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2012-09-27 12:19 6057835 BuckhuNterZ (800px-Abraham_Ortelius_Map_of_Europe.jpg 800x587 213kB)
Hello /int/ I would liek you to please name a handful of people that have had a major impact on European history Protip: No politicians, Hitler etc

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Pope Urban II.

2 min later 6057850 Anonymous
Jesus Martin Luther Montesquieu (and the others) Karl Marx

3 min later 6057856 Anonymous
>>6057835 Martin Luther XD

3 min later 6057859 Anonymous
Jean Chastel, killer of the beast

4 min later 6057872 Anonymous (jew.png 295x334 96kB)
They still do.

7 min later 6057891 Anonymous (Gavrilo_Princip_captured_in_Sarajevo_1914.jpg 741x625 361kB)
Gavrilo Princip

8 min later 6057893 Anonymous
Hmmh Jesus, and for that extent, Justinian. Or was it Theodosius? The one who legalized and embraced Christianity in the Roman Empire.

9 min later 6057902 Anonymous
>>6057893 Constantine legalized it, Theodosius made everything else illegal, and then Justinian made a shitty code of law that had to be heavily modified and then abandoned.

9 min later 6057904 Anonymous
Einstein Columbus Da Vinci

10 min later 6057914 Anonymous (220px-Isabel_la_Cat%C3%B3lica-2[1].jpg 220x314 24kB)
Charlemagne and all subsequent German or French monarchs and leaders, until even the XXth century. Isabella I of Castile Jan Sobieski Karl Gustav Attila

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Peter the great. Transformed Russia from a backwards shithole into a major European power

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James Watt

13 min later 6057933 Anonymous
Ghengis Khan & Attila. They weren't European, but sure had an impact on its history.

13 min later 6057938 Anonymous
Johannes Gutenberg

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>>6057835 Napoleon

14 min later 6057946 Anonymous
Johannes Gutenberg

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>>6057938 >>6057946 Gutenbergmind

15 min later 6057955 Anonymous
Julius Cesar William the Conqueror Emperor Trajan King Henry the 8th Which ever Byzantine Emperor was responsible for the great schism.

16 min later 6057961 Anonymous
>>6057955 >Trajan Did he really impact anything other than creating Romania?

17 min later 6057969 Anonymous
Motherfucking Bismark.

20 min later 6057988 Anonymous
>>6057961 Hang on, I meant Claudius for ordering the Roman invasion of Britain.

21 min later 6057995 BuckhuNterZ (1320530632597.jpg 550x516 133kB)
Helpful thread has been helpful. Keep going /int/ and thanks

22 min later 6058002 Anonymous
>>6057893 And for that matter, I could argue that Muhammed also has had an impact on this continent. Maybe just not in the way he wanted.

24 min later 6058015 Anonymous
I guess the fathers of the European Union would count but that would be a very modern thing.

24 min later 6058016 Anonymous
The Medici family.

26 min later 6058025 Anonymous
>>6058002 By this token Charles Martel, who kept Islam confined to Africa (Which starts at the Pyrénées).

26 min later 6058027 Anonymous
The Rothschilds, of course. Just don't believe the hype that they still have so much power today.

27 min later 6058029 Anonymous
>>6058016 The Rothchilds are very important for non royals.

29 min later 6058045 Anonymous
>>6058025 The guy who invented Greek Fire affected more than Charles Martel.

32 min later 6058062 Anonymous
John Logie Baird Invented TV, so yeah

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>>6058062 http://www.technologyreview.com/featured-story/400802/who-really-invented-television/ Score one more for America.

37 min later 6058105 Anonymous
Napoleon Bonaparte Joseph Stalin Nikola Tesla and zillion of freemasons

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Tomás de Torquemada Oliver Cromwell Joseph-Ignace Guillotin Maximilien de Robespierre Nikolaus Otto Rudolf Diesel Wernher von Braun Otto Hahn and Lise Meitner Marian Rejewski Alan Turing

38 min later 6058116 Anonymous
Pope Sylvester II, pretty much a Renaissance man 500 years before everyone else... Reintroduced the abacus, armillary sphere and advanced hydraulics to the Western World. He also introduced Hindu numerals, i.e. a proper decimal system including 0. On the political side, he legitimated the Kingdom of Hungary and helped put an end to the Carolingian dynasty.

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Walter Raleigh

40 min later 6058127 Anonymous
>>6058091 Well, if i'm being honest - i'm not fussed - the Scots do this all the time: Bagpipes = Persian, brought over by the Romans Tartan = Originates in Central Europe Etc. Filthy thieving Jocks, eh?

41 min later 6058130 Anonymous
>>6058091 No, it most certainly was Baird, his system was inferior to Farnsworth's and was quickly supplanted, but it is indisputable that it was earlier and was also commercially available and used to transmit public broadcasting first. Baird would also display the first ever colour broadcast and the first ever high definition broadcast (Though this system was discontinued).

41 min later 6058131 Anonymous (1303562792507.jpg 400x654 158kB)
I'm going to the one to say it: Marx / Engles Lenin leon trotsky Stalin Gorbachev (great success) On the up side we had: Robert Owen (first Socialist) Clement Atlee (decolonised most of the British Empire, founded Israel lol) George Orwell.

42 min later 6058142 Anonymous
>>6058127 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-aaUFbi6u4 ANYONE FROM THE SCOTTISH ENLIGHTENMENT.

43 min later 6058146 Anonymous
The guy who realized you could do some serious damage with gunpowder. Who knows what the world would be like if ancient Chinese had invented milling processes?

44 min later 6058162 Anonymous
>>6058146 Chongs never invented Glass as well, plebs

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Galileo Medici family Fugger family Calvin

49 min later 6058191 Anonymous
Leonardo da Vinci Adam smith. Alexander the great

50 min later 6058198 Anonymous
>>6058142 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-aaUFbi6u4 Hey, i like Lime Cordial, maybe they aren't so bad after all

50 min later 6058200 Anonymous
>>6058162 Didn't this indirectly slow their progress a lot in other areas?

52 min later 6058207 Anonymous
>>6058200 Yup, had to make windows from paper.

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>>6058191 >Leonardo da Vinci I always wonder if he isn't a tad overrated. I mean yeah, his artistic works are beautiful. But did he really change European history?

52 min later 6058210 Anonymous
>>6058200 Like science, because no reading glasses meant the intellectuals had less time in their life to do reading and writing properly.

53 min later 6058216 Anonymous
>>6058209 Changed scientific history.

54 min later 6058223 Anonymous
>>6058209 I use to think this as well until I went to the da Vinci Museum in Milan, and the man is quite the genious when it comes to engineering and biology

55 min later 6058227 Anonymous
>>6057856 The protestant, not the nigger, Amerifat.

58 min later 6058249 Anonymous
>>6058209 Very overrated, actually. If he hadn't been propped up by François Ier, he'd be a relatively unknown figure of the Italian renaissance. Still, most people only recognise overrated characters anyway, like da Vinci, Mozart, Napoleon or Pythagoras... "Merit" is mostly a matter of legend building.

1 hours later 6058267 Anonymous
>>6058142 Shit video though for its incorrect dismissal of both the television and telephone. The fact of the matter is that inventions of great magnitude are seldom the work of a single genius labouring in isolation and the bizarre need to entirely dismiss the contributions of great men to their field over quibbles is very annoying. Baird's television was indeed rendered obsolete in his own lifetime while Bell did indeed draw upon a body of prior experiments to transmit sound - none of which had successfully transmitted comprehensible speech - but what is certainly the case is that both men patented and produced the first functional and viable forms of their respective machine which gives them both a very strong claim that the technology is "theirs". When you're the first to make something work you deserve credit.

1 hours later 6058272 Anonymous
>>6058249 You'd like war and peace, the author shits on the great man theory, specifically Napoleon.

1 hours later 6058277 Anonymous
Nikola Tesla

1 hours later 6058296 Anonymous
Galileo's accomplishments are vastly overrated. Kepler was superior to him and Galileo is pretty much only well-known becuase he got on Pope Urban's bad side. Thomas Aquinas pretty much started the Renaissance. He himself was influenced by Ibn Rushd, who reintroduced Aristotle's works to Europe.

1 hours later 6058303 Anonymous
Da Vinci was the man whose paintings were so beautiful that his art teacher never took up the brush again, no? And in science I'm rather sure he displayed an amount of interest in the mechanism of things that had never been seen before - both in man and machine.

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>>6058296 >Aquinas The Renaissance started in the 13 century now?

1 hours later 6058335 Anonymous
Charles Thomson Rees Wilson. Cloud Chamber.

1 hours later 6058344 Anonymous
>>6058303 Yeah, like all flamboyant and useless "Renaissance men", he had a keen interest in anything and everything. Yet nothing practical ever came of it. Meanwhile, more obscure specialists like Vesalius, Paré, Biringuccio, Palissy or Agricola provided the real advances.

1 hours later 6058347 Anonymous
Da Vinci was a genius, but he didn't actually change anything, pretty much none of his inventions were put into practice or influenced anyone - that's part of what makes him so compelling, the fact that he was essentially an intellectual dead end. He doodled stuff and then either dismissed the idea himself or failed to get funding from his patrons and the end result is pages of mirror-writing and cryptic diagrams of things that never saw the light of day. You can be a genius without actually being influential.

1 hours later 6058356 Anonymous
>>6058216 Roger Bacon was more scientific and he's from your country

1 hours later 6058363 Anonymous
>>6058347 he was more of a symbol of european aspirations, better technology, flight, modern warfare, etc

1 hours later 6058366 Anonymous
D. João II Vasco da Gama

1 hours later 6058372 Anonymous
>>6058267 You deserve credit when you're the one actually bringing something useful to the people. Most people have never heard of Jouffroy d'Abbans or Juan de la Cierva, and I'm fine with that.

1 hours later 6058397 Anonymous
Newton. How come nobody has posted him yet. Changed the world and invented gravity and stuff.

1 hours later 6058403 Anonymous
Al-Mansur. He become ill, went to a monastery where he was "cured thanks to astrology". The thing is, the place was full of lost Greek manuscrits and with the monestery saving the life of the man become very popular spreading the lost knowledge.

1 hours later 6058417 Anonymous
>>6058397 Didn't he introduce quite a few concepts to calculus as well?

1 hours later 6058426 Anonymous
William Gilbert. De Magnete.

1 hours later 6058436 Anonymous
>>6058311 The Renaissance had no real start, it was a culmination of of several different ideas, events and philosophies that rolled on over time. Ultimately, most of what we call the Renaissance was heavily influenced by the ideas that Aquinas and Ibn Rushd brought to the table.

1 hours later 6058447 Anonymous
>>6058417 Newtons big two innovations were the laws of motion and calculus (which it must be said was also invented by Leibniz independently).

1 hours later 6058473 Anonymous
>>6058447 And optics, even though part of his theory was quite off... His alchemical bullshit is best left forgotten, though.

1 hours later 6058510 Anonymous
Arminius Plato

1 hours later 6058543 Anonymous
>>6058344 The Renaissance started mainly because of the large influx of Greeks after the fall of Konstantinopoli

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I'm suprised there hasn't been a lot more suggested names of philosophical thinkers and Roman empire figures.

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>>6058397 >Newton >invented gravity >invented woah! calm down and think about it for a second.

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