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2014-11-16 01:20 3598513 Anonymous (Voltaire.jpg 960x671 197kB)
would you agree that in modern society H8rs are the only real independent thinkers?

1 min later 3598518 Anonymous
what a generous interpretation of this voltaire quote

8 min later 3598538 Anonymous (western culture.png 960x730 159kB)
I watched a video where a reporter asks a bunch of college kids if ISIS is a threat to world peace. Many of them said that America was a threat to world peace. Do i think those people are legitimately independent thinkers? Hell no. They've been taught that their ancestors were horrible people, that white people are horrible people, that their country is despicable, that loving your country makes you a bad person, men are all woman hating idiots etcetera etcertera. It's not independent thinking, it's glorified self contempt.

12 min later 3598554 Anonymous
>>3598513 >find out who you are not allowed to criticize Jews.

12 min later 3598557 Anonymous (rainbow hitler.jpg 560x695 118kB)
>>3598538 it seems that everyone I meet thinks im some sort of social justice warrior just because im a obvious gay so I have to listen to that crap everyday constantly because I obviously cant tell them what I really think

14 min later 3598567 Anonymous
Individualism was a trick that hurts the collective good of the people by teaching them that they're more different than similar.

20 min later 3598596 Anonymous
>>3598567 Depends on whether or not it affects relative social superiority. For example, if it's a quality that will raise you up in society, you'll claim you have it in common with everyone above you. If it's something that will lower you socially, then you'll claim you're "unique" and the quality doesn't apply to you.

29 min later 3598652 Anonymous
>>3598538 >Many of them said that America was a threat to world peace. Considering that America's continuous attempts to destabilize dozens upon dozens of countries around the world for nearly the duration of its existence, and that it is directly responsible for the creation of ISIS, I'd say that these kids are right on the money. Glad to see that this generation is on the right track.

34 min later 3598674 Anonymous
>>3598513 Undependent thinking is overrated. I don't meant that as in "do as I say". But literally, you need to discuss your thoughts with others in order to make good decisions and moral judgements.

49 min later 3598772 Anonymous
>>3598596 Good point. The construction of identities is in and of itself a stratifying mechanism because those with more power become 'more' of an individual while the lower class are relegated to statistics and stereotypes. People recognize celebrities in public all the time but if a loved one was out on the streets you probably wouldn't think anything past homeless person and walk past them without making contact.

52 min later 3598784 Anonymous (iraq-slaughter-03.jpg 1565x796 449kB)
>>3598652 ISIS wasn't create by America you idiot, ISIS is Islam. The ummah created ISIS, America was just stupid for leave Iraq to soon.

1 hours later 3598818 Anonymous (1398790365406.png 349x503 133kB)
>reverse racism doesnt exist! >reverse sexism doenst exist! I cant believe I used to be on the same side as these people

1 hours later 3598823 Anonymous
>>3598652 This is correct, our constant meddling in the world has only caused us more problems, but when politicians point this out, and logically conclude that we should just retire the police uniform and let these foreign groups duke it out, they're called isolationists and xenophobics and all kinds of unsubstantiated attacks.

1 hours later 3598852 Anonymous
>>3598818 They really don't, because those in power define race/gender and the interaction between races/genders. Racism and sexism are institutionalized ideologies, not individual acts of discrimination.

1 hours later 3598858 Anonymous (muh muh muh muh.png 305x348 69kB)
>>3598652 this is a fact that has been well known since the 1960s see the thing is that the people who often say america is the real problem rather then the isis often are under the strange belief that "radical/wahhabist/fundamentalist" islam is just a belief of a vocal and violent minority this is false the people who practice fundamental Islam are the people who actually practice Islam by the teachings of the Koran "progressive" Muslims are like the "spiritual" Christians who have never read the bible in their life isis of course isnt exactly a threat to anyone outside the middle east but downplaying their actions is a threat

1 hours later 3598882 Anonymous (well.gif 230x250 1968kB)
>>3598852 uhh no see your changing the meaning of the word again to better suit your bullshit racism and sexism is discrimination against people because of their race or sex nothing more nothing less

1 hours later 3598886 Anonymous
>>3598852 >Racism and sexism are institutionalized ideologies, not individual acts of discrimination. That's what academics and activists have tried to redefine the terms as. Doesn't make it true. Don't get me wrong, institutional oppressions are unidirectional toward women and minorities, and are stronger forces than individual acts of prejudice, but trying to say individual discrimination is no longer *ism is such bullshit and only serves to excuse those acts of discrimination.

1 hours later 3598945 Anonymous
>>3598784 >>3598858 The Islamic world was developing democratic political processes in the aftermath of World War 2, but because the movements in question were not very keen on becoming marketplaces for American consumer products/exploitable labor for American firms, we collectively decided that it was in our best interest to violently repress them. The result is violently Anti-Western movements in exchange for getting to make cheaper swords in Pakistan. Hooray for America. Hooray for Capitalism.

1 hours later 3599054 Anonymous
>>3598513 I'm not allowed to criticize retards. Are we ruled by retards?

1 hours later 3599068 Anonymous
>>3599054 What is there to even criticize retards about? Just keep them safely away from children and fluffy bunnies, it's fine.

1 hours later 3599075 Anonymous
>>3599068 >What is there to even criticize retards about? they smell bad and scream for no reason in public.

1 hours later 3599078 Anonymous
>>3599054 Is W. still secretely in power?

1 hours later 3599080 Anonymous
>>3599078 nah, someone even worse

1 hours later 3599107 Anonymous
>>3598784 Who funded the madrasas?

2 hours later 3599365 Anonymous
>>3599107 jews

2 hours later 3599377 Anonymous
>>3598513 >Who you are not ALLOWED to criticize You're allowed to criticize anybody. If the majority of the population disagrees with you they are well within their right to voice their disagreement, just as you're free to spew your "H8." Nothing is restricting your right to criticize anyone and everyone if you damn well please. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from the opinions of others.

3 hours later 3599408 Anonymous (1098190.jpg 480x360 19kB)
>>3598852 >call some random nigger a nigger >"das raycis" >"Nope, my individual act of discrimination does not count as racism, my negro friend." >mfw

3 hours later 3599440 Anonymous (11.jpg 851x955 204kB)
>>3599377 "H8" speech is illegal in a lot of countries my friend

3 hours later 3599484 Anonymous
>>3599054 >are we ruled by retards yes

3 hours later 3599508 Anonymous
>>3598823 This post gives me hope for this site.

3 hours later 3599550 Anonymous
>>3598886 I agree with your premise, but my issue is that institutional oppression isn't comparable to person-to-person bigotry. At the same time, if we try to differentiate them too much, we get idiots like these >>3599408 who completely miss the point.

3 hours later 3599575 Anonymous (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.png 411x318 11kB)
>>3599550 that doesnt change the fact that your trying to make it so racism and sexism only applies to one group of people that in of itself is racist and sexist

3 hours later 3599604 Anonymous
>>3599377 That's looking at it purely in terms of political power. There is also such a thing as social power, and the same principle applies. If you look at how much trouble someone gets in for simply wearing a shirt with attractive women on it and is publicly, internationally shamed until he apologizes, then consider what the reaction would be if that same person had done something more extreme like publicly criticize feminism, it becomes clear that those groups have power over us. I think it is naive to view legal force as the only kind of force that influences our lives.

3 hours later 3599636 Anonymous (lilyhammer.jpg 689x457 57kB)
>>3599550 >we get idiots like these >>3599408 (You) who completely miss the point. But i didn't miss the point, I'm pointing out that redefining racism makes perceived racism as not racist at all.

3 hours later 3599654 Anonymous (1412636005571.jpg 782x814 126kB)
>>3599440 THE MINISTRY OF PEACE THE MINISTRY OF LOVE THE MINISTRY OF PLENTY

4 hours later 3599660 Anonymous
>>3599575 No, I'm not. Please point out how I'm trying to do so when I explicitly stated person-to-person bigotry, like minorities going against other minorities. >>3599636 I'm not sure how racism is being 'redefined' here. The word has always had a different denotation in sociology versus vernacular.

4 hours later 3599698 Anonymous
>>3599660 I like how what you just said is completely ignorant to how you pretty much said racism and sexism is only ever the apparent "majority" actions against the apparent "minority"

4 hours later 3599716 Anonymous
>>3599698 How did I say that when I recognized that minority against minority bigotry is very much a thing?

4 hours later 3599738 Anonymous
>>3599604 Feminism is publicly criticized all the time.

4 hours later 3599742 Anonymous (1.jpg 527x408 80kB)
>>3599716 I think it should be obvious to you that were not talking about korean americans being racist towards japanese americans try being realistic

4 hours later 3599751 Anonymous
>>3599738 not by anyone with a lot to lose

12 hours later 3600858 Anonymous
>>3599440 Didn't they also do a thing where politicians have to pre-view any content that svt publishes?

12 hours later 3600907 Anonymous
>>3598513 It is far more likely that we are ruled over by the sjws. sjw ejw jew

13 hours later 3600913 Anonymous
>>3598858 Radical/wahhabist/fundamentalist islam is like creationism - It was a fringe group two hundred years ago, but because those fringes were rich, it became much bigger than it was originally.

13 hours later 3600926 Anonymous
>>3598513 You are stuck in the mindset that you have to pick a side and either be a SJW or a hater. When in reality both of those groups fucking suck and you shouldn't associate with them.

13 hours later 3600960 Anonymous
>>3598557 Tell them what you really think. 9/10 people will agree with you. Read some postcolonial writers like Gayatri Spivak and argue for 'creolity' -- a united humanity, as opposed to arbitrary 'privilege' crap. You'll easily turn others to your viewpoint.

13 hours later 3600973 Anonymous
>>3600913 >implying human agency is entirely dictated by wealth. Please son, that historical Marxist shit is half a century old now. Economics didn't cause Cromwell and others to execute Charles I: they did it because he was an insufferable prick. Parliament hardly ever paid their troops. They fought on the back of ideology.

14 hours later 3601027 Anonymous
>>3600973 >Economics didn't cause Cromwell and others to execute Charles I: they did it because he was an insufferable prick. What the fuck are you talking about? Parliament had a monetary advantage and greatly outnumbered the enemy. Pay was 8 pence for infantry, 2 shillings for cavalry. They fought on the back of everything armies fight on the back of: DOSH. LOADSAMONEYYYYYY.

14 hours later 3601031 Anonymous
>>3600973 >historical Marxist shit >implying troop salaries and supply costs were invented by Karl Marx

14 hours later 3601036 Anonymous
>media and justice system frame panicked self defense murder during potentially life-threatening attack as a "hate crime" because of the deceased's race >teenager suspended for fighting after walking away from an attacker, then mocked by police officer while school principal looks on saying nothing It's not institutionalized though because whitey.

14 hours later 3601038 Anonymous
>>3600926 This. Both groups are full of angst-ridden morons with an axe to grind against whoever they can point a finger at first.

14 hours later 3601040 Anonymous
>>3599440 SWEDEN YES

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