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2013-02-22 09:25 8669010 Anonymous (pm2.5map-03.png 625x440 29kB)
Air pollution is a serious problem in China. Because a value between 0 and 500 is used for the air pollution index, with values of 300 or more considered 'serious,' this was the worst value recorded until now. This matter needs an immediate solution. How shall they deal with this problem?

1 min later 8669023 Anonymous
Mass suicide

4 min later 8669043 Anonymous (1361156389947.jpg 471x483 122kB)
>>8669023 You are my greatest ally

19 min later 8669217 Anonymous
Do not disturb the neighbors.

22 min later 8669259 Anonymous
They need to hurry up and pick a fight so we can backstab them and throw in a few nukes.

24 min later 8669284 Anonymous
>>8669259 Japan need to take the lead. Now go sink some ships near that little island you claim yours.

26 min later 8669307 Anonymous
People don't realize how badly China assfucked itself environmentally and how much that is going to negatively affect the economy.

29 min later 8669337 Anonymous
China pls stop polluting over rivers

34 min later 8669395 Anonymous
>>8669307 >>8669337 >>8669010 In XIX and XX centuries europe was the same. It's rapid industrialisation, nothing unnatural.

34 min later 8669396 Anonymous
reduce manufacturing activity outsource jobs to Vietnam and Bangladesh

36 min later 8669422 Anonymous (absolute horror.gif 225x118 417kB)
>>8669395 >In XIX and XX centuries europe was the same Europe and USA never had the population of China. In 1850 Europe had ~200m people. In 1900 North America had ~105m people. The sound of 1.3 billion people consuming coal is a frightening sound.

36 min later 8669431 Anonymous
>>8669307 Didn't stop England

41 min later 8669473 Anonymous
>>8669431 because 1 billion chinks compared to a few million = the same environmental damage

46 min later 8669531 Anonymous
>>8669010 don't buy things "made in china" easy as that.

49 min later 8669560 Anonymous
>>8669395 >>8669431 This is the 21st century. They could have easily mitigated the worst of it but chose not to. The industrial revolution didn't proactively deal with it because we knew nothing about it. And it's much more pervasive in China than it ever was in the nations that industrialized a long time ago.

49 min later 8669567 Anonymous
Japan you must take action China is fart on your nation, the only reason they make so much pollution is because they know it'll blow over to you

51 min later 8669583 Anonymous
>>8669567 You won't go in alone Japan.

52 min later 8669596 Anonymous
>>8669431 Wasnt it Henry Ford that added lead to car fuel? Or some other dumfuckistani?

54 min later 8669623 Anonymous
>>8669395 >>8669307 Even in the early 1900s there were steps being taken to reduce industrial pollution (in the earliest days, it was simply a matter of maximizing profits - it turns out, dumping gasoline in rivers as a "waste product" wasn't particularly the most profitable idea). China refuses to try and even attempt any environmental efforts because it has the deluded belief that environmental pressure is just "those evil Westerners trying to keep us poorfag!"

58 min later 8669679 Anonymous
>>8669623 Not to mention China's polluting the hell out of their water table. Soon there will be as much water in China as there is water in Nevada or Australia.

1 hours later 8669706 Anonymous
>>8669623 That's not true. Go look at 30% of all environmental science papers getting published they're all Chinese! They're trying their asses off actually! They problem is the waste is being produced in such massive volumes!

1 hours later 8669733 Anonymous
>>8669623 >those evil Westerners trying to keep us poorfag! They would be absolutely right. Pollution is inevitable at this stage and anyone who thinks that punitive measures on corporations that dump shit would do better than gradual implementation of appropriate technologies on money earned from total exploitiation of environment today should study history.

1 hours later 8669742 Anonymous
>>8669706 Writing papers doesn't help actually do anything. They do fuckall to prevent pollution and cleanup what's already there... which is retarded seeing as how to push through mega projects super fast.

1 hours later 8669754 Anonymous
>>8669733 > 21st century > hazardous levels of pollution are inevitable Just no. There will be pollution no doubt, but there is literally zero reason why it should be a major hazard to public health in China.

1 hours later 8669775 flipbro
>>8669754 >zero reason why it should be a major hazard to public health in China. Wat? Try breathing smog for years and lets check your lungs

1 hours later 8669799 Anonymous
>>8669775 > Zero reason why they should have allowed pollution levels to become a major public health hazard I thought the context made it clear, guess not.

1 hours later 8669808 flipbro
>>8669799 oh read that wrong. sorry.

1 hours later 8669839 Anonymous
living in China is more terrible than death. most constructed occupation in China is peasant and they are base in local infrastructure. solid and water got polluted, people got arsenic poison or whatsoever through crops, water and air. I have no idea how many people get this deal.

1 hours later 8669853 Anonymous
>>8669754 You're either super insecure and creating excuses or can't read. They are industrializing and are no different from any other country that did so in the past. You can also get a special anti-chinese tinfoil in our shop 20% off, hurry.

1 hours later 8669868 flipbro
>>8669839 They cant get out and are dirt poor. Also they dont know much about of the outside world or of the outside world. But remote villages away from the pollution has simple ok lives.

1 hours later 8669906 Anonymous
>>8669853 Do you not understand that we live in a time with greater understanding and technology than we did in the 1800s? So in 150 years when some African country industrializes are they going to spew coal soot everywhere and make all their water toxic?

1 hours later 8669917 Anonymous (天安门广场人.jpg 1000x679 195kB)
>>8669839 >I have no idea how many people get this deal. The Chinese people can't protest against the Communist Party to fix the pollution. The last time they protested for something on a large scale, they failed.

1 hours later 8669931 Anonymous
>>8669023 this. /thread

1 hours later 8669947 flipbro
>>8669917 >Nobody shows what happens after that pic is taken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxD d82Myqis

1 hours later 8669958 Anonymous
>>8669947 Didn't he get disappeared later though?

1 hours later 8669973 flipbro
>>8669958 some people take him away

1 hours later 8669984 Anonymous
>>8669973 That's pretty ambiguous.

1 hours later 8669997 flipbro
>>8669984 to this day no one knows the guy.

1 hours later 8669998 Anonymous
>>8669906 >with greater understanding and technology than we did in the 1800s? Everything costs money, why do you think companies hate the green faggots? If they have spare money they will invest them into improving working conditions and reducing pollution, but if they don't making them do this extra spending will bankrupt their factories and no one will gain anything from it. I can't believe I have to explain this to someone from US, you're the one enjoying cheap goods manufactured in China partly because local sophisticated industries can't compete with them.

1 hours later 8670009 Anonymous
>>8669998 I can't believe you think horribly toxic air and water is acceptable in an industrialized country in the 21st century. The damage they are doing now is costing them more than taking steps to reduce it in the process.

1 hours later 8670019 Anonymous
>>8669947 Doesn't matter if he died. ~2000 people still died.

1 hours later 8670049 Anonymous
>>8670009 >in an industrialized country in the 21st century India, Africa and middle-east are on their way there. You haven't even seen what pollution is yet. And they are trying to reduce it, but money doesn't grow on trees.

1 hours later 8670059 Anonymous
>>8670049 > You haven't even seen what pollution is yet In China, yes we have. And they have more than enough money to deal with it to some degree, they just choose not to.

1 hours later 8670071 Anonymous
This is quite true. Either way Japan is fucked, it has China and Russia as neighbours, two of the world's biggest polluting nations. It can't discuss these issues on friendly terms due to territorial disputes with both countries and as an ally of the US, Russia and China just view it as impotent nuisance anyway. If there ever was a major conflict between America and China, Japan would be bombed to nothing, freeing the Chinese Navy, allowing it access into the Pacific.

1 hours later 8670084 Anonymous
>>8670059 >And they have more than enough money You can't into economy. The state budget may have money from taxpayers and from trade surplus but not factory owners.

1 hours later 8670103 Anonymous
>>8670084 But they can fund tons of high speed rail and housing construction and airports and highways but they can't do much of anything to clean up... makes perfect sense.

1 hours later 8670213 Anonymous
Cleaner coal plants, regulations on other emissions, point to point ultra light rail. The former two will eat into growth, and the latter would reduce consumer market and stunt their prospects for a popular export car brand. It could be done, I guess, but I don't think they give a shit. Status quo is god. Why would a government not accountable to anyone have to worry about such things? Not even the rest of the world cared - they put the olympics in the most polluted city in the world without batting an eye.

2 hours later 8670441 Anonymous
The air pollution of India as well as China is serious.

2 hours later 8670471 Anonymous
Don't worrry. now. they are building nuclear plants for green policy.

2 hours later 8670474 Anonymous
>>8670471 That's terrifying given their terribly safety standards and quality control for everything they make.

2 hours later 8670522 Anonymous
I wonder how long until they start trying to buy parts of Siberia to colonise to get away from r pollution Thank you based global warming for making my continent even more unliveable so they don't try and come here

4 hours later 8671950 Anonymous (無題.png 550x366 153kB)
Chinese people conquer contamination by taichi.

6 hours later 8674475 Anonymous
I wonder why South Korea doesn't voice a complaint to China at all. They've suffered damage from this like us though.

7 hours later 8674656 Anonymous
>>8669431 >implying we had the same level of scientific know-how and environmental consequence back then

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