting a job as a newly coming out trans person?
I'm going into therapy when I get paid and I know they're going to ask me how long I've been presenting, which is only to friends.
I just move to this town, and I need a job badly. Do I misgender myself to land the job or do I get the job and explain to my new boss in hindsight?
Thanks.
89 hours later 5025872 Anonymous
>>5025534
I would present as whatever gender you look most normal as, and then worry about anything else afterwards
99 hours later 5027103 Anonymous
>>5022476
Go back to a therapist. Think and talk about things. Just don't try to deal with this by repressing it.
100 hours later 5027356 Anonymous
>>5022938
I realised it a bit over a week ago, but it was sorta like pieces of a puzzle falling together; I've thought it'd be nice to be a girl earlier in life (earliest i can remember was 7 years old), I've crossdressed in secret before (though I first thought I was just a dirty pervert) and I've never really felt like a boy, really. I've forced myself to be more masculine but not enjoyed it. After I figured it out my self-esteem has been higher than it's ever been and I feel happier the more I look into this stuff. Tomorrow I'm going to talk about this with my therapist for the first time
101 hours later 5027399 Anonymous
Did transitioning improve anyone's :
- fear of intimacy
- low self-esteem
- generalized anxiety
?
Basically the two things that are ruining my life. I don't count depression, it's the byproduct of those issues.. And I realize these things are personal and can happen for different reasons, but I want to know the perspective of other trans folk.
101 hours later 5027463 Anonymous
>>5027103
I really don't want to tell people about it
102 hours later 5027585 Anonymous
>>5027463
Why not? Getting help is worth facing your problems discussing it. What's your plan if you don't go to a therapist?
Besides, you're telling people about it here, and you've already told your previous therapist about it.
106 hours later 5029076 Anonymous
>>5027585
I know, it's just... Talking to my therapist about it made me cringe, it was nice to have someone to talk to and i looked forward to it but it didn't fix anything, and it's kinda cringey and degrading to talk to a guy who 'doesn't judge' about how you want to be a girl every single week
106 hours later 5029129 Anonymous
>>5029076
iktfb
i've never had a good experience with a therapist although there is really nothing they did wrong
106 hours later 5029158 Anonymous
>>5022938
I knew I wanted to be a girl since I was 4, and it was hitting me even harder when I was a teen, but for some reason I did not realize I was trans. I finally had the epiphany I'm trans when I was 19 about to be 20.
Feelings of dysphoria, being trans, etc, come in waves of intensity, for a while you're fine being a manly man(or a girly girl.) But it gets worse each time and, but accepting it and doing something about it took me some time. When you first decide to do something about it and progress, you'll be euphoric and happy, though except it to be one of the hardest things you'll ever go through.
Also tall girls are cute.
106 hours later 5029176 Anonymous
>>5029158
Oh and when I did realize I was trans, first things I did was research, then I ordered HRT about a week in, to trial it for 2-3 months to see if it was the right thing, and it was!
106 hours later 5029186 Anonymous
>>5029129
Oh i mean, it provided temporary relief for a while after the appointment, but then it'd be straight back soon enough to feeling bad.
Mostly I just don't want to associate myself with being trans. I don't want people to know. Online is fine because it's anonymous. Most people here want advice on how to transition, and that's not my thing. I want advice on how to get over it, or put it behind me.
I don't want to be trans. I don't want to be seen as trans. I don't want to be associated with the word.
108 hours later 5029735 Anonymous
>>5029158
Looking back, I can definitely identify things that were probably dysphoria leaking through some pretty strong repression, but I'm asking largely because I've been depressed and anxious and neurotic for as long as I can remember but only a few months ago I tohught it might be a gender thing, and ever isnce I actually consciously asked "am I trans?" instead of just aimlessly angsting about everythng and wishing to be a girl, I've been feeling shittier and shittier but I feel like I'm growing more certain that I am.
waves of intensity, for a while you're fine being a manly man(or a girly girl.) But it gets worse each time
this seems to be what's happening. It's gotten to the point where it's difficult to masturbate because I just feel so weird and kinda wrong holding my dick in my hand and I just get a wave of depression rolling over me and I can't finish. The only way I can keep going is if I just keep fapping and try to take my mind off actually fapping, sometimes.
113 hours later 5031266 Anonymous
when I take progesterone 12/28 days or whatever it is, do i not take estrogen or do i take both?
116 hours later 5032083 Anonymous (ss (2014-12-28 at 11.18.58).jpg 942x522 123kB)
I really didn't want to post this here. I can't think of anything aside from otherkin that tops it in terms of raw stupidity. But, I'm stressing, and talking about it in general helps for whatever reason, so here it goes.
For the longest time, my therapist and I believed that I was simply trans. Some of the posts I've read here helped to reinforce that, because my dysphoria seemed to be pretty in line with what other people have experienced. One of the things that was brought up a lot was the idea of dysphoria coming in waves; a person can go a period of time with milder dysphoria in between more intense bouts.
That sounded like me. Done deal, right?
Well, after a lot (and I mean a LOT) of reflection and reading and talking to my therapist again...well, I'm not sure anymore. When most people talk about dysphoria waves, there's still dysphoria. I can't say that and be honest. When dysphoria hits, it's crushing, and I can't get out of bed hardly. But in between waves, I'm 100% comfortable as a man, and actually disgusted with myself for wanting to be a woman literally the day before.
Evidently there's a phenomenon wherein someone is "bigender." After some reading, I feel like it's really fitting, to be honest. I hate it, because it sounds to me like some bullshit identity with nothing factual backing it.
Ugh. I don't even know what I'm trying to say anymore. Am I alone here? Should I fuck off and start a tumblr now, or am I still welcome here?
>tl;dr bigender fml
116 hours later 5032095 Anonymous
>>5032083
I dunno, but I think bigender sounds retarded.
Probably either like a transvestite, or trans with like enough repressing ability that you can somehow get completely fine.
Or maybe you're just BPD, and what you feel when you feel "dysphoria" is related to BPD stuff.
117 hours later 5032134 Anonymous (8063152301_5c1653f2f8.jpg 500x333 186kB)
>>5032083
When the ego is subsumed, when the soul is decoupled, gender seems as much a costume as the flesh. And the shaman wears them, no different than fur and linen.
117 hours later 5032143 Anonymous
>>5029186
>I want advice on how to get over it, or put it behind me.
You won't get over it unless you transition, I mean there's a reason transition is considered the best treatment for dysphoria. But you don't have to wear your transgenderism like a tumblrina and somehow be "proud" of being born with a fucked up brain.
I feel exactly the same as you.
117 hours later 5032156 Anonymous
>>5032095
Is false dysphoria a manifestation of BPD? Legitimate question, I have no fucking clue.
I don't know. This shit kills me to think about.
I also feel it's worth noting that I tried self medicating a few years ago. Things were great for the first three or four months, but at some point I found myself completely put off by what I was doing and abruptly stopped. Less than a week later, I was kicking myself in the face for quitting. After that, it got worse. Now, like I said, I find myself being a-okay with this whole man thing one day, and suicidally depressed the next. Hell, sometimes it can happen multiple times in a day.
>>5032134
wat
117 hours later 5032173 Anonymous
>>5032156
What I've heard is that BPD can mimick GD.
119 hours later 5032378 Anonymous
>>5032143
But i don't want to...
I mean I'd like to, but it's not WORTH risking the awkwardness, embarrassment, blah blah blah.
Nobody would stop me, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't judge, and that doesn't mean I wouldn't judge myself.
121 hours later 5032558 Anonymous
>>5032378
Is not doing anything worth waking up in 10, 20 years and realizing you'll never see who you want to see in the mirror as your chances of successfuly transitioning slowly fade away? At the end of the day, you should live for yourself, not for others.
>and that doesn't mean I wouldn't judge myself.
I have terrible self-esteem too, my only hope to enjoy life is that transitioning will fix that. I just need to work up the courage to talk about it.
122 hours later 5032753 Anonymous
>>5032558
I really cant do it. Thanks anyway but I can't, i'm not confident enough for that shit
126 hours later 5033611 Anonymous (1111o.jpg 517x603 26kB)
What's the best way to deal with it?
128 hours later 5034214 Anonymous
>>5032753
>it's kinda cringey and degrading to talk to a guy who 'doesn't judge' about how you want to be a girl every single week
Most therapists really don't judge you; if they couldn't stand being around people with problems then they wouldn't make it their job.
>it provided temporary relief for a while after the appointment, but then it'd be straight back soon enough to feeling bad.
Of course you're going to keep feeling bad; therapy doesn't cure you of being trans, and that's the root cause of why you're feeling bad.
You use it to explore things (help to think about them in-depth and ask the right questions, in a way that allows to to work out how you can and should deal with them), such as the way that you're ashamed of suffering from a medical condition entirely beyond your control. That's the kind of thing it can help with, when you be honest and open about it (both in thinking about for yourself and in talking about it with someone).
>I mean I'd like to, but it's not WORTH risking the awkwardness, embarrassment, blah blah blah
Awkwardness and embarrassment sound like awful reasons not to take the only treatment that works. You clearly know that you're trans. You don't want to be, but no-one does (it's really bad; a large proportion of the people on this board, including me, could tell you that from personal experience); it's all the more reason to take the treatment rather than just wallow in self-loathing.
>I really cant do it
I'm going to say this every post: transitioning is still your best option, because even if it can't fix everything it can help, and the alternative is to literally just do nothing and hope your problems go away on their own (protip: they don't). Try very hard to make yourself do it, and if you find that you can't, then take a smaller step and go to a therapist, and work from there until you can do it. You've been to a therapist before, so you know you're capable of doing that.
129 hours later 5034269 Anonymous
>>5034214
But everyone says it won't go away but how do they know
Most of this board is early 30s at absolute most, and i mean... i don't feel like this is how i want my life to happen.
You say it won't go away but maybe it will, and then i would've wasted the best years of my life looking and feeling like a freak
129 hours later 5034296 Anonymous
>>5034269
You will spend the best years of your life establishing yourself as the person you most likely are. Or you can repress, miss your 20s and 30s, and wake up at 40 realizing you wasted the best years of your life for a sham.
I've been out for years, I have seen easily tens to hundreds of people come and go, trying to repress shit and live a "normal" life as their assigned gender. It never, ever lasts.
129 hours later 5034304 Anonymous
Is Bowers really the only surgeon US insurances will cover up front?
129 hours later 5034306 Anonymous
>>5034296
I know I'm probably dumb but I can't.
I seriously can't do it and i don't think I will ever be able to do it. I just want to make it as non-insane as possible despite that.
129 hours later 5034335 Anonymous
>>5031266
You may not take as much estrogen as you usually do because progesterone and estrogen are antagonizing each other which means taking more estrogen than necessary will be wasting it.
129 hours later 5034427 Anonymous
>>5034269
>But everyone says it won't go away but how do they know
Because there's not even nearly sufficient evidence of it being able to go away.
If a treatment other than transitioning worked, then you'd already know about it (or if not then you'd be able to find out about it quickly/easily), the "T" in "LGBT" wouldn't exist because all the transsexuals would be cured, and no reputable doctor would ever recommend transition. Nothing else works.
It's the same principle as trying to repress or "cure" homosexuality, in that despite people's shame and desperation to make it go away (and people claiming they can help others do so or have done so themselves), it just doesn't.
>i would've wasted the best years of my life looking and feeling like a freak
You don't seem to be feeling particularly comfortable right now. That will get worse.
>I seriously can't do it and i don't think I will ever be able to do it. I just want to make it as non-insane as possible despite that.
If you don't think you can do it then get help. Go to a therapist. What do you have to lose? At worst, it'll cost money, and you have to face your issues with being ashamed (which the therapist can help with, and should, since that's clearly important here). Again: the alternative solution is to do nothing and hope everything somehow works out, which is no solution at all.
Are you going to bet on the chance that you'll magically get better, without trying hard enough for a better solution? You don't think you're not trans; you're scared of dealing with it. Being scared can be overcome, and regardless it doesn't change that transitioning is the only actual treatment.
People don't repress because it cures them; they repress because they're scared or ashamed or confused, and because it can help temporarily to an extent; and therefore they can pretend that it will continue to help rather than collapsing.
129 hours later 5034432 Anonymous
>>5034427
But I don't want to not be scared and ashamed, because it's the only thing keeping me from doing something stupid.
And I mean it's possible i'm not really trans and this is just a really weird mental thing where i'm trying to fool myself and it'll pass with time.
130 hours later 5034518 Anonymous
>>5034432
>And I mean it's possible i'm not really trans and this is just a really weird mental thing where i'm trying to fool myself and it'll pass with time.
yeah.
this is hard especially when you don't really know or have other possible comorbidities
130 hours later 5034534 Anonymous
>>5034432
>But I don't want to not be scared and ashamed, because it's the only thing keeping me from doing something stupid.
So you're planning to spend the rest of your life scared and ashamed, deliberately? That seems like the kind of thing that'll ruin your life. That doesn't solve your problem at all.
>And I mean it's possible i'm not really trans and this is just a really weird mental thing where i'm trying to fool myself and it'll pass with time.
This is the kind of thing that therapists will help you with. It's been going on since you were a child, and it's still going on now with no signs of stopping, so I think your chances of it stopping in the future are pretty low. Do you think that's at least a reasonable enough conclusion to explore further?
Go to a therapist. Do something. Please.
130 hours later 5034539 Anonymous
>>5034518
No other conditions, mentally. I was always a little anxious but anxiety and depression only became an issue when the gender stuff did. Be that occasional outbursts from talking about it online and getting upset throughout puberty, or be that when i started therapy and took it too seriously and became suicidal.
The thing is I think part of me was just anxious and depressed because maybe this isnt how i want to live my life and i dont want to transition but for some reason i felt like i had to, and it's these two sides that i can't settle.
It really really sucks
130 hours later 5034552 Anonymous
>>5034534
I'll think about it...
It's not a huge issue because i'm kind of feminine looking right now, and I don't get crazy upset like I did before... It's just not necessary or important enough. On a bad day I'll hate a few masculine features, avoid seeing myself and move on/forget about it.
131 hours later 5034702 Anonymous
>>5034552
>i'm kind of feminine looking right now
Dude.
I'm over six feet tall, I've got the shoulders of a linebacker, and my face already looksl ike a 30y.o. guy.
And I'm still moving forward because I fucking know that 'maybe I can be happy as a guy and this is all a silly bit of pretend' is fucking bullshit.
Bringing it up to my therapist was fucking terrifying, but I still told him because fuck him I'm paying him to help me.
Your options right now are to actually say to someone who can help you that you're probably trans, suicide, or resigning yourself to a life of self-delusion and misery.
You've got a better shot at transitioning well than I do, so don't fucking waste it because you're worried you'll get funny looks and hurtful comments.
131 hours later 5034873 Anonymous
>>5034702
Having a really bad day, i'm sorry.
It's not going to be easy for me, but i feel for you if what you say is true. Good luck.
138 hours later 5036775 Anonymous
bump
139 hours later 5036966 Anonymous
Hello all,
I just wanted to ask if anyone has been in my position, and this seems like the right place. I've had thoughts about transitioning from a young age but suppressed them pretty hard due to growing up with a narrow-minded family and community. The problem is that I feel like I'm second-guessing myself now that I have moved out of home and have the freedom to transition or at least entertain more experimental behaviours. The root of my confusion seems to be that I think I'm projecting my sexual desire for the opposite sex onto my personal inadequacies and need to be desirable. I was never able to suppress the constant dysphoria, just bury and ignore it, which is the one thing keeping me thinking that I may not be tricking myself. It's back in force now that I have allowed myself to question my gender identity. My brain is doing backflips. Anyone have a similar experience? Am I even making sense?
140 hours later 5037015 Anonymous
Just casually crossdressed for the first time in a looong while and I saw myself as a girl in the mirror, it felt like I was seeing a long forgotten friend. I'm scared though because it's confirming my suspicions and feeling very real at this point.
140 hours later 5037076 Anonymous
I thought I outgrew my dysphoria until I started looking at trans timelines then it came back. Then I jacked off and the dysphoria went away for a bit. I think it's why I jack off so much. Repression is a pain.
142 hours later 5037352 Anonymous
Please, lend me a hand if you can.
I've being in Anti-androgens(Decapeptyl) for around 18 months.How damaging would be if I stop for 3 months?
Yes, I'm also taking estrogen and yes, I'll continue the treatment after those 3 months.
142 hours later 5037385 Anonymous (blood_tooths_by_deadmoochie-d8exnrd.jpg 1024x779 112kB)
ok so im mtf 24 and don't have insurance i live in Chesapeake Virginia ...so how much work am i going to have to go though to transition or are there trans laws and stuff lax here
143 hours later 5037429 Anonymous
>>5008019
So I am on Hrt and my nipples have started feeling warm and slightly uncomfortable to touch. is this the beginning of the legendary nipple soreness everyone talks about or is this something else?
143 hours later 5037476 Anonymous
>>5037429
don't know, but how long have you been on? curious
143 hours later 5037493 Anonymous
>>5037476
Only about a week or 2
144 hours later 5037536 Anonymous
>>5037352
estrogen without AA's will do very little. Your body will start testosterone production again so some changes will probably revert.
144 hours later 5037562 Anonymous
>>5037536
Yeah, fuck.
I'm scared cause I think they fucked it up when they injected me the AA 2 months ago.
I'm having mood swings, body hair is growing faster, I woke up with a morning wood today and I cum when masturbate, things that haven't happen in like a year.
Next shot is in one month.
Fuck my life...
146 hours later 5037781 Anonymous
>>5037562
...do AAs prevent you from getting aroused or orgasm instead of just having erections?
149 hours later 5038265 Anonymous
So I've recently come out as genderfluid (biologically male). I don't want to take hormones, as I still like sometimes being a boy. Can I get away with passing with just makeup and body shaping clothes?
149 hours later 5038401 Anonymous
What can I do in the UK to get help with mental issues?
I have never told anyone my problems and don't know where to start.
But it's reached the point where I've started self-harming and thinking of suicide. I can't help but think that death would be preferable to coming out, spending months on a waiting list just to become some hon freak.
150 hours later 5038437 Anonymous
>>5038265
depends 100% on your appearance. theoretically, yes
151 hours later 5038638 Marble (rood.png 240x234 113kB)
Does anyone else find that people at work (if there ever is a task such as this), always seem to assign you with the manual labor-type things? I work a college receptionist with 2 other people at the desk, and whenever something is to be carried it's usually delegated to me if it's between me and another cis female coworker. I will add that I'm not strong in the slightest, and have even tried hinting at that when people ask me to do these tasks. I don't want a free pass to be lazy or whatever, but it all goes into my anxieties about how my gender is perceived by my bosses, who have a history of having no idea how to go about talking to me, and don't have enough patience to consider it a conversation worth having.
151 hours later 5038666 jade
>>5038638
happened to me plenty of times, but thats because I'm not presenting in public
161 hours later 5040963 Anonymous
>>5038638
they don't see you as a woman, and men are assigned extra physical duties 99% of the time. nobody will acknowledge this though, so it will be difficult for you to bring it up
162 hours later 5041204 Anonymous
>>5037781
erections
167 hours later 5041821 Anonymous
Should I start HRT as soon as possible, or wait until I have enough money saved up so I can get surgery 12 months afterwards? I'm 23 so I've already passed the puberty train.
171 hours later 5042260 Anonymous
>>5041821
start hrt
looking like a human sooner is better than changing one body part that only matters to yourself
171 hours later 5042327 Anonymous
>>5038401
I was the same way last year and figured I may as well try to transition before attempting suicide again. The gics aren't as nightmarish as they're made out to be, if you go to your gp and explain your situation they're usually really understanding and may offer you some free therapy. In the meantime you can get yourself sorted out, lose weight if you need to and self med if you can. How old are you anon?
172 hours later 5042429 Anonymous
I feel really embarrassed asking this, but I'm a trans girl and I want to buy some slightly more sexy undies to complement my current functional and slightly bland wardrobe. I'd really like to get a couple of thongs but in my experience only shorts-type undies are any good at stopping my balls from swinging about like a newton's cradle. Is there such a thing as knickers with a short-style front with more ball coverage but a thong-style back, or am I doomed to stay frumpy forever? Also if it helps with recommending particular brands/sites, I'm UK-based.
172 hours later 5042438 Anonymous
I'm on 8 mg estrofem a day, which is the hydrate. New doc gave a prescription for the valerate.
Should i up my dose or are the pure estradiol-shares the same?
I think estrofem is the hemihydarte and the valerate ester seems to have a similar ratio
183 hours later 5044629 Anonymous
Do you guys know of any American based medical loan or ways to get assistance with trans surgery.
I'm FTM but I'm sure a MTF has probably asked this before. What is the best way to pay for surgery and the drugs if you're independent, have no dependents and make under ~20k a year.
183 hours later 5044643 Anonymous
>>5038638
>>5038666
Do you have any experiences on getting hired while trans or do just just stay closeted until you pass, quit-- or just have an awkward convo with boss at some point?
>>5025872
Thank you.
183 hours later 5044769 Anonymous
Friends posting about being on T and I want to be happy for them but all these posts do is make me more aware of this dysphoria and I can only feel anger that I still cannot be out or get hormone therapy or surgery. Ugh. Just.. ugh.
195 hours later 5046562 Anonymous
bump
195 hours later 5046637 Anonymous
>>5044629
Obamacare
196 hours later 5046783 Anonymous
>just finished two years of therapy
>finally come to terms with that depression and anxiety issues are caused by gender
>trying to get referred to a gender clinic
>gender clinics don't accept anybody over 18
>my only other option is to wait until i next get suicidal tendencies and go to my doctor so I can be referred to adult therapy (not necessarily a gender clinic)
>unable to receive hormone therapy
>scared shitless about coming out to my parents
>recently developed a drinking problem to cope with dysphoria
>only options available to me are suicide or living with dysphoria
i don't know what to do anymore
197 hours later 5046931 Anonymous
>>5046783
if you're over 18 you don't need your parents validation for the choices you make, surely they would understand if you have had to have therapy because of it?
197 hours later 5046960 Anonymous
>>5046931
Well, not really. I still live with my parents and will struggle to live with them after telling them, I've caused them a lot of trouble and I don't want to pile anything else onto them.
You've got to be literally on the verge of suicide before the NHS (UK) offers any help, which isn't really that good for me
197 hours later 5046964 Anonymous
How much face masculinization happens from 17-20?
199 hours later 5047184 Anonymous
Question about QHI...
I ordered a load of hormones from them a few months back, don't think they gave me an account number.
Put in another order earlier today, is it gonna take weeks of processing again? I've run out of AAs and my skin is going to shit and i swear my facial hair is growing in thicker and faster again.
200 hours later 5047434 Anonymous
So I brought it up to my therapist that I thought I might be trans a month ago or so, but I've been in the midst of a huge bout of depression and my therapist is pushing to get me on antidepressants, to see if it's depression and internalized shit that's causing my dysphoria and all that or vice versa.
I do think antidepressants are a good idea if only to help me hang on until I can get some real help with being trans, but I think his plan is kind of bullshit. I suppose I can't blame him too much because I seemed really confused about it and kinda brought it up out of the blue, but now that I've had time to actually think things through I'm pretty much convinced I am trans or at least that I need to seek help and really look at it to determine conclusively.
I jsut feel like I'm running out of time (for what I'm not entirely sure), and the idea of waiting a few months to see if my gender issues get better (which I'm sure they won't) feels like fucking torture.
Should I just start trying to find another therapist who specialized in gender stuff?
Should I try to see them in addition to a 'general purpose' therapist?
Should I tell my current therapist, or maybe try to get his help finding someone?
Part of me is paranoid he isn't taking me seriously and is being overly cautious, and part of me thinks it's my fault because I can never tell him all the things i want to say - I just want to be able to tell someone who can change things about all the thoughts and memories and shit that led up to now, but he seems fixated on other issues in my life (again, because I kinda brought the trans thing up out of the blue).
What the fuck do I do?
200 hours later 5047446 Anonymous
>>5046964
Quite a bit. It kind of shocked me how young 18 year olds look to me now that I'm over 20.
200 hours later 5047509 Anonymous
>>5047184
depends on where you live. the first order you make with them takes longer because of the whole signing documents ordeal
200 hours later 5047511 Anonymous
>>5047509
Yeah. I live in the UK but it only took 1 day after dispatch to arrive.
Is the processing period still long?
200 hours later 5047537 Anonymous (image.jpg 2439x1408 645kB)
i just recently "discovered" i am gay and since i am more sub and i already have smooth and white skin and no muscles (not doing sport and not in sun all day), i wanted to ask how to get a nice fem body? i googled it but it was like a fucking novel pic is me
201 hours later 5047587 Anonymous
>>5047537
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201 hours later 5047607 Anonymous
>>5047587
ikea?
201 hours later 5047627 Anonymous
>>5047537
lgbt board faster than sanic
201 hours later 5047735 Anonymous
>>5018615
sounds like youre extremely jelous of lesbians
202 hours later 5047850 Anonymous
heyo any ftms on here who have had/ have photos of facial masculinization surgery? i'm considering it but can only find photos of ffs (inb4 go on t, that's not in my game plan)
207 hours later 5049581 Anonymous
>>5047735
Not that anon, but what would cause them to be jealous of lesbians? It sounds like it's more than a sexual thing to me.
218 hours later 5051385 Lalalily
>>5031266
take both
but from my experience cycling P doesn't do much unless destabilizing your mood
(been on 100mg P daily for almost a year now)
>>5033611
hrt
some use finesterine or w/e it's called, supposedly helps, never used it myself tho
>>5034304
depends on the insurance, some cover one or two more iirc
>>5037352
in general being off AAs will lead to T going up again, unless you had orchi or srs
E won't do much without AAs since T is more potent that E
>>5037429
soreness
>>5038265
>Can I get away with passing with just makeup and body shaping clothes?
for a while yes
but as you age it will get harder and harder
>>5042438
ask your doc
it depends entirely on your body and how it reacts to different types of E
>>5046964
depends on your genetic
but it's always visible, to what extend (just a bit more andro or fullblown adonis) comes down to your genetics
218 hours later 5051408 Lalalily (12415123.jpg 3840x3760 1883kB)
>>5027399
>Did transitioning improve anyone's :
>- fear of intimacy
yes but since i had a lot of genital dysphoria only after srs
>- low self-esteem
yes as a result of not feeling like shit about my gender anymore
>- generalized anxiety
never had that
>>5022938
>One, how long after you started thinking about being transgender did it take for you to be certain (or at least certain enough to move forward with it) that you were transgender?
around 9 years
> Is it normal for the 'bad days' to be worse the more certain you are that you're trans?
for me yes simply because I knew how to fix it yet couldn't do anything about it cause I was in the closet
>>5022646
quite a lot
pic related, while not that impressive in general look at the change of my cheeks and chin for example
>>5022351
can only answer the first 2 questions cause non-britbongian
1)
yes
2)
mhm, mine pretty much tackled everything I said and constantly asked me stuff like "what if you turn out unpassing" to make me think about every little thing I was feeling regarding transitioning
224 hours later 5052688 Anonymous
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225 hours later 5052769 Anonymous
>showers always makes me sad
>be sick
>dont take shower for 3 days
>im feeling a lot better, barely think of suicide
>i feel so good i will take a shower and go for a walk
>undress
>look in the mirror
>omg what a fucking gross body
>hairy
>man face
>beard
>skinny fat belly
>take shower crying the whole time
>gonna dress
>all male clothes
<I guess its male clothes once again XD
>doubt if i want to go for a walk
should i just go for a walk and kill myself in the road ? jump into a car ? jump into the subway ? i wish killing self was easier
Or should I just stop taking showers and looking myself on mirror and stop even looking at myself at all ?
225 hours later 5052834 Anonymous
Is progesterone necessary for mtf's? What effects does it have?
226 hours later 5053048 Anonymous
Where do I look for informed consent clinics? The endo I went to requires a letter from therapist and the fucking therapist wont even pick up the damn phone.
226 hours later 5053085 Anonymous
>>5047511
A few days shorter for me.
227 hours later 5053187 Anonymous
Went to my first psychologist visit yesterday, we talked a while about how I felt, but I completely forgot to speak about how grossed out I am by my body.
So far her opinion seems to be "You don't really need to transition just because you like cute things and hobbies that are not masculine" but I completely forgot to tell her I can't bear looking at myself naked.
Or clothed.
Speaking of which, how is 36 for a chest measurement? Looking at myself I feel like I'm massively thick, and I'm already at like 0% bodyfat (Not litterally, just meaning that the chest measurement is taken skin to bones) so it's not like I can diet to reduce it.
232 hours later 5054462 Alex (14188965612[1].png 1069x650 1112kB)
Hey there I'm new here. 29, Thinking about transitioning.
I'm having some issues figuring some stuff out, For the longest time I've been Hiding this side of me and recently I saw this picture of a trans timeline that got me thinking. from what i've learned this person was my age when she decided to go to from G.I.Joe to the beautiful woman she is now. not a fake it actually checked out.
So I saw this and got thinking, I look alot like the man she was, could I do this. So this has not left my mind for 3 weeks and I keep thinkng about it and whether or not this is who I am and should I take the plunge.
I still dont know what to do.
I do think I identify as a woman, but I've spent so long supressing it that I'm not sure what I am, and it hasnt made my life any better.
All through my life I've secretly done things that are feminine, alway in private and always when i'm alone. put on make-up, dress-up, slept in panties because I love the feel, I even shaved my whole body once (I hate my body hair would shave my legs everyday if i didnt feel i had to hide it.) this has gone on on/off for many years,
One of the reasons I rejected this side to me for this long and supressed it, and never transitioned. Is because I have always been attracted to women. I know now that I may be trans, so I guess I'd be a trans lesbian.
I'm nervous to transition because I've spent so much of my life hiding that people actually think I'm a man, even thought thats not how I have felt.
I'm nervous to start HRT because while I want to look and feel feminine, I dont want to lose the function of my penis or become sterile. I like sex with woman and oddly enough want to have kids someday (those poor kids) so i'd still like the abilitly to get a girl pregnant.
I'm nervous how i will tell people, my family my friends.
I'm nervous about changing my identity, My ID, passport, bank accounts, going back to school, getting a job,
I dont know what to do here, I think i want to do this.
233 hours later 5054724 Anonymous
>>5054462
Okay, long post so long reply, but here goes.
First off, about not being sure what you identify as: keep in mind cis people don't go around doubting their gender identity. That said, a therapist who's knowledgeable on trans issues and follows the WPATH standards of care would be able to help you a lot more in determining the answer to that question than the anyone on the Internet. If you live in Canada or the US, you can look here and filter for trans issues: https://therapists.psychologytoday. com/rms/
>I'm nervous to start HRT [...]
Chances are you won't lose function. Keeping sterile is out of the question if you decide to go for it though. If you think you might want biological children, you can get sperm frozen for later use.
>I'm nervous to transition [...]
>I'm nervous how i will tell people [...]
It's always hard to tell people and sometimes harder to get them to accept it. If you can get the support of friends or just one family member to help you tell others, it might help. I had to put myself in a situation in which I was forced to explain because I kept pussying out.
>I'm nervous about changing my identity [...]
Depending on where you live, those things could be incredibly easy or incredibly hard. As for school/work, I know not everyone can afford to but I took a sabbatical year to just focus on getting transition out of the way.
233 hours later 5054733 Anonymous
>>5054724
Wow, I am tired.
>Keeping sterile
Keeping from going sterile*
234 hours later 5054894 Anonymous
how long after starting spiro can I stop taking finasteride?
237 hours later 5055192 Anonymous
>>5052769
Perhaps you should do something about it instead of whining. Hair and fat are things you can change.
>>5052834
supposedly it's good for shaping the breasts, but there aren't really studies on it. anyone on it will give you anecdotal advice.
>>5053187
I had 33.5 for chest when i started, so 36 is still okay i think.
239 hours later 5055413 Lalalily
>>5052834
one study showed that it reduces breast cancer risk by slowing down cell division but improving new cells
personally it just stabilized my mood quite a bit
239 hours later 5055423 Anonymous
I not sure if I'm trans, the idea of becoming a girl doesn't comfort me, but brings me sexual pleasure. It started a few months ago when trap threads started popping up on /r9k/ more often. One thing led to another and now I enjoy looking at TG transformation pictures and captions and have begun dressing up as a girl and reenacting different scenarios in those pictures when I'm alone, eventually leading to an orgasm in a glove wrapped around my penis, so I dont leave any mess.
I'm now conflicted on whether I should stop, or keep feeding the desire and making my " transformations" feel more realistic ( I had like breast forms and a gaff, but I lost the forms). I was going to ask about making "transformations" more realistic, but I decided to be proactive.
239 hours later 5055436 Anonymous
>>5055413
Still toying with the idea of a small dose of p to recover the few amount of breast I had before the switch from cypro to spiro.
I'll take any opinions. It's not as if french endos were any competent when it comes to mtf transition.
>>5055423
You're not trans. Don't have to stop you from transitioning. It may even be less painfull than it is for actual trans persons.
You'll not give a shit when everybody will think you're just a perv, as you are just a perv.
239 hours later 5055454 Anonymous
>>5055436
why did you switch from cypro to spiro? isn't cypro more potent as an AA?
240 hours later 5055480 Anonymous
>>5055454
>why did you switch from cypro to spiro?
A terf disguised as an endo made me od'd on cypro.
Apart from the fact that it broke me and I'm now forever hon, I just can't stand it anymore.
>isn't cypro more potent as an AA?
Yes. However don't try it if you're depressive or suffer from any mental disorder.
242 hours later 5055829 Anonymous
Is it normal to go though a early midlife crisis when transitioning? I started singing to help with my voice, then picked up violin, now firespining...
243 hours later 5056010 Anonymous
>>5047434
Therapists are a bit weird in that they always have their own agenda. I had a therapist for a while who knew that my issue was rooted in my gender, but didn't tell me and let me work it out for myself. I spoke about all sorts of things, like suffering from psychosis and massive panic attacks (which were all just claims to get a Xanax prescription) that she totally ignored since it didn't fit her predetermined diagnosis. I think you should tell your therapist exactly what you've written here (as hard as that may be) and see if you can get anything out of him, since he's your only real chance to get help.
If possible, attend a gender clinic but I've heard they're very very difficult to get in to.
244 hours later 5056080 Anonymous
I'm thinking of self medicating. How do I join the illegal estrogen trade?
244 hours later 5056088 Anonymous
>>5056080
depends on what country you live in
246 hours later 5056526 Anonymous
Are there any trans friendly endocrinologists in Syracuse, NY?
246 hours later 5056645 Anonymous (trans-healthcare-thumbnail1.png 560x292 61kB)
what do you do when things start to get a tiny bit slightly better and then you're suddenly suicidal for no real reason?
i think i might become a statistic probably.
248 hours later 5056999 Trans-goodposter
Can I claim alimony from the child me and my husband adopted? I am technically the girl.
Please give law tips and loopholes.
248 hours later 5057009 Trans-goodposter
>>5056645
The statistic lies, sorry to say.
252 hours later 5057874 Alex
>>5054724
Thanks, I've been looking into finding a therapist for that same reason, I'm posting here to see what advice I can get from people who have been through this already.
I agree, People who question their gender identity are pretty likely to be trans, and that makes me think it even more.
I've also been looking into spermbanks too. The fact that I'm planning things like this just tell me that at least subconciously if not conciously am plannign to tranisition.
I am not expecting my family to be supportive, though they are likely to. my younger brother came out as gay to my parents and other brother several years ago and that went better than expected. this is diferent, i dont know that they will understand. I almost feel like running away to transition and start over, my biggest thing is my age, I feel I should have gone through this and figured it out when I was younger,
I'm about to go on a personal vacation for 2 weeks away from work family home to hopefully clear my head and fingure some stuff out. then when i get back I plan to start seeing a therapist about this.
253 hours later 5058100 Anonymous
Does MtF HRT make it easier to gain weight? I'm very skinny. The sticky mentions only redistribution of fat, so I assume it doesn't?
254 hours later 5058527 Anonymous
I used to come here a lot and then I told my partner I'd been having these thoughts and they freaked out, so I put a lot of effort into convincing them and myself that it's not true and that I'm definitely not trans and I stopped doing things that encouraged the feeling (practicing voice, wearing feminine clothes, shaving, coming here) But now we're separated, so there's no strong reason for me to continue to suppress anything, but the feelings haven't come back. Not properly. I still think about it as a concept fairly regularly, but I don't really feel compelled by it anymore. And I'm disappointed by that. I want the feelings to come back. Even though I was scared and knew that it would be extremely difficult being trans, I still want to be a woman. But it doesn't feel how it used to feel.
It would be so easy now to just go along with this and forget about it and live as a man. But then also I'm worried that it's not gone, and that when I was actively trying to deny it and make it go away I just pushed it down a bit too deep.
Anyway, I'd appreciate any insight from people who were/are in similar situations. And I think I'll start hanging out here again and see how things go. Pretty fucked up situation.
254 hours later 5058534 Anonymous
>>5058527
fucking do whatever you want to
how is this complicated in the slightest
254 hours later 5058590 Anonymous
27 here. Too late for hormones to work their magic?
Also, my ass is too big and I can't shave properly, nair burns my asshole and wax just glues my asscheeks together. How terrible would be to use duct tape to remove my ass hair?
255 hours later 5058720 Anonymous
>>5058100
Eating more food makes it easier to gain weight.
255 hours later 5058821 Alex
>>5058590
Your younger than me, and im in the same boat. i've seen it work for some people. it makes me hopeful.
wouldnt you want a big ass?
as for your body hair, lazer might be agood idea, dont use chemicals like nair, or waxing, it'll jsut make it worse and come in thicker. it would be ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE to use duct tape, it would hurt like hell and not as effective as waxing.
I've had some electrolysis done on areas of my face mainly eyebrows because the were out of control, Hurts but its perminant after several sessions, worth the time and money but wouldnt recomend for larg areas, they literally go hair by hair
256 hours later 5058914 Anonymous
>>5057874
>this is diferent, i dont know that they will understand.
Be ready to educate them. Show them the facts about transition. If need be get the right info from the therapist you'll be seeing.
256 hours later 5058952 Anonymous
What do you imagine would happen to someone who took the opposite sex hormones that didn't have dysphoria? Or isn't sure they have dysphoria?
256 hours later 5058956 Anonymous
>>5058952
they would start looking like the opposite sex and then develop dysphoria
256 hours later 5058994 Anonymous
>>5058590
>27 here. Too late for hormones to work their magic?
I've seen it work with later transitioners. The longer you wait, the worse the results will be. If you're sure you're trans, you should probably go for it. Weigh pros and cons with a therapist.
258 hours later 5059239 Anonymous
What is the best place to order shit from in America? Without presicription?
I'm wondering, because I'm on a fucklong waitlist for just getting the FIRST appointment for Informed Consent. Too many fucking hipsters in this fucking city pushing me back to March, and that just seems like way too fucking far away.
Or is it normal for shit to be 6 months off?
258 hours later 5059254 Anonymous
>>5059239
Inhousepharmacy.vu has been pretty reliable for me, I'd try there. I've heard some nice things about alldaychemist too
259 hours later 5059294 Anonymous
>>5059239
i just did alldaychemist. they're in transit now and didn't ask for prescription.
well, I didn't get them yet...but I have a tracking number
260 hours later 5059731 Anonymous
Do I have to go to an endocrinologist to get testosterone, or can I get the script and bloodwork done by my general practitioner?
I was on T in college, via an endo, but life happened and I have no health insurance and a shitty job. So I don't think I can afford T if I have to find a specialist. (The health insurance marketplace is not an option until January.)
261 hours later 5059815 Anonymous
>>5059731
a general practicioner will probably not give you T. So yeah go to an endo.
265 hours later 5060290 Anonymous (bubbles.jpg 500x500 89kB)
I need some help on a pretty snap decision. I'm a closeted FTM and my mother is fairly transphobic and thinks I'm some sort of butch lesbian right now and hates it, my one last feminine aspect I retain is having long hair but I really want to cut it, naturally. Should I just fucking do it?
I still live with her but I have other places to go and I'm too big for her to hit me or anything, should I just do it? Yes/no?
266 hours later 5060326 Anonymous (just do it.png 1920x1078 657kB)
>>5060290
266 hours later 5060367 Anonymous
>>5060290
You're mentally ill. Get help for your condition. Voting for Bernie Sanders (or Hillary) won't help.
266 hours later 5060369 Anonymous
>>5060290
Yes!!
266 hours later 5060391 Anonymous
Whoever from NZ here?
266 hours later 5060393 Anonymous
>>5060290
>I have no reason not to do the thing, should I do the thing?
Of course you should.
270 hours later 5061022 Anonymous (432432525.jpg 200x200 12kB)
So uhm, I've been on hrt for close to 3 years now and am full-time, but I never told my dad about it; he lives pretty far so mostly he'd just call every once in a while. The problem is that he wants me to go over to his house for christmas this year but I can't tell him I'm going to go spend time with my boyfriend's family, he obviously doesn't even know about him. I told him I'd call him in the afternoon today about it but I have no idea on how to come out over the phone, what could I do to maybe soften the blow?
272 hours later 5061286 Anonymous
how 2 stop wishing I was girl
272 hours later 5061352 Anonymous
>>5061022
Nothing. Just tell him. He will take it how he takes it and what you say exactly matters little.
272 hours later 5061369 Anonymous
>>5061022
However you decide to go about , do let us know how it turned out. Not telling someone for 3 years and on top of that having a boyfriend may be a pretty huge shock to him.
273 hours later 5061406 Anonymous
>>5058100
yes, you will gain weight the same rate as cis women do which is faster than men
273 hours later 5061413 Anonymous
>>5060290
Do it, I was in almost the same exact position and just cut it a month ago. She complained, but mostly that I "looked like a boy" which of course is great and after a while there wasn't much else she could say.
273 hours later 5061465 Anonymous
>>5061286
become girl
273 hours later 5061534 Anonymous
>>5061369
Well he did kind of stop talking with my sister for 3 months because she got a tattoo.
274 hours later 5061827 Anonymous
I feel trapped. I wanna come out and transition but everytime I wanna tell someone I get panic attacks. I know the only one stopping myself from transitioning is me and I hate myself for not transitioning sooner when I know I could have. Everyday is hell and it makes me feel like happiness doesn't exist at all.
274 hours later 5061833 Anonymous
I want to be female for unknown reasons but haven't really felt to be in a wrong body in puberty and I'm not disgusted by my body or genitals. Are these good signs I'm not trans?
275 hours later 5061929 Anonymous
i've always wanted to be girl,
but on the other hand, i don't. My family wil be like "wtf"
how did any of you remove this doubt
275 hours later 5061937 Anonymous
>>5061833
>>5061929 (me)
also feeling the same as this guy
275 hours later 5061949 Anonymous
>>5061929
Family is important and they'll probably think it's weird but you have to ask yourself if they really love you if they won't even let you be who you want to be.
>>5061937
It's probably best to talk with a specialized therapist about that and do some soul searching.
282 hours later 5063954 Anonymous
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295 hours later 5065773 Anonymous (453978530.gif 500x272 511kB)
>>5061022
>>5061369
Oh no. I did not realize sunday was apparently "coming-out day." I had told him I would call him then but bitched out and now I see that it's a big trending thing on facebook, which he goes on all the time. I fucked up.
306 hours later 5068388 Anonymous
bump
307 hours later 5068422 Anonymous
are QHI hormones legit?? ive been on 100mg spiro and 2 mg estro from them for 3 weeks now and so far no changes and today i woke up with a raging boner :((((
307 hours later 5068431 Anonymous
>>5068422
I can't say if that place is legit, what does it stand for anyway? But 3 weeks is not anywhere enough time for your dick to stop having random boners. Gotta wait a fair bit longer, don't worry.
307 hours later 5068461 Anonymous
>>5061022
>>5061534
Just do what I did. When dad called and asked me to come over for the holidays I just hung up the phone without saying anything.
316 hours later 5069784 Anonymous
>>5068461
I already called and told him tho, he said that he'd be driving all the way over here to talk about it when he has the chance. He sounded like he was worried I was being manipulated by some creepy old guy into being some sex slave, makes me wonder what kind of shit he watches.
321 hours later 5070689 Anonymous
>>5069784
fox news obviously
321 hours later 5070765 Anonymous
>>5008019
I've been trying to battle gender dysphoria with drinking and drug use for years now, but every day it feels worse and worse. If I come out my relatives will want nothing to do with me, I'll lose my job and have to face a load more personal issues that will most likely leave me more depressed than I currently am. What do I do?
325 hours later 5071875 Anonymous
>>5070765
Stagnating only makes depression worse, do /something/ positive.
325 hours later 5071895 Anonymous
How much does HRT generally cost? I'm Australian and the medical bills are piling up on me pretty quickly thanks to my general poor health and mental state.
326 hours later 5072008 Anonymous (20151012_062454.jpg 2988x5312 2669kB)
makeup advice please :)))
326 hours later 5072046 Anonymous
>>5072008
a paper bag
326 hours later 5072053 Anonymous
>>5072046
Fuck yes hahah
326 hours later 5072061 Anonymous
>>5071895
We have centerlink for a reason fucktard
326 hours later 5072079 Anonymous
>>5072061
I have a job that pays well enough, my bills are just really getting to be expensive.
326 hours later 5072100 Anonymous (12002321_431514147055894_7567784547405340360_n.jpg 720x720 44kB)
>>5072046
329 hours later 5072570 Anonymous
So I'm self medicating, I was wondering should I go to see my doctor and tell him I'm on hormones to ensure that I am in the right range and that no side effects are occurring or will it mean they will try to stop me taking them. I'm in Australia.
329 hours later 5072603 Anonymous (image201510100003.jpg 1280x720 95kB)
>>5072046
such cruelty :(
330 hours later 5072800 Anonymous
>>5072603
looks like someone shrunk moot's face
330 hours later 5072867 Anonymous (2b3.jpg 500x378 16kB)
>>5072603
330 hours later 5072875 Anonymous
>>5072570
They can't stop you from taking them; worst case, you'd find a new doctor. It's worth being open with them.
339 hours later 5073940 Anonymous
>>5072008
I actually really like your look, your makeup is pretty on point as-is
339 hours later 5074063 Anonymous
A while back when I first thought I was maybe trans I talked to my therapist and one or two friends, but I left it as kind of a maybe, since I wasn't completely sure about it then.
Yesterday I talked to my therapist and another friend and said I was certain I was trans, and at the time I was and saying it was pretty relieving.
But today I just feel like the whole thing is absurd and stupid and I'm just depressed and getting on antidepressants will clear it up and all that and that wanting to be a woman is just the same kind of escapist fantasy daydreaming I've been doing my whole life.
Is this just denial?
I still feel relief or something like it when I look at transition timelines or FFS results, and thinking of the future as a man still makes me somewhat uncomfortable and thinking of it as a woman still makes me feel a bit better even though it seems ridiculous right now
340 hours later 5074148 Anonymous
>>5074063
sounds like dysphoria waves
340 hours later 5074158 Anonymous
hey trannies
I selected recorded delivery for my titty skittles from QHI and it got dispatched yesterday
Does this mean I get to check its' tracking, or know what day it will arrive?
I don't want to have my roommate find it or something, need to make sure i'm home
341 hours later 5074333 Anonymous
>Got on mtf hrt after a long while a few months before turning 21
>Was taking them on and off, never fully able to mentally commit with alot of struggle if I'd pass or not or just become a freak if I dedicated to it
>Get in a relationship with a great guy
>Tell him about everything because thats kinda a big thing to not tell a partner about and hes incredibly okay with it
>Get back to being on hrt with his support at 200/4
>But I'm 24 now and its basically too late as test has done too much damage
Just felt like venting after an episode this morning. If you are having doubts at a young age, it WILL come back to haunt you later so do what you can with the short time you have.
341 hours later 5074362 Anonymous
>>5074333
>24 is too late
niceme.me
344 hours later 5074870 Anonymous
>>5074158
i don't think they give tracking, its mostly random when it shows up.
344 hours later 5074916 Anonymous
>>5074870
Yeah for me the first time it was next day, which was way wayyy sooner than what everyone else said.
346 hours later 5075533 Anonymous
Has anyone here got any experience with the German health system?
348 hours later 5075936 Anonymous
>>5074158
don't know about qhi, but my alldaychemist package was very nondescript. i'd bet it's the same...
351 hours later 5076878 Anonymous
is there a point to transitioning when most people don't pass ?
354 hours later 5077605 Anonymous
>>5076878
It helps mentally. It hurts yes to know you'll never make it, but it can hurt more to never try.
357 hours later 5078080 Anonymous
>>5076878
Why transition at all? The whole reason you want to is because you have a mental illness. Just learn how to be what you are.
358 hours later 5078173 Anonymous
>>5078080
dont you get tired of doing this
363 hours later 5078851 Edgar
anybody got experience with transitioning w/o being out to parents? need to hide tits. will come out eventually, but need to move out first.
364 hours later 5078873 Anonymous
>>5078851
Around 1.5y in my father started making comments like, 'hey you should probably start going to the gym... you're looking flabby' (referring to my boobs). Mostly, though, the changes are so small and so slow that people won't notice. Sudden change is easy to notice; gradual change you get used to as it happens and it's hard to notice.
Wear undershirts and slightly baggier clothes and it's very easy to transition quietly for around 2 years. After that it gets awkward when you go out to eat with your family or something and the waiter/waitress says something like, 'miss, what can I get you?'
YMMV depending on genetics, of course... if you end up with 34GG boobs or something you're never going to hide them.
364 hours later 5078874 Anonymous
>>5078851
It really depends on what kind of parents you have, mine never really cared about what I'd do so I got away just wearing sweaters and getting the mail first. I know there's crazy ones out there that search your room when you're not at home and even keep watch over where your money goes.
364 hours later 5078890 Mexiclean
>>5078851
Rapey you don't live at home, whats the deal?
364 hours later 5078984 Edgar
>>5078890
I only live at uni during semester time, and I'm in my final year.
365 hours later 5079094 Anonymous
>>5022291
Depends on your weight and metabolism. Like vitamins your body can only process so much at a time and any extra will just be pissed out. Your endo takes that into account so that you aren't taking more than you can metabolize.
365 hours later 5079106 Anonymous
>>5078851
Find a chest binder or a compression shirt. I wear one every day under my normal clothes, its not perfect but it definitely helps hide.
My dad is definitely starting to notice though, hes been cracking jokes about me being feminine and trans. He likes to banter but its obvious hes noticing.
365 hours later 5079223 Anonymous
I'm talking to a psychologist for the first time tomorrow. Any advice? anecdotes?
366 hours later 5079426 Anonymous
Can you do HRT without a therapist or are the drugs prescription only?
367 hours later 5079501 Anonymous
>>5078851
Sports bra. Do NOT wear a binder.
Also, YMMV, but I was only able to hide it for three months until they caught on. I suck at not being feminine :p
369 hours later 5079970 Anonymous
>>5079426
you can order them online, but it would be nice to get blood tests every once in a while.
369 hours later 5080123 Anonymous
>>5075533
Yes
What do you want to know?
Just had my name change, srs is on it's way
371 hours later 5080564 Anonymous
How does hair transplant take to 'take', and what results can you expect from it? I would need my temples filled so that disgusting male pattern disappears, and then the whole line needs to be lowered 2-3 centimeters to look acceptably female.
Is that something that can happen or am I talking absurd fantasies in here?
371 hours later 5080616 Anonymous
>>5079426
Look up informed consent clinics. If you can find one anywhere reasonably close, go, even if it's a couple of hours away.
You get the best of both worlds, no therapist gatekeeping and medical supervision with blood tests.
372 hours later 5080658 Anonymous
Is it true that spiro is mean't to be taken with a large amount of water? for example 500ml each doseage.
372 hours later 5080672 Anonymous
>>5080658
Not that I've ever heard, but it is a diuretic, so probably isn't a bad idea to take some extra fluids with it.
373 hours later 5080908 Anonymous
>>5080658
Spiro I believe is said to be much mroe effective when you drink lots of water, yep. Also that isn't a large amount of water at all, its just one standard 16.9oz bottle.
373 hours later 5080943 Anonymous
>>5072008
>>5072603
pls tell me this not real.
You have a lot of work m8. if you are mtf
375 hours later 5081368 Anonymous
>>5080564
they can do that shit. you're going to look like a freak for several weeks afterward though
380 hours later 5082433 Anonymous
>>5080123
Do I have to go to a psychologist, or can my GP prescribe HRT?
How willing to pay are the Krankenkassen?
380 hours later 5082466 Anonymous
>>5080123
Also, are there any good resources on the web? I've found nothing really useful.
381 hours later 5082485 Anonymous
Im probably moving to england next year, im pre everything, and very probably i will start hormones as soon as I get there.
Is it too hard to get hormones ?
381 hours later 5082524 Anonymous
yo guys serious question here
when it comes to transitioning, what do hormones actually do to your body? how does it make your features softer (mtf)? does it affect your bones so you develop curves? if not, what causes this? i am obviously not well versed in this topic and would appreciate some insight on this as i am genuinely curious and would like to hear from trans folks their experiences with a transition.
381 hours later 5082554 Anonymous
>>5082524
HRT does not do anything for bone growth unless you start before your bones have finished growing. When people develop curves usually what happened is that instead of storing fat in male-disposed locations (such as the stomach) they start storing fat in female-disposed locations (hips and butt, also boobs). The muscle loss also helps make their shape less square. When it talks about features of you face getting softer, usually what happens is you get fatter cheeks, in general a fatter face, I think. So your bones don't show as much. I'm not an expert btw, this is just what I've noticed/heard.
393 hours later 5084307 Anonymous
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393 hours later 5084320 Anonymous (1425667158701.png 151x156 5kB)
Transition really isnt an option for me, so im still looking for alternative treatment options for gender dysphoria.
So far i've tried cognitive therapy, christian conversion "therapy", several antidepressants, quetiapine, benzos.
Ignoring it and prayer were in there too of course.
And so far the only thing that helped at least a bit are benzos, which i cant take for long for obvious reasons.
Is there ANYTHING else i could try? Some way to get rid off or at least decrease dysphoria and all it brings?
Is it time to give up?
393 hours later 5084390 Anonymous
>>5084320
See you in a decade, hun. I'd like to meet your wife and children!
393 hours later 5084428 Anonymous
>>5084390
Damn, come one anon thats not necessary.
393 hours later 5084450 Anonymous
>>5082554
>>5082524
Hips are not fused until your mid-20s (24-28) so if you start before then you might develop some curves/wider hips (depending on genetics/specific stage of puberty). But yeah it's mostly just fat redistribution. In the face hormones will prevent further masculinisation, and will redistribute fat there, so overall your appearance will be softer. It also improve things like skin tone, which helps too.
393 hours later 5084467 Anonymous
>>5084390
Im pretty sure that i wont make another decade the way things are anyways.
But if there is some other long term viable way of treatment......
Maybe some progress in neurosurgery if thats the cause for GID.
394 hours later 5084507 Anonymous
>>5084450
>Hips are not fused until your mid-20s (24-28)
Source please friend! I was always under the impression it was 20-21
394 hours later 5084541 Anonymous
>>5084507
I'll try to find a source... it is possible I was mistaken and 21 is correct. I can't remember where I read that.
394 hours later 5084655 Anonymous
>>5084428
I'm just shitposting
>>5084467
I wish there were, but any researcher who would even write a proposal looking for a cure would be disembowled because it's not "acceptable" to do so. Just accept yourself anon ;^) be proud ;^))
405 hours later 5087407 Anonymous
>>5084467
transitioning is pretty much the only cure for gender dysphoria.
417 hours later 5089365 Anonymous
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424 hours later 5091035 Anonymous
Anyone have any good experiences with therapists in Florida?
424 hours later 5091082 Anonymous (1444874761195.gif 396x290 296kB)
>>5008019
hi. i started to take birth control pills. its been a month now
i just want to know when my breasts will start developing
im skinnyfat i notice some boob but i dont know if its man boob or is hormone boob
426 hours later 5091429 Anonymous
Should probably precursor by mentioning
I'm not trans, i just take hormones (i know it sounds dumb but i really don't want to transition I just want to -look- like a girl)
I ran out of hormones like 2 weeks ago and now i'm on them again as of 3 days ago
When will i get back to how I was? I can feel minor mood swings coming on and I just don't feel as feminine as i was.
I don't know how to describe it but once I had been on hrt for a while consistently, i just felt good about my body and face, and even though very little changed when i came off it, my self image took a hit again
426 hours later 5091550 Anonymous
>>5091429
>I'm not trans, i just take hormones (i know it sounds dumb but i really don't want to transition I just want to -look- like a girl)
>I don't know how to describe it but once I had been on hrt for a while consistently, i just felt good about my body and face, and even though very little changed when i came off it, my self image took a hit again
consider the possibility that you are in fact trans
427 hours later 5091652 Anonymous
>>5061022
>>5078874
>>5079501
How on earth can you literally become a girl while living with your parents without them noticing?
Don't you have girl clothes to wash? Don't you sometimes not have multiple tight layers over your chest? Don't you ever stop using your male voice?
427 hours later 5091683 Anonymous
what do i do if i pass but still feel uncomfortable and ugly and the thoughts are so pervasive that I want to kill myself? I've told my therapist and her advice was to just get over it.
I hate my life, I hate what I am. Is it wrong to hate being trans? I hate that I can't have kids. I just want to be normal and that will never happen so I want to die
427 hours later 5091684 Anonymous
>>5079501
Why a sports over a binder? I have both, the sports bra is way more obvious and impossible for me to hide under a tshirt. Do you maybe have a brand that isn't too noticeable?
427 hours later 5091850 Anonymous
>>5091683
no it's not wrong.
but you also have to remember that even if you weren't trans, you might still have been ugly, abnormal, and sterile.
get a better therapist
427 hours later 5091860 Anonymous
what the fuck are you supposed to do about nails?
the only time they look ok is after I've picked them down to nothing and they've grown in. nail clippers make them look retarded and are hard to handle
428 hours later 5091930 Anonymous
>>5091683
>I've told my therapist and her advice was to just get over it.
See someone new. You need help to get through this and this sort of advice is not help.
428 hours later 5091947 Anonymous (1383697591708.jpg 640x512 89kB)
Hi everyone
First of all I'm not transgender myself, I guess u am what's called a cis man, I guess?
But over the time I've talking with a person that is a transgender mtf, mostly almost around a year, at first it was just friendly talking, I don't like judging people so I didn't care about the person she was, but over the time we started sharing a lot and to be honest I think I've had fall in love with her, I'm not really informed in all around being a transgender person and the lack of information scares me, mostly because I dont want to say something that could hurt her, so I started learning a bit about dysphoria and all that crap, even tho I'm not sure if she likes me as well just for her to feel more comfy around me.
And this has been working, I'm starting to realize she is now more open to people, to show who she really is, but now I can't stop thinking about her founding someone else, I know we don't have an official relationship but I just don't want to lose her
How does even a relationship with a transgender works? I was raised on this very strict set of old ideas of how relationships are and that's just outdated and unreliable, what should I do?
428 hours later 5091950 Anonymous
>>5091850
>>5091930
I've seen dozens and I like her otherwise. I feel like it is my fault by being either unhelpful or stubburn
I don't want to switch again I just had a suicide attempt 4 weeks ago
428 hours later 5091953 Anonymous
When did you first crossdress? >>5091480
428 hours later 5091955 Anonymous
>>5091947
tell her how you feel. it's sweet that you looked into dysphoria and all that. seem like a great guy
428 hours later 5091960 Anonymous
>>5091947
>How does even a relationship with a transgender works?
what the fuck are you even asking
428 hours later 5091965 Anonymous
Reached the bump limit, went ahead and made the new one
>>5091964
>>5091964
430 hours later 5092395 Anonymous
>>5091550
Ya ya i know how it sounds but i really don't want to transition, and when i take hrt i rarely get the urge to wear girls clothes.
431 hours later 5092421 Anonymous
>>5092395
I'm interested in what you consider transitioning to be? You're taking hormone replacement therapy. That physically changes your body. For a lot of people, that IS transitioning.
And there's really no such thing as girl's clothing. There are a lot of cis women who don't wear "girl's clothing".
431 hours later 5092466 Anonymous (41lljMdjiuL._SY300_.jpg 300x300 13kB)
>>5091860
Manicure them. Don't pick them.
Get a file and a manicure block (pic related).
432 hours later 5092555 Anonymous
>>5092421
I mean I don't present as a girl.
I don't want the whole 'coming out', or anything like that, and i certainly don't want to be a 'genderfluid' tumblrina. I just want my body and face to look more feminine.
432 hours later 5092562 Anonymous
>>5092555
lol okay
432 hours later 5092574 Anonymous (3y1YLee.gif 480x274 989kB)
>>5092562
what did i say something wrong
433 hours later 5092704 Anonymous
>>5092466
so you can just use that to trim them and then smooth them?
434 hours later 5092824 Anonymous
>>5092704
You cut them normally with nail clipper or scissors (or not if you want to keep them long). Then you use a file to round off the edges, then use the block to remove the ridges on the flat part of the nail if you need to, then use the block to buff/polish it.
438 hours later 5093771 Anonymous
>>5092574
it's probably along the line of that you're gonna cave in and transition fully anyway.
440 hours later 5094201 Anonymous (tumblr_inline_ner96gtSoo1rm7ozi.png 480x280 83kB)
Hey everyone, not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but whatever.
I've been having serious conflictions about weather I'm trans or not for the past week.
Now I've thought I was trans since I was like 8 (really just kinda thought about being a girl a lot as a kid), but I heard the term AGP about a week ago and now I'm not sure if I'm trans. When I DO dress up in girl clothes, I get excited, and that's what worries me. I thought I might be getting excited because it's kinda liberating, but at the same time, it makes me horny as fuck and I don't know what the fuck to do.
Someone help me please, I just want to be happy ;_;
440 hours later 5094235 Anonymous
>>5094201
Do you want to be a girl?
Y: trans
N: not trans
442 hours later 5095006 Anonymous
>>5093771
I actually legitimately don't think I ever can.
My family would be supportive. I'd find a way if I HAD to, but... I don't know, i'm petrified of ever doing it. I thought about it before, the anxiety of it all made me want to die.
When I just resolved to be a feminine guy that was okay. I had no obligation, there was so stress or anxiety, there was nobody to tell...
It's not that I don't want to be female, it's that I don't want to transition. I'd rather be male than some sort of uncomfortable grey area that people laugh about behind my back, but I can't deal with being a -man- yet. One day I'll figure that out.
450 hours later 5097236 Anonymous
>>5094201
agp isn't real, it's just some bullshit gatekeeping stuff. cis women get excited at times like that too
>>5094235
never understand how people here can pretend it's so simple. there's a lot of self-doubt involved.
450 hours later 5097267 Anonymous
>>5097236
>cis women get excited at times like that too
this doesn't mean that agp doesn't exist though
450 hours later 5097283 Anonymous
>>5097267
it doesn't exist in the sense of "if you experience this feeling you can't be trans", which is really the only way it's used
450 hours later 5097346 Anonymous
>>5097283
>which is really the only way it's used
false
450 hours later 5097367 Anonymous
>>5097346
okay
452 hours later 5097621 Anonymous
So, I really think that I'm going to DIY but I want to be 100% sure that I'll be successful in actually getting the things before I blow money on it. So, I started with the legality of buying drugs online in Canada (where I am).
It boils down to this:
>Under Section C.01.045 of the Food and Drug Regulations importation of Schedule F drugs is restricted to a practitioner, a drug manufacturer, a wholesale druggist, a registered pharmacist, or a resident of a foreign country while a visitor in Canada.
>Importations of prescription drugs by Canadian residents are not permitted by mail or courier.
>Health Canada may use enforcement discretion to permit a Canadians returning from abroad to bring with them on their person a single course of treatment or a 90-day supply based on the directions for use, whichever is less, of a prescription drug.
>Individuals are permitted to import a single course of treatment or a 90-day supply based on the directions for use, whichever is less, of an Over the Counter Drug.
>Larger volumes shipments, multiple repeat shipments of the same product within short periods of time (<3 months), shipments accompanied by or associated with materials to be used for advertising or promotion, and/or shipments that indicate a Canadian business is involved in the transaction, will be considered commercial shipments...
So, if you're Canadian it is all fine and dandy for you to get 90 days of OTC drugs from outside of the country however you want. If you are caught returning to the country with prescription drugs you MAY be allowed to return with 90 days of it. You can order 90 days of drugs every 90+ days. Everything else is illegal.
Sources:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/comp li-conform/import-export/gui-0084_b iu-uif-eng.php#a6
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/comp li-conform/import-export/pol-0060_b iu-uif-eng.php#a52
FYI Schedule F drugs are prescription drugs.
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Hopefully this is useful for people. Maybe it could go in a pastebin or something.
452 hours later 5097632 Anonymous
>>5097621
However, according to the Food and Drug Regulations it seems to have been repealed in 2013. I don't know what this means for the rest of the information from those two pages, as they were last updated in 2011 and 2010.
Legislation repealing Schedule F drugs and redefining pd: http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2 /2013/2013-06-19/html/sor-dors122-e ng.php
Prescription drugs are still regulated but I can't find anything in those changes that change the 90 day etc. stuff. There isn't a usable summary of what the law currently is now either. I couldn't find any legislation passed during the 40th or 41st parliaments that said anything about prescription drugs either, including those amending the relevant acts.
Lastly, in the Food and Drug Regulations, under CANADIAN STANDARD DRUGS there are 5 entries specifically about estrogen. Particularly conjugated or esterified estrogens. I don't know what are esterified estrogens but things like Premarin are conjugated (iirc). It has this to say about those:
>Conjugated estrogens shall be the drug conjugated estrogens described in The Pharmacopeia of the United States of America, XVIII (1970), except that
(a) the dilute assay preparation A, assay preparations A and B and equilin reagent described therein shall be prepared by official method DO-29, Conjugated Estrogens, October 15, 1981; and
(b) the identification test described therein shall be performed by official method DO-29, Conjugated Estrogens, October 15, 1981.
I don't know what the Pharmacopeia of the USA says about them or what that even means but it sounds like they do tests on them. I don't know if this test is done to imported goods by special customs or by industry regulators for manufacturers or what. But that might be of some relevance.
Sources:
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regul ations/C.R.C.,_c._870/page-289.html #h-276
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regul ations/C.R.C.,_c._870/page-290.html #h-286
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pastebin? : http://pastebin.com/TrfaCWp2
452 hours later 5097644 Anonymous
>>5097367
the word means something though. say "being agp doesn't mean you can't be trans" if you want, but it's definitely real
452 hours later 5097645 Anonymous
>>5097644
okay. that's sort of pedantic and irrelevant, but i got you.
452 hours later 5097646 Anonymous
>>5097632
the sites will reship your meds for free if they get seized by customs. tons of people do this, and canada is probably more lax than the police state we have here in the us
452 hours later 5097666 Anonymous
>>5097632
>>5097621
Oh, I guess advice on DIYing spiro and estradiol in Canada is very welcome. That was a long sidetrack to go on when I just came to ask for advice in the first place.
How legit is http://www.givetolive.ca/canadian-g eneric-pharmacy/? Does anybody know anything specific about them. Since they ship within Canada it avoids all that import stuff. It's also the only such one that doesn't require prescriptions. However I'm seeing extremely wide variation in prices and such amongst sites. They're at almost twice the cost of all day chemist for instance.
>>5097646
They might, they might not. And Canada may or it may not. Never have I seen conclusive or detailed info about DIYing in Canada one way or another. I have heard of people describing it as impossible or getting denials at customs though.
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