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2019-04-21 11:44 70644296 Anonymous (wiki.png 1437x684 75kB)
> 2019 > Not browsing Wikipedia offline What are you gonna do when internet will goes down ?

0 min later 70644303 Anonymous
>>70644296 When the internet actually goes down, what makes you think your computer will still work at that point?

1 min later 70644311 Anonymous
>>70644303 >Not having a generator

1 min later 70644316 Anonymous
probably just going to unplug the router, wait a minute, and plug it back in again

2 min later 70644325 Anonymous
>>70644296 Because internet requires lot more infrastructure than electricity

4 min later 70644362 Anonymous
>>70644296 go back to looking up naughty words in the collins precise english dictionary

7 min later 70644391 Anonymous
>>70644311 Tell me what good does a generator do without fuel? Portugal recently had a strike of fuel truck drivers. Within 48 hours a national crisis was declared, the regions affected the worst literally ran out of gasoline etc within 48 hours. Airports ran out of emergency fuel reserves shortly thereafter. If we are talking about a situation where the actual internet collapses everything else will also have collapsed very much including fuel infrastructure. Unless you store tons of fuel in your basement or live in a place where solar is a valid option it literally doesn't matter anymore if you have Wikipedia on your now glorified rock.

9 min later 70644406 Anonymous
>>70644391 That's why there are batteries and solar panels

12 min later 70644442 Anonymous
>>70644406 As I said there aren't very many regions on earth where solar panels are a valid option. And batteries need upkeep and repairs that in such a end of the world scenario are pretty much impossible for the average person to perform even if they have the entirety of Wikipedia at their hands. And even if you have knowledge the parts themselves will be a much bigger problem. If you want Wikipedia after the end of civilisation you need to print it or chisel it in stone.

12 min later 70644446 Anonymous
>>70644316 heh

19 min later 70644535 Anonymous
>>70644442 There will be people with the means and access to produce electricity and at the least I might have a chance to be under their protection with backup of Wikipedia and technical know hows. This probably only applies to long-term-everything-has-gone-to-sh it situations.

20 min later 70644549 Anonymous
>>70644303 Just like it does now, when there's no electric let alone internet. >>70644296 Get the full torrent with images and everything.

24 min later 70644604 Anonymous
>>70644535 But still what do you do when drives fail? Hard drive production post collapse will be literally impossible as will be basically everything else we take as granted today. Most regions on earth don't even have the access to rare earths etc. And I don't see why they shouldn't kill you and take the PC anyways. Honestly post collapse will be a very boring very shit place, if you want to go for long term survival I'd recommend survival books or maybe even a ultra low power laptop with solar panels (again if that is an option in your region) and most importantly learning skills now and not when everything has already gone to shit. Cause when you have useful knowledge people are much more likely to protect you.

27 min later 70644639 Anonymous
>>70644296 What font is that?

30 min later 70644680 Anonymous
>>70644604 Books are definitely better but can only fit so much. If world doesn't get fixed in the time drives all fail, world doesn't deserve the knowledge Wikipedia has. Drives aren't that bad, they will last long enough with enough copies.

31 min later 70644688 Anonymous
I will read a fucking book. And wikipedia sucks anyways.

31 min later 70644694 Anonymous
Not OP here, but Kiwix can run on Android as well. English Wikipedia is getting to big to carry in a common microSD tho.

32 min later 70644697 Anonymous
>>70644639 https://github.com/source-foundry/H ack

36 min later 70644756 Anonymous (file.png 660x467 79kB)
>>70644697 Thanks onii-chan

36 min later 70644757 Anonymous
>>70644680 Well in a scenario where the backbone of the internet goes down I doubt we'll have it fixed within 10-20 years. Basically everything relies on importing goods that we can't produce locally, these transports rely on petrol and the internet. Basically in such a scenario shit is so fucked I wouldn't worry about having Wikipedia on my homelab anymore.

42 min later 70644821 Anonymous
>>70644757 Humans lived before long distance communication. Even if government can't handle it, there will be pirates importing and exporting things.

52 min later 70644929 Anonymous
>>70644821 You massively underestimate just how reliant we are on petrochemical fertilisers etc and how difficult even today with working infrastructure and modern technology it is to get to those fossil fuels. The world population would decline dramatically seriously look up the Haber-Bosch Process and the history of petrochemical fertilisers especially in relation to human population. On top of that I doubt many people know how to farm, leading to even more deaths. It would probably take decades before we have organised societies again. And imports and exports how we are used to them today won't be possible. It'd be much more small scale and take weeks to get from place to place without planes, cars, ships. Production is a whole other thing. So many of our modern comforts and products rely on parts that are literally impossible to produce without computers because the fault tolerance is so low. Bigger a problem still is that when we collapse to the point of the internet shutting down for good infrastructure will deteriorate dramatically and quickly cause who would repair shit when you are in a life or death situation? tl;dr if we (globally) collapse so bad that society breaks down it will be over for good this time because there are no more easily attainable fossil fuels left to jump start a second industrial revolution.

1 hours later 70645022 Anonymous
>>70644929 Fuck. So, food, water filtration, shelter and post-apocalypse political skills are bigger priority. I wonder how long radios last, they should be very useful since infrastructure required is little to none as long as device works, radios use lot less power than other techs.

1 hours later 70645027 Anonymous
>>70644296 Probably read a book

1 hours later 70645044 Anonymous
I ctrl + f'd "gb" and "mb" and no one's mentioned filesize yet. How large is the entire wikipedia archive, compressed, including images and whatever media files?

1 hours later 70645063 Anonymous
>>70645044 > https://www.kiwix.org/en/downloads/ kiwix-content-packages/

1 hours later 70645071 Jordan
How do I mirrored wikipedia

1 hours later 70645085 Anonymous
>>70645044 https://download.kiwix.org/zim/

1 hours later 70645095 Anonymous
>>70645022 Short wave radios are fucking amazing. Not even the EMP from a nuclear explosion can take them out. They are our best bet for post collapse (however that collapse might look like) communications. The biggest immediate problem would be surviving the chaos, immediately followed by securing clean drinkable water and food. Depending on where you live that can be really easy or nigh impossible. Shelter will be abundant in most places. Farming is hard, especially organic farming without petrochemical fertilisers and pesticides etc. I'd say the most critical skills will be outdoors survival without any helping tools, botanic and medical knowledge, "people skills" to sum a lot of things up. Look up the rule of three. 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. The biggest problem is that without petrochemical fertilisers etc 7 billion people is far beyond critical mass and can't even be mentioned in the same conversation as sustainable amount of people. Society will break down to a more medieval pre industrial civilisation state, with most people farmers to feed everyone.

1 hours later 70645111 Anonymous
>>70645071 Tool: https://download.kiwix.org/release/ kiwix-tools/ Data: >>70645085

1 hours later 70645117 Anonymous
>>70645063 >>70645085 Neat. Thanks anons

1 hours later 70645120 Anonymous
>>70644296 >internet goes down. >go outside. >ride bike. >get /fit/. >quit being a loser. >get a qt gf. >make folks proud of me. >get a good job. >become Chad. Internet comes back on. >quickly revert back to old ways and bring massive amounts of shame back on myself by browsing 4chan again as usual.

1 hours later 70645127 Jordan
>>70645111 I um I didn't uh expect an answer So umm thanks I guess haha

1 hours later 70645149 Anonymous
>>70644929 tfw Hermann Kahn was right

1 hours later 70645155 Anonymous
>>70644296 I do have kiwix on my phone. I like to read random pages when I'm on the train.

1 hours later 70645197 Anonymous
>>70645149 Unironically if only he knew how bad things really would be. But yes he was so right about so many things it's admirable and absolutely horrifying at the same time. Absolutely brilliant mind.

1 hours later 70645238 Anonymous
>>70645095 Thanks for the learns anon, didn't know how dependent we are on fertilizers.

1 hours later 70645242 Anonymous
>>70644296 >browsing a fake news left biased website I want my source of information to be unbiased.

1 hours later 70645292 Anonymous
>>70645238 Well yeah people often argue about the most world changing invention of all time but in my mind there is no argument to be made for anything besides the Haber-Bosch Process and Petrochemical fertilisers. Population literally exploded thanks to that and changed our society from almost exclusively farmers to the industrial and now service based society we are today. Fascinating but with horrifying implications at the same time. Glad you enjoyed the read though.

1 hours later 70645322 Anonymous
>What are you going to do when the internet goes down? Have accurate facts and relevant information instead of wikipedia. I already have many books, old books/ dictionaries aren't spacejewed.

1 hours later 70645360 Anonymous
>>70645322 Millions of searchable domain specific articles vs your bookshelf

1 hours later 70645368 Anonymous
>>70644296 if internet goes down why the fuck would i browse wikipedia ?

1 hours later 70645575 Anonymous
>>70645360 Methods of growing food for your region, making gunpowder and certain medicine, machining, edible and medicinal plants identification, medical care and procedures, electronic repair/troubleshooting and construction, etc. vs. glossing over subjects and socjus definitions of gender

2 hours later 70646028 Anonymous
>>70644296 >What are you gonna do when internet will goes down ? Enjoy a better life.

4 hours later 70647098 Anonymous
If the internet goes down I have a lot more problems than not being able to browse wikipedia, losing my job and get starved for one. So who gives a shit.

4 hours later 70647263 Anonymous
>>70644303 an e-reader and solar charger stored in a faraday cage.

4 hours later 70647284 Anonymous
I will laugh at all the retards that are completely dependent on it.

4 hours later 70647321 Anonymous
>>70645095 Reverting to a Medieval state is probably a tad bit overkill. More likely it would revert back to a late 19th early 20th century level technology. Certainly supremely complex manufacturing processes like computer chip making would be out of the question for a number of years but simple things like a steam powered vehicle is something a hobbyist metal worker could put together. I think people would be surprised at how fast society would be capable of putting itself back together even if every major city was wiped off the map. Provided there was no problems from fallout and linger radiation the world would get basic services back up within a decade and probably be at parity with pre-event technology within 30-40 years.

4 hours later 70647342 Anonymous
My internet goes down all the time, and it has never made me want to read wikipedia articles to pass the time.

4 hours later 70647390 Anonymous
>>70644296 I wish the internet would go down. I had this fantasy of building a local network to span my town so that we could share files and post on a local image board and stuff. Nobody was into it so I canned it, but if the internet went down then everyone would be fine with me stringing cables all over the place to share my massive hard drive full of movies, music, TV shows and pr0n. I could get everyone else involved in a little community and maybe eventually connect to the local networks of other cities too so we could rebuild a true large scale internet.

4 hours later 70647473 Anonymous
>>70644391 exercise generator you'll need to get /fit/ to survive in this new world, so why not power your shit like that

4 hours later 70647482 Anonymous
>>70647390 Nobody was into it because you're a stupid smelly autistic faggot. Go take a shower.

4 hours later 70647500 Anonymous
>>70647482 Nobody was into it, but they would be if there was no alternative.

5 hours later 70647594 Anonymous
>>70647321 Not that anon, but Medieval describes a social arrangement and not just a time period. It started in western Europe because of the social breakdown caused by the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Roads, law, education and order collapsed and left most of the continent isolated. In the chaos, individuals who were able to rally sufficient force to defend their land became kings, and their retainers were lords. The kings often had little in the way of capital though, so they couldn't just pay people to fight for them. So they instead gave pieces of their land to retainers in exchange for an oath of fealty. Those without land, the peasants, who then work the lord's land in exchange for housing and protection. Medieval society was built entirely upon the collapse of previous order. And we would likely revert to it if something catastrophic happened.

5 hours later 70647660 Anonymous
Any good books on how to survive when the shit hits the fan?

5 hours later 70647687 Anonymous
>>70647594 What you're describing is Feudalism. Medieval is derived from the Latin "medium aevum" which means Middle Age. Medieval is a certain time period in European history. Feudalism is the governmental structures in place, and it wasn't uniform across Europe.

5 hours later 70647695 Anonymous
>>70647660 Just be yourself

5 hours later 70647709 Anonymous
>>70644296 >Kikepedia

5 hours later 70647720 Anonymous
>>70647695 fucking kek

5 hours later 70647721 Anonymous
>>70647695 That's the reason why I was asking in the first place.

5 hours later 70647781 Anonymous (soc.png 137x124 29kB)
>>70647695

5 hours later 70647820 Anonymous
>>70644303 >not having a hot spare buried underground

7 hours later 70648689 Anonymous
>>70647660 There's plenty of different books on all sorts of things, what environment. Short term (emergency preparedness) food, water, shelter like normal. Long term, if you're by yourself you're dead is what everyone says.

11 hours later 70650088 Anonymous (1280px-Conan_Stevens_(2012).jpg 1280x1920 216kB)
>>70644296 If the internet "goes down" I don't think that being unable access wikipedia is going to be your biggest problem m8.

12 hours later 70650376 Anonymous
>>70644296 *shoots your autistic ass and steals your generators/fuel* Yeah okay retard.

13 hours later 70650674 Anonymous
>>70644296 I once downloaded a dump of the enwiki article database and configured my own MediaWiki instance to point to it. This was about 10 years ago. I'd say the database is too big to do this now.

13 hours later 70650698 Anonymous
come at me internets I have the gentoomen library

13 hours later 70650779 Anonymous
>>70647660 learn how to work and play nice with others

13 hours later 70651114 Anonymous
>>70650779 >"Don't Be A Cunt" : The Post.

14 hours later 70651225 Anonymous
>>70644535 >backup of Wikipedia Why would the collective ramblings of a bunch of underemployed purple haired SJW trannys and various US government assets hold any value?

14 hours later 70651355 Anonymous
>>70644391 >>70644296 Just put it on e-reader 1month of battery, in which time you'll probably figure out how to charge it

16 hours later 70652480 Anonymous
>>70647390 See WUGs, community networks, etc. NYCmesh. Ubiquiti. You can build a cheap solar powered network and share files/communicate offline & online. Ignore the other fuckwit.

19 hours later 70654090 Anonymous
>>70647263 Not a bad idea

19 hours later 70654143 Anonymous
>>70647263 this e-readers spend next to nothing in terms of energy

19 hours later 70654435 Anonymous
>>70644442 >As I said there aren't very many regions on earth where solar panels are a valid option LOL. Stopped right there. I don't read brainlet posts.

19 hours later 70654480 Anonymous
>>70644296 Nothing, Wikipedia is shitty circlejerk now.

19 hours later 70654486 Anonymous (wikipedia.png 1482x873 181kB)
>>70644296 >implying I don't My parents live in a quiet little mountain town with shitty internet, I always go prepared.

20 hours later 70654950 Anonymous
>>70654480 Proof please.

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