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2019-05-17 09:45 70994555 Anonymous (Screenshot_20190517_204420.jpg 1080x1548 256kB)
The botnet has a list of every purchase you have made, ever.
Check yours here
http://myaccount.google.com/purchas es
1 min later 70994576 Anonymous
Thanks for the pic
19 min later 70994782 Anonymous
>>70994555
lol. i switched to proton mail for this reason. i had rather pay for email than use gmail. remeber if its free you are the product.
21 min later 70994797 Anonymous
It has infos from ebay, steam and the play store for me. Spread out over three accounts. 5 things in total.
Well, guess who is changin his email address for a few websites to cock.li
22 min later 70994813 Anonymous
>>70994797
>cock.li
enjoy getting sending emails straight to someone's spam folder
23 min later 70994820 Anonymous
i checked and it's only 3 things
44 min later 70995029 Anonymous
Fml..
1 hours later 70995219 Anonymous
Everytime I ask /g/ how to increase privacy you guys just say that everything is equally bad.
People here say Protonmail is not really secure and bans people with non PC political opinions.
1 hours later 70995225 Anonymous
my purchase history seems only include just a handful of items from ebay and one of the biggest store on my country but nothing else
1 hours later 70995270 Anonymous
Shows my gay amazon purchases because I have those emails in my inbox yeah don't care, but I do want to get off google services for good including email. Dunno how good protonmail is but for now I moved most of my shit to it.
1 hours later 70995279 Anonymous
>>70994555
Thanks for the tip /b/ro
now I don't have to remember my purchases
1 hours later 70995280 Anonymous
>>70995219
>newfaggot detected
Just use Google ffs. We aren’t here to do your research for you.
1 hours later 70995292 Anonymous
Not really surprising, don't see why you would want to delete this list if you still continue to use gmail. Not like deleting it would make google forget it, it'll still be in gmail.
1 hours later 70995307 Anonymous
It's just a buncha hand tossed pizzas from dominos for me
1 hours later 70995308 Anonymous
>>70994555
scared your mum will see your dragon dildo purchases?
This is nothing more than purchases parsed from your order/purchase confirmation email.
What exacly is the problem here?
You trusted them enough to hold all your emails, how is compiling this list to only purchases a problem?
They are not tracking online purchases,its only extract from emails.
Deleting purchase email removes item from this list.
>>70994782
and how can you be sure proton is not parsing your emails?
>>70995292
deleting emails removes items from this list
1 hours later 70995320 Anonymous
>>70995280
But most sources aren't very critical. After using google I thought protonmail was good, I thought vpns were good and tor was good. Now I think it's all useless.
1 hours later 70995324 Anonymous
>>70995219
Tutanota
Also pick the lesser of two evils.
1 hours later 70995342 Anonymous
>>70995308
>deleting emails removes items from this list
Sure, I doubt google would delete that info about you if you don't go through some GDPR effort or something. Just saying that people who see this list and are appalled or something are dipshits, it's not new info for google.
1 hours later 70995348 Anonymous
>>70995225
because it only recognize some stores order numbers and only as long as you have email in your mailbox
1 hours later 70995379 Anonymous
>>70995342
>>deleting emails removes items from this list
>Sure, I doubt google would delete that info about you
this is more general question - are your emails and info gained from there really deleted when you delete emails. I doubt it.
1 hours later 70995402 Anonymous
>>70994555
this is quite cool.
When I use gmail I know jews can see everything anyway, so I'm a good goy on it
1 hours later 70995403 Anonymous (03a.jpg 600x454 40kB)
Google is even worse at tracking me than I expected.
Literally hundreds of purchases from over 30 different stores over the years and what does this give me?
Less than two dozen buys from one store. And it's not even all the purchases I've made in that particular site.
I am amazed someone pays google for this information, for they are incompetent.
1 hours later 70995409 Anonymous (1395370225946.jpg 720x720 94kB)
>You don't have any purchases
Only signing into Google once in a fortnight master race.
1 hours later 70995502 Anonymous (why no buy.jpg 707x540 14kB)
>>70994555
>checked
Do you idiots actually not log out of google?
1 hours later 70995520 Anonymous
>>70995502
If you're logged in or not is actually irrelevant.
1 hours later 70995549 Anonymous
it only tracks the purchases that i made in the websites where i used my gmail account. and that is only one website. fuck all the brainlets in this thread.
1 hours later 70995559 Anonymous
>>70994782
Proton is free
1 hours later 70995569 Anonymous
>>70995520
Then I should have thousands of entries so either it does matter, my profile data is hiding actual data or >>70995403
1 hours later 70995594 Anonymous
>>70994797
This is why you don't use Google sign-in on any site, full stop. Create a username/password and store it in a password manager. Being lazy lets these companies get even more data out of you.
1 hours later 70995595 Anonymous (Screenshot_20190517-171337.png 1080x1920 146kB)
Anyone remembers that Samsung Play Store exploit some dude here found? I got like $800 credit I used to buy apps like mad for like 5 years.
1 hours later 70995602 Anonymous
>>70995569
>Then I should have thousands of entries
On what basis? I'm just saying you don't need to be constantly logged in for this to do it's job, whether you have entries or not doesn't detract from this. I'm not wrong, dipshit.
1 hours later 70995619 Anonymous (purchase.png 675x451 10kB)
>>70995502
this
1 hours later 70995631 Anonymous
>>70995594
it has nothing to do with that, its just gmail parsing your shit
1 hours later 70995648 Anonymous (1515706877375.jpg 498x456 49kB)
Don't click that link. Google will know what you've been posting on 4channel.
1 hours later 70995651 Anonymous
>>70995569
>Then I should have thousands of entries so either it does matter, my profile data is hiding actual data
>>70995594
>This is why you don't use Google sign-in on any site, full stop.
Its just email parsing brainlets. Has nothing to do with sign-in or loging in or out.
1 hours later 70995659 Anonymous (8d4.jpg 601x601 123kB)
>>70994555
>Using gmail for anything in 2007+12
1 hours later 70995689 Anonymous
>>70995602
>On what basis?
Well I use one of my google mail as a contact to buy shit from websites so I should have tons of transactions, especially ebay. So either you're wrong or my browser security anti-spy shit is top notch or...ect
1 hours later 70995710 Anonymous
>>70995219
G Suite
1 hours later 70995719 Anonymous
>>70994555
mine only has shit I bought with google pay
1 hours later 70995725 Anonymous
>>70995520
False, this happens if you use Google sign-in on websites. I'm always logged in and mine shows 0 purchases. I buy shit online all the time
>>70995595
based
1 hours later 70995727 Anonymous
>>70995689
Or google didn't pick that shit up for you specifically, doesn't mean that this only works if you're constantly logged in. Shut the fuck up with your anecdotal evidence.
1 hours later 70995730 Anonymous (2019-05-17_232642.png 530x368 37kB)
>>70995648
it already does, you silly nugger
protip: reCAPTCHA
1 hours later 70995732 Anonymous
>>70994555
>myaccount
I don't use anything google related other than reCaptcha. Everything else is blocked on the hosts level.
1 hours later 70995747 Anonymous
>>70994555
The trips of truth 555
1 hours later 70995758 Anonymous
>>70995725
>False, this happens if you use Google sign-in on websites.
Never used that, but still have transactions. They're parsed from gmail. Also never logged in. So with you and me being never logged in, and it showing for me but not you means it's irrelevant (because it parses your gmail).
It's very open about how this fucking works mate.
1 hours later 70995760 Anonymous
>>70994555
ok so what? I have. I have setup my stores to sent a notification to gmail
1 hours later 70995773 Anonymous
>>70995651
No it's not u retard. Ive bought tons of shit under my gmail and none of it shows up on that purchases page. not even stuff i bought with google pay
1 hours later 70995796 Anonymous
>>70995725
>So with you and me being never logged in
I literally just said I'm always logged in though
1 hours later 70995799 Anonymous
>>70995773
It fucking tells me it got it from which specific email. That is totally how it works, it just borked for you.
1 hours later 70995802 Anonymous
>>70995727
You should shut the fuck up with your fake bullshit
1 hours later 70995827 Anonymous
>>70995796
Assuming you meant to reply to >>70995758 since you quoted me.
I know. That's what I meant. With you (the person that's always logged in), and me (the person that's never logged in) ...
1 hours later 70995876 Anonymous (ttt.jpg 1357x955 59kB)
>>70995773
>No it's not u retard.
Maybe you should check it first before commenting tard
1 hours later 70995896 Anonymous (0.0.0.0.png 312x200 2kB)
1 hours later 70995909 Anonymous (1458885603898.jpg 1000x1000 152kB)
servers in germany, good luck with that
1 hours later 70995929 Anonymous
>>70994555
Stallman was right all along.
2 hours later 70995967 Anonymous
>>70995308
> it's perfectly fine for a corporation to go through your private mail to harvest data for its botnet. A-OK.
you wot m8? that's unacceptable at any level.
>>70995308
>and how can you be sure proton is not parsing your emails?
because all the mail sent and received by a user's account is encrypted using a user's key. only the key holder can read any messages stored in their inbox/outbox/sent. if you're emailing someone outside of protonmail, the message is decrypted and sent normally. if you were sending mail from one protonmail account to another, it's 100% encrypted. nobody can see anything without the keys.
2 hours later 70995988 Anonymous (idf-logo-israel-military-shirt.jpg 1340x1520 185kB)
Google ads always give me ads with Ramadan offers I'm not even Muslim lol
2 hours later 70995999 Anonymous
Use Tutanota
2 hours later 70996018 Anonymous
>>70995967
>> it's perfectly fine for a corporation to go through your private mail to harvest data for its botnet. A-OK.
>you wot m8? that's unacceptable at any level.
That was always part of the deal. You give them your mails, they read it. If you don't want that, don't give them your mails.
And you realize that emails arrive at protonmail unencrypted, right? They would have the possibility to read those mails from stores before they encrypt them for you.
2 hours later 70996035 Anonymous
>shit I bought last week listed as something bought in 2018
wut
2 hours later 70996089 Anonymous
>>70996018
>And you realize that emails arrive at protonmail unencrypted, right?
no shit, /g/enius? the only scanning they do is for spam or viruses before the mail is encrypted using the recipient's key.
https://protonmail.com/privacy-poli cy
2 hours later 70996116 Anonymous
>>70996089
And that just loops back to the original question the other guy had, how can you be sure that they're only scanning for spam and viruses before encrypting? Your answer was bullshit, you can't be sure.
2 hours later 70996120 Anonymous
>>70995988
jews, muslims, they're all the same sand people.
2 hours later 70996128 Anonymous
>>70996116
did you read the privacy policy at all, you illiterate fucking retard?
2 hours later 70996141 Anonymous
If they know what I bought, why the fuck do they keep showing me ads for the thing I bought for months? Do they think I'm some kind of vacuum cleaner collector?
2 hours later 70996149 Anonymous
>>70994555
> You don't have any purchases
Probably a US thing with its Amazon.
2 hours later 70996157 Anonymous (8361001106oFGAM.jpg 869x858 166kB)
>>70994555
>still having a goolag account
I bet you also use arsebook like a braindead boomer
2 hours later 70996160 Anonymous
>>70994555
>replace gmail with protonmail
>"wtf is your mail address? is that a scam?"
2 hours later 70996162 Anonymous
>>70994555
>not creating multiple google accounts for your devices
Make it difficult for them
2 hours later 70996167 Anonymous
>>70994555
Nothing is listed on that link, because I disabled it all years ago
However they still save it, I'm sure. It's just not listed.
2 hours later 70996337 Anonymous (Screenshot_20190517-162050.png 1024x2048 381kB)
Great! Google knows I'm a dick sucking faggot now.
2 hours later 70996378 Anonymous (1536723198643.jpg 250x250 23kB)
>Don't use gmail for my amazon account
How does it know?
2 hours later 70996385 Anonymous
>>70995308
>and how can you be sure proton is not parsing your emails?
they literally can't
2 hours later 70996405 Anonymous
>>70994555
>logged purchases go back to 2007
jesus
2 hours later 70996409 Anonymous
>>70994555
>only use Gmail for sites I expect to send spam to me
>all the info they have on me is 8 years worth of pizza
Eat shit, Google.
2 hours later 70996412 Anonymous
>You don't have any purchases
its almost as if setting up privacy settings stops this shit
2 hours later 70996421 Anonymous
>>70996160
just use your included @pm.me address, it looks less retarded.
2 hours later 70996428 Anonymous
>>70996337
>32-43
vomiting japanese game giel
2 hours later 70996433 Anonymous
>>70996089
>the only scanning they do is for spam or viruses before the mail is encrypted
this is exactly what we are talking about - spam scanning is usually keywords + some context parsing - so exactly what gmail is doing with this purchases parsing
2 hours later 70996437 Anonymous
>>70996412
Just because they don't record it FOR YOUR PERSONAL ACCESS, doesn't mean they don't record it at all. Windows 8.1 played this trick on millions.
3 hours later 70996871 Anonymous (Kik-ChasteSissySteph_7.jpg 343x789 212kB)
>>70996428
It's my hips, not my waist.
3 hours later 70996883 Anonymous (d6bd5536-bda1-4173-92b3-5cf46e8260b0..png 419x249 3kB)
>>70996337
3 hours later 70996940 Anonymous
>>70996871
>waist size 32-43
3 hours later 70997086 Anonymous
>>70994555
They know I bought some soap last summer. Better flee to the middle of nowhere and live underground.
4 hours later 70997109 Anonymous
HONK! HONK!
4 hours later 70997156 Anonymous
>>70994555
this is actually what is causing me to move off of gmail. I've already moved all my online purchase accounts to a different email for this very reason.
purchase history is one of the most descriptive and lucrative sets of data about a person you can sell on the internet. Makes sense (((they're))) scraping it with no way to easily delete it.
4 hours later 70997296 Anonymous
>>70996871
Mmmm.. more?
#nohomo
4 hours later 70997356 Anonymous
That's why I run my own email. It's not feasible for me to do "Big Data" on myself. Heck, I even delete the logs after a few months.
Gmail can't even compete. Too bad I have to use it for school/work (and my work forces Gmail's bastardized XOAuth2 for "security" reasons).
4 hours later 70997378 Anonymous
thank op i was looking for the date for one of my purchases 3 years ago
4 hours later 70997390 Anonymous
All this has for me is newegg, steam and some occasional times I went to pizza hut. Hardly representative of my spending habits.
4 hours later 70997449 Anonymous
>>70994555
it actually has barely anything thankfully
4 hours later 70997502 Anonymous (Untitled-1.png 702x824 65kB)
yikes
4 hours later 70997528 Anonymous
>>70997502
Go drink some bleach, shit for brains.
4 hours later 70997547 Anonymous
>>70997528
>knowing what those are from
You first.
4 hours later 70997615 Anonymous (you're face.png 512x514 39kB)
Everyone of these threads, what you guys truly are is on display. Lincucks are the funniest, all talk.
>>70995502
No, I'm logged in right now, I'm always logged in. Google still doesn't have anything because I'm not a incompetent.
5 hours later 70997722 Anonymous (serveimage.jpg 1620x1080 135kB)
>>70994555
Is it summer time already?
>The botnet has a list of every purchase you have made, ever.
Thats just the tip of a really really large ice burg.
5 hours later 70997794 Anonymous
>>70996409
correlate times of purchase with locations and chosen flavors/order size + local weather conditions, tv programming etc etc... and I reckon a top class AI/ML algo would know more about you than you would like!
5 hours later 70997842 Anonymous (serveimage.jpg 2500x2500 233kB)
>>70997750
Careful you don't cut yourself with that edge!
5 hours later 70997907 Anonymous (scrot[19-05-17@18:07:04].png 340x300 9kB)
>>70994555
>the botnet doesn't know about my dragon dildo purchases
Thank fuck
5 hours later 70998060 Anonymous
>>70995659
This, /g/ is all bark and no bite.
6 hours later 70998602 Anonymous
>>70995324
always picking the lesser of two evils makes the greater evil inevitable
self host.
6 hours later 70998645 Anonymous
>>70998602
False. Otherwise Clinton would be president in the states.
Self hosting is not a great solution, I want people to receive my emails not end up in their spam or being blocked. The more you use lesser known ones the more popular they will become. Your self hosting email will never become popular and will always be in spam.
6 hours later 70998653 Anonymous
Any EU citizen can just tell Google to delete everything. If they don't then they risk a fine equal to up to 5% of their global revenue.
6 hours later 70998712 Anonymous (Capture.png 718x181 7kB)
Alright. I had accepted that I was a lazy normie and actually disconnecting from the botnet was too much of a hassle. This...this is fucked though. I'm jumping ship.
6 hours later 70998728 Anonymous
>>70995320
Protonmail is good unless you post on the internet that you want ethnic cleansing to happen, tor is good if used correctly, its the only way to browse .onion sites, and most vpns are bad but there are a few good ones, just look for proof of no logs being kept.
6 hours later 70998767 Anonymous (smug, perfect, pizza, black guy, smiling.gif 392x400 1404kB)
>>70995307
7 hours later 70999316 Anonymous
>>70998645
if you cant self host, dont use email. if you can, then offer it as a service to people you know, and help it get reputation and stay atop the bullshit filters the monopolies use to perpetuate themselves.
there are all kinds of niche ecrypted or at least decentralized messaging programs that are easy for idiots to use, and pefectly suitable for keeping in touch for the few autists willing to install that shit just to talk to you - who in so doing, demonstrate that they are the only ones worth talking to.
If people would rather embrace the "convenience" of serfdom to botnet corporations than endure the indignity of freedom for their "friends" - that only means that they were never really your friend to begin with.
but returning to the "popularity" and spam bullshit - necessarily just one more person self-hosting makes that option "more popular" and less tenable for the botnet to censor. but by refusing to self-host, you make that choice less popular, and less tenable for those that defy the crowd. no man is an island, all actions have externalities, its a vicious circle, self-fullfilling prophecy, etc.
your whinging about convenience is actively harmful to EVERYONE - idealist or ordinary people alike, as you enable society to continuously erode. if you arent part of the solution youre part of the problem.
8 hours later 70999375 Anonymous
>>70994555
Only has a couple videos I got off YouTube.
8 hours later 70999391 Anonymous
>>70998602
Self hosting is such a pain. You are forced to do everything Google wants for your mail to even arrive and then some business message you had to receive randomly gets dropped due to some dumb Exchange policy.
Never doing this shit again.
8 hours later 70999438 Anonymous
>>70998728
Put it in concrete terms:
John Q Random McNobody says something "offensive", it gets blown out of proportion in some massive contrived "online scandal", and his (paid) account gets deleted.
No refunds. :^)
Should it happen it a public figure - james gunn, drumpf, or whoever, would you defend it then?
Even assuming the essential rightfulness of an arbitrary service termination based on negative attention predicated on a false, libelous or slanderous accusation, out of some perverse exaggeration of "fiduicary duty" of the corporation to it shareholders and an utter lack of social, moral or legal responsiblility anywhere else, does it really sit right with you that they can, with impunity, rob you of the money you paid for services never nrendered, or that they can sieze, and never return the data or property you entrusted to them?
fucking asshat, you can't.
8 hours later 70999452 Anonymous
>>70994555
>list is my 13 daki covers
Why should I worry about this?
8 hours later 70999544 Anonymous
>>70994555
No purchases. Probably because I block all google scripts, and use a throwaway for my youtube account.
8 hours later 70999633 Anonymous
>>70994555
Yeah I noticed a few months back when there was a tthread about posting how much info google has on you from your archive
8 hours later 70999689 Anonymous (1533014955313.jpg 1277x957 154kB)
They are doing this in the most retarded way possible, they look for those emails like "awaiting payment, payment confirmed, your item has been shipped", so they will only know what you bought if you registered your gmail to create your account to buy things.
8 hours later 70999767 Anonymous
>>70996337
>bought far cry new dawn
don't need to read the rest to know you're a fag
9 hours later 70999982 Anonymous
I have never bought an item through the internet
9 hours later 71000053 Anonymous
>>70994555
Are you guys this stupid? When all this smartphone shit started were you not aware this was how it was going to be from the start?
9 hours later 71000093 Anonymous (1548036414974.jpg 308x308 40kB)
>>70998767
I like how thorough your tagging system is but that must be an absolute nightmare for changing/updating tags on individual pictures.
9 hours later 71000169 Anonymous
>>70996128
Not that anon and I'm definitely with you on using Proton, or literally fucking anything else, instead of Google.
But let's be real about privacy policies - they mean nothing. It's equivalent to the company writing "we promise we won't steal your data" on the back of a napkin in crayon.
"Promises" made by corporations to individuals, especially individuals with no money or power, are (except for very specific things that do have legal protection) fundamentally meaningless. You have no way of knowing what they're actually doing, and more importantly you have absolutely no way to force them to comply.
Again - everyone should be using literally any other mail service other than Gmail. But to say *any* of them are 100% definitely trustworthy, is just not realistic.
9 hours later 71000187 Anonymous
>>70994555
Oh, that's pretty handy.
>hundreds of steam cards
9 hours later 71000212 Anonymous
>>70994555
This doesn't even have 1/20th of the shit I've bought. They need to step up their botnet game.
9 hours later 71000233 Anonymous
Duh? They have a list of places you go, things you do, people you talk to, what you talk about, etc etc. Every single email is monitored and parsed.
9 hours later 71000239 Anonymous (1514990066101.jpg 541x583 51kB)
On the subject of moving away from Gmail, what's the best option for receiving (or at least being notified of) emails through Proton on a phone? I'm not sitting at my computer 24/7, so I can't just constantly refresh my inbox.
>>70997156
I'm trying to get off the ride too, fuck Google up and down. What'd you switch to, Proton?
9 hours later 71000246 Anonymous
>>71000169
Except if they get caught not complying, they can be sued.
https://gizmodo.com/teen-sues-apple -for-1-billion-claiming-facial-reco gni-1834239825
9 hours later 71000249 Anonymous
>>70994555
I can't see any of my drug or cash deals though, the latter making up majority of my purchases.
It seems broken, OP. Fix it.
9 hours later 71000259 Anonymous
I run my own email server. It costs money for the electricity (running it on a Pi makes this negligible, but I don't) and the domain but you can do more with a domain and a server than just host email anyway.
It's not for everyone. But if you have any linux CLI experience you should give it a shot.
9 hours later 71000267 Anonymous
why is /g/ composed of giant faggots with 2 brain cells between the lot of you? if you want your privacy respected learn to fucking run your own email server. Don't know how? fucking learn.
9 hours later 71000277 Anonymous
>>70994555
it's just vidya and some PC parts
9 hours later 71000290 Anonymous
>>71000246
True, but there are two big things to consider here.
First:
"If."
Second:
Suing is just the accusation. Getting a successful judgment is an entirely different matter.
You should not trust corporations, ever, anon.
9 hours later 71000293 Anonymous
>>71000267
You can't run a mail server without bending over to Google's and Microsoft Exchange's standards. Spammers ruined everything.
10 hours later 71000328 Anonymous
>>70994555
Oh noez dey no wut I buy online! Det going 2 cum find me Nd take away my Loli porn nd my rights!
10 hours later 71000339 Anonymous
>>70994555
It says I bought roller coaster tycoon 2 4 times
10 hours later 71000387 Anonymous
>>71000339
based
10 hours later 71000409 Anonymous
How is this even legal?
10 hours later 71000464 Anonymous
>>70999316
Self hosting email is a full time job. It's not really something you would want to do if you got other shit to do.
10 hours later 71000472 Christopher
>>70994813
Sad but true
10 hours later 71000474 Anonymous (DELETE THE EMAIL LOL.png 572x306 16kB)
>>70994555
LOL they have literally everything i bought
but why doesnt it surprise me?
google are complete niggers
10 hours later 71000485 Anonymous
>>71000293
why do you work from the flawed assumption that you must be able to reach people trapped within the botnet?
send mail to other people who are self-hosting, like it is supposed to be done.
10 hours later 71000512 Anonymous
>>70994797
vincent reads your cockmails, but its still better than handing it to google
10 hours later 71000525 Anonymous
>>71000293
Oh no! SPF/DKIM/DMARC is so hard!
Protip: It isn't and I can send email to gmail without it hitting spam inboxes now.
10 hours later 71000547 Anonymous
>>71000485
The only 3 persons I know that self host use Exchange.
>>71000525
Don't forget to add an rDNS record which can be a major pain in the ass unless you use a reputable hosting provider.
Oh and if your IP is spamhaus'd you are fucked anyway.
10 hours later 71000561 Anonymous
>>71000547
The entire point of SPF and DKIM is to sign the email with the right IP/domain...
10 hours later 71000576 Anonymous
>>71000561
Exchange just drops the email with no reply when there is no rDNS record. I had to ask one of those 3 to read me his server logs to see why the hell the mails evaporated.
10 hours later 71000609 Anonymous
>>71000576
I've managed to send emails to exchange servers and google before with no problem. It's probably a configuration thing.
11 hours later 71000834 Anonymous (courage.jpg 738x482 30kB)
>>71000464
yes, centralized-decentralized isnt binary, but a continuum
yes, corporations develop and contribute to libre software
yes, most people are too stupid or pressed for time;
but it is always preferable to know (verify, or diy) than to place blind trust in other people.
securing email from spam is trivial
instead of blacklists, just set a whitelist for addresses of people you know through other channels.
if renting a domain/privacy/DDoS mitigation is too burdensome, you could remove dns entirely through e.g. namecoin or hidden services.
email is an ancient protocol, but like irc or unix, that only makes it more adaptable to new technology.
dont mire youself down in some legacy mindset.
11 hours later 71000856 Anonymous
Thats actually pretty cool
11 hours later 71000875 Anonymous (1453839422071.png 622x563 614kB)
the botnet is too much
i can't escape it.
11 hours later 71000911 Anonymous
>>71000875
Lately I've been wondering if it's even worth trying to escape. I feel like fully removing the botnet from your life is pretty much impossible for any functional member of society.
11 hours later 71000971 Anonymous (frog.jpg 225x225 7kB)
>>70994555
It says I have no purchases **shrug**
11 hours later 71001084 Anonymous (1468106659251.png 279x209 94kB)
>>70994555
Wow, it just shows video game purchases and a few amazon ones. All shit I really don't give a shit about. Unfortunate you can't get rid of it
12 hours later 71001122 Anonymous
>>71000293
>>71000525
>>71000547
I run my own mail server from my house using a $15/year VPS as a relay so that I can set my rDNS record and avoid IP blacklists. I set it up in 2014 and at that time I made accounts with all of the major email providers for testing. My mail was not counted as spam by anyone except gmail, even though I followed all of their guidelines to the letter. Once someone responds to one of your messages your mail to that user is no longer counted as spam, so it's not much of a problem for regular contacts, but it does make it difficult to send mail to strangers, like small businesses for example.
12 hours later 71001127 Anonymous
>>71000911
why be a "functional" member of society?
>There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop.
12 hours later 71001147 Anonymous
>open link
>says no purchases
all my invoices can easily be read by Google
12 hours later 71001156 Anonymous
This is unacceptable. Thanks for making me aware
12 hours later 71001240 Anonymous
>>70994555
This is fucking disgusting, jewgle is the true cancer of the internet, a fucking parasite.
12 hours later 71001272 Anonymous
So what? Shady shit should always be bought with cash anyway.
12 hours later 71001373 Anonymous
Mine only shows like 5 purchases. All of which from Amazon. None are any of the absolute plethora of sex toys I've purchased from there though.
12 hours later 71001398 Anonymous
>>70995270
Can you recommend any dildos?
12 hours later 71001450 Anonymous
>>70995909
>servers in germany
Americans literally spied on Merkel's phone and recorded her conversations with other European prime ministers and Secretary General of the UN. Germany is beyond cucked
12 hours later 71001453 Anonymous
>>71001398
depends on what you want. There are shit loads of options and you don't want to cheap out too much or you'll get something with garbage materials.
12 hours later 71001469 Anonymous
>You don't have any purchases
I don't understand, I have Gmail accounts and I'm quite sure I've done at least ten purchases
I've mostly done the most basic things:
-umatrix
-ublock
-IBA opt-out
-Google Analytics Opt-out
-Never signed in a Google account directly to Chromium
-Deactivated any and every history and tracking "feature" in Google dashbooard and Youtube
And I've used Google shopping to sort out prices "curated" by Google
12 hours later 71001493 Anonymous
>>71001469
>-ublock
maybe this
its been less than a year since i installed ublock and i don't have 2019 purchases
12 hours later 71001515 Anonymous
>>70998060
>>71000267
/g/ has long since ceased to be a technology board.
we discuss products, not ideas.
>Technology ("science of craft", from Greek τέχνη, techne, "art, skill, cunning of hand"; and -λογία, -logia[2]) is the collection of techniques, skills, methods, and processes used in the production of goods or services or in the accomplishment of objectives.
>λογία (-logía). Within Greek, the suffix is an -ία (-ía) abstract from λόγος (lógos, “account, explanation, narrative”), itself a verbal noun from λέγω (légō, “I say, speak, converse, tell a story”).
the morons of /g/ have wonderfully redefined it, in fealty to their feudal- corporate overlords to mean the commoditization of "tech culture": the prepackaged products and services, the tribal "identity" markers and status symbols of "techy" lifestyles ... a cargo cult, rather than technology itself.
If you talk about the underlying methods and objectives of a service or product, that's """/pol/""", ""off topic"", or "no fun".
/g/ is a shitposting board anyway :^)
12 hours later 71001526 Anonymous
>>71001469
>>71001493
I use ublock and stuff definitely shows up. You have used gmail for purchases on stores, right? With confirmation emails still being in your gmail?
12 hours later 71001527 Anonymous
>>71001453
I don't know i haven't really thought about it, till you mentioned gay purchases, but do you have something you would goto? or personal favorite?
12 hours later 71001550 Anonymous
>>70995730
doesn't google's connection in pic related ( www.google.com ) only allow google to provide the captcha service, not to track a comment's content?
13 hours later 71001577 Anonymous
>>70998653
How would the EU actually verify the data's been cleansed from all Google servers on the globe?
13 hours later 71001583 Anonymous
>>71001526
yes i use gmail for everything and buy a bunch of shit
13 hours later 71001595 Anonymous
>>71001583
And you haven't deleted those confirmation emails?
13 hours later 71001597 Anonymous (purchases.jpg 529x342 6kB)
>>70997615
Where are those purchases supposed to be tracked from anyway? I've never had to purchase anything from a google store and i doubt aliexpress or eBay are affiliated with them...
13 hours later 71001622 Anonymous
Stallman is fucking right.
13 hours later 71001638 Anonymous
>>71001526
I don't keep confirmation emails so that might be the reason why they haven't record any purchase.
I still lean toward IBA opt-out, Google Analytics Opt-out and deactivating all of their tracking "features"
13 hours later 71001644 Anonymous
>>71001595
i dont delete anything
13 hours later 71001670 Anonymous
>>71001638
>>71001644
Okay, so it's not the confirmation emails not being there that stops it necessarily.
>>71001638
>I still lean toward IBA opt-out, Google Analytics Opt-out and deactivating all of their tracking "features"
I do that though.
13 hours later 71001675 Anonymous
>>70996337
If I bought stuff like this I might be worried
I don't really give a shit if Google knows what I bought from Amazon and Ebay; those companies are already spreading it around no doubt
13 hours later 71001707 Anonymous
Mine literally only has 1 thing from 2016
Bought some chinos i don't even remember
Bought a ton of shit online and get numerous email updates, even form the local post delivering it
I asked show me where for the email and it takes me to some random gmail search with 1000+ messages there as i had backed up SMS to gmail
I've had web activity on only until like recently because of shitty assistant
13 hours later 71001715 Anonymous
>>70997296
Check filename
>u/chastesissystephanie
Yes it's rehedit
13 hours later 71001732 Anonymous
>>71001597
Gmail order confirmations but it seems like it's doing a piss poor job or something has to be turned on which seems unlikely
13 hours later 71001792 Anonymous
>>71001732
Maybe it's because i'm using an old hotmail address as my google account instead of gmail. But digging though your order confirmations, what the hell... That would be an invasion of privacy according to the GDPR.
13 hours later 71001817 Anonymous
>>70994555
It's not perfect, it's missing a lot of stuff.
The Google botnet suck.
13 hours later 71001834 Anonymous
>>71001792
It's in the Google T&Cs that nobody reads and everybody agrees to, infa 88%.
13 hours later 71001838 Anonymous
>>71001792
>That would be an invasion of privacy according to the GDPR.
Except it wouldn't...
They're literally showing you your email in a different UI, if you click the ? it says "where is this from" then opens Gmail to show you then email. The email you have with google, and the email you authorised to be sent to you by entering your email. They're not harvesting anything
13 hours later 71001849 Anonymous
>>71000512
cock.li domain alone has over 190k mail accounts, I seriously doubt you are that interesting.
13 hours later 71001947 Anonymous
>delete email to remove entry
>entry is still there
Time to find a new junk email provider. Google is nothing but an information dispensary for advertisers and the government.
And to think the soulless fucks are creating the software that runs on most phones. Devices that have mics and cameras attached no less. What a hoot.
13 hours later 71001973 Anonymous
>>70995280
not helpful.
>>70995219
>>70995320
>>70995324
>>70994782
>>70995710
>>70998728
>>71000169
>>71000239
>>71001240
>>70998728
>>71000875
>>71000911
>I feel like fully removing the botnet from your life is pretty much impossible for any functional member of society.
https://spreadprivacy.com/how-to-re move-google/
How to Live without Google
https://restoreprivacy.com/google-a lternatives/
similar list of google product alternatives as above
https://medium.com/s/story/how-i-fu lly-quit-google-and-you-can-too-4c2 f3f85793a/
13 hours later 71002025 Anonymous (lol.png 880x1120 58kB)
seems it stopped as soon as i got aggressive with privacy way back
nice try tho
14 hours later 71002086 Anonymous
>>71001973
Thanks anon
14 hours later 71002112 Anonymous
>>71001973
Email is the biggest problem though, and the options listed there don't necessarily seem more privacy friendly. Sure they claim to be good, but anybody could claim that.
14 hours later 71002135 Anonymous
>>70994555
>and its hard to delete
They have a delete option for everything on there.
14 hours later 71002167 Anonymous
>>71002135
I believe you'd have to go through the whole list, which is difficult. And it's impossible to opt out of future additions.
Though I didn't bother to try and delete everything because it's pointless.
14 hours later 71002302 Anonymous
>>71002112
i have not tried most of those options, just posted that to put it out there.
however the recommendations are not claims from the services themselves, they are written by the independent authors of each of those webpages.
14 hours later 71002333 Anonymous
>>71002302
Well, the first author is duckduckgo, which I also don't trust. They also suggest fastmail mostly, which the other one doesn't mention at all, so that seems shady. But still, some decent recommendations I think. It would just be such a fucking hassle to switch email accounts for everything.
And thanks for the recommendation lists, always helpful.
14 hours later 71002409 Anonymous
>>71001973
Based whitepill Anon.
Unless you're forced to for work or schook, there is absolutely zero reason to use any Google services whatsoever nowadays.
You don't even have to give up as much convenience as you think: there are viable alternatives for nearly every service they offer now.
14 hours later 71002439 Anonymous
>>70999316
>If people would rather embrace the "convenience" of serfdom to botnet corporations than endure the indignity of freedom for their "friends" - that only means that they were never really your friend to begin with.
They were really your friends but you abandoned them to join a cult because you were brainwashed.
14 hours later 71002445 Anonymous (23e5ec89c5fa02ca004eb1156a9caae0.jpg 1280x1816 903kB)
>>70994555
>having a google account in 2020 - 1
14 hours later 71002480 Anonymous
>>70994555
>has almost nothing
cool
14 hours later 71002526 Anonymous
>>71000512
Sure, but while I doubt he actually does, I respect him for being honest about not being able to guarantee he doesn't.
Besides, if your emails are unencrypted, you should assume by default that your message *is* visible to your provider (because it is) and they *will* read it in some way.
14 hours later 71002543 Anonymous
>>70994782
Hope you use Gmail for job applications. I toss out any resumes with proton mail on it.
14 hours later 71002544 Anonymous
>>70994555
thanks for the post OP, this feature is very helpfull!
15 hours later 71002658 Anonymous
>>70998602
>always picking the lesser of two evils makes the greater evil inevitable
Citation needed.
15 hours later 71002662 Anonymous
>>71000239
You should keep gmail for google stuff. Different accounts for different stuff, outlook email for microsoft, school email for school, work email...etc. My phone and computer tells me if I have a email, I don't manually check any of them. Use a email app not browser, and literally write down the accounts info in a little notebook and pop it in your safe.
15 hours later 71002669 Anonymous
>>71002543
why? and would you please name any better-privacy gmail alternatives that you would accept as an employer?
15 hours later 71002687 Anonymous (Capture.png 707x797 55kB)
It's no big deal really
15 hours later 71002697 Anonymous (maxresdefault.jpg 1280x720 61kB)
>>70994555
>he buys things from the internet
15 hours later 71002720 Anonymous
>>70994555
ALL email providers data mine
15 hours later 71002725 Anonymous
>>71002669
>replying to a baiting NEET
15 hours later 71002851 Anonymous
>>71001577
The EU does inspections and can demand full access to the data. Just notify the authorities if unsure and they will make sure to look into it. It would work similar to old German privacy rules whenever someone makes a formal GDPR request.
15 hours later 71002924 Anonymous
>>71002720
My ISP probably doesn't care
15 hours later 71003091 Anonymous
I found out recently Amazon does as well. I went in to my account and clicked on "order history" and there was a huge fucking list of everything I've purchased
WTF
16 hours later 71003230 Anonymous
>>71003091
If you have account there (i never used amazon, i don't know if you can order stuff without it) then it's not surprising at all i would literally expect it since it's, you know, for buying stuff
16 hours later 71003361 Anonymous
>>70998653
Is this shit not illegal in the first place? Working at a small company we have to be very careful not to fuck up. Costs a shitload of money, and Google is casually making a database from your purchases delivered in your fucking gmail account. The EU can go fuck themselves with a cactus.
16 hours later 71003373 Anonymous (lol.png 709x510 10kB)
?
16 hours later 71003393 Anonymous
>>71003361
I don't think they do this in the EU. See >>71003373
16 hours later 71003428 Anonymous (1535702157946.png 800x1000 547kB)
>>71002445
B-but you need one to purchase in-game currency in mobages :^)
16 hours later 71003440 Anonymous
>>71003361
They're just displaying your emails in a different way. It's just an organizational tool. I don't think it's illegal.
>>71003393
I'm in the EU, they do.
16 hours later 71003585 Anonymous
>>71002439
im sorry you have abusive friends
17 hours later 71003693 Anonymous
>>71002658
it is basically a slippery slope argument. at best you could take it as an excessively logical "categorical imperative"; like mlk jr's saying "injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere"
17 hours later 71003759 Anonymous
>>71002543
jobs? oh yea. i remember those.
17 hours later 71003842 Anonymous
>>70994555
>a bunch of books, mobile and games, and glassware
That listing is missing 4 out of 5 purchases I've made where the receipt is still in the inbox.
For a botnet, I am not impressed.
17 hours later 71003935 Anonymous (Screenshot_20190518-232221_Bromite.jpg 1440x2510 259kB)
Ah shit. My secret shame.
17 hours later 71004060 Anonymous
>>71002543
You toss nothing. Now bring me my big mac menu, chop chop.
19 hours later 71004797 Anonymous
>>70994782
Oh shit, I use Google Mail. Yeah, I love it, too.
19 hours later 71004841 Anonymous
>>71002669
just use proton with plus account and own domain
19 hours later 71004865 Anonymous (1556605963550.png 679x937 75kB)
Fug :D
19 hours later 71005041 Anonymous (Screenshot_2019-05-18-17-19-57-613_org.mozilla.focus.jpg 1080x1920 210kB)
>>70994555
You can remove them.
20 hours later 71005279 Anonymous
>>71005041
Why would you though?
20 hours later 71005594 Anonymous
>>71003361
You agreed to it in the terms and conditions
20 hours later 71005619 Anonymous
>>71001527
I'm actually the guy who made that post, and uh, for brands in terms of quality theres doc-johnson stuff and bad-dragon, those are the ones I've used. I have an small or medium Austin from bad-dragon, it's pretty good because medium firmness means that average girth isn't painful to use. I'd get something small again but without a knot cause I don't care about knots and just want more usable length.
20 hours later 71005766 Anonymous (1534325465611.jpg 409x409 45kB)
>>71002543
The only things you toss are the fries in the fryer, wageslave.
20 hours later 71005804 Anonymous (gooble.png 666x859 56kB)
bros..
21 hours later 71006176 Anonymous
>>71005766
He also likes to toss salad.
21 hours later 71006210 Anonymous (file.png 665x579 48kB)
I use a M$ account for most of my purchases so I guess they have more info than jewgle.
21 hours later 71006282 Anonymous
>>70994555
How is this news? Did you seriously think that Google didn't analyze your E-Mails? Why does it even matter? You buy from one botnet, so what does it matter if the other botnet knows what it is you bought, too. Not like Amazon is any more trustworthy than Google.
I am actually shocked by the amount of people who are surprised by this. I mean, I might work part time in data analysis and my company has a very close relationship with Google and Facebook, but I thought that this was obvious. G-Mail analyzes every single E-Mail you receive. This should be self explanatory and obvious.
21 hours later 71006466 Anonymous
I checked and there's nothing lmao
21 hours later 71006499 Anonymous
Just checked. There's ~200 purchases. From what I can tell, it's every Amazon and Paypal purchase and nothing else. Not like I care. At least they don't track my pizza purchases.
22 hours later 71006724 Anonymous
So, any online purchase that goes to my email (Amazon, B&H, Steam, etc) and then anywhere in real life that uses Square (mostly beer and one bbq place).
22 hours later 71006813 Anonymous
>want to keep archiving the emails
>can't remove the lists unless I delete the emails
FUCK GOOGLE
Welp, not like that I really care about that.
22 hours later 71006845 Anonymous
>>70994555
Fucking comcast wont let me run my own e-mail server, to prevent shit like this from happening.
22 hours later 71006889 Anonymous
Unless you pay everything with cash there's virtually no reason to even give the slightest shit about this. You pay digitally, be it VISA, EC or Paypal and you're in the system. If you care about your purchase history being tracked then you should never even order from a single online shop.
22 hours later 71006931 Anonymous
>>70994555
I removed all my e-mail from google but it still shows a few things that I cannot delete.
22 hours later 71006971 Anonymous
>>70994555
I never ever used Gmail once. The thought of only online email is sickening to me. Same with most cloud shit.
22 hours later 71007013 Anonymous (1506897081_166302_1506897247_noticia_normal.jpg 980x651 108kB)
>>71006889
Preiscely why all these preppers buy guns MRes etc but the government and big business know where they live etc but 90% of the time they would have paid with amex,visa etc online ,you can't be off grid unless you are homeless pay everything with cash and live abroad.. people on here use Linux etc but can still be traced..
22 hours later 71007152 Anonymous
>>71007013
you might as well assume anything you do online is documented in extreme detail.
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/tech/ security-vpn/lawful-intercept/index .html
22 hours later 71007182 Anonymous
>>71007013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commu nications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforc ement_Act
23 hours later 71007453 Anonymous
>>70995409
this
dont use google account to create an account elsewhere. always create new account (you can then use gmail as your mail).
that way its not all auto connected barry shitpeas.
23 hours later 71007907 Anonymous
>>71006889
>>71007013
Any reason to think Bitcoin + TOR isn't a solution to that?
23 hours later 71007951 Anonymous
>>71000239
For all my online purchases I'm using a cock.li address for now, but they're being forwarded through a catch-all domain so I can just re-point it to whatever I eventually end up on.
My plan is to switch everything to fastmail.com which seems to have pretty decent private hosting (although it costs money) and allows the use of a custom domain.
I considered Proton too, as well as Tutanota - they seem like decent options but I've decided to go the shillary clinton route and use privately hosted mail instead since it's less likely to be part of a dragnet or global surveillance program.
23 hours later 71007982 Anonymous (computer love.gif 750x500 18kB)
This shit says that I have to delete those emails to remove the purchase from the list. I deleted the emails in gmail and after 4 hours, nothing happened, every fucking shit is still there.
If I click on remove at the details page, it still says that I need to delete those fucking emails.
This shit is a fucking cancer.
23 hours later 71007992 Anonymous
>>71007951
This might be a stupid question, but if you use fastmail, the emails still end up on their servers right? It's not actually self hosting. If it was, why would you even want to use fastmail still?
24 hours later 71008422 Anonymous
>>71007982
You do realize when you "delete" shit from Google, you're just checking a column in that datarow labeled "hide_from_user", right?
For an example, when you permanently close your Facebook account, all you need to do is prove your identity and you can get it back with all the contacts and data intact later on.
24 hours later 71008446 Anonymous
>>71008422
Yes, I got it anon
24 hours later 71008519 Anonymous
>>71005804
a big boy needs his nourishment
24 hours later 71008522 Anonymous
>>71008422
>For an example, when you permanently close your Facebook account, all you need to do is prove your identity and you can get it back with all the contacts and data intact later on.
That's got to be bullshit, no way that would fly under GDPR and facebook got the most eyes on it regarding that.
24 hours later 71008611 Anonymous
>>71008522
GDPR is EU only.
24 hours later 71008862 Anonymous (1556098325013.png 343x628 281kB)
>>70994555
Just your warm reminder that this is completely accepted by modern society and literally no one gives a fuck outside of places like /g/, even if you were to pull that article right into their face they still wouldn't give the slightest fuck. If that's not enough, they can even be turned against you just like the US government turned Snowden into the enemy of the state with hordes of people unironically calling him a traitor and wishing for his death for daring to enlighten them on how this shitty dystopia works
24 hours later 71008870 Anonymous
>>70995559
Heheh enjoy our free email service, goy. It's super secret and secure, I promise you. I know it sounds too good to be true, but you should trust me.
25 hours later 71009091 Anonymous
>>71008611
Facebook operates in the EU.
25 hours later 71009100 Anonymous
>>71001550
anyone know the answer to this?
25 hours later 71009188 Anonymous
>>71009100
They can't see it directly, but it can be trivially inferred.
>4chan has a JSON API that provides the content and the timestamp on a millisecond basis
>google has IP and timestamp
you do the math.
25 hours later 71009274 Anonymous
>>71006971
How can email be offline lol
25 hours later 71009280 Anonymous
>>70995403
This site is just an email parser, it's hardly an advanced tracking system. They probably have much more efficient and precise shit, they just won't show it to us.
25 hours later 71009380 Anonymous
>>71009280
Amen to that.
25 hours later 71009448 Anonymous (1525402055714.jpg 900x1200 176kB)
>>71002687
You clearly have bigger problems.
25 hours later 71009474 Anonymous (DF833B22-1029-4B71-9979-E25DAE944F16.jpg 1242x217 68kB)
>>70994555
Real eye opener
26 hours later 71009675 Anonymous
>>71009274
POP3.
26 hours later 71009744 Anonymous
It's in your email in the first place, what difference does it make if google formats it different.
What? You didn't expect email to use blatant keywords to sort purchases?
This is a cheap scare when in actuality any email service can do this for you, you could probably even write a script to do it yourself.
26 hours later 71009994 Anonymous
>>71009474
It doesn't go in your eye, silly!
28 hours later 71011118 Anonymous
>>70994555
>all the normies scared responses.
First of all, shame on you, /g/. All this page does is perform a search for purchases. The SAME thing you can already do with a gmail search. It's just a list of results for EMAILS you received from your purchases.
Everybody crying about this is:
a: A fucking normie with no understanding of how easy it is to populate a list from a database
b: Never programmed a day in their life.
Delete the receipt from your email and it drops off the list. WOW, MAGIC!
28 hours later 71011163 Anonymous
>>71007982
>>71008422
These two people are idiots..
I've been using Gmail since beta and use it as my whore account and since I'm always deleting shit once I'm done with it my list doesn't even SCROLL.
You'e doing something wrong. It's probably still in your trash folder or something. Get a life,.
29 hours later 71011521 Anonymous
>>70995308
When you delete an email, that only removes it from your view. The text remains in the database with the deleted flag turned on.
29 hours later 71011557 Anonymous
Reminder that Google literally makes you dumb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googl e_effect
29 hours later 71011795 Anonymous
>>71007982
same, i deleted all ~2500 emails from *@amazon.com over 24 hours ago, including removing them from my trash. the purchase list is unchanged and now when i click view email it just takes me to all mail.
29 hours later 71011815 Anonymous
>>70994555
Looks like it just parses your emails when you go to the link
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