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2013-07-26 05:30 1010030 Anonymous (image.jpg 772x581 75kB)
Hello /lgbt/. I'm Here to talk about boobs, specifically the boobs of Andrej Pejic. There's quite a bit of controversy on whether or not he takes hormones. I'd like to know what you all think. If he did take hormones, how does he have little/no breast development? I noticed his nipples are on the large/pointy side, which is common in trans women. What's your opinion on his boobs?

14 min later 1010130 Anonymous (Who-the-hell-cares-90519235208[1].jpg 400x300 31kB)
>>1010030 why would anyone give a single shit about his breasts?

28 min later 1010240 Anonymous
>>1010130 BECAUSE THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS SUCH

38 min later 1010309 Anonymous
>>1010130 because tits or gtfo OP probably posted tits, you posted dumb family guy shit

39 min later 1010315 Anonymous
I'd have to say that he doesn't take hormones, his frame and legs are still masculine and he has no hips. I think he just genetically has a very feminine face.

59 min later 1010429 Anonymous
>>1010315 The whole reason I started this was to see if hormones make you more androgynous. What most people have told me is that it's purely genetics and only cosmetic surgery/borderline anorexia make people as androgynous as andrej. I actually have a feminine body myself, but masculine facial features. Today I was actually looking at plastic surgeons in Korea actually

1 hours later 1010461 Anonymous
>>1010429 Well you should have said that then. Yes hormones will make you more feminine, including the face.

1 hours later 1010519 Anonymous
my pecs look pretty much just like that, I don't take hormones, I'm just skinny so my pecs kind of stick out a bit just like his do in that pic.

1 hours later 1010526 Anonymous
>>1010461 But the issue I have in my way is that I would love to get onto hormones, but I wouldn't want any visible breast growth

1 hours later 1010534 Anonymous
>>1010030 I remember one time he said he doesn't need to shave, so he probably has a natural hormone imbalance and that's what makes his chest look a little tit-like.

1 hours later 1010540 kodi
I've more tits than him and I've never taken any skittles. The body does produce it's own hormones you know, and for some people it's a bit fucked up. It's very possible he munches them though.

1 hours later 1010541 Anonymous
>>1010526 well, you can't pick and choose what effects you get. Why don't you want breast growth?

2 hours later 1011033 Anonymous
gyno

2 hours later 1011058 Anonymous
>>1011033 his nips are tiny and not very puffy, it's not gyno. You can clearly see his ribs, the fact that he's so skinny exaggerates his pecs, this isn't rocket science.

2 hours later 1011081 Anonymous
>>1011058 you can clearly see the hard breast tissue under his nipples, he has gyno

2 hours later 1011089 Anonymous
>>1011081 All males have breast tissue, gyno nearly always has puffy nips to go along with it.

2 hours later 1011121 Anonymous
>>1011089 no gyno is specifically the development of breast tissue under the nipple. if he was fatter he would also have puffier nipples from fat accumulation. puffy nipples without hard tissue is not gyno. don't argue with me, i come from /fit/ and therefore know everything there is to know about gyno.

2 hours later 1011188 Anonymous
>>1011121 I have the exact same kind of pectorals as him, it's cause I'm skinny, not cause I have gyno. You were probably skinnyfat or just plain fat so you probably have no experience in just being plain old skinny. My weight fluctuates a lot though and when I gain weight I lose the appearance of my pecs, but as I lose weight they begin to appear just like andrej's. It's cause you can't eliminate the basic glands underneath the nips, everyone has them males are just smaller, hence why he's skinny as fuck and you can see lumps. You can lose as much weight as you want, the lumps won't go away until you're dead and bacteria devour your decaying corpse.

3 hours later 1011340 Anonymous
> If he did take hormones, how does he have little/no breast development Because breasts are more than just about hormones. Genetics and epigenetics and so forth also play a role. If a woman is flat chested, hormones aren't the only explanation. It could be that she just has a genetic disposition to not having them. The same goes for people taking female hormones. Breasts are actually quite uncommon in nature. We're one of the only species of mammal that has them. Chimpanzees, our closest relatives, don't have breasts at all. Nor do the other primates. It isn't surprising that not all humans turn female hormones into breasts. Breasts don't a woman make.

9 hours later 1012676 Anonymous
>>1010541 Because I'm fine with being male, but I hate being masculine

17 hours later 1015362 Anonymous
>>1012676 There are other things you can do to make yourself less masculine. I would advise anyone against taking hormones if they're fine with being a male, because if you take them for two years, you will no longer be a male.

17 hours later 1015385 Anonymous
>>1015362 Sign me the fuck up.

20 hours later 1016762 Anonymous
>>1015362 What other things can I do to be less masculine?

21 hours later 1016980 Anonymous
>>1016762 Shave all your body hair. If you have money, you can get it lasered off. Without hormones it will grow back eventually though. Get rid of your nasty male eyebrows. Thick eyebrows are major masculine. http://www.tranchan.net/self/tips/r es/90.php Here's a bunch of advice on feminizing exercises. I am not an expert by any means. Someone else who knows more should jump in.

21 hours later 1016987 Anonymous
>>1015362 >if you take them for two years, you will no longer be a male. What do you mean? :O

21 hours later 1017017 Anonymous
>>1016987 You grow a vagoo. Enjoy your sex with men. Or sex with women if you're into that.

21 hours later 1017054 Anonymous (Andrej-Pejic-posando-en-Vogue-Brasil.jpg 625x426 33kB)
He's or should I say she is on hormones most likely considering there was never any sign of gyno in he's earlier photos. You just don't develop gyno all of a sudden for no reason.

21 hours later 1017072 Anonymous
>>1016987 I swear, It's like no one understands what hormones do. Quick biology lesson here. Human cells are not inherently male or female. Whether they perform male or female functions depends entirely on the hormones in the blood. When you remove testosterone and replace it with estrogen, your cells start performing female roles. It takes about two years for your whole body to reconfigure. At the end of those two years, you are biologically female. (Yes, you still have a balls and a penis. Hormones aren't magic. But it's a penis and balls made of female cells, which is why they no longer work very well.)

21 hours later 1017142 Anonymous
>>1017072 >Human cells are not inherently male or female. Omg feminist gb2tumblr.

21 hours later 1017173 Anonymous
>>1017142 I'm sorry, do you have a problem with facts?

21 hours later 1017186 sage
>>1017173 Feminists have a problem with facts. Stupid feminist.

21 hours later 1017192 Anonymous
>>1017072 >cells don't have gender i didn't take bio past tenth grade, REALLY? what about in the DNA? surely the Y chromosome still makes Y-chromosome proteins?

21 hours later 1017208 Anonymous
>>1017192 >Y chromosome proteins lol no. Sex chromosomes don't do anything after birth. The state of education on sex differences is incredibly poor.

21 hours later 1017216 Cathy
It's common knowledge among tgirls that he is transitioning. We network, we talk, people know her and her bf, bitch is a woman. Ur late bye.

21 hours later 1017235 Anonymous
>>1010030 He takes anti-androgens to stay androgynous. They cause minimal breast development, bitch tits basically, kind of like what he has.

21 hours later 1017267 Anonymous
>>1017208 >Sex chromosomes don't do anything after birth. This is precisely why people who obsess over transwomen still having Y chromosomes look like such idiots. They just show their complete ignorance of biology. For an interesting case of what can happen in species where sex chromosomes do matter after birth, take a look at gynandromorphs http://www.livescience.com/14210-gy nandromorphs-dual-sex-disorder-stra nge-birds-butterflies-gallery.html

21 hours later 1017269 Anonymous
>>1017208 what? so then what determines how much of what hormone goes where? do people have the vestigial glands of the other sex, and if so, do they start working after transition? what about many other species of mammal, where gender differentiation is so big? is the big difference that develops in childhood all decided by what initial hormone production each individual was given at birth?

22 hours later 1017371 Anonymous
>>1017269 Everything depends on whether you have testicles or ovaries. Everything. The Y chromosome's job is basically to turn the ovotestes into testicles. The testicles then release male hormones, which turn the proto-genitals into a penis, prostate, scrotum, etc. >do people have the vestigial glands of the other sex, and if so, do they start working after transition? aside from genitals, there really aren't any different glands. Breast tissue in males is the same as pre-puberty breast tissue in girls. Hormone therapy basically starts female puberty, leading to normal breast growth. Genitals won't do a complete 180 when hormone levels are changed post-birth, but they will change. In MtFs, testicles will shrink and stop functioning, and the penis may shrink and become impotent. In FtMs, the clitoris will get markedly bigger, and the vagina will dry out a bit. >what about many other species of mammal, where gender differentiation is so big? is the big difference that develops in childhood all decided by what initial hormone production each individual was given at birth? in mammals, all sexual differentiation after birth, and most before birth is determined by hormones. >so then what determines how much of what hormone goes where? I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Hormones; being in the blood, go all over the body. Cells do "know" where they are in the body, which determines what they do, but whether what they're doing is male or female is determined by the hormones they get from the blood.

22 hours later 1017381 Anonymous
>>1017267 Back to Tumblr with you.

22 hours later 1017407 Anonymous
>>1017381 >states facts >gets told to go to the land of feels > reals 1/10 made me respond

22 hours later 1017502 WHOA
>>1017371 i'm gonna check you aren't fucking around with me, then go curl up in a corner for a while what the hell, body

22 hours later 1017514 Anonymous (image.jpg 600x405 64kB)
>>1017371

22 hours later 1017564 Anonymous (ku-xlarge.jpg 640x360 95kB)
>>1017502 Transsexuality is the real redpill

22 hours later 1017700 Anonymous
He's so hot hnnng But yeah I totally think he does. Some people just don't grow tits as easily as others. I've been on hormones for the past 5 years and my titties are virtually the same as his except with bigger nips.

23 hours later 1018056 Anonymous
>>1017700 Do other women in your family have small chests? Or are you just unlucky with the hormone growth?

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