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2013-01-24 02:12 8007344 Anonymous (franceoruk.jpg 403x268 69kB)
My fellow American countrymen, which would you say has held a more beneficial and valuable relationship with us, France or the United Kingdom?

2 min later 8007407 Anonymous
We wouldn't be a nation without the both of them. Thanks Dads~~

7 min later 8007518 Anonymous
I'd say France. We've never been in a formal conflict with them, and well, we wouldn't be a country without them.

14 min later 8007650 Anonymous
France, they saved our asses America has more in common with France

21 min later 8007766 Anonymous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_rel ationship

25 min later 8007862 Anonymous
>>8007766 Sometimes I wonder if the UK doesn't deep down still think of us as part of them... Why else treat us like family so much?

25 min later 8007867 Anonymous
France is truly our greatest ally.

32 min later 8008038 Anonymous (1339782060232.png 500x500 49kB)
>>8007867

35 min later 8008089 Anonymous
>>8008038 don't worry you're close 2nd.

36 min later 8008112 Anonymous
Tough question. I appreciate the Statue of Liberty and the support during the revolution but I feel more connection and pseudo-loyalty to the United Kingdom. Both are great though in my opinion.

36 min later 8008115 Anonymous
Historically? France. Without them, we don't exist. End of story. More recently? The UK. We've been pretty much inseparable for a century. I love them both, though.

37 min later 8008130 Anonymous
>>8008038 Unlike France, you haven't been there from the start. But France is right, >>8008089 you are a close second.

37 min later 8008132 Anonymous
Neither. NEVER FORGET QUASI-WAR AND BUNKER HILL.

38 min later 8008162 Anonymous
>>8008112 Same. I'm not even of British ancestry, but I feel a very deep, profound connection with Great Britain. When I hear an orchestra playing or a choir singing Jerusalem, I get a lump in my throat.

40 min later 8008209 Anonymous
Historically probably France. Realistically, UK.

59 min later 8008568 Anonymous
>>8007344 France allowed you to be a country. I understand if you pick them.

1 hours later 8008708 Belgium
Is it because France is back in the NATO that you're not angry anymore murrica? I remember some years ago that was hate between the two of you. You didn't like how France expressed its interests at the UN council... An ugly veto against one of your war in the Middle East I think. Iraq, right? At the point that you forbid some French products if I am right.

1 hours later 8008744 Anonymous
>>8007867 >France was truly our greatest ally. ftfy.

1 hours later 8008769 Anonymous
>>8007862 They want to be to the US empire what Greece was to the Roman one. Like a badass and powerfull extension of themselves.

1 hours later 8008784 Anonymous
>>8008708 We're both stubborn assholes. But deep down, we have a sort of grudging respect for each other.

1 hours later 8008809 Belgium
>>8008784 I've noticed some similarities between France and the United States. I wasn't really surprised though.

1 hours later 8008827 Anonymous
All this people saying that the US wouldn't have been independant without France. Thanks but do you really mean it? Don't you think it would have taken maybe a few years more but US would have eventually been independant?

1 hours later 8008848 Anonymous
>>8008827 >Thanks but do you really mean it? Don't you think it would have taken maybe a few years more but US would have eventually been independant? Ignorance. France provided rifles, troops, generals, logistics to fight the British. Without that it would have taken centuries for the americans to defeat the British.

1 hours later 8008863 Anonymous
>>8008827 >Don't you think No. No one probably does this here.

1 hours later 8008864 Anonymous
France. >Never at war with us >Helped win our independence >Has been an on-and-off ally ever since Meanwhile, UK >Been at war with us twice >Meddled in our affairs for another 100 years >Didn't become a true ally until after World War II >Constantly bitches about our relationship >Barely contributes anything materially to it We may speak the same language and share a lot of our history and culture, but France has been a more consistent ally and for longer.

1 hours later 8008886 Anonymous
>>8008827 We didn't have a navy besides like 6 small ships, without your naval power the Brits would have just blockaded us until we surrendered

1 hours later 8008914 Anonymous (220px-Gilbert_du_Motier_Marquis_de_Lafayette.png 220x310 129kB)
Whenever I visit Paris, I make a point of paying my respects to this man. ;_; best Franco-American ever

1 hours later 8008961 Anonymous
>>8008914 > Participated to the US war of independance > Actively participated to the french revolution > Was a badass militaryman and also a great man of ideas. > Did a trip in the USA when he was older to admire the results of the US independance. Why did hollywood never made a movie about his life?

1 hours later 8009021 Anonymous (Alexis_de_tocqueville.jpg 1031x1382 161kB)
>>8008961 I don't know. My US History professor basically spent an entire semester jacking off to that guy, and also pic related, who is read like the Bible by US history enthusiasts.

1 hours later 8009026 Anonymous
>>8008961 >Why did hollywood never made a movie about his life? They will. They will. Over other street and square and town in the US is named Lafayette. We just need to keep Spielberg away from it.

1 hours later 8009036 Anonymous
>>8009026 >Over *every sorry my fingers are sticky from burger

1 hours later 8009044 Belgium (DSCN3583.jpg 4000x3000 3092kB)
>>8008961 I went where Lafayette took off to America Pure coincidence Look how the French care, there's a little lovely memorial

1 hours later 8009086 Anonymous (6344845640_3d777a6a17_z.jpg 640x480 292kB)
>>8009044 This is his tomb at Picpus in Paris.

1 hours later 8009097 Anonymous
>>8009021 It's funny because he was also somehow critic toward the US (too much individualism, God = money...). I didn't read it completly tho.

1 hours later 8009105 Anonymous
>>8008961 Better question, why isn't he in the Pantheon?

1 hours later 8009114 Belgium
>>8009086 He is indeed honored for all he did for both France&America Oh and I've heard that when the Americans declared war aside France to Germany in 1917 they came to Europe saying "Lafayette here we come" Is that historically true?

1 hours later 8009119 Anonymous
>>8007862 I.It's n..not.. like I l.l.like you or anything.

1 hours later 8009125 Belgium
>>8009105 Not worthy enough I guess Sorry America But nice comparaison between the French Pantheon and your Hollywood

1 hours later 8009169 Anonymous (800px-Pershing_at_Lafayette_Tomb.jpg 800x564 88kB)
>>8009114 Yes. When Gen. Pershing arrived in France, he visited the tomb of Lafayette, where he and others paid his respects. His aide, Col. Stanton, gave a speech that ended with the following words: >"America has joined forces with the Allied Powers, and what we have of blood and treasure are yours. Therefore it is that with loving pride we drape the colors in tribute of respect to this citizen of your great republic. And here and now, in the presence of the illustrious dead, we pledge our hearts and our honor in carrying this war to a successful issue. Lafayette, we are here." Pic: Pershing saluting Lafayette's grave.

1 hours later 8009191 Belgium
>>8009169 Sounds like a great speech.

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