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2021-01-30 12:19 27137149 Anonymous (1612001883198.png 510x255 5kB)
>belgium's tax tariffs How the fuck am I supposed to get rich here?

6 min later 27137461 Anonymous
>>27137149 Youre not supposed to, goyim

9 min later 27137587 Anonymous
>>27137149 > HE WANTS TO CASH OUT OH GOD GOY, JUST STAY! IN THE CRYPTOSPACE YOU ARE SAFE!! DONT LEAVE US!!

15 min later 27137903 Anonymous
>>27137149 ZWITSERLAND

16 min later 27137927 Anonymous
>>27137149 What would be a tolerable tax % for you guys?

16 min later 27137929 Anonymous
>>27137149 Kom naar nederland

17 min later 27137959 Anonymous
>>27137149 Only the rich are allowed to make money.

18 min later 27138024 Anonymous
>>27137927 0, all taxation is theft

19 min later 27138044 Anonymous
>>27137149 Did you know that taxes are based off Tzedakah which comes from Judaism and literally means donation/charity for Jews?

23 min later 27138257 Anonymous (1609476090524.png 1110x860 352kB)
>>27137149 Belg bro wat de neuk ik ben net hier verhuisd voor studie als nederbro. Wat zijn deze cijfers. Ik ben financieel verkracht

28 min later 27138444 Anonymous
>>27137927 Ideally zero but our taxes on bitcoin in brazil are ok >below 35000 BRL in profit - 0% >from 35000 to 5 million in profit - 15% >5 to 10m - 17.5% >10m to 30m - 20% >over 30m - 22.5%

32 min later 27138613 Anonymous
>>27137149 Is that real? Leave that place dude. Go to estonia.

34 min later 27138696 Anonymous
>>27137927 15%

46 min later 27139200 Anonymous
>>27138444 holy shit brazil sounds good

50 min later 27139422 Anonymous
>>27137149 you don't. working in Belgium is a scam.

53 min later 27139601 Anonymous (brazilianreal.png 747x356 25kB)
>>27139200 I thought the exchange rate would make it dogshit, but yeah, that's pretty good.

53 min later 27139611 Anonymous
>>27138613 As a fellow waffle I can confirm those rates are accurate. And we get absolute fuckall in return for all that tax.

56 min later 27139746 Anonymous
>>27139611 What do you mean anon.. you get more brown people!

58 min later 27139834 Anonymous
>>27139746 Yeah that's about the long and short of it. We get to maintain more rapefugees. Proper roads? Fah who needs 'em.

58 min later 27139849 Anonymous
>>27137149 are you getting rich with taxes or SUTER?

58 min later 27139861 Anonymous
>>27137149 Op is just a fag not taking advantage of the tax system. He is the only one paying actual tax. If you invest 990 eur into a pension fund you get 365 euros back every year. Use this money to invest in stocks.

1 hours later 27139989 Anonymous
>>27137927 Is it going to trannies, niggers, empowered females acting like cunts while being subsidized by white men and sandniggers? Then 0.

1 hours later 27140012 Anonymous
>>27139834 >We get to maintain more rapefugees. You means future doctors and astronoughts???

1 hours later 27140031 Anonymous
>>27139861 >pension funds lol they'll just change a law and tarrifs for it the next year and you won't see your money until you're old and grey

1 hours later 27140056 Anonymous
>>27137927 ethnostate, 20% multicultural, 10% complaining about belgium taxes is dumb, though. just don't be a wagecuck. belgians have insanely lavish capital gains

1 hours later 27140121 Anonymous
>>27137149 You pay annual tax on your gainz. So bacisally if you invest all the money into stonks before the due date you have 0 gainz and therefore 0 tax

1 hours later 27140183 Anonymous
>>27137927 0 if i live in a country with non-whites, max. 20% flat tax if i live in a white ethnostate

1 hours later 27140243 Anonymous
>>27137149 you forgot 7% municipality tax

1 hours later 27140371 Anonymous
>>27137929 het is hier ongeveer hetzelfde domme kut

1 hours later 27140669 Anonymous
>>27137927 anything above 0 is theft

1 hours later 27140686 Anonymous
>>27137149 We're all fucked. I'm in my final year as a tax student, I hate everything about our system. If you're a NEET or an immigrant you're golden. If you're a wageslave there's nothing you can do.

1 hours later 27140719 Anonymous
>>27139989 No it goes to infrastructure and emergency services

1 hours later 27140772 Anonymous
>>27137149 Hahaha holy shit. And I thought we had it bad.

1 hours later 27140790 Anonymous
>>27137149 Belgium has a shitload of rich people. Figure it out like a smart person.

1 hours later 27140848 Anonymous (1612010047996.jpg 763x431 104kB)
>>27140719 It goes towards this shit

1 hours later 27140877 Anonymous
Here in Norway I pay 22% of capital gains plus 0.85% of the value of my coins at the end of the year. Kinda sucks that shit tends to moon around the new year during bull runs due to that last one, but all in all the capital gains tax is decent. The most annoying part about taxes is that once you get to big numbers you inevitably have to withdraw a lot, making alarms go off at the banks and they start asking you all sorts of shit because of KYC laws. I recently took out ~€1.5m and had to compile and send in a bunch of transaction logs and whatnot. Now I'm waiting to see if I get to keep my account there or not, since apparently the bank is notorious for not wanting to deal with crypto money.

1 hours later 27140893 Anonymous (1612009130184.jpg 868x960 122kB)
>>27140719

1 hours later 27140901 Anonymous
>>27137927 0%

1 hours later 27140917 Anonymous
>>27137149 Jesus, thats Brutal. Over 50,000 Euros you get taxed half! Taxes like that are complete misunderstanding of nature. Or its just jews who know exactly what they are doing. Probably the latter.

1 hours later 27140922 Anonymous
>>27137149 >How the fuck am I supposed to get rich here? At half the speed

1 hours later 27140938 Anonymous (1612004198474.jpg 620x414 67kB)
This "art" cost a million to buy from tax money

1 hours later 27140966 Anonymous
>>27140790 in most large first world countries rich people live there only if theyre non-resident (spend enough time outside to not get taxed) or they have assets and take loans out against them which are untaxed, and pay off those loans from money they have outside the country

1 hours later 27140982 Anonymous
>>27140056 >>27140183 makes sense

1 hours later 27141047 Anonymous
>>27140686 Good thing i've been a NEET for 3 years now, keep working and paying for my shit anon, i appreciate you morons haha

1 hours later 27141107 Anonymous
>>27137927 0% Taxation is theft Especially income taxes

1 hours later 27141232 Anonymous
>>27140938 >They didn't even fucking bother to make a pavement under it

1 hours later 27141248 Anonymous (qa-1.webm 426x240 3009kB)
this is what we pay taxes for btw, state sponsored radio

1 hours later 27141530 Anonymous
>>27137927 15℅ is tolerable. 25% I would most likely bitch about it a lot but would eventually pay it anyway. 50℅ I would try to find any way possible not to pay taxes. 50% is an outright scam.

1 hours later 27141840 Anonymous
>>27137149 If you're trying to get your own business off the ground, you're going to pay 40% on whatever profit you make. It's complete and utter bullshit. As soon as my side hustle is making 1k EUR per month I'm looking to move away and hire and attorney/accountant to get my shit sorted. The blackpill is you might even have to renounce your citizenship because even if you reside somewhere else, the tax man can still fuck you over if your "seat of fortune" is in Belgium, which it would be if you have a Belgian bank account or own real estate here (which I will, since I'm going to inherit houses of my parents.)

1 hours later 27141856 Anonymous
>>27138613 it's not true if you just keep it for a year, bullshit picture

1 hours later 27142089 Anonymous
>>27141840 lol I'm actually an accountant and owning real estate in Belgium while residing in another country won't tax your profits, you're absolutely retared. All you have to do is announce your income in a tax form in Belgium in a separate column and say you paid taxes in the country you live in now.

1 hours later 27142307 Anonymous
>>27142089 My long-term plan is to live in South America on worldwide online income. According to the research I've done, the taxman will still fuck you over and go after that worldwide income even if you're not a resident in Belgium, just because your seat of fortune makes you a Belgian tax resident, and having real estate here or a bank account would qualify as "seat of fortune." Am I wrong? I can just fuck off to Brazil and pay Brazilian taxes on my internet money?

1 hours later 27142513 Anonymous
>>27142307 >South America why that shithole unless you don't have enough to live in a zero-tax white country?

1 hours later 27142542 Anonymous
>>27140938 >>27140893 This type of art is just a way of funneling money from taxpayers into the town officials' pockets. Literally every single town in Belgium has a similar piece of """art""" installed in some public place that cost hundreds of thousands, but is just a few pieces of metal.

2 hours later 27142753 Anonymous
>>27142513 Lower cost of living while continuing to grow my business. (And climate). Right now I'm giving myself 3 years to get the biz up to 2500 EUR/mo pre-tax. Then I quit my 9-to-5, move to South America and continue to grow it there until I make enough to live like a king in Spain/Italy/Greece. Also, South America is close to North America, which I hope to visit regularly once I get my income up.

2 hours later 27142783 Anonymous
>>27142089 >I'm actually an accountant Are you taking on new clients? I'm a self-employed foreigner in Brussels with terrible French/Dutch. Just need some help doing quarterly VAT declarations and a tax return including crypto gains. My current accountant is awful so I'm looking to switch.

2 hours later 27143054 Anonymous
>>27142307 if you live more than 6 months in another country, officially reside there and have work there there's 0% chance you have to pay taxes in Belgium on your internet money. Even just being Belgian and holding your internet money for 1 year at least will make you pay ZERO TAXES ON ALL YOUR WINNINGS

2 hours later 27143134 Anonymous
>>27142783 I could do it for you but not legally, I didn't get my independant taxman certificate yet. Planning to do my exam soon.

2 hours later 27143163 Anonymous
>>27138444 lmao I guess the tax was rigged for the rich ppl who had access to international assets but nowadays everyone can do it and they forgot to set it up against poorzillians.

2 hours later 27143259 Anonymous
>>27140056 Don't you mean 0% for multicultural? Nobody wants to pay for parasites. Even 1% would be too much as that money would encourage them to abuse the system.

2 hours later 27143444 Anonymous
>>27143134 >>27143054 Fair enough, not going to ask you to break the law. Good luck with your exam. If you plan to offer any kind of services related to crypto tax returns I reckon you could charge good rates for it, because none of the regular boomer accountants I've spoken to have any idea about it. And targeting the EU/expat community in Brussels is a gold mine because none of us know our way around the Belgian systems and none of us know the going rates for local services. Just FYI.

2 hours later 27143512 Anonymous
>>27138444 HELL YEAH VAI BRASIL TERRA ABENÇOADA TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOON

2 hours later 27143549 Anonymous
>>27142089 Could you give me some advice? I am a french currently working and living in Germany and never paid any taxes in France. However I want to buy a house for my mother in France with my gains, but am I afraid this may be used to decide that the center of my social life or other bullshit is in France and that I should be taxed on my crypto there. What can I do to protect myself from the french tax men if I own taxable property in France but not in my own country and stop working?

2 hours later 27143600 Anonymous
>>27143444 Honestly it's really not that hard, just make sure you don't pump money regulary from your bank account and wait at least a year to cash out and you pay 0 taxes because it counts as "capital gains"

2 hours later 27143640 Anonymous
>>27140371 The first 50K euros is untaxed though, plus the calculations of the tariffs are very favorable for crypto

2 hours later 27143773 Anonymous
>>27143549 It would take me a long time to explain what you can/can not do. I'm not on here to give official advice for free so I'm gonna pass sorry

2 hours later 27143838 Anonymous
>>27143600 Yeah but it gets more complicated with staking and airdrops and rugpulls and so on, no? In any case, you'd have a good opportunity to rip off clueless if you were so inclined, that's all. >make sure you don't pump money regulary from your bank account wtf, so DCAing is bad? Why?

2 hours later 27144017 Anonymous
>>27143838 they will make the case that you're doing it professionally and not just making capital gains. Yes if you get staking rewards these are taxed. I mean obviously it's not that simple but I can't start explaining every single detail. Also every case is different but mostly what I said would fit most people.

2 hours later 27144123 Anonymous
>>27143773 How can I find someone who works in this field and knows how to optimize taxes? Should I look for an accountant?

2 hours later 27144195 Anonymous
>>27143640 teringdebiel, het gaat hier niet om vermogen maar over inkomen

2 hours later 27144311 Daniel Topper
>>27142753 What is your side hustle, bro?

2 hours later 27144425 Anonymous
>>27144017 >they will make the case that you're doing it professionally and not just making capital gains Seems daft if I clearly have another source of regular income that I've registered as my business, but okay. >it's not that simple but I can't start explaining every single detail. Yeah, I'm not asking you to give away all the details for free. Just pointing out: this shit is complicated and bewildering for a lot of us so you could make good money providing 'specialised' services once you've got qualified.

2 hours later 27144436 Anonymous
>>27144195 Dit is een crypto board schat x

2 hours later 27144472 Anonymous
>>27144425 anything over 525 euros a month bruto can be seen as professional income

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