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2013-02-21 11:13 8650131 Anonymous (deathpenalty.jpg 1280x960 179kB)
If your country still has death penalty then it's pretty much a non-country.

2 min later 8650162 Irishfag
I'd bring back the death penalty if I could. The thing about opinions is that every asshole has one. Japan hanged 3 prisoners last night too.

2 min later 8650166 Anonymous (rbadinter.jpg 350x511 35kB)
Americans may not apply.

3 min later 8650167 Anonymous
>>8650131 death penalty is a immune system of the society. if you don't have it. you have AIDS.

3 min later 8650168 Anonymous
We executed three today! Hoorey!

3 min later 8650170 Anonymous
>>8650131 I feel sick when I realize what kind of "jail" the criminals get sent to. http://www.readnrock.com/?p=22

3 min later 8650177 Anonymous
>>8650131 only barbaric countries use it

4 min later 8650180 Anonymous
We don't have a death penalty anymore, but there is something to ponder about : in this day and age of debt crisis, in which we have to make every money saving we can, can we really afford prisons ? Can we afford long term prison sentences ? In France we can't, the most one will get is 20 years, and few people get that. Also, most people who are supposed to do short sentences never will, because prisons are full. Prisonners don't do anything but sit in their ass, consumming water, food, electricity. They cost a fortune. Here is where death penalty and forced labor come in : death penalty for major offenses, forced labor for everything else. Prisonners will pay for their own expenses and will actually be useful for society.

4 min later 8650181 Anonymous
Murder = Death Rape = Death Drugs = Death Possession of illegal firearms = Death Sodomy = Death Good feel.

4 min later 8650184 Anonymous
>>8650131 If your country abolished death penalty then it's pretty much a shit-country I'm looking at you India

4 min later 8650186 Anonymous (Josef-Fritzl101.jpg 280x390 22kB)
Oh Austria, why do you think death penalty is bad?

4 min later 8650188 Anonymous
>>8650168 japan pls

4 min later 8650195 Anonymous
>>8650162 >hanged

4 min later 8650196 Anonymous
>>8650131 HOW CAN YOU MAINTAIN ORDNUNG IF THERE IS NO DEATH PENALTY?

5 min later 8650199 Irishfag
>>8650170 brb going to Osterreich to commit a crime

6 min later 8650211 Anonymous
If your country don't have death penalty in your country then it's pretty much a liberal homo faggot country.

7 min later 8650226 Irishfag
>>8650195 Hanged for death by noose, hung for hanging meet off a hook. > Denmark trying to be smart with a native English speaker

7 min later 8650231 Anonymous
If your country still has death penalty then it's pretty much a shitty country. Looking at you U.S.A

7 min later 8650234 Anonymous
>life in prison is better than the death penalty Nope. I think that there should be a cap on the amount of time people can stay behind bars. If they keep messing up or if they do something truly horrendous, execute em. Being stuck in prison for the rest of your life is the worst form of punishment that exists.

8 min later 8650240 Anonymous
One of the critical arguments against the death penalty seems to be some visceral insecurity that 'your life is in the fate of government' and people don't like the idea of power of death over you. How many people would be for the death penalty then if it was only issued for the most heinous crimes and could 100% be for a proven conviction? e.g. for someone (sober) who drove a car through a queue of children at a nursery and was caught at the scene of a crime laughing manically? Or a 'Jack the Ripper' type figure who was caught in the act of dismembering a little girl and had done this several times prior without being caught? Another argument is expense but consider if in terms of expense the death penalty becomes a single bullet through the back of the neck and their body get's chucked into a pit with flowers planted over. Were these two conditions satisfied would you be for or against it? Ultimately, the purpose of the death penalty isn't to 'punish' per se but an ultimate judgement that we simply cannot allow you to live because the danger to society at large is far too great.

8 min later 8650243 Anonymous
>>8650240 tl;dr

9 min later 8650248 Anonymous
>>8650211 What's the use of a death penalty when all the criminals just bribe your police? Step up BN.

9 min later 8650249 Anonymous
>>8650231 we have solitary confinement for the rest of the prisoner's life

9 min later 8650254 Irishfag
>>8650240 Didn't read.

9 min later 8650256 Anonymous
>>8650231 >filler

9 min later 8650259 Anonymous
>>8650234 That's only if you live in places with shit-tier prisons. >>8650226 Shit

9 min later 8650262 Anonymous
>>8650248 9/10 post would pour you a beer

10 min later 8650272 Anonymous
>>8650240 I'd still be against it, although I'm pretty sure more people would agree with it.

10 min later 8650276 iranus
Iran has death penalty exclusively for rapists and criminals, contrary to popular propaganda.

10 min later 8650278 Anonymous
>>8650131 >not wanting the man who rapes your wife, daughter, or mother dead Keep pleb son

10 min later 8650280 Anonymous
>>8650170 Prison isn't solely about punishment anymore, it's about reintegrating into society. And you're a jerk.

12 min later 8650296 Irishfag (Bane_TDKR3[1].jpg 470x706 50kB)
>>8650280 They had their entire lives beforehand to integrate and refused to. Lock em up in a dark and deep cavern and let them fight each other to the death in their own scum society. Eventually Bane will arise out of the darkness. God wills it.

13 min later 8650302 Anonymous
>>8650278 I don't think the death penalty should be for revenge but for whether a person can be deemed to safe to live in society.

13 min later 8650304 Anonymous
>>8650240 >8650240 >Replies I'm in agreement with your proposition. Also, I think it's kind of strange that I often read opinions from Europeans about the death penalty that reference religious issues with it. Shouldn't it be going the opposite way? Without religious reservations, humans are free to decide who we deem too dangerous for society.

14 min later 8650318 Anonymous
>>8650211 >liberal homo faggot country RF can into Yurop nau!

15 min later 8650326 Anonymous
>>8650296 society can be hard bro. not everyone is born into a good home. Sometimes we take things for granted too much

15 min later 8650327 Anonymous
>>8650280 >reintegrating into society And then they become a repeat offender because to them prison is just a 2nd home with no repercussions.

18 min later 8650365 Anonymous
The death penalty is a lot more expensive than even life-imprisonment and doesn't deter crime one iota >actually supporting it >2013

18 min later 8650367 Anonymous
>>8650278 Humans should not seek revenge, it is a mindset that has only caused trouble. Look at history, so many conflicts, death and suffering would have been avoided, we are beasts if we lower ourselves to the level of the criminal.

19 min later 8650391 Irishfag
>>8650326 Someone has to be at the bottom, welcome to societal Darwinism. Life isn't always rosey and no liberal attitude will ever change that. We who are on top need to maintain being on top and will do so by any means necessary. If that means getting the State to lock the lower class up in dark pits that's aok with me as long as it doesn't impact my way of life.

20 min later 8650397 Anonymous (1353884374639.jpg 710x847 273kB)
>>8650167 >death penalty is a immune system of the society. >if you don't have it. >you have AIDS.

20 min later 8650399 Irishfag
>>8650367 Ain't you the sweet little idealist. Jealousy is one of the fundamentals of human behaviour.

22 min later 8650426 Irishfag
>>8650365 It's not meant to deter crime, it's meant to rid society of those who have committed a crime and are likely to do it again. The expense of the death penalty is only as expensive as the State makes it. You think CCCP spent much money on execution trials?

23 min later 8650435 Anonymous (hughesprestoni[1].jpg 840x1157 176kB)
death penalty is best penalty

24 min later 8650450 Anonymous
>>8650426 It's expensive because someone got this crazy idea that we should be careful not to execute the innocent. Balderdash I say, fucking libtard queers with their "due process" garbage

24 min later 8650453 Anonymous
>>8650391 Shut the fuck up wow

24 min later 8650456 Anonymous
>>8650367 Stupid taxpayer girl- "My mother said violence never solves anything." Full citizen and veteran Mr. Dubois – “ I'm sure the city fathers of Carthage would be glad to know that. Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."

25 min later 8650461 Anonymous
Death penalty is ok. But I prefer eternal force labor.

25 min later 8650463 Anonymous
>>8650131 We need it back

25 min later 8650464 Anonymous
>>8650365 Look at Singapore. Low crime.

26 min later 8650469 Anonymous
>>8650391 "objectivism is a philosophy that advocates a completely selfish focus on the individual and lack of any emotional concern for others...if this sounds familiar to anyone it should, we call it adolescence, and for most people it's simply a stage."

27 min later 8650487 Anonymous
>>8650327 In practice they're less likely to re offend than their counterparts in less luxurious prisons.

27 min later 8650497 Anonymous
>>8650464 Look at Afghanistan, that sure is some low crime

28 min later 8650506 Anonymous
>>8650487 Don't let reality make its way in to this, we need more punishment, damn the consequences

28 min later 8650510 Anonymous
>>8650399 Better an idealist than wanting to have blood on your hands (That is meant both literally and figuratively). Jealousy is not natural, it develop because it is seen as that and it is something humanity should not willing to tolerate.

28 min later 8650516 Anonymous
>>8650365 [citation needed] Please tell me how getting electrocuted costs more then paying for housing and food for a person for 30-50 years

30 min later 8650532 Anonymous
>>8650461 As do i. I think re-education through labour is one thing the Chinese definitely got correct.

31 min later 8650539 Anonymous
>>8650497 >Comparing Sinagapore to shitty mudslim infested afghanistan. How about you put a shotgun in your ass and pull the trigger.

31 min later 8650544 Irishfag
>>8650453 Great response 10/10 "If you are not a liberal by the time you are 20, you don't have a heart. If you are not a conservative by the time you are 50, you don't have a brain" - W. Churchill (or something along those lines) >>8650497 Warzone for ~50 years = different conception of the value of life >>8650469 Oh you. I crossed that bridge a long time ago. >>8650510 How can you say that? Jealousy implies possessiveness which has been central to human nature since the formation of tribes. You can argue that jealousy = greed or whatever, but it is still a basics of a human. A baby gets jealous when it sees another kid with a better toy for Christ sake.

33 min later 8650556 Anonymous
>>8650497 You cannot compare a ragtag bunch of sand niggers with a proper government.

33 min later 8650563 Anonymous
>>8650456 You are lost in your bloodlust, i have no time to talk to you anymore.

35 min later 8650579 Anonymous
What if it's only certain states have the death penalty? The U.S. is basically fifty republics sort of joined together by a Constitution.

35 min later 8650584 Irishfag
>>8650563 Them mushrooms have meddled your brain, hippie.

35 min later 8650589 Anonymous
>>8650579 You have a federal death penalty as well.

36 min later 8650599 Anonymous
>>8650544 Yes, baby have that instinct because they don't know better. Adults have to know better.

37 min later 8650613 Irishfag
>>8650599 Hence it is a fundamental of human nature. No matter how hard you suppress it, it is in your instinct to desire it. You do know what fundamental means, don't you?

38 min later 8650618 Anonymous
>>8650463 but it shouldn't be something like lethal injection it should be something pretty barbaric, like being beaten to death, burnt at the stake, scaphism, crucifixion or being tied to two horse and have them run off in separate directions.

38 min later 8650619 Anonymous
>>8650556 You get to cherry-pick, I get to cherry-pick. Good thing there's an entire academic field dedicated to researching this stuff, so we can use a more sophisticated method. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/fil es/DeterrenceStudy2009.pdf It just doesn't deter crime at all

42 min later 8650679 Anonymous
>>8650510 >Jealousy is not natural Yes it is.

42 min later 8650686 Anonymous (kötél.jpg 300x228 9kB)
>>8650280 The young and liberal is strong in this one. Death penalty is not that bad option. Some traitors can buy themselves out from every shit. Death penalty or full wealth confiscation would be the only retentiveness. The only downside is depending on the judges. I'm sure more people would be executed by false political reasons than by real and measurable crimes. Child molesters and (gang)rapers should be executed with expedited procedure.

55 min later 8650833 Anonymous
we haven't death penality, however we like torture prisoners http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides /getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+WQ+E- 2012-008766+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN

55 min later 8650840 Anonymous
>>8650679 >>8650613 I do know what fundamental means, i may be not too smart but i am not that dumb. Fine! It is "natural" but it is a bad thing. To deny that it's not good is to blind oneself to what troubles it has caused throughout humanity's history, in fact look at the world of today and try to say it jealousy is good.

56 min later 8650857 Anonymous
>>8650840 >being this retarded Are you one of those hipsters who wants "world peace" and practices Buddhism? lel... let a nigger rape your wife or daughter to a pulp... if you still want him to live, then your morals are really fucked

58 min later 8650879 Anonymous
>>8650584 >Hippie, mushrooms I am no hippie and i don't take drugs. I have developed my beliefs on my own.

59 min later 8650891 Anonymous
retards don't know guilt until taking death penalty

59 min later 8650894 Anonymous (1358453487237.gif 320x240 375kB)
>Shit hole third worlders and inhabitants other dystopias scrambling to feel superior by celebrating state-approved murder How's your Stockholm Syndrome, proles?

1 hours later 8650912 Anonymous
>>8650686 >The only downside is depending on the judges Mór

1 hours later 8650913 Irishfag
>>8650840 Nobody every implied it was good. I just never implied it was bad either. Society is made up by humans and since jealousy is human nature, then society must be jealous and must include retaliatory means. The death penalty is one of the most severe retaliatory means. >>8650879 That was a joke. Smoke some and roll with it.

1 hours later 8650958 Anonymous
>>8650857 >Are you one of those hipsters who wants "world peace" and practices Buddhism? No, i am no hipster and i am a christian. >lel... let a nigger rape your wife or daughter to a pulp... if you still want him to live, then your morals are really fucked I won't dignify such a hateful comment beyond this: Believe what you want to believe, i won't force you to believe what i believe.

1 hours later 8650984 Anonymous
>>8650913 Believe what you want, i won't force you to believe what i believe.

1 hours later 8650999 Anonymous
>>8650958 >I am a christian It finally makes sense. Your twisted morals had to be of christian. >>>/leddit/

1 hours later 8651002 Anonymous
>>8650958 no you won't go on because you don't wanna face the truth.... if some guy anal raped your dying mother on her dead bed and beat her to a pulp with a bat, you would want him dead, end of story. stop with the 'holier than thou' mentality, because we both know it's bullshit. being a christian you should understand this concept... in your religion god sends all of us sinners to an eternity of hellfire

1 hours later 8651009 Anonymous
>>8650211 feels good man

1 hours later 8651031 Anonymous
>Serbia not a non-country Yeah right.

1 hours later 8651041 Anonymous (John+Stuart+Mill.jpg 460x276 22kB)
>2013 >not supporting the death penalty J S Mill supported the death penalty. Are you a better moral philsopher than J S Mill?

1 hours later 8651047 Anonymous (Laughing Pines.jpg 701x578 111kB)
>>8650211 >a liberal homo faggot country Holy shit, Malaysia, I needed the laugh this morning.

1 hours later 8651066 Anonymous
We got rid of it only because we became a banana rep led by EU. I can't imagine how much cock we will suck once we enter the Union.

1 hours later 8651070 Anonymous
>>8651041 Mill a shit

1 hours later 8651082 Anonymous
>>8651066 SERBIA IS NO MORE EUROPEAN THAN TURKEY ORTHODOX = ASIATIC SCUM

1 hours later 8651085 Anonymous
>janitor censoring like a dirty commie lel; fucking faggot

1 hours later 8651373 Anonymous
>>8650516 Appeals process is the main issue. Someone on death row is going to appeal at every opportunity they get and lawyers, judges and the likes cost a lot. This is also why they end up spending so long on death row in the first place.

1 hours later 8651422 Irebro
>8651066 >Serbia >Not always a banana republic

1 hours later 8651431 Anonymous
What the fuck is up with all the empty posts? Did 4chan X just break or something?

2 hours later 8652507 Irishfag
>>8651431 Yeap... its working on /b/ tho

3 hours later 8653388 Anonymous
>>8651431 Moot asked /v/ for technical support ( I don't fucking know why ) and broke the board.

4 hours later 8653429 Anonymous
4chan's borked. It becomes empty when you quote someone.

4 hours later 8653542 Anonymous
>tfw death penalty Feels good

4 hours later 8653547 Anonymous
>>8653429 cock

4 hours later 8653570 Ad Gloriam
>>8650211 Hello USA!

4 hours later 8653578 Anonymous
Only beta faggots complain about the death penalty. Austria confirmed for super faggot.

8 hours later 8657284 Anonymous
>>8650181 Such is life in capitalist paradise.

10 hours later 8659393 Anonymous
>>8650240 I agree. If we could remove the issue of uncertainty and expense the death penalty would have no problems in my view.

10 hours later 8659418 Anonymous
All countries should have the death penalty. You can't rehabilitate murders and such and it's a waste of money to keep them in prison for life. Eye for an eye, fgts.

10 hours later 8659459 Anonymous
>>8650240 its a better punishment to torment a criminal by haveing him in prison for many years, traped then just killing him.

10 hours later 8659467 Anonymous
>>8650999 Redshit is for Atheists you dumb moron.

10 hours later 8659691 Anonymous (screenshot.png 995x403 28kB)
>>8650168 Damn you weren't kidding

10 hours later 8659719 Anonymous
Lol if you trust your government enough to agree with them executing people.

10 hours later 8659734 Anonymous
>>8659719 Not all the time but I'm fairly sure that, for example, John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln.

10 hours later 8659768 Anonymous
>hurr lets use tax money to feed criminal maniacs and murderers instead of using it on anything else Dumb pussies, all of you.

10 hours later 8660003 Anonymous
Execution with all the surveys, trials, experts etc. needed is more expensive than life in prison. So that's not a valid argument. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/ ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/execu te-or-not-question-cost/#.USaNwGd6R vA

12 hours later 8661718 Anonymous
>>8659459 So we should keep prisoners alive because it is 'more' cruel? The death penalty is not about punishment, or reflection, or salvation - it is to be used because such a criminal is deemed not fit to live in society any longer. To keep them in a prison for life for some wasteful sadistic voyeurism so you can self-masturbate over imagining the torment caused to the criminal is just ridiculous.

12 hours later 8661752 Anonymous
>>8650166 But we don't have the death penalty, yuropoor.

12 hours later 8661802 Anonymous
>>8660003 Thats not for certain, the source only proves that the death penalty system in the current legal system of the US is more expensive than other punishments.

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