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2012-10-11 12:50 6233487 Anonymous (170763_america_freedom_for_sale_1.jpg 1280x800 169kB)
Americans: do you really feel free, or is it just an ironic joke about your dictatorship of the market?

2 min later 6233514 Anonymous
Sí, me siento demasiado libre.

3 min later 6233526 Anonymous
>>6233487 I'm free as fuck.

3 min later 6233533 Anonymous
I feel pretty free yo.

4 min later 6233541 Anonymous
Sort of. But I'd feel a lot more free if weed were legalized.

4 min later 6233550 Anonymous
so... are you free to have health care and education?

4 min later 6233552 Anonymous
>>6233487 It's a joke for me. I'm freer than many other countries, but not the freest.

4 min later 6233553 Anonymous
>>6233541 Weed is for black people. This is what my dad always told me, why would you emulate their behavior?

5 min later 6233568 Anonymous
>>6233541 Just smoke it illegally like the rest of the world. He'll it's technically not even legal in the Netherlands.

5 min later 6233569 Anonymous
>>6233541 what about abortion and gay marriage?

6 min later 6233574 Anonymous I said I would repost it, Belgiumfag.
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're referring to as "Land of the free", is in fact, "Land of the freedums", or as I've recently taken to calling it, "Land of the free plus dumb". Free is not a nation wide status unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning nation made useful by the dumb Americans, Jewish lobby and paranoia comprising a full nation as defined by the EU. Many nations run a modified version of the "free plus dumb" every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of "freedums" which is widely used today is often called democracy, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the "freedums" system, developed by the first world Governments. There really is a free, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Free is the illusion: the idea of input in the system that allocates the nation resources to the other people that require freedums. The Jewish lobby is an essential part of an freedums system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete free plus dumb. Free is normally used in combination with the dumbs democracy system: the whole system is basically dumb people with free added, or "freedums". All the so-called free nations are really distributions of free plus dumb!

6 min later 6233575 Anonymous
>>6233569 Abortion is legal and gay marriage is a state issue.

6 min later 6233582 Anonymous
>>6233550 Yes

6 min later 6233584 Anonymous
>>6233550 We have public schools through high school. University or college is funded normally through debt.

6 min later 6233585 Anonymous
>>6233553 Shit weed is for negros, chronic is for rich suburban white people. Do you even America?

7 min later 6233589 Anonymous
well back in 1812, the rise of nationalism and american exceptionalism was at an all time high. With the war of 1812 approaching, the anglophobes were fueled by this. Every since then, the american discourse community has always been passed down as freedom since then since they were feeling pretty free after kicking out the brits. now shut up nigger and don't speak about shit you don't know.

7 min later 6233594 Anonymous
>>6233568 I do, but knowing how much time I could end up in jail for it and how many companies do random drug tests these days pisses me off. I don't come to work blazed out of my mind, so why should it even matter?

8 min later 6233606 Anonymous
>>6233575 Did your daddy tell you that too?

8 min later 6233609 Anonymous
>>6233487 I can't really think of anything reasonable I'd want to do that I can't, if that answers your question.

9 min later 6233615 Anonymous
>>6233594 It doesn't 420 smoke weed everyday.

9 min later 6233617 Anonymous
In some ways. When governments pass measures regarding behaviors or habits that the US wouldn't dare mess with, for example. Other times, I feel like I'm in the wrong developed country. The US in general is fighting between having a dog-eat-dog nation where the rich and only the rich prosper and a nation that is slightly better but not really. We're free on paper.

9 min later 6233620 Anonymous
>>6233569 Depends on the state, the funny part about the states is pretty much everything is legal in one state or another. Prostitution: Nevada Weed: West Coast (for all intents and purposes) abortion: everywhere, except maybe Mississippi? gay marriage: Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, and Vermont, as well as the District of Columbia

9 min later 6233621 Anonymous
>>6233584 Do you feel free then? What about equal opportunities? Is freedom a characteristic of people with money (white and born in America)?

9 min later 6233622 Anonymous
Do you want to start shitposting about us you filthy nigger? Obviously we are free, not like you fucking indian. Kill yourself

10 min later 6233634 Anonymous
>>6233514 Demasiado has a bad connotation. It doesn't mean what you think.

10 min later 6233640 Anonymous
>>6233621 define free...

11 min later 6233652 Anonymous
>>6233584 yeah; going to college to have a job that will never pay the debt you loaned to go to college to have a job that will never pay the debt you loaned to go college to have a job that wi- oh wait

12 min later 6233662 Anonymous (1342752354940.jpg 500x329 82kB)
>>6233487 If you keep making posts as edgy as this one, you might cut yourself, OP. Stay delusional.

12 min later 6233667 Anonymous
>>6233621 Minorities in the inner city are actually given more state sponsored opportunities than people that live in middle class areas. Blaming the white man is a piss poor excuse for being poor and stupid.

12 min later 6233670 Anonymous
>>6233621 When the people of the U.S. talk about freedom we normally use a definition derived from natural rights theory.

13 min later 6233678 Anonymous
>>6233652 That's normally not the case...

14 min later 6233694 Anonymous
>>6233652 >be dumb as shit >have to repeat the circle you just posted alternatively >do excellent in high school >be rewarded with scholarships for Universities and not have to worry about debt But Americans are all too stupid though to do any of that xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD AMIRITE GUYSE?

15 min later 6233698 Anonymous
>>6233621 >Is freedom a characteristic of people with money (white and born in America)? Yes, it is.

15 min later 6233700 Anonymous
>>6233640 in this context, the situation in which a black kid, a latino kid, a non-american child, a poor kid and a rich kid reach the same opportunities, the same tools to achieve a full life.

15 min later 6233707 Anonymous
>>6233694 le XDDDXDDDDDDDDDXDDDDD

16 min later 6233713 Anonymous
>>6233662 Not being edgy, just can't believe how much you enjoy eating shit

17 min later 6233723 Anonymous
>>6233713 >ARGENTINA criticizing other countries Oh god...

17 min later 6233729 Anonymous
>>6233700 The rich white guy will be more free, followed by the Asian, Latino, and lastly Black. As for the non-American, it depends on where he's from? Africa? Have fun selling fake watches? India? Welcome to IBM.

17 min later 6233731 Anonymous
>>6233700 Some people have more money and means than others, that will always be the case regardless of what system of government you are under.

18 min later 6233738 Anonymous
>>6233667 >>6233670 what about death penalty? (95% used on non-whites) and a prison system that doesn't aim to reintegrate

18 min later 6233741 Anonymous
>>6233487 Yes, but only if you know how to work the system.

18 min later 6233745 Anonymous
>>6233700 Well in this case, the minorities have a better opportunity than the rest due to the face that colleges will jump at the chance to give them an education due to the fact it makes them look good, provided they proved themselves capable of doing so through grades and such.

18 min later 6233747 Anonymous
>>6233694 the system works like that in a variety of places; but USA just appears to be the bastion of such issues

19 min later 6233753 Anonymous
>>6233747 We have a ton of blacks.

19 min later 6233760 Anonymous
>>6233723 Ignore my flag, my country isn't free neither, but we don't boast about it

20 min later 6233773 Anonymous (1343979801709.jpg 464x444 50kB)
>>6233713 >Argentina criticizing other countries My sides have ventured beyond the solar system.

20 min later 6233775 Anonymous
>>6233729 where is the freedom then?

20 min later 6233779 Anonymous
>>6233713 You do realize our MEDIAN income is around 45,000$ a year. We aren't just a country founded on a mountain of lies you know... We work hard and are proud of this fact. There are rich blacks and rich latinos as well as whites. Self-made men, and self-made failures. Maybe you should be criticizing your own institutions before ours.

21 min later 6233785 Anonymous
>>6233773 read this >>6233760

22 min later 6233804 Anonymous (National_Defense_Authorization_Act_2012[1].jpg 500x618 79kB)
muh freedums

22 min later 6233809 Anonymous (1343944707818.gif 403x234 2086kB)
>>6233760 >taking every American shitposter on here 100% seriously

23 min later 6233820 Anonymous
>>6233779 don't be a hypocrite, "self-made" doesn't exist... and minorities rich people are a extreme minority

23 min later 6233827 Anonymous
>>6233820 >"self-made" doesn't exist Oh, hey Obama.

23 min later 6233833 Anonymous
>>6233775 That would depend on what you define freedom. In any multiracial and multi-class nation, people will be more 'free' than others. Whites in Anglo nations will always have more money and more power and encounter less discrimination. They are more 'free' than minorities.

24 min later 6233835 Anonymous
>>6233809 Read first post please, from here comes my question.

24 min later 6233838 Anonymous
>>6233760 >isn't free neither I feel so fucking free.

24 min later 6233847 Anonymous
>>6233833 relative freedom isn't freedom

25 min later 6233851 Anonymous (1343855418654.jpg 500x490 34kB)
>>6233804 It sucks bro. I'm posting this from a camp right now, I managed to sneak on the guards laptop when he was asleep. Every American ever is forced to go to these places from birth.

25 min later 6233857 Anonymous
>>6233569 Same poster that you replied to here. Honestly, I don't give a fuck about abortion and gay marriage. If a woman wants to get that fetus scooped out of her, it's not any of my business. Same deal with same sex marriage. There's ultimately no reason it shouldn't be allowed.

25 min later 6233859 Anonymous
btw: sorry for my bad english, I was free to learn it but didn't take it

26 min later 6233861 Anonymous (1343775409156.png 500x400 551kB)
>all these people telling me about my own country Thanks, guys! I am truly enlightened.

26 min later 6233866 Anonymous
>>6233857 It's kind of my business if someone wants to murder babbies.

26 min later 6233870 Anonymous
>>6233820 >minorities rich people are a extreme minority I forget who said it, but they raised a good point: your average white guy can be rich and successful, but minorities have to be exceptional to achieve that same level of success.

27 min later 6233876 Anonymous
>>6233847 You sound really naive.

28 min later 6233887 Anonymous
>>6233857 a woman must be free to abort when she pleases, same as a gay couple who want to have a legal engagement

28 min later 6233890 Anonymous
>>6233487 I'm free as fuck.

28 min later 6233892 Anonymous
>>6233827 You were not raised by yourself in the woods of Colorado, teaching yourself language, math, and history.

28 min later 6233900 Anonymous
>>6233866 not sure if trolling or just (stereotyped?) american education

29 min later 6233903 Anonymous
Not particularly but probably more than any european >going to jail for hurting feelings comes to mind How free do latin americans feel?

29 min later 6233909 Anonymous
>>6233900 >kill babbies >AMERICANS LOL SO IGNORANT

30 min later 6233917 Anonymous
>>6233870 sorry but I see no freedom in this sentence

30 min later 6233918 Anonymous
>>6233866 Why? They're not "murdering" you or your offspring.

30 min later 6233922 Anonymous
>>6233918 That's 2 edgy for me. There's a reason murder is illegal.

31 min later 6233928 Anonymous
>>6233487 Maybe you can talk shit about other countries when you don't live in fucking Argentina

32 min later 6233935 Anonymous
>>6233820 You know, I was a poor minority once but I worked hard and got good grades and was able to get into a good engineering school. Now I have a well paying job. So don't you dare tell me there is no such thing as a self-made man you asshat. We have our problems, yes, but the awesome thing about America is nobody gives two shits who you are or what your skin color is. In the end all that matters is the fucking results. Are there inequalities? Of course. Lemme ask you this... Can you think of place where there has never been any inequality? So shut your sanctimonious ass up. There is plenty of opportunity here.

32 min later 6233938 Anonymous
>>6233909 embryo =/= baby sorry if "embryo" isn't the word I searching, I never translated this

33 min later 6233956 Anonymous
>>6233938 Not getting into this, but the only difference is time.

33 min later 6233960 Anonymous
>>6233928 If I say I'm an (awake?) American visiting Argentina would you take it seriously?

33 min later 6233964 Anonymous
>>6233870 >but minorities have to be exceptional to achieve that same level of success. I disagree Minorities have the same oppurtunities as your average white guy it's just they usually dont have as much money to act on them. I think this is because their familys havent been here as long so they didnt have that one guy who got a above average income somewhere up the family line that set his prodigy up for success

34 min later 6233979 Anonymous
>>6233922 So what do you propose we do instead? Some methods of birth control "kill" the fertilized egg, so obviously, that's out the window. Tell people not to have sex? States that take on an abstinence only teaching policy have the highest rates of teen pregnancies and babies born out of wedlock. What happens if it's an ectopic pregnancy? Do both the mother and fetus die just because you don't like the idea of abortion?

34 min later 6233981 Anonymous
>>6233964 The reality is in actuality on average they are less intelligent. It's not up for debate.

35 min later 6233988 Anonymous
>>6233935 so stop calling yourself "the only free land" when it doesn't exist

35 min later 6233999 Anonymous
>>6233960 No, because using words like "awake" make you sound like an edgy teenager. Also, any edgy teenager with the money to leave this country would not go to fucking Argentina of all places.

35 min later 6234003 Anonymous
>>6233956 then use a condom is murder

36 min later 6234007 Anonymous
>>6234003 Sperm is 50% of the equation. An embryo is 100% of it.

37 min later 6234021 Anonymous
It's fairly evident that this Argentinian is just spouting all this nonsense so he can feel better about living in Argentina and not being white.

37 min later 6234022 Anonymous
>>6233988 >so stop calling yourself "the only free land" when it doesn't exist Who said this?

37 min later 6234026 Anonymous
>>6233981 >It's not up for debate I actually agree with you but this makes you sound like a giant faggot.

37 min later 6234034 Anonymous
>>6233999 If you can't have an argument without attack people instead of ideas, better stop it here

38 min later 6234037 Anonymous
>>6234026 Whatever, I'm not here to debate the facts. Just dropping it to add to the debate.

38 min later 6234046 Anonymous
I feel free as fuck

39 min later 6234049 Anonymous
>>6234021 Damn, ignore my flag, I'm not nationalist nor believe in borders

39 min later 6234057 Anonymous
>>6234049 Oh wow.

39 min later 6234059 Anonymous
I feel free in some ways, and not in others. I like the freedom of expression we have here, and it seems more solid and well-protected even than in most European countries. I like not being drafted into the army or any kind of government service. On the other hand, I don't feel free in terms of health care. Having to buy insurance to avoid horrific financial difficulties basically feels like robbery. And while it does not effect me personally, I think a lot of poor people are basically stuck where they are in life and don't have much freedom in a practical sense. It's kind of hard to answer in more detail than that - to be honest I don't feel free at all, but that's more due to personal psychological problems and past failures.

40 min later 6234062 Anonymous
>>6234034 I'm not attacking you, I'm being serious. What do you want us to say? "AMERICA IS HORRIBLE. EVERYONE IS OBESE AND SHOOTS EACH OVER A SCRAP OF HAMBURGER THEN PRAYS TO JESUS FOR FORGIVENESS" There, you happy?

40 min later 6234070 Anonymous
>>6234021 Where do you get this idea from?

40 min later 6234071 Anonymous
>>6234007 Ok I get it, you are trolling. We could have an "abortion debate" at another thread.

41 min later 6234076 Anonymous
>mfw I'm from the country that invented freedom fries and freedom kiss

41 min later 6234083 Anonymous
I kinda feel bad for this guy, I assume he wanted to have a big anti-American circlejerk with other countries but wound up getting everything he posts shot down by Americans.

42 min later 6234098 Anonymous
>>6234076 lol, it's just some dumb rednecks.

42 min later 6234105 Anonymous
>>6234062 civilian weapons is another aspect to criticize, the public force should have hegemony in the "safety"

43 min later 6234118 Anonymous
>>6234076 So France and America are largest exporters of freedum?

43 min later 6234120 Anonymous
>>6234062 You forgot to mention clapping. Do you even American?

43 min later 6234125 Anonymous
>>6234083 He still seems excessively hung up on the abortion and gay marriage thing. People can get abortions, and gay marriage is become more accepted.

44 min later 6234133 Anonymous
>>6234083 Not even close, it isn't an "edgy" or "troll" thread, just wanna learn more about the American idiosyncrasy

44 min later 6234134 Anonymous
>>6234105 how bout, no.

44 min later 6234136 Anonymous
>>6234076 tfw France also gave us an awesome statue

44 min later 6234137 Anonymous (1343864006372.jpg 192x279 34kB)
>>6234120 OH SHIT NOW THE FBI IS COMING TO MURDER ME AND MY FAMILY FOR GIVING MY COUNTRY A BAD NAME *clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap* THIS IS 100% TRUE OP, YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG.

46 min later 6234151 Anonymous
>>6234105 Cops aren't everywhere and especially not when you need them. Why should I not be allowed to defend myself if someone poses a real threat to my life? I'm not even going to go into the sporting and recreational aspects of firearms. Also, they're a means to preserve liberty should it be threatened.

46 min later 6234158 Anonymous
>>6234137 I HEAR IF YOU SPIN AROUND 5 TIMES WHILE CHANTING CIA OR NSA THEY SHOW UP AT YOUR DOOR AND WHISK YOU AWAY TO A FEMA DEATH CAMP.

47 min later 6234166 Anonymous
America is just as much a free nation as any other. That is, less than it is comfortable to admit but more than the neurotic would claim.

48 min later 6234175 Anonymous
>>6234151 freedom to kill? to aply the Justice? to play the "God-game" (implying it exist)?

49 min later 6234181 Anonymous (ishygddt.png 603x401 428kB)
>>6234105 >implying the sole purpose of a firearm is to kill people

50 min later 6234193 Anonymous (1343770654830.jpg 456x628 584kB)
>>6234158 IT'S HAPPENING

51 min later 6234194 Anonymous
>>6234175 So if someone has a knife to your throat, and you have a gun in your hand, you wouldn't use it? Let me get this straight, if someone, through no provocation on your part, decides that he is going to kill you, he has more right to live, because killing him in self defense is "playing god"?

51 min later 6234204 Anonymous
>>6234181 I do not know how to express myself in English, I was talking about "self-defense" weapons on civilians

51 min later 6234207 Anonymous
>>6234181 True, you can also use it to kill animals and clay pigeons.

52 min later 6234209 Anonymous
>>6234175 Do you not understand that firearms are very important in our history?

52 min later 6234211 Anonymous (4563456.png 203x232 62kB)
>>6234175 Nothing to see here folks. If he hadn't already revealed himself earlier, he sure as fuck did it now.

52 min later 6234213 Anonymous
>>6234207 And paper. Damn those evil commie paper targets!

53 min later 6234222 Anonymous
>>6234204 Our country has a long history of firearm ownership and we would prefer to keep it that way. I don't know what else to say?

53 min later 6234223 Anonymous
>>6234194 The judiciary and the police takes care of that, because we are civilized societies.

53 min later 6234225 Anonymous
>>6234181 What else can you use a firearm for besides killing, maiming, or scaring someone off with? I like my gun, but I'm not using it to toss salads with.

54 min later 6234234 Anonymous
>>6234223 The judiciary and police aren't always around and can in fact sometimes be corrupt.

55 min later 6234240 Anonymous
>>6234225 Self defense dosent have to involve killing.

55 min later 6234242 Anonymous (1343590757060.jpg 946x485 121kB)
>>6234207 Just shooting in general is one of the most entertaining things on earth. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vm3-BQRJU >you will never have more fun than this >tfw I've been there

56 min later 6234248 Anonymous
>>6234223 You know what the police and the judiciary system will do for you? Clean up your body, maybe if you're lucky, they catch the guy and send him to prison. But what good is that if you're already dead?

56 min later 6234251 Anonymous
>>6234222 >>6234209 You also had a tradition of enslaving black people, you can always change your bad habits.

57 min later 6234265 Anonymous
>>6234223 >relying on the government for everything and everything >i shouldn't protect myself, that's the responsibility of the government >hmm, where's a cop when you need one?

58 min later 6234267 Anonymous
>>6234240 Hence why I listed maiming and scaring off in my sentence. Unless you're into collecting, they don't serve much more of a purpose.

58 min later 6234268 Anonymous
>>6234248 Also killing deserves a fair trial and be imprisoned for a future reintegration into society

58 min later 6234271 Anonymous
>>6234251 >firearm ownership >bad habit I disagree

58 min later 6234272 Anonymous
>>6234242 God, that looks like so much fun.

58 min later 6234273 Anonymous
>>6234251 >White Americans are the only people responsible for all slavery ever

58 min later 6234277 Anonymous
>>6234251 I'm sorry we enslaved you.

59 min later 6234283 Anonymous
I have no weapons and never needed or wanted one

59 min later 6234284 Anonymous
>>6234251 >firearm ownership protecting rights >slavery infringing on rights C'mon man.

1 hours later 6234292 Anonymous
>>6234283 I don't have weapons either, but if my fellow American wishes to protect himself with a firearm I have no qualms.

1 hours later 6234293 Anonymous
>>6234277 I lol'd.

1 hours later 6234301 Anonymous
>>6234277 if you want to joke... >implying white Americans are not slaves of the Jews

1 hours later 6234307 Anonymous
>>6234283 I own multiple firearms and have also never needed to use them on another human being, nor do I foresee having to. I own firearms primarily for recreation and to exercise my rights, but if someone intends to hurt or kill me or my family, I will defend myself.

1 hours later 6234308 Anonymous
>>6234283 Because you never fought off the most powerful empire in the world with the use of guns.

1 hours later 6234320 Anonymous
>>6234301 B-but Mr. Goldsilverburgseinfeldsteinman pays us handsomely in burgers....

1 hours later 6234330 Anonymous
>>6234301 You're right. My jewish overlord only lets me out of the closet to post pro-american propaganda on 4chan. I am now going to suck his dick for 5 shekels. Bye.

1 hours later 6234337 Anonymous
>>6234301 Sorry your troll thread turning into us reasonably and logically refuting your points, but you don't have to start shitposting like that.

1 hours later 6234351 Anonymous
>>6234330 You don't need chains to be a slave, you only need a TV or walk on any street to keep in a dictatorship of the market (ruled by who?)

1 hours later 6234363 Anonymous
>>6234337 I know, but you just can't debate ideas without calling me black (indicator that I'm winning)

1 hours later 6234373 Anonymous
>>6234337 This. Just give up, OP, and I hope you learned something from this thread.

1 hours later 6234411 Anonymous
>>6233487 It's an ironic joke about how Argentinians are gigantic faggots who don't understand that a liberty doesn't just call for a free society but a free market as well. You can't pick and choose what you want to be free and still call yourself a supporter of freedom.

1 hours later 6234425 Anonymous
>>6234363 I recall one post with someone joking about Argentinians claiming to be white. The vast majority of this thread was polite, logic refutation of your points. You get nothing. You lose. Good day sir.

1 hours later 6234442 Anonymous
Y'know, even though all this spying shit like SOPA and that executive order Obongo wants, I still feel pretty free.

1 hours later 6234471 Anonymous
>>6234351 You sound like an edgy 12 year old Che Guevara fan.

1 hours later 6234553 Anonymous
>>6234425 what about >>6234277 >>6234158 >>6234137 >>6234021 >>6233999

1 hours later 6234568 Anonymous
>>6234553 >>6234425 plus the only shit I said was you are on a dictatorship of market ruled by the Jews (who own the TV industry ergo publicity industry)

1 hours later 6234571 Anonymous
>>6234553 I SAID GOOD DAY! But seriously, you made a thread that seemed like you wanted a serious discussion, but it turns out you want to be told your opinions are correct, or you were trolling. So people started mocking/trolling you.

1 hours later 6234577 Anonymous
>>6234471 What you saying is really edgy! Stop hurting me please

1 hours later 6234587 Anonymous
>>6234571 Please, say when/where I trolled/stopped with the serious discussion

1 hours later 6234597 Anonymous
>>6234577 >No u! You're better than this, Argentina

1 hours later 6234609 Anonymous
>>6234571 >he wanted a serious discussion from the start Did you even read the OP?

1 hours later 6234613 wanka
Son mas libres que cuba, dejate de joder guevarista puto.... El comunismo es un cancer peor que el capitalismo, una una mentira disfrasada de nacionalismo barato, represion y toma de control y libre expresion de los individuos de la nacion! En el comunismo directamente no existe la libertad de pensamiento contrario al regimen! Y si revisas la historia, el comunismo fallo siempre, no se puede mantener! Asi que metete al terrorista asesino y traidor del che, marx y todos los socialistas\comunistas en el culo queres! PD:Soy argentino y odio con toda mi alma a los comunistas y al puto che!

1 hours later 6234615 Anonymous
>>6234597 I do not know how many of you answered my thread, but I answer each response

1 hours later 6234621 Anonymous
>>6234587 I'll give you this OP, you're different from most shitposters. You're not scared off by intelligent discussion and seem generally curious. I hope you learned not to believe every stereotype you've heard is 100 accurate.

1 hours later 6234628 Anonymous
>>6234613 Lamento informarte que el comunismo -real- nunca existió, es un movimiento global; por lo tanto, al ejecutarse en algunos países individualmente van a, inevitablemente, fallar. De todos modos no soy comunista, soy anarco pacifista.

1 hours later 6234633 Anonymous
>>6233574 >>6233574 I've never seen as much anger as is produced by yuropoors. Must be maddening to live such a shit tier existence with no relevancy in the modern world, riding our coattails and sucking red, white, and blue cock because we're the only reason you worthless faggots even still exist or you would have long driven yourselves to extinction. How does it feel to be no better than Africa, being a relic that wouldn't even exist if not for our might and our charity? Or maybe you starved fucks are jealous because we stuff our face while you're forced to be content with scraps and the smegma from our great American cocks. In short: Fuck you and your shithole of a country, in whatever shitty part of Yurop it may be. I'll be glad when the muslims finally plunder your country into nothing and take your lands, because even those ragheaded pieces of shit are more self-sufficient and have a modicum of more intelligence (though wasted on their shitty religion) than you. Go die in the hole you've dug for yourselves already and rid the world of your trash, it would be the best thing you've ever done for humanity. Sincerely, An American P.S. Fuck you.

1 hours later 6234635 Anonymous
>>6234621 IKR, I also shitpost when it's needed but wanted to learn a little more about your people

1 hours later 6234647 Anonymous
>>6234633 Is this a meme? I swear I've seen this before.

1 hours later 6234651 Anonymous
>>6234615 So back to the original question then... how does the government not giving out as many free services as other countries (and thus having less taxes) make us 'less free'?

1 hours later 6234661 Anonymous (1347288768711.jpg 294x294 50kB)
>>6234647 I posted in the morning in other thread.

1 hours later 6234666 Anonymous
>>6234635 What did you learn from this thread, out of curiosity. Has it altered your opinion of our country?

1 hours later 6234668 Anonymous
>>6234633 What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little pidurashka? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the GRU academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on chechens, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in bear warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire Russian armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that govno to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USSR and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, mudak. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, mat’ tvayu. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, rebenok.

1 hours later 6234672 Anonymous
>>6234661 Are you by the border or something? El Paso? Your flag says you're a third world beaner.

1 hours later 6234675 Anonymous
>>6234133 You sound like you only want to learn things that don't challenge your current views.

1 hours later 6234677 Anonymous
>>6234668 Hey buddy, just thought I'd let you know that I reported this post to the police who are on the case of finding out the admin and shutting it down, I spent an hour with the internet's customer service department, and I've also emailed every major and local radio/news/media corporation today and am awaiting response. I'm more than confident that through my contacts and sources I will find your name, address and then publicly humiliate you and out you for the incredibly mentally disturb person I have seen in a long time. I hope the choice you made to make this immature post was worth the hassel your about to get. I understand you like the aggressive comments so instead I decided to be practical. I believe you are a very sad, immature person, and thus made a controversial post on the internet to get some attention and thus feel like you have a purpose. I hope you mature, find someone, and realize that your not only upsetting everyone else, but you are actually the one who is lonely and upset and needs to find some peace within thereself, otherwise you will have a very lonely time on earth my friend.

1 hours later 6234678 Anonymous
>>6234651 There are no "free" countries, we live in a capitalist world. This thread was aimed to nationalist people who say "muh freedum" "usa #1" A country who drifts more money to war that health care or education isn't so much free

1 hours later 6234684 Anonymous
>>6234678 >This thread was aimed to nationalist people who say "muh freedum" "usa #1" Maybe like 1% of our entire population says these things without any hint of irony.

1 hours later 6234687 Anonymous (1349878540205.jpg 500x601 62kB)
>>6234672 'Merica - The only place where you can eat a brick of cheddar cheese in public without scorn or shame.

1 hours later 6234688 Anonymous
>>6234666 Nope, you defend civilian weapons, paid education and health care, religious positions on abortion and gay marriage

1 hours later 6234690 Anonymous
>>6234687 You mad she's freer than you brah?

1 hours later 6234692 Anonymous
>>6234677 What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little dork? I’ll have you know my dad works for a candy company and we have over 300 jaw breakers in my garage. I was going to let you have one but you just couldn’t hold your tongue. You’re fucking dead, dorkwad

1 hours later 6234698 Anonymous
>>6234678 Firsly, normal people don't even talk about freedom, everyone here is happy with what rights they have. Secondly, the government pooling a bunch of money into military spending has nothing to do with freedom

1 hours later 6234699 Anonymous
>>6234684 This whole 1% is on this thread then, no one said you aren't free

1 hours later 6234701 Anonymous
>>6234692 Fuck you asshole. That's not even funny. My friend is a fucking cop so you better stop that shit or I will get him to find you with your IP. You're a basment dwelling retard with no friends. Go fuck with someone in real life instead of trying to impress these idiots. I feel sorry for you, I really do. If I had no friends and a 2 inch I would probably be angry too. Just fuck off.

1 hours later 6234703 Anonymous
>>6234677 This is gold.

1 hours later 6234706 Anonymous
>>6234688 Not everyone here was defending all of those things though. I know because I was one of the first posters about the abortion and gay marriage thing.

1 hours later 6234707 Anonymous
>>6234688 What I learned from this thread is that you personally are of the opinion that "everything I like is freedom, nothing else counts. i also like to depend on the government for everything"

1 hours later 6234716 Anonymous
Can someone tell me how having the right to bear arms somehow makes us less free?

1 hours later 6234722 Anonymous
>>6234701 Just post the "internet tough guy" copy pasta already, you pussy

1 hours later 6234738 Anonymous
>>6234722 You are a failed abortion I am going to build a time machine and go back to before you were born and fuck your mom so I would be your dad and then I would name you faggitus the bastard child and everyday I would slap in the nuts every morning and make you think it was normal. Then I would make sweet love to your mother every night and be very loud so you can hear it or maybe we would fuck on the kitchen table. When you got into school I would force you to wear crocks and a tap out shirt every day so the kids would make fun of you. Then I would dress as Ronald McDonald and molest you in the attic. I would molest you until I thought you might spill the beans on our games of cave explorer then I would stuff my throbbing cock in your mouth and choke you with it. Then I would widen your corpse's anus with my dick and cum in your prolapsed rectum. I would then go out into the desert and burn your body and piss on it to put it out and mark my territory. Then I would shit in your mouth for good measure. Then I would bury your body in the sand and plant a beautiful saguaro cactus on top of your grave and it would become a flourishing habitat for the local wildlife. The end.

1 hours later 6234739 Anonymous
>>6234722 Already been posted you double nigerian

2 hours later 6234758 Anonymous
>>6234688 But not everyone here defended those things. If you think everyone did you've got some serious cognitive dissonance going on. I know we are not entirely free but there's no reason to be such a penis about it. Jeez..

3 hours later 6235340 Anonymous
I may not be the best to comment since i am planning on leaving America. I feel are freedom is moderate for personal issues gay marriage is the most obvious with youth freedoms and freedom of purchase to be big deals. I know some people are gonna give me shit but America forces people to buy some private amenities which i find to be a complete lack of freedom if anything is to be forced to purchase it should be provided at low price or at least sold by government. business wise America has some stupidly strict laws which create a poisonous environment for starting up businesses. We are a great country in many ways and freer then a lot of places but freedom in quite a few areas is constrained mostly in ways which people don't think about. Along with that the rights of a person to court although allowed are severely hidden subverted and often frankly frowned upon

7 hours later 6236870 Anonymous
>>6234707 Until the society matures. Then, we wont need weapons, not even the security forces.

7 hours later 6236875 Anonymous para el boludo o boluda ese
Gente, no se dejen engañar por un fan de kirchner. Los esta troleando a todos y solo busca hacerlos calentar... People, do not be fooled by a fan of Kirchner. He's trolling everyone. He wants to make you mad ...

7 hours later 6236895 Anonymous
Corrupt security forces is a separate issue, but they should have hegemony in regard to weapons. This is called modern democracy.

7 hours later 6236903 Anonymous
>>6236875 Para nada papá, no soy kirchnerista; ni siquiera peronista.

7 hours later 6236921 Anonymous
dawg, im so god damn free you dont even know

7 hours later 6236930 Anonymous
no lo, vieja, solo leo que haces muchas preguntas sobre otro pais, no por curiosidad solo para levantar la perdiz, cual es la respuesta que buscas? que te digan que america es una cagada? no lo creo, buscas respuestas en un monton de gorditos gamers, que en definitiva, eligen estudiar politia o geografia! jjajaja, y el 90% elige polita, ya que se creen el centro del universo.. anda a taringa, ahi, seguro encontras otro tipo de respuestas, de mi parte, no me ofendo, pero me da por las bolas las preguntas que haces, mas a los gringos... son demaciado orgullosos para ver sus errores.

7 hours later 6236959 Anonymous
>>6236930 Lo aclaré varias veces, pido respuestas sin que miren mi bandera o contrapregunten obviedades sobre nuestra tierra. El thread es sin ánimos de ofender o "trollear"

7 hours later 6236996 Anonymous
>>6234411 >free market in an unequal society >freedom

7 hours later 6237032 Anonymous
We have some freedoms left, but they're disappearing. I don't know why you guys till bring this up either. Americans only really bragged about "MUH FREEDUMBS!" for a year or two after 9/11, and those were only the completely fucktarded patriots. It died down as it always does when the public forgot about the attack and the war.

7 hours later 6237051 Anonymous
>>6237032 Why don't you bomb Malvinas and give it back to us? Oh we don't have oil enough

7 hours later 6237118 Anonymous
>Americans: do you really feel free, or is it just an ironic joke about your dictatorship of the market? Not particularly I'm a fascist though so democracy does not appeal to me.

7 hours later 6237151 Anonymous (1346387059305.jpg 600x437 53kB)
>Reintegrating >Murderers I knew Argentina was weird, but holy shit. Rehabilitation doesn't work. Letting murderers and rapists back onto the street because they popped pills and talked to some beatnik in a tie-dyed shirt about their feelings is retarded. The death penalty exists for a reason and it shouldn't be a long drawn-out bureaucratic process.

8 hours later 6237176 Anonymous
Complicated answer for a complicated question argibro... everyone knows what the patriot act did to our country. we know the fbi/cia has been actively recording all our phone calls and watching our social media for over a decade now. but at the same time, america is huge man. you can go out in the wilderness, at least where I live, and feel totally free. no one is going to come mess with you, and if they do, well you have the 2nd amendment to introduce them to. in many ways I would say a 3rd world country is more free because the government is too shitty and busy laundering money to pay any attention to you.

8 hours later 6237200 Anonymous (3129204271_a10e782a8f.jpg 500x375 167kB)
America has freedom to abuse human life. That is what they use freedom here for. I support a nwo.

8 hours later 6237206 Anonymous
>>6237151 Not sure if trolling but will answer anyways, let me tell you that we are in the third millennium after the birth of Jesus of Nazareth (or sixth after the escape of Moses)

8 hours later 6237226 Anonymous
>>6237176 I disagree but thanks for the serious response

8 hours later 6237360 Anonymous
>>6237226 Do you want to elaborate on what you disagree about? I am assuming it's what I said about 3rd world countries, not that I am implying yours is one. Unless you have lived in America for a long time it is hard to explain how monitored we always are

8 hours later 6237393 sage
America is pretty much bought out. I mean, just look at shitty networks like fox news. People just eat that shit right up. They do the bidding of rich assholes like Rupert Murdock and the Republican party, manipulating the people with Nationalistic BS. Trying to take advantage of America's sense of fear. Now before anyone else says other networks work for the liberal agenda, stop and think: How many liberal networks are overly opinionated, consistently try to use iconic entities to tell people to blindly follow a specific opinion, and flat out ignores the opposite side of things as much as fox news ? The problem is America's rich has unlocked the power of modern manipulation. Why tell the vote counters to throw out a couple votes to increase my chances of winning against the opposition when I can just do a bit of lobbying and pass a law that would typically prevent a certain demographic from voting due to a certain thing they might all have in common? Why tell a certain ethnic group (Recently immigrated Chinese for example) they can't live in my area when I can just say full citizenship is required for payment collection reasons. The USA is under a corporatist dictatorship. Save yourself Latin America while you still can. Don't fall for our tricks.

8 hours later 6237536 Anonymous
>>6237360 >I would say a 3rd world country is more free because the government is too shitty

9 hours later 6237648 Anonymous
>not making a difference between personal freedom and corporate freedom >meaningful discussion

9 hours later 6237930 Anonymous
>>6237648 >third world shithole >coming down on any other country about freedom

9 hours later 6237938 Anonymous
>>6237930 not meant to quote

10 hours later 6238083 Anonymous
>>6237930 Excuse me, are you talking about Argentina or France?

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