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2014-01-15 11:53 2008344 Anonymous (87fd00a4ca80dafe0b90143bc33a99be.jpg 484x700 386kB)
Hey, hey, hey! Guess what legbutts? When the Technological Singularity occurs in 2045 you will be able to use advanced AI and nanotechnology to alter your body and mind in radical new ways. You could even use this technology to start a family! Will you make any alterations to yourself? Will you have children? What would make you happy?

22 min later 2008495 Anonymous
To be gay and still be able to have a kid that is biologically mine and my boyfriends would be nice. Also white hair but that doesn't really have anything to do with my orentation.

4 hours later 2009870 Anonymous
>>2008344 I like you, OP. I always feel like I'm the only fucker who knows about/ expects the technological singularity.

4 hours later 2009905 Anonymous
make my penis 999 inches and fuck myself to death with it

7 hours later 2010669 Anonymous (1355107958082.jpg 600x884 136kB)
I'd never get my hopes up genuinely... But the further away from human, the better. Being just one person or thing is utterly constraining. There's only so much a single single gender/race/species/carbon-based lifeform can accomplish and experience. I just want to see more; y'know? Hell, I want to see it all.

9 hours later 2011198 Anonymous
>>2008344 Jesus Christ. How unrealistic can you be? That's why you need to stop with the goddamn anime. You think all this shit, but it's not, you shit. Stop. Fucking stop.

9 hours later 2011207 Anonymous
It's not going to be "you". It's going to be people with money. There are going to be far fewer people with money.

10 hours later 2011243 Anonymous
>>2011198 Not the OP, but The Singularity is actually a theory proposed by a guy named Ray Kurzweil who's a pretty genius inventor and entrepreneur. It has nothing to do with anime.

10 hours later 2011250 Anonymous (FREE MARKET SPACE.jpg 800x600 199kB)
>>2011207 >It's going to be people with money. Yes and once we free the money everyone would have money. Unless we continue to live in the inflationary fiat money shithole we do now.

10 hours later 2011330 Anonymous (peasant intensifies.jpg 224x195 57kB)
>>2011250 >cold beer that was made in America Only utter shit-tier plebs drink domestic beer, what slob wrote this?

10 hours later 2011344 Anonymous
>>2011243 The singularity was proposed before Kurzweil for sure.

10 hours later 2011414 Anonymous
>>2011250 It's going to be the second thing. The dollar just needs to float for another decade so the oligarchs can suck the North American economy dry before moving to China.

11 hours later 2011436 Anonymous
>>2011330 >implying American breweries aren't the best in the world What are you, some lager-swilling chump?

11 hours later 2011443 Anonymous
>>2011436 I have a refrigerator full of Pilsner. Anything less tastes like thin piss. Enjoy your watery swill.

11 hours later 2011493 Anonymous (573729405d1510ad21a04b5388ea9130.jpg 550x630 318kB)
>>2011198 >Jesus Christ. How unrealistic can you be? That's why you need to stop with the goddamn anime. Hey, hey, hey! Guess what Anon? The Technological Singularity is a well established theory. http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty/v inge/misc/singularity.html It is the moment in time when artificial intelligence will have progressed to the point of a greater-than-human intelligence, radically changing civilization and perhaps nature. Ray Kurzweil estimates this time to be 2045. Have you heard of Ray Kurzweil? he was recently made Director of Engineering at Google. That's right, Google, the worlds largest and most powerful company is attempting to jump start the singularity. Anyone who wants to be the little girl will be able to become one. Anyone who wants to be a big strong man will be able to become one. If you want to tinker with your brain and become straight you will be able to do that too. Cheer up Anon! The future is bright.

11 hours later 2011494 Anonymous
>>2011443 Pilsner is piss. I drink heavy ales.

11 hours later 2011497 Anonymous
>>2011414 >The dollar just needs to float for another decade so the oligarchs can suck the North American economy dry before moving to China. China would never tolerate a none-Han Chinese having that much power in their economy. Once they no longer need the West's markets the Chinese State will simply seize any foreign assets.

12 hours later 2011554 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (sparky4_from_the_future.png 666x666 160kB)
>>2008344 it will happen in 2029 this is me in 2036 i will have many kids and i want to live for a very very long time... why do you think i want to go to Japan? wwww

12 hours later 2011556 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (future.jpg 962x1197 129kB)
>>2011493 >>2008344 want to be techno friends?

12 hours later 2011573 Anonymous
>>2008344 >technological singularity I thought that we had a similar discussion in /lit/ yesterday. Apple II Release year: 1977 Memory: 4KB Price: $ 1298 Price/KB: 324.5 Apple III Release year: 1980 Memory: 128KB Price: $ 3192 (adjusted for inflation according to Inflation Calculator) Price/KB: $ 24.94 The equation of a linear graph is y = kx + m k = dy/dx dy = 24.94 - 324.5 = - 299,56 dx = 1980 - 1977 = 3 k = -299,56 / 3 = -99.85 Where 1977 is x = 0 324.5 = -99.85 * 0 + m 324.5 = m y(0) = -99.85X + 324.5 -99.85X = -324.5 X = 3.25 And X=3 was 1980, remember? That means that the very year Apple III was released memory would've cost nothing and then had a negative cost. Or at least in 1981.

12 hours later 2011575 Anonymous (pmEaB0i.jpg 500x741 133kB)
>>2011554 >it will happen in 2029 We will have fully immersive VR by 2029. I think that's too early for the actual Singularity though. >>2011556 Yes. /technofriendfistbump.

12 hours later 2011578 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (FUTURE1273020006652.jpg 704x704 325kB)
>>2011575 ^^ we have a very bright future with computers!

20 hours later 2012905 Anonymous
I'm just wondering, but, does anyone actually know what the singularity means? It just refers to the fact that technological advancement is and will continue to happen faster and faster, so that the chronological distance at which you can make the foggiest guess as to what will be possible grows closer and closer, until eventually every year might as well be a whole new technological era. IIRC the nomenclature comes from black holes and literally means "we can't possibly know how the fuck shit will work." I think the sci-fi authors of the 50s and 60s would have described the digital revolution as a technological singularity, we're all watching it play out, no one really saw it coming or understood how important it would be. Our brains are connected via the internet into one meta-society and it will be decades before we can look back and sum up exactly what that did to human culture, but it's sure as fuck doing something. There are several best-guesses for when the next "big thing" is, that will make human affairs as we know them a thing of the past. Supersmart a.i. is a good guess, but having a very smart mind in a box doesn't change things as much as I think people expect it to. The real singularity, the holy fuck shit your pants because history is now over moment, is going to be when technology just starts advancing itself, without being limited by the iterative process of human innovation. This could mean a.i. that can design a.i. smarter than themselves, but it doesn't necessarily have to be 'intelligence' as we understand it, it could be any engine of invention which is capable of making something better than itself without human help. It could mean self-optimizing organisms

20 hours later 2012969 Anonymous
>>2011573 Are you stupid? Why would it be a fucking linear equation?

21 hours later 2013081 Anonymous
>>2008344 Well, firstly I have to become a woman. The fact that the exact same technology that'll allow me to do that will allow me to turn myself into a 10/10 will make me capable of competing with 'women born women.' If push comes to shove, I'll just hide what I used to be. I'm not sure if I want to have white hair and blue eyes, or brown hair and brown eyes like I do now. I know that I'd like my eyeballs and irises to be a tad bigger - I'm not sure how far beyond the 'norm' I could go without looking freakish. I want my face to look like a five year old's, and I want what I guess could be called 'a twelve year old's body with the secondary sexual characteristics of an adult woman.' As for kids; yes, twenty of them. I'm going to have ten boys and ten girls. So far, I've come up with four names. I wish I could get into the specifics, but at that point I'd be giving out identifying-information-to-be, and I don't want anyone destroying my childrens' lifes because their mother 'is a transsexual' or something stupid like that. >>2009870 Think on the bright side; if no one else sees it coming, there'll be less people in line when it happens, and you'll get a better 'place.' >>2011198 Would you like me to link you to one of the articles about the new 'biopen,' or would something on carbon nanotube or vanadium muscles hundreds of times stronger then biological ones be more to your taste? Sticking your fingers in your ears, and pretending things are still like they were when you first laughed at 1950's futurism doesn't change reality.

21 hours later 2013143 Anonymous
>>2011207 >It's not going to be "you". It's going to be people with money Of course, 'they' always get everything, and you get nothing. Who are these people with money? What's the cut-off? You're being irrationally pessimistic here. Simply look at it from the profit motive; charge $1bil, and you have a few hundred billion as your maximum profit. Charge $100k, and suddenly half the world can afford your product by paying in installments. Assuming a market of 3.5 billion people, that would be $350tril as your maximum profit. They couldn't afford NOT to sell it to us. >There are going to be far fewer people with money World GDP per capita is going up, the number of people living on under $1 and $2.5 a day, and the number of people starving is going down. Things are getting better, not worse. If anything, the average person will be in a better situation to buy what they want in the future, not in a worse one. >>2011414 What happens when they don't need Chinese labor anymore? Even FOXCONN is mechanizing. They won't need to 'move' to any country; they can just seal themselves off from the rest of the economy and society and never think about the rest of us again. If they insist on staying within society and the global economy, they'll be forced to deal with a world that doesn't need their capital to get things done; their power is dwindling, and they're running scared. This happened before with the feudal lords who were crushed between the gears of industry. Like the King, the CEO will be beheaded, and replaced by a new group of people who've mastered the new economy, which will be based on resource and energy independence and decentralization. We'll return to feudalism, but everyone will be a Lord, and there'll be no surfs or villains.

21 hours later 2013252 Anonymous (1389625374940.jpg 445x445 184kB)
>singularity

21 hours later 2013260 Anonymous
>>2013143 THings are getting better for the rest of the world because the industrial revolution and modern standards of living are catching up with the rest of the world. It's the same reason the Anglosphere was so prosperous for a while there. The reason it's happening so slowly and hasnt' happened sooner is because the world's oligarchs don't want those bumfuck-peasants to own their own capital, because they SHOULDN'T be people participating in an economy, they should be human capital put to work for the kings. That's what they want for everyone. What's happening in the anglosphere now? Money is snowballing, representative political systems have been compromised, and the labor market is being systematically repressed so that they have an able and eager volunteer military to take other peoples' stuff. Revolutions, defiance, displays of non-consent, and guillotines are what split money up. And the world's oligarchs are getting very good at preventing these things. The technology of oppression is advancing too. When you talk about price points and maximizing profit you are assuming that the bulk of the population has any money at all, that they aren't in debt peonage. The natural endpoint of capitalism is one where the produces and consumers are the same people. "Market demands" will consist of things that serve their desires or interests, and that's the direction technology will advance in. I'm not saying it's hopeless, but the only hope lies in people seeing a future of oppression and flying against it. What I think is more likely is that everyone just expects a bright future and then nobody bothers to die for it, we keep watching television, the wealth keeps snowballing, and our cages become more and more sophisticated.

22 hours later 2013423 Anonymous
>>2013260 >THings are getting better for the rest of the world because the industrial revolution and modern standards of living are catching up with the rest of the world GDP per capita is going up in the first world as well, in the USA, at about 4% per year. >The reason it's happening so slowly and hasnt' happened sooner is because the world's oligarchs don't want those bumfuck-peasants to own their own capital, because they SHOULDN'T be people participating in an economy, they should be human capital put to work for the kings. That's what they want for everyone It's happening largely because of growing third world populations, cheaper technology, and because despite what a lot of people want to believe, no one actually controls enough or the world to be able to hobble everyone. In a way, it's happening because those oligarchs are investing in those economies, to their own detriment. Rich men these days tend to become rich because they're willing to do anything to get ahead. Even sell out their own nations and legacies. What happens when these countries start demanding good wages and living conditions? 'They' actually have less foresight then you do; that's why their actions look so stupid and destructive. >Money is snowballing, representative political systems have been compromised, and the labor market is being systematically repressed so that they have an able and eager volunteer military to take other peoples' stuff Sounds like any large, failing empire. Like a lot of people are getting ready to eject, because they don't foresee the game they're playing lasting much longer. The fall of the Roman empire led to decentralization, not concentration of power. It led to feudalism. The black death, which cased a massive loss of manpower and incentivized mechanization, is being repeated with AIDS and declining birthrates.

22 hours later 2013429 Anonymous
>>2013423 We're going to see the fall of the nation state, the privatization of all power and land, and a rise in the cost and value of labor. The difference this time will be that everyone is a lord. >And the world's oligarchs are getting very good at preventing these things On the contrary; behind every revolution is a wallet overflowing with cash, hungry for more money. The rich are likely to be the main force that destroys the old order, in a desperate attempt to monopolize the new one. Like the feudal lords of yore, they're likely to be brushed aside as they attempt to retain inferior social, political, and economic structures. A few of 'them' might wind up part of the new elite, but there's a reason you can't hold office in the USA while also holding a noble title; the new elite wanted to make it impossible to play both sides of the fence, and monopolize the new means of power; international trade. >The technology of oppression is advancing too The internet has effectively done to the current elites what the printing press did to the Lords; pluralized authority so much, that no 'party line' can be maintained. Society is atomizing at every level; the ability of one organization to control or keep tabs on it all is diminishing.

22 hours later 2013434 Anonymous
>>2013429 The recent NSA debacle is proof; desperate mining of data by the elite, followed by a swift revealing of the facts to all of humanity. Propaganda as the device that got the likes of Hitler and Stalin into power is a withered husk of it's former self. The fact that we're even having this conversation should be the final proof. The radio and newspaper were one voice sent to millions; the internet is billions of voices sent to a few dozen in most cases, up to billions. How many people read my posts on 4chan? I probably have more of an audience, despite no name or promotion, then many major TV news shows. And my ideas are never taken at face value; I have to defend them, and only if I can can I gain any 'supporters' who'll then go off on their own without any capacity on my part to herd or corral them. This is where the world is going, not 1984. A tyranny of the masses, against the masses. People voting for your execution with their feet. >The natural endpoint of capitalism is one where the produces and consumers are the same people Precisely; everyone will produce and consume on their own, outside of any larger economy. Feudalism.

24 hours later 2013997 Anonymous
>>2013423 >Rome It's a very different landscape today. Yea, American is behaving precisely like a sputtering empire, but it isn't some monolithic centralized government, it's a semi-volatile populist political system, a more volatile open economy of ownership, and a super-powerful cryptocracy of entrenched elites with the knowledge and power to subvert both. They're reaping the rewards of foreign conquest but they aren't the ones who will ever have to pay the prices, America loses face politically, America goes into debt to China, America bears the brunt of foreign aggression and extremist backlash. The federal government is going to collapse, and they're going to come out stronger than ever, because when a government collapses everything goes up for sale on the cheap. We live in an era where you can own a country without having to run it. Profit is disconnected from risk. If the country gets into trouble, some two-bit dictator or powerless elected official takes the flack, but if that country ever makes a cent that money is yours because you own every field, tree, machine and person who lives there. We see it happen in South and Central America and don't give a shit; we see it taking shape in North America and think that could never happen to us because we don't recognize it for what it is.

24 hours later 2014048 Anonymous
>>2013434 I don't think most people give a shit about the NSA. No one is fighting back against it, either via the established channels of change (tell me when you see a reliable anti-CIA candidate and I will throw my life savings behind him) or by rioting in the street. It's not the first time our intelligence agencies or military have done something blatantly evil and anti-American, it's not the first time a few people have gotten angry about it and then forgotten about it, it's just business as usually. That's part of the trick. People in the u.s. know they enjoy a pretty high standard of living still (even though it's declining for most of them, in spite of the increased wealth per capita, which you pointed out earlier). They have just enough that they're afraid of upheaval, they're complacent, they have plenty of state-approved choices for who to blame (each other in most cases), and things are showing no signs of changing. That's how they're going to weather out the wild west of the internet without losing face. They've weaponized every media that has come before and they'll gain control of this one too, it's just a matter of ownership. They don't own it yet, they haven't created a framework of ownership by which they COULD own it, but they will. Or they will try their damndest and you and I will find a way to stop them, that's possible too, but that's what I'm hoping for, not what I"m counting on.

24 hours later 2014066 Anonymous
>>2013434 >Propaganda of HItler and Stalin Have you paid no attention to the advancing art of propaganda? Are you aware of how many Americans blame their problems on poor people? And the other half blame their problems on that first half. People buy into the horse race. Propaganda today means getting people to vote for either a Democrat or a Republican (both corporate parties), and then using that to make them think they've consented to everything that follows. It works. It's working.

24 hours later 2014070 Anonymous
>>2013434 >How many people read my posts on 4chan? I probably have more of an audience, despite no name or promotion, then many major TV news shows. And my ideas are never taken at face value; I have to defend them, and only if I can can I gain any 'supporters' who'll then go off on their own without any capacity on my part to herd or corral them. deluded as fuck nobody is converting to your side just because you shitpost harder than everyone else being a le 4chan internet debater doesn't win you brownie points, sorry to burst your autism bubble.

24 hours later 2014098 Anonymous
I become a 3 year old catgirl. I get adopted by single man living alone. He takes care of me and raises me.

24 hours later 2014116 Anonymous
>>2014070 The French revolution started in coffee shops and on sofas. Public opinion is always a battleground, and public opinion matters. The internet is a really big deal in this sense. When I bash people for believing in free market horseshit or for hating gays or for policing gender or whatever the opinion of the hour is, I'm not changing the world by myself, but I AM one neuron firing in the great collective brain, and that brain is unfathomably larger and smarter today than it has ever been before. When the industrial revolution took of people didn't know what the fuck was happening, some people got godawfully rich for some reason yet most of them were losing their jobs somehow, they went to the city because they saw all the wealth and prosperity there and then they couldn't find work and when they did find work they were workign 12 hour shifts and living in firetrap, railways went up all over the country but they were all different sizes and you had to unload your cargo from one company's train and onto another company's train at every border, the old townie politicians went out of favor and local businesses crashed left and right and a new fat-cat elite started buying off elections and running entire cities or regions, and no one knew why the fuck ANY of this was happening until they pieced it all together decades later. I think that with the internet and cellphones and social media we're on the threshold of something like this, we don't know exactly what it's doing but damned if it isn't doing something.

33 hours later 2016906 Anonymous
>>2012905 gtfo, realist. We just want to fantasize about becoming the little girl.

33 hours later 2016911 Anonymous
I'll be in my fucking 60's by then, what's the point. I don't dislike being born after the 70's, but I am getting old and so's everyone else in my generation. Oh well.

34 hours later 2017008 Anonymous
>>2016906 In a world where genes are Legos I don't think that's entirely infeasible. Maybe you WILL be able to become the little girl. You just need to understand what 'technological singularity" means, it's not a magic wand that makes anime real.

34 hours later 2017011 Anonymous
>>2008344 >When the Technological Singularity occurs in 2045 Joke's on you ... In 2045 I'll turn 73. Close enough to death.

34 hours later 2017032 Anonymous
>>2017011 I'll be almost old enough to retire! Sounds fun. Too bad social security will be sucked dry before I turn 30.

42 hours later 2018024 Anonymous
>NANOMACHINES, SON

43 hours later 2018261 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (shinki^^1385358022507.png 1000x1200 2135kB)
>>2017011 in 2049 i will be 58

43 hours later 2018292 Anonymous (human version gijinka pokemon, absol.jpg 236x383 49kB)
I'll be 54. :c Anti-aging though. I can already look how I want though super strength and speed would be nice.

43 hours later 2018311 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (^^!roboto!@!1329979812781.jpg 1000x1290 943kB)
>>2018292 why you think i am going to Japan?

43 hours later 2018339 Anonymous
>>2018311 Agreed. 😊 On a side note that is related to your pic, that is what I would do when my body parts fail me. Still working on the design but progress is good.

43 hours later 2018353 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (^^!ROBOTO!.jpg 1024x1449 489kB)
>>2018339 having a bunch of retro computing parts taught me maintenance and carefulness wwww i want to be a gynoid who can bear kids and live like 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999 years wwww

43 hours later 2018364 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (====1375864185411.jpg 1280x665 416kB)
>>2018339 computers saved my life..... more than once wwww

44 hours later 2018436 Anonymous
>>2018353 So badly want. :P

44 hours later 2018465 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (future and retro~!.jpg 600x338 72kB)
>>2018436 you want to be the same? I think this is called trans-humanism...

44 hours later 2018563 Anonymous
30 years is a long time...I can only hope it gets here sooner. I want all my trans friends and everyone who is unhappy with their body to at least love how they are on the outside. But a lot can happen in 30 years.

44 hours later 2018596 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (ミク1325856944019.jpg 2000x1200 3067kB)
>>2018563 yeah wwww

44 hours later 2018623 Anonymous
>>2018596 I just hope machines don't go all terminator on us once they achieve super-awareness

44 hours later 2018624 Anonymous
>>2018465 Same as what? I very much love my body, especially how flexible it is, but it will eventually fail me and I have no trouble with becoming a cyborg. Due to genetics, Ehlers Danlos Syndrome type III, I'll have issues when I get older. I already have constant joint pain so it's not so much as transhumanism as is wanting to be able to walk instead of clinging to useless body parts.

45 hours later 2018645 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (robotto^^1362958573895.png 900x900 1190kB)
>>2018623 i will make sure of that.... they will pity 100% biological humans and actually care for them >>2018624 I want to help.....

45 hours later 2018662 Anonymous
>>2018645 I always love the idea of futuristic AIs being caring and non-violent, only wanting what is best for humans. They see a people who have endured centuries of hardships and only wish to help us and ease our pains, doing everything in their power to make the life of these poor confused creatures easier.

45 hours later 2018672 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】 (nano591-animal_ears-apron-black_eyes-black_hair-cat_ears-highres-kemonomimi_mode-long_hair-nichijou-open_mouth-shinonome_nano-tagme-tail-winding_key.jpg 1920x1080 200kB)
>>2018662 yep that's me! I want the machines to have that type of morals!

45 hours later 2018684 【エリカ(④ ＾ヮ＾)】
>>2018662 the only violent ones would not be 100% originally machine

45 hours later 2018713 Anonymous
>>201864 I'm touched. :) I figured I've got until I'm 30 or so before it gets horrible so that gives me 8 or so years to get it figured out.

48 hours later 2019876 Anonymous
>>2013997 >but it isn't some monolithic centralized government It's more centralized then Rome was, largely due to improved communications methods. >a more volatile open economy of ownership Rome fell due to the centralized Roman state selling farms and mines to the Equites; the people that would go on to form the private-property owning Knight caste of Europe, and empower the feudal lords with brute force. The USA, and the entire 'free world' was built by the government during WWI and WWII, and then sold off to private individuals afterwards. This precisely mirrors Rome. We're right at the cusp where the Empire began to fall. >super-powerful cryptocracy of entrenched elites with the knowledge and power to subvert both The rise of nationalism was the rise of the army of common men with guns; he who could amass the best-trained men and most, highest-quality guns won. The old feudal order was swept aside, and none of their knowledge or power could push back the tide. The people demanded more rights and a higher standard of living, and they got it; fundamentally, they demanded a larger slice of the pie, and more control of how it got cooked and served, and the elite of the time were forced to comply. All our rights hinge on the fact that if the board were to get shaken, the elites wouldn't get what they want; absolute control and security. >The federal government is going to collapse, and they're going to come out stronger than ever, because when a government collapses everything goes up for sale on the cheap Including the implements of power.

49 hours later 2019963 Anonymous
>>2014066 >Have you paid no attention to the advancing art of propaganda? I see political and social opinions diverging in every direction, without any one person having the capacity to control it. When I was a kid, we were expecting a Star Trek liberal utopia. When I became a teenager, we were all expecting a Christian fundamentalism. Now, I look at the media, and I see both ideals held up side by side, without either dominating. Both sides are scared that the other will win; pluralization, atomization. >Propaganda today means getting people to vote for either a Democrat or a Republican (both corporate parties), and then using that to make them think they've consented to everything that follows Only about 50% of the population votes in the USA. The rest are probably like me, and in on the game. >It works. It's working That's just your pessimism, and your perception that the external world outside of your monkey sphere isn't turning into what you want it to turn into. I used to feel the same way, then I realized I didn't really care what the rest of the human race thinks or how it acts. >>2014070 >nobody is converting to your side just because you shitpost harder than everyone else My entire argument is largely that people are descending into worlds of their own, and disregarding everyone else's opinions; atomization. You're projecting your own concerns over converting people to your side onto me. You also seem to be expressing your feelings of being intellectually threatened by my long-winded, content-dense posts, based upon your framing of the posts of others as 'shitposting.' >being a le 4chan internet debater doesn't win you brownie points, sorry to burst your autism bubble I don't care about your brownie points. You're projecting so hard, we should attach something to you to generate energy.

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