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2019-03-01 10:38 69998461 Anonymous (its dead.png 898x700 824kB)
>Tesla slowing dying What went wrong?

1 min later 69998476 Anonymous
>>69998461 this seems like a good move tho.

1 min later 69998480 Anonymous
>Online only Fucking lol Musk is such a retard. Nobody is buying a car over the internet when they can't even see it in person.

2 min later 69998481 Anonymous
>>69998461 They're going online only sales and increasing offline service centers. ~80% of their sales were already from online anyway.

2 min later 69998482 Anonymous
>>69998461 huh they actually had stores? I though selling cars online and skipping the whole dealership thing was a big part of their shtick

2 min later 69998491 Anonymous
>>69998461 Releasing the patents.

2 min later 69998494 Anonymous
>>69998461 This is good for Tesla

3 min later 69998501 Anonymous
meme cars for basedboys to be honest

3 min later 69998509 Anonymous
>>69998480 thats wher you are wrong kiddo

4 min later 69998514 Anonymous
>>69998461 >ignore everything anybody has ever learned from manufacturing automobiles, an industry known the world over for being one of the most ruthless in existence >fail >speculate as to why

4 min later 69998524 Anonymous
Why exactly does /pol/ hate a real life billionaire, and worship a lying dotard who played one on TV?

5 min later 69998526 Anonymous
>>69998480 This, but unironically. If it would cost $10 000 - maybe. Otherwise - no, fucking no. Scratch on new $40 000 thing is unacceptable. >>69998501 Also Tesla is complete botnet, all electrical systems should be removed and replaced with third-party systems, maybe even proprietary, but without call-back feature

6 min later 69998545 Anonymous (blojak.png 866x900 96kB)
>>69998480 >Nobody is buying a car over the internet >except for 80% of their existing customers

8 min later 69998561 Anonymous
>>69998509 You'd have to be a hardcore Musk fanboy retard to buy a car you can't even see in person. Tesla will never ever be able to compete with real car companies when they have retards like Musk in change, they actually know the industry which is why they've lasted a 100 years meanwhile Musk knows jack shit about the industry and how to get consumers to buy.

8 min later 69998566 Anonymous
>>69998482 They sell directly to customers. Now they want to sell directly to customers without even having a physical store. Seems like the next step.

9 min later 69998570 Anonymous
>>69998545 80% of nothing is nothing.

9 min later 69998571 Anonymous
>>69998561 >You'd have to be a hardcore Musk fanboy retard to buy a car you can't even see in person So 99.9% of his demographic.

9 min later 69998573 Anonymous
>>69998481 people were able to take a look at the car in person prior to buying one online

10 min later 69998586 Anonymous
>Tesla had stores Got two news in one article! >>69998524 This is /g/ you blind fish

10 min later 69998592 Anonymous
>>69998545 >80% of less than 1% marketshare

11 min later 69998607 Anonymous
I guess being #1 in customer satisfaction just proves all Tesla buyers are "Musk fanboy retards".

13 min later 69998630 Formerly BarracksBro
>>69998561 >>69998561 lmao. im glas tesla is around, really up'd the car game. with the new Model 3 pricing. That car is a fucking steal for all the tech you get with the car.

13 min later 69998633 Anonymous
>>69998561 >car industry the only thing they are good at is asking the government for bailouts

15 min later 69998664 Anonymous (1339550542705.jpg 904x1024 650kB)
I guess you Musk hater retards will walk and fucking like it when public transit switches to Tesla buses.

16 min later 69998676 Anonymous
>>69998524 why are you assuming its /pol/ teslas are objectively shit. You could get any old car from the 70s or even older and drive it across america only needing 10 minute breaks to refule, the Tesla takes like 7 hours to charge

17 min later 69998679 Anonymous
>>69998633 The US big 3 all make the top 10 corporate welfare queens list, and Tesla paid a gov loan back 9 years early with interest.

17 min later 69998692 Anonymous (Untitled.png 1123x518 577kB)
>>69998480 >Nobody is buying a car over the internet when they can't even see it in person. Wrong

18 min later 69998700 Anonymous
>>69998607 Would it be incredibly surprising behavior from an overwhelmingly hiveminded, le upvote mentality customer base? Especially one that just dropped 60 large on a poorly made Eclipse with a battery?

18 min later 69998706 Anonymous
>>69998480 No, people who buy Teslas and other cars in that price range do exactly that.

18 min later 69998710 Anonymous
>>69998676 sure kid

21 min later 69998747 Anonymous
>>69998700 Eclipses are made by Mitsubushi and I'd be looking for $100 off if it didn't have a battery. Tesla has a great rep for quality.

21 min later 69998751 Anonymous
>>69998706 I bet the overlap between people who legitimately believe this and people who complain about student loan forgiveness is close to 100%.

22 min later 69998760 Anonymous
>>69998480 That's true for clunkers and used cars not for something new and heald to a standard like teslas.

23 min later 69998770 Anonymous (botnet.jpg 960x720 89kB)
>What went wrong? IoT bullshit made the cars really inconvenient to use.

25 min later 69998802 Anonymous
>>69998607 >High customer satisfaction rating for a brand that locked buyers out of battery capacity that physically existed in their car till they paid $10k extra for a "software upgrade" Sounds like fanboyism to me.

25 min later 69998807 Anonymous
>>69998586 Well excuse me for assuming anybody on /g/ who's enormously retarded came from /pol/.

27 min later 69998830 Anonymous
>>69998802 Your thinking of the iPhone, we be talking cars.

27 min later 69998832 Anonymous
>>69998770 Is that a real thing? I've only owned purely mechanical cars are people really letting windows 10 upgrade tier software control their car?

27 min later 69998836 Anonymous
>>69998770 are you fucking shitting me? is that real? >go for a roadtrip >bumfuck-nowhere >no interwebz >fuck you, you ain't driving back; WALK, BITCH

28 min later 69998842 Anonymous
>>69998679 >>69998633 Meanwhile Tesla only exists at all because of government tax breaks for electric car buyers.

29 min later 69998863 Anonymous
>>69998836 how exactly would it know if there was an update without internet

31 min later 69998881 Anonymous
>>69998842 Ol Muskie was reporting low sales numbers for Teslas to keep that customer rebate. After the gov found out, they forced him to take the same handouts that ford, gm, and chryler get.

31 min later 69998886 Anonymous
>>69998832 You only had cars from the 70's?

32 min later 69998889 Anonymous (car on-disk dlc.jpg 3007x1674 680kB)
>>69998830 I'm talking about cars, fag.

32 min later 69998896 Anonymous
>>69998842 You could literally fund Tesla 10 times over with all the handouts the automotive industry has gotten and that's just at the federal level Do you even have any ideas how many state level land and tax breaks they got for opening new plants that closed in 8 years.

33 min later 69998906 Anonymous
>>69998863 All teslas come equipped with carrier pigeons just in case that happens.

34 min later 69998916 Anonymous
>>69998863 from when it last connected to check, just before going out of range

34 min later 69998921 Anonymous
>>69998836 Yep, it is real. This is why Tesla need VVVF GTO inverter (not IGBT rubbish). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4A MDiYV4PU

34 min later 69998925 Anonymous
>>69998889 Oh, so they temporarily disabled battery overcharge protection because of emergency. Why didn't you just say so?

36 min later 69998948 Anonymous
>>69998916 >making up entirely fictional scenarios that never happened to support an argument

37 min later 69998956 Anonymous
>>69998842 It exists because of investors. Extent of tax breaks can explain part of investing willingness, but not nearly everything can be said results from that. Otherwise Norway would be electric car manufacturing centre of the world. >>69998807 take your medication

37 min later 69998967 Anonymous
>>69998889 >Free supercharging Did ford or gm hand out free gas?

38 min later 69998978 Anonymous
>>69998948 >defending always-on DRM, IN A CAR

38 min later 69998983 Anonymous
>>69998967 Did ford or gm lock 1/4 of your tank?

39 min later 69998987 Anonymous
>>69998925 Look at you here, defending Tesla because you're a poorfag Musk fanboy but because you're poor you don't even know anything about the cars lol. https://electrek.co/2016/06/09/tesl a-60kwh-pricing-option-software-rev olution-exclusive-details/ >You see, the 60kWh Tesla Model S you buy on Tesla’s website or from a retail location isn’t any different than a standard Model S 75kWh that you could buy yesterday – from a hardware perspective. Tesla simply will sell you the car at a $8500 discount and software lock on 20% of the battery power of the car. But! You can later unlock the car’s extra 20% of battery if you give Tesla that $8500 (plus $500 more as a sort of late/delivery fee). Muskfags will defend this.

39 min later 69998999 Anonymous
>>69998832 No car these days is purely mechanical. There are onboard computers even in 80s cars. The difference is that most onboard computers are offline. Not Tesla's though. They really want to shove the IoT crap up your ass because it's the hip new fad and much like with Nike's self-lacing shoes that got bricked because of bugs in a firmware update, it leads to nothing but problems. People really need to stop shoving computers with internet connections where they don't belong.

41 min later 69999016 Anonymous
I didn't had a Tesla, but I had some electric scooter. Ninebot - fucking botnet, with shitty locked down battery, and dangerous """safety""" features. Chink noname - bad assembly, but everything else is better. I think Tesla is more like fucking Ninebot....

41 min later 69999018 Anonymous
>>69998983 see >>69998925 and at least try to absorb perspectives that confict with your preconcieved notions.

42 min later 69999029 Anonymous
>>69998978 >DRM >critical system software update that might keep your car from killing you requires that you install it before driving >>meanwhile at FCA wheel falls of of your brand new Jeep >>have to start federal investigation for them to fix it. >>69998983 Yea they locked it behind a paywall that requires me to buy the fleet version of the vehicle to get the 30 gallon tank instead of the 20.

42 min later 69999043 Anonymous
>>69998978 fucking brainlet

43 min later 69999054 Anonymous
>>69998987 I'm a licensed mechanic.

45 min later 69999081 Anonymous (1544647887474.jpg 300x500 29kB)
>>69998760 >held to a standard like teslas. LMAO teslas are shit

45 min later 69999090 Anonymous
>>69998999 >People really need to stop shoving computers with internet connections where they don't belong. Agreed, and also unnecessary fine electronics. t. Tesla-fanboy whose Audi's electric locks freeze randomly at -20C levels

46 min later 69999105 Anonymous
Audi and Porsche's electric cars are going to be better, so who cares?

48 min later 69999130 Anonymous
>>69999054 And? You're ignorant of Tesla charging money to unlock existing battery capacity, doesn't matter what you are.

49 min later 69999152 Anonymous
>>69998545 >78% of Model 3 orders were placed online, 82% without a test drive >Model 3 sales driven entirely by fanboys who don't care and don't speak at all for the greater population after this initial hype weakens and competition ramps up

50 min later 69999158 Anonymous
>>69999105 I won't get a VAG, unless it is SKODA, since only SKODA offers VAG without gimmicks.

50 min later 69999166 Anonymous
>>69999105 Just like BWM's and Chevrolet's right ? and Toyota Honda and Nissan ?? With all their money and resources TESLA IS TOTALLY FINISHED

53 min later 69999213 Anonymous
>>69999166 Toyota only needs to replace ICE with nothing and put couple batteries here and there.

55 min later 69999239 Anonymous
>>69999029 Look. Here is the difference. >physically less volume >limited by software. Why Tesla didn't put some sort of big red switch, that would allow to utilize 100% of charge, or even better: simple voltmeter with some markings?

58 min later 69999281 Anonymous
Most of their stores were just showrooms, you would buy the cars online anyway. They also rely on lots of third party vendors for things like vehicle storage, delivery, etc. Most of the staff there were just trained chimpanzees who would let you open the Model X doors and go "ooh" and "aah" despite not having any more info on delivery and availability than you would looking at their Twitter

59 min later 69999298 Anonymous
>>69998461 >brick and mortar is dying no shit Sherlock

1 hours later 69999305 Anonymous
>>69999281 this it the real truth because archaic laws prevent them from selling their own cars in most states

1 hours later 69999323 Anonymous (1511265540397.jpg 500x700 66kB)
>>69998987 >$500 "Delivery fee" for an OTA update because the $8500 for the update itself wasn't enough Okay now this is epic.

1 hours later 69999344 Anonymous
>>69998925 No, they allowed to increase chooch factor.

1 hours later 69999352 Anonymous (Dungeon Meshi - Bark.png 1252x1624 1276kB)
>Sour grapes, the thread How embarrassing.

1 hours later 69999397 Anonymous
>>69998836 if only the hundreds of engineers at tesla were as smart as you.

1 hours later 69999439 Anonymous
>>69999352 What's that? You don't want a car that doesn't let you start it unless you update the software when you're obviously late for work and don't have time for this bullshit? Well, you must hate it because you can't afford it! Yeah. This is some Mactoddler levels of delusion right here. Kill yourself, preferably not with a direct gunshot to the head because scientists need to know how someone so stupid can even manage to breathe, let alone use a computer.

1 hours later 69999478 Anonymous
>>69999397 Tesla enginiggers are OK, maketing niggers are to blame. If there were no Musk and shit, it would have >cockpit like an airplane with dozens of gauges >no protections besides overcharge and discharge >no engine braking simulation >no iPad, manual knobs

1 hours later 69999484 Anonymous
>>69999439 I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Microsoft windows.

1 hours later 69999504 Anonymous (1548006753714.png 998x712 1077kB)
>>69998461 Giant RC cars for adults. What went wrong?

1 hours later 69999523 Anonymous
>>69999504 Probably the fact that anyone with garage can build a similar vehicle for about 1/4 the price.

1 hours later 69999531 Anonymous
>>69999478 wants a thousand gauges in a car that doesn't need them. wew lad.

1 hours later 69999559 Anonymous (agumon- dab.png 1230x1230 646kB)
>>69998461 Nice, fuck Elon Musk.

1 hours later 69999578 Anonymous
It doesn't matter what he does there will be demand for these cars for YEARS. Their main issue currently is production and distribution.

1 hours later 69999598 Anonymous
>>69998664 Hi Elon

1 hours later 69999610 Anonymous (1531083668799.jpg 1024x724 128kB)
>>69998770 >TESLA I NEED TO GET TO WORK TO MAKE MY CAR PAYMENTS >I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that

1 hours later 69999659 Anonymous
>>69998461 stores and dealers where a huge waste of money anyway. fucking boomers.

1 hours later 69999705 Anonymous
>>69999531 Yeah, sure, you can ride a car without any gauges, but it is inconvenient. In electric car it is a good idea to have following instruments. >Main battery voltage (replaces fuel gauge) >Battery current (replaces instant consumption readout and somewhat replaces tachometer) >Battery temperature (replaced engine temperature gauge) >Speedometer I don't know about you, but driving car on hills without temperature gauge is sketchy. I that a lot of modern cars don't have them, and have overheat light on dashboard, but it is not cool at all.

1 hours later 70000070 Anonymous
>>69998461 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8r o6kpKlw0

1 hours later 70000244 Anonymous
>>69998480 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgM Tx_xFezM

2 hours later 70000291 Anonymous
>>69998692 >execs giving each other handjobs for startup revenue increases Tell me something new

2 hours later 70000309 Anonymous
>>69998461 >What went wrong? opening stores for no reason.

2 hours later 70000315 Anonymous
>>69998760 they also sell used, and have been caught on multiple occasions selling fucking shitty cars they claimed were restored

2 hours later 70000384 Anonymous
>>69998561 You'd have to be a hardcore Musk fanboy retard to buy a tesla at all, so I think he's gonna be fine.

2 hours later 70000393 Anonymous (Falcon-Heavy-at-LC39A-3-SpaceX.jpg 2048x1364 628kB)
>>69999352 this is like every spacex thread on /sci/

2 hours later 70000448 Anonymous
There's so many fuckwits here lining up to suck the pedo's microcock that I'd think this was reddit

2 hours later 70000486 Anonymous
>>69998461 It was a cult build around Elon Musk.

2 hours later 70000505 Anonymous (BLAZEITFAGGIT.png 450x399 287kB)
>>69998480 I'm gonna back you up on this. The number of fanboys prepared to lay down cash, sight unseen, is, at some point -and we are prob near/past it already- going to be overtaken by the commercial realities of volume selling, in which there is fuck no way majority going to lay down $50k or w/e without laying hand or even eyeball upon the product. There is not enough True Believers in the Cult of Elon to sustain 'nope, you can't try it at a dealership, just fucking buy it already' as a growth model. I'm not even sure how their model works - no-one likes dealerships much, but, what happens when a Tesla needs serviced - or, does that never happen either?

2 hours later 70000525 Anonymous
>>69998480 Tesla started out as online only.

2 hours later 70000543 Anonymous
>>69998480 The future is now, old man

2 hours later 70000607 Anonymous
>online only How does this work for states where it's basically legally required to buy them from a dealership?

2 hours later 70000672 Anonymous
>>69998573 Most people didn't even test drive a Telsa model 3. 80% of those who purchased didn't.

2 hours later 70000694 Anonymous
>>69998461 That's false. They literally just moved their smaller store into a larger location a couple months ago here. p.s. Shake Shack is taking their old spot

2 hours later 70000696 Anonymous
>>69998480 rich people do

2 hours later 70000702 Anonymous
>>69998480 Y-You're joking right? Where the Model 3 got like 300,000 PREORDERS

2 hours later 70000703 Anonymous
>>70000672 >fanboys >ROTW pick a marketplace, whichever one you like. NOTE: one of these things may be bigger than the other

2 hours later 70000718 Anonymous
Tesla was a real human not a meme Rrrrrrreeeeeeee

2 hours later 70000731 Anonymous
>>69998480 I wonder who could be behind this post.

2 hours later 70000739 Anonymous
>>69998480 get out boomer

2 hours later 70000770 Anonymous
>>70000731 >>70000739 ITS ANTI ELON BIG CAR & GOV CONSPIRATORORS, AGAIN. EVERYTEIM. >PS can I borrow $50k? Give you something later, promise

2 hours later 70000789 Anonymous
it's also because so many states have stupid laws saying you can't sell your own cars directly and have to have a dealer

2 hours later 70000796 Anonymous
>>69998676 Cross-country driving isn't the Tesla demographic, obiously.

2 hours later 70000804 Anonymous
>>70000703 Given that Amazon sells their inventory online, why not Cars?

2 hours later 70000814 Anonymous
>>69999705 I've only driven buckets but I've never any temps problems driving through the mountains

2 hours later 70000817 Anonymous
>>69998676 Heaps have done West to east coast trips >so on December 28, the pair set off from Redondo Beach near Los Angeles. 50 hours, 16 minutes and 32 seconds later, they were at the Red Ball parking garage in Manhattan, not far from the Empire State building. Officially, that’s a new record for the transcontinental journey by an electric car according to The Verge. >The Model 3 does not qualify for free Supercharging for life, so Roy and Zorrilla had to pay for the electricity they used on their 2,860 mile trip. Their final cost was $100.95.

2 hours later 70000819 Anonymous
Only time a car needs a computer is so you can plug in the magic box that tells you what part to replace when the check engine light comes on.

2 hours later 70000820 Anonymous
>>69998480 You brainlet mongoloid, you really think even half of the online customers didn't first go into a store to check out the car?

2 hours later 70000833 Anonymous
>>69998480 >hahaha amazon's fucking retarded >no one's going to buy clothes without seeing it in person >over 10,000 clothing retail stores close down

2 hours later 70000848 Anonymous
>>70000770 >being oblivious to reality

2 hours later 70000854 Anonymous
Does anyone really go car shopping anymore? I just checked out all manufacturers online then after couple weeks was down to 2 cars. You can just easily see major issues and shit online, anything else is petty shit

2 hours later 70000863 Anonymous
>>69998480 Muskcucks will buy anything he tells them to

2 hours later 70000866 Anonymous (4c9.png 645x729 115kB)
>>70000833 >The decision making for buying inexpensive clothes with a return policy off Amazon is the same as buying a 50 grand car

2 hours later 70000867 Anonymous
>>70000607 >order car >ship to service center next state over >drive over somehow >hand over check >receive car >drive home

2 hours later 70000906 Anonymous
>>70000833 do you have any idea, what the returns rate on online (esp. wimmins) clothing retail is? It only 'works' at all because insane fashion markup dsmpens the costs, which is why discounters like boohoo or whoever can afford to sell Basically The Same Shit for $4.99. Elon cant manufacture cars at a winning markup tho, not till he hits volume

2 hours later 70000930 Anonymous
>>70000867 >Have to call an uber to take you to buy a car.

3 hours later 70001018 Anonymous (At_Last_I_Truly_See.png 600x507 95kB)
>>69998770 Yes this is a possibility. Engineers discovered a very rare but catastrophic failure can occur. They mandate a safety update to all cars before they can be started. Can you imagine the lawsuit if they did NOT force a safety update and a mother and three kids died because of a SAFETY error the company they KNEW about and did not fix. You may not like it but it is for your own good.

3 hours later 70001030 Anonymous
>>70000930 How is that any different from now? Even if you're buying a new car and have one, why would you drive yourself there just to pick your old car back up etc unless you're doing a dumbass trade in or selling your car before you got your new one

3 hours later 70001042 Anonymous
>i like the dinosaur approach to buying cars and going to a dealer then haggling and waiting for the fake call to the manager!

3 hours later 70001056 Anonymous
>>70001018 >but it is for your own good uhuh - the path to hell is well signposted as well, for 'my own good' - difference being, I can choose NOT to take that, thanks

3 hours later 70001067 Anonymous (1550147422032.gif 800x1400 266kB)
>>69998889 >pls don't sue us if you die because of the car's artificial limitations.

3 hours later 70001122 Anonymous
>>70001056 >I can choose NOT to take that, thanks Then will you also chose NOT to sue Tesla when the car drives into a wall, because you REFUSED a safety update? You want a smart car, you have to allow it to learn.

3 hours later 70001133 Anonymous
>all this anti tesla talk from people who will never buy one /afford one why do you keep crying about shit

3 hours later 70001157 Anonymous
Why are there not that many competitors to tesla? I feel like there should be a lot by now, just say >like a tesla but not as expensive And you can have a market. Or is tesla the apple of cars?

3 hours later 70001180 Anonymous
>>70001157 because it takes billions to make a car there is a competitor making a pickup truck and is coming out next year or something, got another round of like 250 million Tesla made an expensive car first to get $ and show concept, its why the $35k model is only coming now, they had to sell the 50k version to get money

3 hours later 70001239 Anonymous
Battery backed power grids are impossible at urban scale so tesla's take over the world plan is retarded. >bububububububububububububububuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuut batteries will get better Hold on bro let me break out my 90s deadtree popsci talking about how better battery technology is right around the corner™

3 hours later 70001276 Anonymous
>>70001122 howsabout (and bear with me here, novel concept) I just own a car that doesn't 'drive into a wall' just because some OTA 'safety update' went tits-up? I DON'T WANT a fucking car that 'learns' on the job, nor one that depends upon the vagaries of continually-updated software to function at all. And if anyone's making mistakes that endanger my life, i'll be the one making them.. I test fucking software - I'll entrust my life preferentially to a 'dumb' car every day of the week, ta

3 hours later 70001289 Anonymous
>>69998461 >*go into tesla dealership* >Me: hi i'd like to buy that car you've been selling me for the last hour >Dealer: Great news. That'll be 70K USD and you'll get the car in 2 years, maybe more. GEEEE I WONDER WHY THE DEALERSHIP MODEL DIDN*T WORK

3 hours later 70001297 Anonymous
>>69998592 >less than 1% market share Actually not bad considering that most people who purchased a $100k+ Tesla still don't have a Tesla to drive. The cars aren't cheap, and there are plenty of people who prepurchase these automobiles.

3 hours later 70001299 Anonymous
>>70001276 >I DON'T WANT a fucking car that 'learns' on the job, Then do NOT buy a smart car, go by a F-150 and be happy. Tesla is NOT making a car you want.

3 hours later 70001310 Anonymous
>>69998842 Tesla sold over 200,000 cars, so nobody gets a tax break for buying one anymore.

3 hours later 70001324 Anonymous (Jaguar-I-Pace.jpg 1940x1300 529kB)
>>70001157 >Why are there not that many competitors to tesla? Innovative idea, larger companies loathe to innovate (more to lose = conservative plans), small company with nothing but some startup capital does what others thought of but felt was too risky to try. Now that Tesla paved the way and showed everyone that the market is ripe, new luxury EVs are arriving from more established manufacturers that have QC, production capacity, and economies of scale to blow them out of the water. In 10 years, Tesla will have been bought, and will live on only in the history of automobiles as innovators who expanded the market.

3 hours later 70001353 Anonymous (bf80e0df24be7c91690dea3d85ea67ee.jpg 649x365 27kB)
>>70001239 Not impossible at all really South Australia got one as a backup to kick in instantly due to damage to other sources of power It's small in comparison to peak load but it's not overly big and cost 90million >The 100 MW output of the Tesla battery might appear small compared to South Australia's peak energy demand of about 3000 MW, but its ability to quickly inject electricity within a fraction of a second is a large factor in its success. >The battery was able to respond to the sudden loss of 689 megawatts of generation within a fraction of a second. Also SA is fucking huge compared to US states and the move is that homes have the battery backup, not the fucking state. Telsa has this with their power wall

3 hours later 70001362 Anonymous
>>70001324 >Tesla will have been bought, Do NOT be surprised if it is the other way around. 10 years from now (Ford or GM or Hyundai, etc) will live only in automobile history bought out by Tesla.

3 hours later 70001373 Anonymous (1544214179776.jpg 419x444 28kB)
>>70000070 >>70000244 Fucking yikes. How the hell is the buying experience this bad for a "premium" brand?

3 hours later 70001380 Anonymous
>>70001324 >Innovative idea, larger companies loathe to innovate (more to lose = conservative plans), small company with nothing but some startup capital does what others thought of but felt was too risky to try. They actually innovated electronic cars in the 90's, but decided that the whole industry would lose money in supporting sales like aftermarket upgrades, and etc.

3 hours later 70001397 Anonymous (Rivian-R1T-4.jpg 1910x984 320kB)
>>70001324 >larger companies loathe to innovate (more to lose = conservative plans), it costs an estimated 1-2billion to plan, develop, manufacture and test a new car line Think of every new car that's come out, they spent a shitload on that. Pic related coming 2020, $700million in funding again this year, mostly from amazon apparently.

3 hours later 70001401 Anonymous
>>70001324 If Tesla is bought out then they would be completely shut down. No electric vehicles on the road for anyone.

3 hours later 70001406 Anonymous
>>69998461 >buy car online >wait 2 months >"uhh Tesla my car never arrived" >get a second car for free >You just made $50,000 Who's with me?

3 hours later 70001443 Anonymous
>>69998482 Calling it a "store" was a stretch, unless you like manufacturer merch.

3 hours later 70001445 Anonymous
>>70001018 >disabling entire car instead disabling gimmicks, while allowing motor controller running in emergency mode with limited power of sort

3 hours later 70001449 Anonymous
>>70000930 >Living in a shitty state with anti-consumer laws

3 hours later 70001465 Anonymous
>>70001406 >Pulling aliexpres tier scams on Tesla. I like you.

3 hours later 70001471 Anonymous
>>70000814 But I've driven complete buckets, where thermal valve was broken and won't open fully. In winter it was comfy, while in summer I accidentally 105°C on flat road...

3 hours later 70001472 Anonymous
>>69998676 A Model S battery lasts around 265 miles, it's good enough even for trips.

3 hours later 70001474 Anonymous
>>70001406 >drive new Tessler for 29 days >nah, don't like the color >replace, repeat

3 hours later 70001481 Anonymous (2017_Nissan_LEAF_(ZE0_MY17)_hatchback_(2018-11-02)_01.jpg 3671x1823 2857kB)
>>70001380 Electric cars themselves were in some ways old hat by the time Tesla came along, and there were some EV alternatives already on the market when the Model S started selling, like the Nissan Leaf. Tesla showed not only that there was a larger hunger than the competition assumed, but that people were willing to seriously shell out the big bucks for it. They also crucially understood the importance of charging infrastructure, which they still have a better hold on than any competitor.

3 hours later 70001496 Anonymous
>>70001445 >>disabling entire car instead disabling gimmicks, It does NOT work that way, you can not just "turn off" parts of the driving AI or the internal monitoring system. There are interdependent systems that depend on each other and are DESIGNED that way.

3 hours later 70001521 Anonymous
Tesla has served its purpose of getting the big, already established car manufacturers to produce electric vehicles. Once they start becoming available to consumers, Tesla will offer nothing new or special that makes it worth its price premium.

3 hours later 70001539 Anonymous
>>70001406 based >"but the delivery driver has your signature and said it was delivered" >well it wasn't me that you sent it to, so either refund me or give me a new one

3 hours later 70001573 Anonymous
>>69998925 >>69998983 >>70001067 I want to believe it's because there's a amount of the battery reserved to prevent too deep of a discharge, for both safety and longevity SSD's do the same thing because NAND cells will die over time from writes

3 hours later 70001615 Anonymous
>>70001573 I'm being retarded it's called over provisioning

3 hours later 70001628 Anonymous
>>70001573 see >>69998987

3 hours later 70001629 Anonymous
>>70001353 >South Australia got one as a backup to kick in instantly due to damage to other sources of power Read what it's backing then read what it's capable of providing. Then apologize to me. It's not even a proof of concept because the concept itself is impossible.

3 hours later 70001648 Anonymous
>>70001573 Yes, but it is your car, it is your responsibility to charge it properly.

3 hours later 70001652 Anonymous
>>70001628 reason why I said "I want to believe"

3 hours later 70001655 Anonymous
>>70001573 >it's because there's a amount of the battery reserved to prevent too deep of a discharge Correct. Every EV does this, unless you want to burn through the battery life. The Chevy Volt had a 16 kWh battery, but you could only use 10.4

3 hours later 70001661 Anonymous
>>70001539 >Using nig nog speech >Brainpower of a 12 year old You need to go back to wherever you came from and keep trying to fit in there kiddo.

3 hours later 70001663 Anonymous (8899.jpg 1920x1353 614kB)
Anyway, this is what peak performance dashboard for electric car should look like.

3 hours later 70001676 Anonymous
>>69998461 Toyota had envisioned something similar with their Scion line of cars. You would be able to customize the car to your own liking online -- pick a trim, color, options, et cetera -- and then pay for it through their finance or other fiancier. They'd build it and ship it to you. Done. It make sense when you think about it. Majority of automakers already have that 'build your car' option on their website. If you ever shopped for a car you know you have to jump through hoops to get a car just how you like it. Normally you get stuck with whatever is already on the lot (IE: avacado green subaru). This could potentially be a great move by Tesla. Imagine if only they spark a revolution. I for one would love to have not to have to deal with slimeball car sales men.

3 hours later 70001680 Anonymous
>>70001661 what are you on about mate? seeing boogiemen where there aren't any, yeah?

3 hours later 70001684 Anonymous
>>69998480 this but unironically

3 hours later 70001690 Anonymous
>>70001481 >Tesla showed not only that there was a larger hunger than the competition assumed, but that people were willing to seriously shell out the big bucks for it. Car manufacturers already knew this, but they didn't want to manufacture electronic cars. The only reason why they even bothered with e. cars in the 90's was, so they could continue to sell in certain states like California. After that ordeal was over (manufacturers lobbied as hard as they could against having to build electric vehicles). All the manufacturers did the bare minimum to be able to sell cars in those states, and afterwards they did everything they could to make everyone forget about electric cars. Some even went as far as buying them all back, and making owners sign nda's. Tesla having no ties to previous auto manufacturers was a good thing, because it wasn't part of the auto cartel, and didn't give a fuck about going against them. The demand was always there, but manufacturers did not want to provide the product.

3 hours later 70001699 Anonymous
>>69998889 This is the reason why we need free software. Elon Cuck shouldn't decide how I drive my car.

4 hours later 70001717 Anonymous
>>70001680 Using the word based confirms you are black, so you need to fuck off back to /r/rapmusic.

4 hours later 70001731 Anonymous (1550136859696.png 512x566 464kB)
>>70001717 >Using the word based confirms you are black

4 hours later 70001733 Anonymous
>>70001717 >based anti-nigga speek posta yo

4 hours later 70001743 Anonymous
>>70001481 IMO major point is, many other cars were cautious in trying to appeal to wider customer base. Tesla is appealing to upper middle class people who're not looking to get maximum utility per $$, and have the money to actually back up their >muh co2 virtue signalling, if the product actually has some qualities that justify the price.

4 hours later 70001789 Anonymous
>>69998461 the actual "car" part of teslas is garbage and now that big manufacturers are getting in the market people will buy elsewhere. doesn't help that the electric car novelty race is basically over, anyone buying a tesla now is just a tool. also no more gov subsidies

4 hours later 70001795 Anonymous (pain.png 845x571 1042kB)
>>70001018 Except no, that's fucking bullshit. This is the problem with retarded software engineers taking their philosophy on software updates from Facebook machines and applying it to something that's actually important. So what if a "rare but catastrophic failure" can occur? It's way more likely that not being able to start the car IS the safety error. Imagine you have to drive away from a hurricane, or you have to drive someone to the hospital. These situations don't happen very often, but the fucking car doesn't know why you need to start it. It's not always just to get to work on time. >You may not like it but it is for your own good. Yeah, it's really fucking 2019 to buy expensive tech that does things I don't want "for my own good." Because some Silicon Valley dipshit thinks he knows better than everyone.

4 hours later 70001898 Anonymous
>>70001795 You total miss the point. Tesla the company would be sued by you or your family if lethal harm came to you because of a software glitch the company KNEW it had AND had a fix for BUT did NOT install into the vehicle. By FORCING you to upgrade BEFORE you can start the car they are covering their ass AND making the car safer. You do not like it, BUT you or your surviving family WOULD sue them AND would win if you got hurt or killed using a device known by the manufacturer as being defective and a safety hazard. What if the error killed a child crossing the road. The child's parents would sue you, and then you would sue Tesla blaming them for allowing a known defect in the car to exist when a fix was available.

4 hours later 70001922 Anonymous
>>69998480 Are you retarded? You must have never been in the market for a >$9k car. See Carvana.

4 hours later 70001929 Anonymous
>>69998461 Tesla was a flash in the pan just like Fisker Karma before it. Once the big manufacturers get fully involved and offer several different electrics each, Tesla will struggle to keep afloat. Tesla did well since there was no competition at the time when they started.

4 hours later 70001978 Anonymous
>>70001929 >Tesla was a flash in the pan just like Fisker Karma before it. The large cell-phone manufacturers thought the exact same thing about Apple creating a smart phone "with NO keyboard". IPhone ate the other smart phone makers.

4 hours later 70001983 Anonymous
>>70001898 and yet somehow we had functioning cars (even electric ones!) for many years which either had no software or received software updates only when you brought them in for service. Cars should not be capable of communicating over the internet, with the manufacturer or with anyone else.

4 hours later 70002011 Anonymous
>>70001629 >It's not even a proof of concept because the concept itself is impossible. except it's been working for 2 years and been praised

4 hours later 70002033 Anonymous
>>70001663 what is that from

4 hours later 70002037 Anonymous
seems a way better way of things I'd love to just pick the car online, color, trim etc then it gets delivered outfront of my house

4 hours later 70002042 Anonymous
>>70001978 >The large cell-phone manufacturers thought the exact same thing about Apple creating a smart phone "with NO keyboard". >IPhone ate the other smart phone makers. Not really the best comparison as at that time if the iPhone HAD failed, Apple still had a successful line of computers and music players to fall back on. Tesla didn't have that, they had to sell cars or disappear entirely. Everything hinged on the car being successful.

4 hours later 70002054 Anonymous
>>70001898 So Tesla are selling a less useful car just to protect themselves, even though in a lot of cases, the ability to start your own car can be critical to your own safety? Maybe that makes sense in the ass-backwards American legal system, but it's still a selfish act that endangers their drivers more often than it protects anyone, and the consequence of that is that they should be rightfully criticized for it, and people are right not to buy it if not being able to start their own car for software-based reasons is a concern to them. Tesla will also be to blame if anyone comes to harm as a result of their car not starting. >What if the error killed a child crossing the road. Then I would be to blame for starting the car when the car's interface warned me not to. Simple as that. You know engineering defects exist in normal grown-up-people cars too, right? They issue defect notices for them, but they don't disable your fucking car remotely because that would be fucking retarded.

4 hours later 70002065 Anonymous
>>70002033 Passat B3 I guess.

4 hours later 70002073 Anonymous
>>70001983 >Cars should not be capable of communicating over the internet, with the manufacturer or with anyone else. Fine then do NOT get a "smart car", go and get a traditional "dumb car" If you want the car to be able to drive itself, park itself, and meet you at the curb, then you HAVE to allow that car to "learn". AI products learn as a "collective mind" NOT as individuals, they need to "phone home" to learn.

4 hours later 70002096 Anonymous
>>70002073 Why not include autopilot module like on planes with its own designated sim card and shit? Why to integrate botnet that deeply?

4 hours later 70002101 Anonymous
>>70002073 God you're dumb.

4 hours later 70002111 Anonymous
>>70002011 Praised by liberals that hate technology unless it's the "good" type of loser technology they subsidize. Ridiculed by conservatives that can read what GWh means. Let me talk really slow for you. The. System. Can't. Power. A. Fraction. Of. What. It's. "Backing".

4 hours later 70002118 Anonymous
>>70002054 >Then I would be to blame for starting the car when the car's interface warned me not to. Simple as that. But that is NOT how the legal system works when it comes to product law. If you do NOT like the way the laws are then change them, but as they stand, Tesla would be committing company suicide if it allowed you to use a known lethally defective device.

4 hours later 70002125 Anonymous
>>69999610 kek

4 hours later 70002145 Anonymous
>>70002111 >The. System. Can't. Power. A. Fraction. Of. What. It's. "Backing". as it was designed too they weren't replacing the fucking grid, it's a battery backup for fluctuations but shows it can be done as they "fire" up instantly

4 hours later 70002146 Anonymous
i work for geico...i hate teslas, fucking shops charging 145 dollars an hour for paint and body because they barley give out certification and the scans and stupid procedures ..fuck them

4 hours later 70002149 Anonymous
>>70002065 >passat b3 propah car that but, innit. None of this 'sorry about that buggy software update that sent you into the rear of a truck' BS here. nope Sir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otw DxHoXAAU

4 hours later 70002184 Anonymous
>>70000866 >78% of Model 3 orders were placed online, 82% without a test drive You genuinely weren't born with empathy. Just because you wouldn't do something doesn't mean everyone else wouldn't. If you actually believe a company made this decision without any numbers to support it then I don't know what to say except, kill yourself.

4 hours later 70002199 Anonymous
>>70002096 >Why to integrate botnet that deeply? Because many people WANT a self-driving car. They want to have to only buy one car for the entire family. Father goes to work car drives itself home, picks up wife and kids, drops wife off at work then kids at school. Car enter Uber mode for a few hours to make some money. Then picks up Dad for lunch, Re-enters Uber mode for a few hours. Picks up the kids at school, takes them home. Then picks up wife and father from work and takes them home. Car powers itself at home, then leaves early in morning for routine cleansing and maintenance before returning to pick up father for work. THIS is what Tesla is working toward.

4 hours later 70002203 Anonymous (tesla-model-s-ubuntu.jpg 750x375 74kB)
>>70002149 It has manual transmission with physical clutch and shifter. You take your left foot, and press the left pedal. Engine disconnected. Clutch broke? Apply some force to shifter, so it will switch to neutral. Same could be done on electric car. You can have mechanical lever that would disconnect motor from VFD.

4 hours later 70002215 Anonymous
>>70002199 >Because many people WANT a self-driving car. Why not make it as an additional module? I see no reason why you can't. Airplanes have many independent modules, so if shit goes out, it doesn't take the rest with it, while on Tesla.... Everything is controlled by OOBANTO.

4 hours later 70002220 Anonymous
>>70002184 >High percents of low sales Big car companies operating in a traditional manner sell more cars in a day than Tesla sells in a year. A handful of devoted Elon Musk cultists aren't going to change the car industry.

4 hours later 70002224 Anonymous
>>70002203 Fuck wrong pic. But yeah, there is OOBANTOO autopilot

4 hours later 70002226 Anonymous
>>70002145 It shows nothing. No one in history has said "it can't switch on fast enough" what everyone with two braincells to rub together has said is "the power density is too poor to serve as an adequate backup". The dream of this system from the get go is widespread solar power. Running entire cities off of batteries at night when the sun goes down. It's not possible. It's a joke. It should not be pursued with current technology. It's a waste of time and money. It's a fleecing of the tax payer.

4 hours later 70002256 Anonymous (maxresdefault (1).jpg 1280x720 72kB)
Sidestick in Tesla when?

4 hours later 70002271 Anonymous
>>70002215 >Why not make it as an additional module? I see no reason why you can't. You want to cheap cart? Then you MUST accept mass uniform production. Tesla is selling smart cars, you do not want a smart car then you do not want buy a Tesla, it is that simple.

4 hours later 70002273 Anonymous
>>70002118 That doesn't change what I said. If Tesla think it's better for them, legally, to remotely disable their cars, even though remotely disabling someone's car can be dangerous if they need their car for something actually fucking important, then sure, whatever, they can do it. They could have implemented a system that respects the driver by warning them and allowing them to drive anyway, but if they think that's more legally risky, they can choose not to. It's just that making that choice has a trade-off. The consequence of Tesla making that choice is that they have to eat the criticism and lost sales from their potential customers, who might feel that Tesla is selling a strictly less useful car for selfish reasons. This is that criticism, and it's completely valid. Whether the law is right or wrong or what you're saying about the law is correct or not, the point remains that remotely disabling people's cars for software-based reasons is fucking stupid and dangerous. If you don't want to argue this point directly, you can fuck off.

4 hours later 70002275 Anonymous
>>70002256 >Sidestick in Tesla when? Absolutely 100% never!

4 hours later 70002280 Anonymous (2z6ts9e.jpg 616x364 33kB)
>>69998480 >>69998461 Well, shit!

4 hours later 70002292 Anonymous
>>70002271 Tesla is anything but cheap. Really, when you have autopilot, you should have very redundad independent systems, otherwise it is unsafe.

4 hours later 70002296 Anonymous
crazy guy works on elon musk computer: it explodes and he almost dies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYo fpdo0PXk

4 hours later 70002306 Anonymous
>>70002275 Why? Good shit for autopilot.

5 hours later 70002347 Anonymous
>>69998770 It's either a forced update or a mandatory recall like Volkswagen did Pick your poison

5 hours later 70002369 Anonymous
>>70002347 Recall, because I will get all papers and in case of accidents I can get moneis, while on tesla it is sketchy

5 hours later 70002407 Anonymous (poste de conduit (1).jpg 1600x1200 349kB)
>>70001663 No, this is peak performance of electric cars

5 hours later 70002441 Anonymous
>>70002273 I agree with you. Once enough people complain to their legislators about this, hopefully they will allow a "dumb car" mode for the car, that completely removes Tesla from ANY liability for the car's performance. Do NOT hold your breath for this. Insurance companies' Product safety lawyers are blood thirsty vampires with a deep seated hatred for manufacturers of "unsafe" protects. There is usually an undocumented "diagnostic maintenance" mode that overrides safety protocols. Learn iit and use it when you have a REAL emergency. My washing machine is a side loader and lock the door shut when in operation. It will NOT allow you open the door when water is in the washer. It broke. The maintenance man showed me the procedure to enter maintenance mode and override the safety lock mechanism.

5 hours later 70002462 Anonymous
>>70002441 Stop shilling botnet shitbox.

5 hours later 70002516 Anonymous
>>70002199 >Because many people WANT a self-driving car More like your overlords decided that's what people should want, and have shills push it daily like you are. You are pushing a future where a person 'buying' a car doesn't actually own it. They don't control it, can't do anything to it if they wanted, are at the whim of whatever nanny home base thinks is good for you rather than telling you of a potential issue and allowing you to use your best judgement for your situation. If you're not a paid muskrat you are beyond a fucking fool.

5 hours later 70002529 Anonymous
>>70002347 >mandatory recall like Volkswagen did Yeah, I'd pick this one any day. The thing about mandatory recalls is you don't have to do it immediately. If you happen to be out when your car's recalled, your car isn't going to prevent you from returning home.

5 hours later 70002556 Anonymous
>>69998461 The established Auto industry force them to sell using an expensive and unnecessary dealership scheme.

5 hours later 70002559 Anonymous
>>70002516 This, but unironically. We're not speaking fucking Windows or Mac OS X, we're speaking about car.

5 hours later 70002562 Anonymous
>>70002516 Wow!, you are going to go ballistic when they ban manually driven cars in cities.

5 hours later 70002593 Anonymous
>>70002562 Nobody will live in cities than, lol...

5 hours later 70002596 Anonymous
>>70001898 >using a device known by the manufacturer as being defective and a safety hazard. You mean every car on the market? They are all dangerous, lethal and manufacturers know it.

5 hours later 70002612 Anonymous
>>70002407 No ludicrous mode button. Into the trash it goes.

5 hours later 70002617 Anonymous
>>70002529 That was their issue? Emissions, or something serious?

5 hours later 70002634 Anonymous
Funding secured

5 hours later 70002637 Anonymous
>>70002612 But it has >sopa de macaca button. This is better.

5 hours later 70002657 Anonymous
>>70000505 Used car shyster spotted...

5 hours later 70002671 Anonymous
>>70002596 >They are all dangerous, lethal and manufacturers know it. If the software has a KNOW fault that can lead to death, then the manufacturer has a legal responsibility to fix it and see that the fix is installed. If your Tesla, suddenly swerves and kills your kid YOU will sue them and WIN if you can show that they KNEW that the car could do this. The Jury will be especially generous to you if you can prove they had a solution but did not install that fix in your vehicle.

5 hours later 70002691 Anonymous
>>69998480 poor fag

5 hours later 70002693 Anonymous
>>70002671 I'd prefer to have dangerous software with manual motor disconnect. I don't want to risk riding a car, that uses some shitty free OS, that is not even an RTOS

5 hours later 70002696 Anonymous
>>70002617 I think he might have been referring to the Takata airbag recall, but that affected a lot more than just Volkswagen. I've never heard of a recall where you are forbidden to drive your car after it's recalled, even for emergencies, or short distances, or just to drive home. If such a thing is possible with Tesla, that makes them worse than every other car manufacturer out there.

5 hours later 70002706 Anonymous
>>70002696 Hm. Indeed.

5 hours later 70002709 Anonymous
>>70002693 >I don't want to risk riding a car, that uses some shitty free OS, that is not even an RTOS Then do NOT buy a Tesla!

5 hours later 70002711 Anonymous
>>70001898 >NOOOO!!! NOT POOR TESLA!!!!

5 hours later 70002733 Anonymous
>>70002709 I won't, lol.

5 hours later 70002748 Anonymous
>>70002696 Agreed, except that Tesla is and should remain the the safest cars in existence. You want that safety, it comes at a cost. It means that car must be allowed to learn and AI learns as a collective mind, so it needs to contact "home" and be updated regally.

5 hours later 70002798 Anonymous
>>70002748 With defective airbag even safest car will become unsafe, since you don't ride in helmet and 4-5 point belt in bucket seat. AI won't help there at all.

5 hours later 70002812 Anonymous
>>70002748 You sound like you don't have anything more than a pop-sci understanding of what AI is or does.

5 hours later 70002822 Anonymous
>>70002798 >With defective airbag Hardware Vs Software, the legal rules for manufacturers are different.

5 hours later 70002843 Anonymous
>>70002748 >Tesla is and should remain the the safest cars in existence Which subreddit or discord server did they send you from?

5 hours later 70002897 Anonymous
>>70002812 >what AI is or does. Well I am dumbing it down. By "collective mind" I mean that the cars have a sensor system that records the car data, they share that data with the manufacturer who uses that data to produce a better AI. Accident data is very important because they use this to make the most changes. Your car does not actually "learn" anything by itself, so the AI in your car is not a learning system but a rule implementation system. That is why is needs frequent updates, so it will become a better driver as time passes.

5 hours later 70002965 Anonymous (crashed_tesla_model_s_joshua_brown[1].jpg 648x429 47kB)
>>70002748 >Tesla is and should remain the the safest cars in existence. "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know.." <loses head> Mulligan followed the Tesla, observing how the golf-shirted driver “flopped right over immediately” and yet the car kept on going at speed: “I knew he wasn’t in control of the car ... I thought the cruise control was stuck on.” The Tesla eventually stopped after driving off the road, along the side of a pond and through a stand of trees, Mulligan said. The NTSB report found that the airbags did not deploy when the car hit the truck, but did when it hit the trees – although by that point Brown was probably already dead.

5 hours later 70002978 Anonymous (2012_just_called.jpg 684x464 63kB)
>>70001353

6 hours later 70002991 Anonymous
>>70001353 Fantastic investment: "The battery is on track to recoup a third of its cost in one year." http://www.digitaljournal.com/tech- and-science/technology/tesla-s-gian t-battery-in-australia-turns-in-a-t op-performance/article/543609

6 hours later 70002993 Anonymous
>>69998461 musk smoking weed on joe rogan experience

6 hours later 70003045 Anonymous
>>70002965 This proves that autopilot is not an aid system, but a distraction. But really, they have pretty strong body, I'd say...

6 hours later 70003105 Anonymous
>>70003045 >pretty strong body stronger than that of it's sadly demised owner, f' sure. But still, nice of Tesla to take him on a final journey through the countryside, even setting off the airbag (eventually) after a final argument with a tree, just in case he bumped his head. Oops

6 hours later 70003117 Anonymous
>>69998570 >I live in a flyover state where no one can afford an electric vehicle

6 hours later 70003152 Anonymous
>>70002843 >Which subreddit or discord server did they send you from? I like the company so much I bought some shares in it.

6 hours later 70003168 Anonymous
wouldn't this make it easier for a company to cut manufacturing costs all over the place, use cheaper materials, etc. since buyers won't see the physical product before buying? why are people BEGGING to be fucked by corporations? why are you PRESENTING your collective V A G I N A S, sticking your disgusting little asses in the air so your PU SS Y stank can waft into everyone's noses?

6 hours later 70003215 Anonymous
>>70003105 I don't know about Teslas, but in many under-truck accidents airbags fire lately or don't fire at all, since sensor is located in crumple zone, and usually you under ride a truck, so it is omitted. There are no sensors in A-pilars, so airbags won't fire. Even if they'd fire, they won't help, since room is coming down and crushing the head, especially, when someone small is in front seat, who prefers to seat closer to wheel. Any other car would perform similarly. But yeah, I think that autopilots are shit, while collision avoidance systems are great, since they aren't botnet and use not cameras, but rather radars and shit, which is way faster and precise.

6 hours later 70003224 Anonymous
>>70003215 >room roof*

6 hours later 70003254 Anonymous
>>70003168 where this mail order shit (literally) doesn't work, cars are not mass-manufactured identical Macbooks or whatever, they can have individual assembly problems, as Tesla did have with badly-fitting panels. Fanboys can maybe forgive this shit or turn a blind idea - Joe Public, who spent $50k getting it delivered, only to find badly-fitted doors or w/e, might not be so forgiving. And with a local dealer system, problem may be just a case of driving it in and getting a door hinge adjusted. With Tesla and no local physical presence, all becomes a bit of a logistical nightmare

6 hours later 70003490 Anonymous
>sells cheaper cars now (at the cost of jobs) >stock tanks what do people really want?

6 hours later 70003512 Anonymous
>>70003168 That's quite literally why. These aren't dealerships, they're glorified showrooms. They're just an expense and you end up having your Tesla "mail ordered" anyways. >>70003254 >Having to drive your own car to a dealership >Where they'll charge you $80 for an inspection and an oil change vs >Submit work order to Tesla online >They'll drive to you, pick up your Tesla, bring it to the shop, fix the problem, and then drive it back to you No thanks. They're closing """stores""" not the workshops.

6 hours later 70003515 Anonymous
>>70003490 I want 40 18650 cells from Tesla battery

6 hours later 70003537 Anonymous
>>70003490 Tesla stocks are notorious for being shorted with every single announcement. The CEO is a hothead that keeps getting into spats with the SEC, shitposts on twitter, and openly fires upper management that aren't keeping pace with his vision. Plus most people don't understand tesla stores aren't stores, they're showrooms where you can then place an order and it gets mail delivered just like if you ordered it online. They're basically just a cost sink given how much marketing tesla gets for free by word of mouth.

7 hours later 70003540 Anonymous
>>69998592 >personally take in 0.8% global vehicle profits Can you imagine the kind of erections Elon Musk gets?

7 hours later 70003576 Anonymous
>>69998676 soys and reddit see /pol/ in everything that isn't estrogen-dipped

7 hours later 70003585 Anonymous
>>69998526 i hope when elon makes an event horizon sized ship those fat people carts in wal-e are on it and they are also made by elon.

7 hours later 70003605 Anonymous
>>70003585 also hope elon browses /g/ if so hi elon you make great stuff

7 hours later 70003650 Anonymous
>>70003605 Elon Musk, if you browse /g/, please send me nude.... 40 18650 batteries.

7 hours later 70003658 Anonymous
>>70003512 >They're closing """stores""" oh yeah, thas right - because """then""" Tesla can sell $48k cars at $35k, what with closing the stores being The Final Part of Elons Grand Plan and all. I forgets somethings someteims. Like Basic Manufacturing Economics and stuff

7 hours later 70003735 Anonymous
>>70001743 Tesla is planning to release a cheaper car by 2021/2022, if I recall correctly.

7 hours later 70003760 Anonymous
Formula E is doing more for the future of battery-powered transportation than the twitter snowflake will ever do.

7 hours later 70003785 Anonymous
>>69998807 Check out the bitch tits on this soft chinned faggot.

8 hours later 70004016 Anonymous
>>69998461 It's because big car dealership was lobbying hard against tesla for selling cars direct. No wonder Tesla has gone "fuck it" and skipped all that bullshit instead. >Tesla cut some operating expenses, as well as avoid dealing with local politics that have prevented it from operating its own stores in certain states including Connecticut, New Mexico and others.

8 hours later 70004102 Anonymous (1377125[1].jpg 1440x960 349kB)
>>70004016 >skipped all that bullshit b-but anon! Dealerships are there to Help You. Why Buy Unseen? Trust Us!!

8 hours later 70004142 Anonymous
>>69999054 congrats, once you're done changing my oil please actually do some research

8 hours later 70004162 Anonymous
>>70001373 premium brands beget premium patience, no one buying these products need them in a timely manner because to afford them in the first place they're well off to say the least financially, theres really no incentive for tesla to ever fix this bullshit because people will keep waiting. it's the exact same fucking reason you see lemmings lined up outside the apple store for every new iphone.

8 hours later 70004180 Anonymous
>>70000505 >well ya know anon, you could ship us the car for 5k so we can do 20k of repairs, or you could ship us that car and WE will eat the cost and sell you a BRAND NEW(used) vehicle, how does that sound? That way instead of spending 25k and being out of a car, you'll just spend 35k and have a car ready to go! yes, people fall for this

8 hours later 70004226 Anonymous
>>69998760 >heald

8 hours later 70004311 Anonymous
>>69998461 overpriced. electric cars should cost no more than $10,000

8 hours later 70004331 Anonymous
>>69998480 This guy did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8r o6kpKlw0

8 hours later 70004332 Anonymous
>>69998461 Tesla is already a meme, and memes could be sold online. Everyone knows what would he get. This is even not an extraordinary decision. Straightforward one. Apple could do this too, but Apple could afford a luxury store chain just for fun

8 hours later 70004352 Anonymous
>>70002073 you need to stop reading pop sci articles on AI if you think anything even remotely approaching machine learning absolutely requires networking. kill yourself or install gentoo or something. just consider doing anything but posting on here. maybe r9k

8 hours later 70004355 Anonymous
>>70002145 so you're praising a battery, that can't power what it backs up and can't recoup even a third of its cost within the first year of its use?

8 hours later 70004382 Anonymous
>>70004311 >I don't know how things work: the post

8 hours later 70004396 Anonymous (DSG failure sm_zps7iwxz4h1.jpg 504x672 62kB)
>hahahahahahaha update a car wtf teslas covering their ass? Having to update hahahah what a joke nobody in the car industry has this problem lol https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar ticle-6700467/Ford-recalls-1-5M-pic kups-transmissions-suddenly-downshi ft-without-warning.html https://thenextweb.com/cars/2018/09 /24/subaru-293-cars-destoryed-softw are-bug/ https://www.businessinsider.com/gm- recalls-a-million-pickups-suvs-amid -a-flurry-of-accident-reports-2018- 9?international=true&r=US&IR=T https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/ 07/15/toyota_recalls_625000_hybrids _over_enginekilling_software_glitch / If you actually knew a thing or 2 you would have know that all cars starting from the OBD era are drive by wire and fully controlled by a computer. Tesla is doing the right thing by improving the software instead of making every customer return to a dealer meanwhile having a temporary death trap. >but Muhh emergency drive Please call 911 if its an actual emergency or maybe force the car into a emergency mode. Proving yet again /g/ is retarded and in denial. you would buy one if you could afford it and run Linux on it using SSH (a whole fucking nvidia 40!)

8 hours later 70004400 Anonymous
>>70002671 you have a poor understanding of liability. Tesla would only be at fault if they knew there was a flaw and didn't fix it. Not if you installed the patch. Their liability ends at the existence and availability of the patch. Joe Blow who clicks the ignore update button, and then his tesla swerves and kills the kid, he is liable. It's the exact same thing as a mandatory recall, just the recall won't deprive you use of your car immediately and without warning. but choice is for real humans, and you're an NPC

8 hours later 70004403 Anonymous
The story of Musk and Tesla is basically the Atlas Shrugged enacted in real life. All the resistance is from shitheads and scum or earth

9 hours later 70004410 Anonymous
Shits way too expensive. If I could get a model 3 for $20k CAD then id hop on it in a heartbeat

9 hours later 70004414 Anonymous
>>70004396 you are stupid. just give up

9 hours later 70004422 Anonymous
>>70002897 so, a car that's in an accident, needs to phone home, so it can send data? fuck no retard, they pull that data from the cars internal computer after the accident, you think there's fucking wifi in an impound lot for wrecked cars? you've gotta be the dumbest fuck to walk the earth to think they're doing any more than tracking how many times you went to fucking starbucks that week so they can spam more ads on your radios UI because god knows we need smart radios with touch screens and all sorts of bullshit

9 hours later 70004425 Anonymous
Elon musk isn't as smart as he thinks he is

9 hours later 70004461 Anonymous
>>70000000

9 hours later 70004464 Anonymous
Elon musk isn't as dumb as we think he is

9 hours later 70004494 Anonymous
>>70004400 "If your car or vehicle is subject to a recall, you have certain rights as a consumer. In addition, if you were injured as a result of a vehicle defect, a product liability suit may be in order." Its checkmate from their side, ignoring the software update doesn't kill the liability. Since US law is the second most broken thing after the Imperial system they just have to force an update. This is like wondering why you got infected without installing the latest patch. But yeah sorry go back to limiting your thought thanks to a weeb imageboard fellow NPC #0824

9 hours later 70004500 Anonymous
>>70004461 checked!

9 hours later 70004575 Anonymous (the meme is real.jpg 600x402 34kB)
>>69998480 >Nobody is buying a car over the internet when they can't even see it in person. I literally watched a person cross-shop the Tesla Model 3 and BMW i3 on a domestic flight last year. After some dithering, he went with the Tesla and signed/submitted the lease documents at cruising altitude.

9 hours later 70004610 Anonymous
>>70004494 If the recall has already been put out, and made explicit by the manufacturer, it absolves them of liability. you don't understand how civil insurance law works. can you still sue? yes. will you win anything? no, they will humiliate you in court for dying in a death trap after you'd been told it was a death trap, you'd "win" 1/100th the money your lawyer promised(which won't cover his fee even though he said it would), he gets paid, you're still dead, and your family won a suit they lost money on. source: attorney specializing in civil insurance law, representing insurance companies, humiliating retards who fall for scam lawyers who make you believe you can sue and win for anything ever

9 hours later 70004705 Anonymous
>>70003658 The $35k model is also gunna have a much more basic shitty interior as well as missing some other niceties. This just helps maintain the price point.

9 hours later 70004731 Anonymous
>>70004705 >more basic a 5" iPad? theres fuck all in them to start with, seats will be an upgrade on the $35k Zen Model at this rate

9 hours later 70004740 Anonymous
>>69998999 But what will the computer engineers do all day then?

9 hours later 70004753 Anonymous
>>70002748 A safe car would not have internet access unless hardwired via ethernet, and even that is kinda unsafe. Oh, you must be a newfag that thinks hardware connected to the internet is safe. Ha!

11 hours later 70005312 Anonymous
>>70004610 Oh so you are the guy who has to deal with retarded clients? Feels bad man But its not seen as a recall but a software update to "improve" the car Not sure how you deal with this gray area with software warranty

12 hours later 70005584 Anonymous
>>70004355 >can't recoup even a third of its cost within the first year of its use? Hold up, I'm with you on this shit being a non-starter for running the grid at night to cover for solar, but utility infrastructure paying back a third of it's price in a year seems pretty good to me. What does this compare unfavorably to? The closest direct competitors to these are natural gas turbines right? The sort they spool up to cover for temporary shortages. How long does it take for natural gas turbines to pay themselves off?

12 hours later 70005606 Anonymous
>>69998461 >Sell all electric vehicles >Gas stations everywhere. >No electrical recharge stations fucking anywhere >Refilling gas tank takes seconds >Recharging batteries takes a long fucking time. I have no idea why this isn't taking off. It's a complete mystery.

12 hours later 70005623 Anonymous
>>69998461 >Not only do we have to create a vehicle type that nobody uses >We have to make it premium so adoption rate is as low as possible It's almost like CEO is a retard.

14 hours later 70006492 Anonymous
>>70005623 That's why they started a cult around him who'll buy anything he tells them to.

14 hours later 70006509 Anonymous
>>70002843 they have the highest rating ever and their SUV didn't roll over once in the side swipe test

14 hours later 70006510 Anonymous
>>69998461 >What went wrong? Weed rot his brain

14 hours later 70006515 Anonymous
>>70005606 >>Recharging batteries takes a long fucking time >most people can just charge when they get home or charge once a week >longer trips gets you super chargers >implying you sit there from 0 to 100%

14 hours later 70006678 Anonymous
>>70004396 I am not sure Tesla pushes out such critical updates OTA at all. They did update the Model 3 when they got called out about it's shitty break performance. Also, this always online bullshit has one good thing about it. If you leave your car outside without a charger, it will be dead within a few days. The battery pack is constantly drained - and not by a small amount. So good fucking luck if you don't have access to charging constantly. Like imagine you visit a remote family. You charge at some city, then arrive. Even while you just enjoy your dinner, your battery is constantly fading away. That just sucks, I am sorry.

14 hours later 70006686 Anonymous
>>70004410 those are shit anyway. only Model 3 worth getting is the Performance model. if you can't afford that, just get a Leaf or whatever.

15 hours later 70006863 Anonymous
>>70004331 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8 ro6kpKlw0 Tesla. The con company. LOL what a joke!! THANK YOU!!!!!

15 hours later 70007121 Anonymous (778878787.jpg 330x319 48kB)
>>69998461 HAHAHAHAHA MUSKNIGGERS BTFO

15 hours later 70007136 Anonymous (563427823357.png 644x800 14kB)
God I love watching shitty basedtech crash and burn, I can imagine all the screeching numales in SanFran having a panic attack and spilling their lattes right now. Should have invested that money into reliable, tried and true solutions, dumb faggots.

16 hours later 70007492 Anonymous
>>69998524 Is this peak IT WAS HER TURN? Rent free 24/7, no refunds.

16 hours later 70007524 Anonymous
>>69998807 Take a look in the mirror, faggot.

16 hours later 70007791 Anonymous
>>70004396 >buying VAG with DSG >buying any car with any type of automatic, unless it is hybrid transmission like in Prius Lol. Amerifats like botnet really badly.

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>>70004396 >getting an automatic

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