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2013-01-08 02:00 7688416 Anonymous Question for our brazilian friends (huehuehue) (yourfaultfuckingbrazilians.jpg 567x242 45kB)
Hello fagguts I'm doing an exposé on the Brazilian deforestation. Can some random brazilianfag can tell me some shit about the social, economical and ecological impact without saying "it's bad" or "it's good". thunks fagguts

3 min later 7688461 Anonymous
Answur the fackang quastune

7 min later 7688511 Anonymous
I don't think I can, I don't care about it to be honest.

7 min later 7688513 Anonymous
go on fagget

9 min later 7688538 Anonymous (Reaction_Carlos.jpg 205x205 7kB)
I guess you could say, the defoliation is a Full Brazilian!

10 min later 7688544 Anonymous
It always perplexes me why people come here for stuff like this. You can probably find plenty of (scholarly and quotable) articles about the topic after 5 mins of searching.

11 min later 7688551 Anonymous
You heard about that law that passed in 2011? Fucking bullshit. Brazil chooses their farmers over the world's lungs. Brazillian farmers can chop down even more. For years the Br. government discussed the law of 1965, it was too old according to the farmers (who like to chop wood). Too weak and not enforced properly, according to the nature lovers. After over 40 years of debating in 2011 they passed a new law. Result: The deforestation will continue in an even higher gear. The Br. senate agreed with a radical reform that makes this possible. The farmers are happy with tis law. The law makes it impossible for the farmers to be sued for illegal deforestation from before 2008. This amounts to about 55 million hectares, or a piece of land about the size of France. Greenpeace and other organizations expect a wave of deforestation in the Amazon. The Br. ex-secretary of environment Marina Silva called for pres Rousseff to veto the law. Why does Br. easy up on the protection? The up-and-coming country has millions of hectares of vertile soil, but it's all hidden underneath the rainforest. The country wants to be the largest agriculturalproducer in the world. According to the farmers this is impossible if they follow the laws. "We will end this environmental dictatorship in which a handful of NGO's rule the ministery of environment" said Katia Abreu. According to the newspaper Folha de Sao Paulo about 50 politicians have received sizable donations from organizations that have committed illegal deforestations. According to the amnestylaw in the new law, they don't have to pay fines anymore. The donations are a fair deal cheaper than the fines. TL:DR illegal deforestators bribed politicians

12 min later 7688575 Anonymous
>>7688538 5/5 :-DDD

14 min later 7688595 Anonymous
>Europe and the US deforested most of their land for agricultural, industrial and habitational purposes, making them the richest nations >Brazil wants to do the same to achieve the same results, ZOMG environmental catastrophe, barbarians, how dare they do that, etc...

19 min later 7688646 Anonymous
>>7688595 >Europe makes a mistake in the past >Learns from it >Tries to stop Brazil from making the same mistake >NO YOU DID IT TOO

19 min later 7688649 Anonymous
>>7688551 this ''lung of the world'' is the most ridiculous trash lower-class people. Have some proper education on the subject before saying shit like this.

21 min later 7688668 Anonymous
Wow. Being Brazilian is trending now. I open /int/ and it's full of nice Brazilian threads. Feels good to be Brazilian. This decade belongs to Brazil.

23 min later 7688684 Anonymous
>>7688646 tell you what, since Brazil is still catching up economically, lets do the following, Brazil continues to deforest to provide more usable land, and the rich Euro countries and the US start planting forests on a large scale to compensate. ..but ofc that will never happen

25 min later 7688699 Anonymous
>>7688684 Yeah this, if they learned from it how come they aren't reforesting those areas?

26 min later 7688706 Anonymous
their forests are full of exotic and deadly, skittering creepy crawleys anyway. burn everything.

26 min later 7688713 Anonymous
Hey you fugguts, you forgot to answer my quastan so put your finger up to your asshole and type

28 min later 7688733 Anonymous
>>7688511 this

30 min later 7688772 Anonymous
Funny how the west has ceased to give a flying shit about environmental concerns and de-forestation suddenly after 2008 and the crash. Maybe in the hey-days of the 90s and early 2000s, when we were idle and everything was uneventful, we'd care. But now we're trying to sort out our own countries economically. So deforestation is a non-issue. Remember all that hype about global warming and the alarmism? It's all FINALLY gone. Don't bring it back up.

32 min later 7688793 Anonymous (1352741454030.jpg 501x373 40kB)
>>7688511 >>7688649 >>7688668 they turn your country into a wasteland and your reaction is 'huehuehue I don't caaaare'

32 min later 7688799 Anonymous
>>7688684 >More usable land The Amazonian soil is poor, after you remove the trees you can maybe get 1 good harvest of soy, after that it's only usable very ineficiently to farm cattle

33 min later 7688812 Anonymous
>>7688684 LOL Portugal. We already have absurd amounts of usable lands. The reason for the deforestation is money. It's that simple.

34 min later 7688819 Anonymous
>>7688793 Only the white, suburban middle-class westerner has enough time to even care about this. The average person doesn't.

35 min later 7688826 Anonymous
>>7688819 that's bullshit and you know it. it concerns everyone.

35 min later 7688828 Anonymous
>>7688793

36 min later 7688843 Anonymous
>>7688826 Not in this economic climate. If you asked me back in 2005, then maybe people would still care. We have our own money problems now, this is a non-issue. Who cares about some fucking trees.

38 min later 7688871 Anonymous (population-density-of-brazil.gif 461x436 51kB)
>>7688793 See that area in the North and middle of Brazil with low population density? That's the amazon. Few people live there, and even fewer take their living from the forest. It's sad, but people don't care that much But you have to consider that in 2011 we had the lowest deforestation rates since when we started recording, so looks like we are doing something

39 min later 7688879 Anonymous
>>7688843 Always so shortsighted eh? Deforestation is a problem for everyone at every time.

42 min later 7688914 Anonymous
>>7688826 One of them did have a good point. Calling the Amazon forest the lung of the world is retarded, since most of the oxygen comes from the oceans. Not that I want them to deforest the whole thing anyway.

42 min later 7688918 Anonymous
>>7688843 I cant' see how an economy crisis makes deforestation less a problem. this is a problem that goes way further than just being an economic one. >>7688871 no one cares a about jungle-niggers eating giant spiders and making monkey sounds. but turning big parts of south America into mars 2.0 is a really bad idea. just look at all the places that already did that, namely in asia.

46 min later 7688974 Anonymous
>>7688918 I agree with you, swissbro, but the people who deforest the amazon are making a lot of money and have a lot of power. And the Brazilians are more worried about their welfare checks

48 min later 7688995 Anonymous
>>7688879 Shut your whore mouth Jersey, nobody cares about what you have to say. Stay on that irrelevant island. >>7688918 I don't really see why we should halt the progress of a third-world nation because they are going against our beliefs. Who gives us the right to tell them what to do?

49 min later 7689022 Anonymous
>>7688974 De-forestation is a non-issue. What governments care about is jobs, infrastructure and the economy. Cutting trees and selling wood equals profit. They don't care what some san Francisco Obama supporter liberal fuck thinks about it

52 min later 7689066 Anonymous
>>7688995 >our beliefs nothing to do with believes >Who gives us the right to tell them what to do? we take it. we are the west and we do the fuck whatever we want. >De-forestation is a non-issue. [...] economy but it hurts the economy in the long run.

53 min later 7689070 Anonymous
>>7689022 Most of the deforestation is illegal, the Government doesn't receive 1 cent in taxes

54 min later 7689090 Anonymous
>>7689066 >nothing to do with believes Then why you bitching? >we take it. we are the west and we do the fuck whatever we want. Not for long we won't, this century will see a massive power shift >but it hurts the economy in the long run. How?

55 min later 7689103 Anonymous
>>7689070 Private companies contribute to the economy too you know.

57 min later 7689132 Anonymous
>>7689103 No when they are illegal. A drug cartel pays as much taxes as a illegal logger

57 min later 7689144 Anonymous
>>7689132 >paying taxes = contributing to economy Nope.

58 min later 7689148 Anonymous
>>7689090 >Then why you bitching? I'm just pointing out. >Not for long we won't, this century will see a massive power shift yeah right >How? after the wood is sold and after 1 soya bean harvest you can feed some cows until the wind and rain washed away the last of the soil. meanwhile you will have some serious draughts because there is no wood to store the water.

58 min later 7689155 Anonymous
>>7689148 >wood to store *forest

1 hours later 7689214 Anonymous
>>7688793 Hey piece of shit, are you fucking retarded? I never said I didn't care, your reading comprehension is that of a 5 year old. Aren'r you supposed to have decent education in Switzerland? It seems like you don't, considering how retarded you're. Yet, I'm the huehue. Funny.

1 hours later 7689236 Anonymous
>>7689148 You seem to be forgetting, this is Brazil's problem. Their own domestic economy problems. This has nothing to do with us, so step back, stay out of their business, let them grow, and we'll profit from you. Surely Switzerland of all countries would know about this strategy?

1 hours later 7689251 Anonymous
>>7689214 calm your hairy titties

1 hours later 7689253 Anonymous
>>7689144 >Logging >Contributing to the local economy with infrastructure and jobs Nope, Loggers use only a few semi-slave workers in the middle of no ware. Developing a sustainable local economy requires an also sustainable use of the forest.

1 hours later 7689285 Anonymous
>>7689214 go and eat some bananas >>7689236 there are no more local problems anymore in a global world. and anyway rainforest deforestation IS a global problem.

1 hours later 7689293 Anonymous
Global warming is white people bullshit, did the whitey cracker forget who start the industrial revolution and start sending smokes to heaven? White people are just afraid asian, latino, etc are getting industrialized and removing them. Fucking whitey, cancer of the world, good thing my black and arab brother are reverse colonizing them, enjoy having your daughter fucked by big black muslim cock you cracker.

1 hours later 7689307 Anonymous
>>7689214 >Aren'r you supposed to have decent education in Switzerland? Brazilian stereotyping everyone as usual. >All Americans are fit and live in mansions >Brooklyn only has blacks >Eastern Europe is poorer than Brazil >All of Africa is jungle and genocide Yeah, Brazilians get their knowledge from Hollywood movies.

1 hours later 7689309 Anonymous
>>7689285 >gets told for being an idiot >''huuur duuurrr'' damage control Really, now, is that the best you can do? You're just gonna evade the fact that you acted like an idiot without any arguments to back you up? Ok then. Didn't expect much from you.

1 hours later 7689317 Anonymous
>>7689307 >can't understand sarcasm lel

1 hours later 7689323 Anonymous
>>7689307 >All of Africa is jungle and genocide It...It isn't?

1 hours later 7689338 Anonymous
>>7689309 huehuehue

1 hours later 7689468 Anonymous
>>7689338 HUEhUEHuHEUheUHuEhuEHUEHEU

1 hours later 7689503 Anonymous
>>7689468 HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

1 hours later 7689508 Anonymous
>>7689338 >mfw still can't come up with an argument le_lel_face.gif

1 hours later 7689520 Anonymous
>>7689103 All private company are obligated to promote reforestation, unsustainable deforestation is strictly illegal. But the problems lies on the fact that we simply don't have enough people and resources to take care of the huge amount of forest land we have, more than 3/4 of Brazil is covered by forests and we are almost the size of Europe, we don't even have conscription so that we can send enough soldiers to patrol and take care of that entire area. But yes, there is a lot of projects made to protect the amazon rain forest, our forestry constitution is probably one of the biggest in the world, but again what is the point if you can't put it in practice while companies prefer to make their business under the covers and buy wood from illegal deforestation because it's cheaper (even if the government obligate them to practice reforestation)? Also, government corruption, which allowed projects such as this >>7688551 to pass out, it had a lot of protests all over Brazil (I was on them) against it, but unfortunately this government seems to accept the fact that is now okay to deforest more than what is already done. It's fucking pathetic. But it's hard to change it since the poorfucks (half of Brazil) will keep voting for them while they still receive their welfare money.

1 hours later 7689624 Anonymous
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1 hours later 7689671 Anonymous
>>7689520 It wasn't corruption. The law was ridicolous in the first place. The owners of big portions of land would be able to still produce with the new regulation and the owners of very small piece of lands would almost lose the entire territory to "nature" >>7688551 Why don't you and greenpeace do something about Shell?

1 hours later 7689692 Anonymous
Brazilian here, defoerstatiun bad becuse me an my monki frends no have branch to sit on anymore ; ( i cry everytim

1 hours later 7689756 Anonymous
>>7689692 Portuspic here, denbs bad becuase me an my bffs no have jobs where we can b lazy anymore ; (

1 hours later 7689903 Anonymous
>>7689508 it's the only argument a monkey like you would understand. huehuehue

1 hours later 7689907 Anonymous
>>7689756 I still have a job to be lazy at I'm just taxed more on my income so I can't spend as much money on beer and weed, but that's ok I just found out about jenkem. I don't think you know what spic means, and for the record we prefer the term "shitskin" or "filthy arab descendants"

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